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IMO yesIn post 25, Save The Dragons wrote:if you roleblock yourself, does it succeed?
this is a philosophical question not related to this setup
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Yeah!In post 26, Ircher wrote:Maybe RH9 will joinBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Uh oh Adante don't hurt me
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k so consciousness of guilt and lack of presence in the game thread seem like good tellsBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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bad postIn post 105, Ircher wrote:why would we no lim.
We should lim Frogster since we won't get a cop result there any time soon.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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i saw this too and right now im thinking bad ideas doesnt mean it's a scum tellIn post 114, Cephrir wrote:
wait, why frogster? he's the night 3 target. this is a weird person to pick for this postIn post 105, Ircher wrote:why would we no lim.
We should lim Frogster since we won't get a cop result there any time soon.
im down to try and solve the game mechanically if there is an idea for how we are going to go about thatIn post 115, Who wrote:I vote we mass-claim.
dragons has consciousness of guilt IMO you can see they changed from the last game to hereIn post 121, Frogsterking wrote:guys follow me dragons changed between gamesBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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i have another scum read now im going to wait a few minutes to see who they push before i out itBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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this is sort of like not really what im looking to see because it looks like an excuse to FoS someone rather than getting a read on what they're aboutIn post 119, Andante wrote:
exactly why I'm voting ircher lolIn post 114, Cephrir wrote:
wait, why frogster? he's the night 3 target. this is a weird person to pick for this postIn post 105, Ircher wrote:why would we no lim.
We should lim Frogster since we won't get a cop result there any time soon.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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@who and @cephrir
what would it require for you guys to come to some kind of solve mechanically since it seems like that's the direction you're goingBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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In post 150, Cephrir wrote:i checked, ircher is definitely hammered
Oh..In post 153, Andante wrote:cook didn't expect us to hammer so fast lolBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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kinda yeahIn post 171, Who wrote:Cephrir is town.
im not sure what to make of this hereIn post 174, Frogsterking wrote:VOTE: cakez
iso and wagon are bad
dragons is still my choice for partnerBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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In post 175, Andante wrote:went no where?
im scum reading based on day play aloneIn post 176, Cephrir wrote:i don't think that makes him mafiaBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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no elim is really bad adante
UNVOTE: cakez
let's slow down a little bit we have time.
Who do you still think a massclaim is best?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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okay whatever I'm doc I saved Who last night i was trying to breadcrumb in 183 and 199. I'm on dragons tonight.In post 211, Who wrote:
Yes. Negligible downside, potentially massive upside.In post 206, Frogsterking wrote:no elim is really bad adante
UNVOTE: cakez
let's slow down a little bit we have time.
Who do you still think a massclaim is best?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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In post 225, Frogsterking wrote:
okay whatever I'm doc I saved Who last night i was trying to breadcrumb in 183 and 199. I'm on dragons tonight.In post 211, Who wrote:
Yes. Negligible downside, potentially massive upside.In post 206, Frogsterking wrote:no elim is really bad adante
UNVOTE: cakez
let's slow down a little bit we have time.
Who do you still think a massclaim is best?In post 226, SirCakez wrote:Wait it has to be frogster right
nah its a reaction test Cakez is town they're trying to solveIn post 229, SirCakez wrote:OhhhhBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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VOTE: dragons
dragons is lying by the way they weren't on cakez because im also a town role blocker and i was on dragons last night.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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i was just slowrolling because i wanted to sort cakez tooIn post 257, Frogsterking wrote:VOTE: dragons
dragons is lying by the way they weren't on cakez because im also a town role blocker and i was on dragons last night.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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it could be like andante and dragons here.
but FMPOV dragons is scumBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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okay im pretty sure it's still dragons because if you were the fake claim in our trio you dont counterclaim like thisIn post 262, Cephrir wrote:
uhIn post 257, Frogsterking wrote:VOTE: dragons
dragons is lying by the way they weren't on cakez because im also a town role blocker and i was on dragons last night.
im also a town roleblocker and i was on you last night, which may explain this, except that requires 3 random towns, so actually you or std is scumBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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the hell why would we lim cephIn post 275, Cephrir wrote:
i think you mean std here, not meIn post 272, SirCakez wrote:We can lim Ceph and if he's town i bomb frogBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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im voting dragons
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not if i bomb you firstIn post 310, SirCakez wrote:I'll bomb frog tonight it's overBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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savageIn post 316, Cephrir wrote:good night friend thanks for playing sorry about the scum pmBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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no shitIn post 323, Save The Dragons wrote:you know frogs might be town
who could be lying about his cop claimBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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hey stranger things have happenedIn post 329, Save The Dragons wrote:that was a joke who can't be lying about his cop claim because that would mean you two were scum with andanteBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Night 1
Ceph blocks Frog
Cakez explodes Frog
Night 2
Ceph no-acts
Cakez bombs Frog
Wow thanks for the help guys!Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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The choice was rash yet the aim was true.In post 349, Who wrote:Wait, cakez tried to explode n1? Very much the wrong move, could have cost us the game.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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scum lineIn post 353, SirCakez wrote:I didn't mean to submit an action night 1 lol I got on a call with a friend and totally got distracted and didn't come back in timeBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Maybe make it anonymous, slightly faster, and submit an 18 entry long list at the beginning and run three games back to back with the same group using their original list.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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i didn't know if there is a setting to make it anonymous.In post 358, Who wrote:What do you mean by anonymous? Everyone uses anonymous alts? That doesn't seem like it will do much. Faster only prevents it from being broken during the game, it doesn't save the setup from breaking. Three games back to back seems fun but won't protect from breaking.
I guess one way to help mitigate breaking which gives players agency and is in the spirit of the setup is to go in the opposite direction of the above suggestions, and give both alignments an additional set of either / or PRs that swap the target of target players. I've heard the roles called different things like Driver, not sure what they're called here. Then players can decide if executing their night action is going to help them or not based on what appears to be happening.
The idea of the slightly faster time to allow three games back to back is to balance the setup in a high skill high luck way, so some playthroughs will be broken and others won't, and you'll get multiple playthroughs.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Yeah I feel it. Maybe even some negative utility is warranted for town here?In post 366, Who wrote:Adding redirection risks things getting to chaotic but is promising. Bus driver has the issue of needing two targets which would introduce unnecessary complexity, but a role which shifts the target’s target list one night forwards seems good for scum. For town, those roles are generally negative utility, but a beam splitter would be handy.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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