Shadow Hunters (Game Over, Shadow and Neutral Win!)

[bird1111]

/in

The scenario you gave for 8 players has 9, is it supposed to be 3 H, 2 N, 3 S?

[bird1111]

The 8 player scenario has 1 role removed at random from any alignment.
Don't tell me that's balanced for the scum, they dont have a NK

Ah, missed that part.

[bird1111]

Seems like it would be better to just have you do anything on random.org or a similar site.

[bird1111]

Possible limited access over the next few days due to going back to school.

Edit: Nevermind.

[bird1111]

/roll

[bird1111]

End turn.

[bird1111]

I'd prefer having mod roll for us or using pre-rolled numbers to make it actually random.

[bird1111]

/roll

[bird1111]

Draw Black Card.

[bird1111]

Not attacking.

[bird1111]

Forgot I am after ani.

/roll

[bird1111]

Taking the card, not attacking.

[bird1111]

/roll

[bird1111]

Taking a Hermit card.

[bird1111]

Give card to mallogeno

Edit: Not attacking.

[bird1111]

I am still not attacking.

[bird1111]

Aww eff. I better start following mallow around now. >>

ITT KageLord claims Shadow.

Wait, saying that he needs to follow the confirmed shadow when he just picked up the cursed sword (and therefore has to attack every turn he can) is claiming Shadow?

[bird1111]

...

You do realize that if he is following mellow, he won't be forced to attack anyone else right?

[bird1111]

I'm Charlie, and will be flipping on my next turn.

[bird1111]

Also, the reason why I did not reveal mello as shadow was because I was afraid he was the last shadow, and that by revealing him, I would lose any chance at winning.

[bird1111]

ani/Other two hunters; would you be willing to try to help me win? If you are, I'm plenty willing to work with you.

[bird1111]

There's only 1 other hunter. There's Emi and Unkown who should help the shadows. Bird with you that makes it 4 on 2 if you help. Otherwise it's 3 on 3

You mean Allie? What makes you so sure she'll help you?

Edit: And what makes you so sure that she's even in the game?

[bird1111]

Assuming Reck and Ani agree, I'll be finishing mallow for you guys.

(Also, since its been forgotten, and I'd like to maximize the odds of meeting my win condition my next turn; I got a Chainsaw During the turn that takes place starting at this link.

[bird1111]

Right now we know that Reck and Kagelord are two of Unknown, George, and Allie.

[bird1111]

Also, any objections to me flipping by double attacking whichever of mallow/Reck/Kage I can legally attack? (As I'm guaranteed to be legally able to attack one of those three my next turn; and those are the only three that can be shadows from my perspective)

[bird1111]

Um... idk about that. I mean if you can attack mallow, by all means do it since he's flipped Shadow. But if you're attacking me or Reck, I think you should just flip (unless I'm misinterpreting something, you don't have to attack twice to flip). It's still not confirmed that either of us are Shadows until either we flip or mallow dies and Hunters don't win. Besides, if I'm going to flip on the turn after yours anyway, there's really no point to attacking me, right (and if I don't flip, there's no reason for everyone not to attack me)?

I would suggest though that we force Reck to flip on his next turn as well or group attack him (if he doesn't flip, he's obviously Shadow since George and Allie have no reason not to flip).

I can flip without using a special ability/card that requires me to?

Mod: Is that correct?

[bird1111]

/roll

Also,

Flipping as Charles

[bird1111]

White card please.

No attack.

[bird1111]

...why would I not attack mallow?

Because I need to deal a finishing blow to win.

[bird1111]

Huh, I was under the impression my winning wouldn't end the game.

Dram: Does my win condition end the game?

[bird1111]

Oh.

Who wins if I meet my winning kill is on the last Shadow/last Hunter/third Neutral?

[bird1111]

Bird.
Here's the deal.
If you attack CYBELE, then me, mallow, you, and Kage can all win simultaneously.
Either agree to this or you will die.

Now that things are mostly even between the two sides, I'm not going to commit myself until at least my next turn.

[bird1111]

Like I said, I'm not committing to anything until my turn at the earliest.

[bird1111]

/roll

[bird1111]

Use bats on Ani.

[bird1111]

/roll

[bird1111]

Reck, Mallow, I'm giving you 18 hours to convince me why I should allow you two two win along with Kage and I.

[bird1111]

Because we played a very good game the entire time and managed to deceive Cybele for awhile. I think I deserve a win. Plus you guys lose NOTHING by letting us win with you.

Anything else besides the deception? (Note: I'm basically trying to decide whether or not you two have earned the victory)

(BTW, the latter sentence is why this offer in the first place)

@Dram: I know. Might as well look at it even though it probably won't make a difference.

[bird1111]

Give to Kagelord.

(I'd appreciate it if you gave me the cursed sword so that the ~.028 chance of failing to successfully attack isn't a threat)

[bird1111]

Considering they don't need you dead, that isn't a point against him.

[bird1111]

I think we've earned it. We played well, I managed to stay under the radar for awhile, and we managed to kill off Emi without raising any suspicion. I killed Cybele's buddy and he still didn't suspect me. Mallow played the part of drawing attention very well. Now we're at the end of the game and actually in a position to win quite easily.

We deserve this.

On the plus side, Reck apparently did deceive Cybele (as far as we know). On the minus side, I called him on being Unknown in one of my first posts of the game. Not only his alignment, but his actual character too, when everyone was alive. The main reason I didn't pursue it was that I didn't want to create any waves (clearly that didn't work somehow).

Cursed sword is coming your way, bird.

Anything specific that tipped you off?

[bird1111]

Meh, Reck's played well enough to earn a win, and mallow's play was decent enough, so attack Cybele.

[bird1111]

I would have said not to roll, but oh well. Doesn't matter anyways.

By the way, why was there no voiced concern about me taking the solo win or win with just KageLord from when I claimed until the final turn? I was surprised by how satisfied everyone seemed to just assume that I was going to play along and help you win, especially when I declared neutrality when I realized the game wasn't as cut and dry as I thought it was. I would have expected my winning on my own to be enough of a threat that measures would be taken so that I wouldn't have so many potential options for the game winning kill.

[bird1111]

I forgot to make an exception for you, as I wasn't surprised that you weren't acting very afraid of my taking a free win.

Though I do have to wonder, why did you not heal yourself the turn after everyone flipped? It would have put you out of my reach without outside assistance (and I don't see any reason why anyone would attack you if you healed), and therefore would increase your chances of winning.

[bird1111]

I forgot to make an exception for you, as I wasn't surprised that you weren't acting very afraid of my taking a free win.

Though I do have to wonder, why did you not heal yourself the turn after everyone flipped? It would have put you out of my reach without outside assistance (and I don't see any reason why anyone would attack you if you healed), and therefore would increase your chances of winning.

I did heal myself. Then Reck immediately did 5 damage to me again.

Ah, missed that.

[bird1111]

It is.