Known issues/phpBB3 wish list

[Mr. Flay]

Starting a new thread, partially for my own information, partially so people know its on our radar with regards to the upgrade.

• Format of PMs is wonky

  - I know, I know, technical terms. I can see it's not formatting correctly and I even know why, but I haven't tested the fix yet.

  Estimated completion: 6/22.
  Done.
  
• scumchat

  - need to put the link back up for it, soon! Undecided about where exactly, yet... taking suggestions.
  Done.
  
• Game Moderators being unable to unlock their own threads, or edit once locked

  - we know what's causing this and are working on a workaround. Go to http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =1&t=14321 in the meantime if you're unable to unlock your game.

  Estimated completion: 6/17 at the latest.
  Done.
• Read in Isolation mod

  - I haven't ported it over yet, but I have at least two examples to work from.

  Estimated completion: 6/18.
  Done; does have an idiosyncrasy when there's just one post.
  
• wiki images

  - mith has fixed the permissions on the upload folder.
  Done.
  
• BCC PMs

  - The new 'Add' button on PMs works great, except it copies the names in public.

  Not so great for role PMs

  ! Use 'Add BCC' instead. I'll look into changing it, but I suspect it will be easier to just learn the new interface.
  Added a disclaimer.
  
• Open Game Forum

  - pretty easy actually, we did it on the test forum. Low priority compared to some of the current problems/bugs, though.
  Done.
  
• Watched Topics

  - WT were a homebrew mod by JEEP so they didn't convert over into Subscriptions/Bookmarks. I'll check with mith about getting them ported into Bookmarks, but can't promise anything. Use 'View Your Posts' to find most of them and Subscribe/Bookmark them.
  
  
• In a similar vein, the regular reply screen should be made less confusing (Submit | Preview | Save Draft)
  Done.
  
• -->

  somewhere

  there's a bad interaction between comment tags that leads to a trailing tag showing up on the Quick Reply box. It doesn't happen on every page, however... may be because of an oddly-compiledBBcode.
  I believe I found this problem and fixed it...
  
• Post Numbers

  - I haven't ported it over yet, but I have at least two examples to work from.
  Done.
  
• Game Moderators being unable to edit locked threads/player posts in their games

  - you should be able to edit an unlocked game's first post - just do that before you close it for Night. We're working on getting the ability to edit your player's posts restored.
  Done.
  
• Topic-Mod

  - Game Moderators should only be able to edit posts in their own threads, not forum-wide. Just requires a bit of fiddling with permissions.
  Done .
  
• class="first"> -->

  - Some users (Opera-only?) are getting this before posts. Check and see if there's any mismatched comment code.
  I believe I found this problem and fixed it...
  
• Truncated posts
  - We underestimated how big our biggest posts were; some posts over 100,000 bytes got truncated.
  All data is still available!
  mith is working on a copy scheme.
  Fix in progress.
  
  
• [] links

  - reimplement the profile button for personal wiki pages!
  Done.
  
• Birthday/Scumday
  - just need to look at JEEP's old code, should be an easy implementation.[/strike] Done, thanks to Kison for the scumday code fix.
  
• scumchat link
  - the redirect from index.php doesn't work right now;
  the fix is coded but not implemented yet
  .
  Fix didn't work; will try something else.
  
  
• Edit posts while locked

  - game mods can't edit threads while they're locked. Need to check both Topic Author Moderation and Admin-locks to make sure there's no bad interactions.
  Done.
  
• mafSepia, mafTigers
  - Sepia is implemented. Tigers needs a new artist/coder, as the other person had to drop the task due to time constraints. Some people have also asked for a mobile theme that is high-visibility, low-image-use.
  Priority for Tigers and Mobile: medium-low; sciGreen and others; negligible


• Gender and other custom profile fields
  - The data's reimported, but icons aren't implemented yet. Would like to have a way to 'forbid' the use of the tg icon if it becomes problematic.
  Estimated completion: not sure if we'll do this again
  
  
• Preview on Hover

  - JEEP's old mod shouldn't be that hard to transfer over, but it might take me a while to get to it.
  Done, though only for first post, not last post.
  
• Game tags
  - Chess is done, though I'm looking into removing the 'piece icons' from the moves list. are still dicey, and Go/etc isn't even on my radar...
  Priority: low-medium.
  
  
• Quick Reply needs some tweaking
  - already forced it to display by default and swapped Preview for Full Editor. A "Quote Selected" button would be nice; should also re-add the "Subscribe to this topic?" checkbox. Found a mod that does most of this. Also need an option for people to disable
  Priority: low
  
  
• Prod Interface

  - It should be possible to give game moderators a summary of when everyone last posted in the game, and an easy way to prod them. There's an offsite script that does this at present, but integrating it with the forum should be more efficient.
  Done thanks to Kison; This will benefit from a way to designate players as 'alive' or 'dead'..
  
• View Entire Thread
  - had this on the old server, disabled it due to server load. Might be able to restore it, for Printer-Friendly View at least.
  Priority: low
  
  
• Search PMs
  - http://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/pm_search/ will probably work, but may need some bug-checking.
  Priority: low
  
  
• View All Players' Posts
  - on the old board a 'bug' allowed all the View in Iso posts to show up on a single page. Some people want this again... may instead bump it to 100 posts/page when viewing in ISO.
  Priority: low
  
  
• Global Announcements
  - something seems to be acting up about the 'view latest unread' when it comes to GA threads. Have to dig in the code to find out what might be causing it, though...
  Priority: low
  
  
• View First Post on every page
  - had this on the old server, will need to look into JEEP's code for it and see how well it translates. Would like to add a way to enable it by thread owner, not user.
  Priority: low.
  
  
• Multiquote
  - I'm not sure exactly how people want this implemented, but it exists now for the last 25 posts in a thread - just look at the Topic Review under the posting editor. Other sites use a 'sticky' QuickReply box, or checkboxes and then quoting all checked posts (will lead to walls).
  Priority: low
  
  
• BBCode Documentation
  - At some point we should edit http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/faq.php?mode=bbcode to show our new/custom bbcodes. I'd prefer to upgrade the FAQ Manager first.

Let me know of other things - this is more of a honeydew list than the Post-Conversion FAQ thread.

I remember seeing a forum that displayed thread views (or maybe thread replies, idk), but when you clicked the number it showed you a list of who had posted in that thread and how many times. I think that would be handy to quickly get a game post count without having to look at each player in iso.

Also, would it be possible to indicate original post numbers somewhere in iso? So that I can look at iso24 and know it is #342 without navigating?

Enabling single-logon between the phpBB forum and the wiki, allowing us to do away with/curtail anonymous editing

How about an option like an iso that ONLY shows text in between VOTE: tags and who posted them? I don't know if that'd be too much work, but it'd be helpful.

Some sort of more automated signup process, that takes into account flaking, site-wide game limits, signup throttling, and baking cakes for starving children in Africa.

I wonder if there's a way to have php calculate the actual pixel-length of a username, and flag it if it's too long to display properly?

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, we had it on in the test forum. Where's the setting? I thought it was 'Enable display of jumpbox:', but that's already on...

[Mr. Flay]

EDIT: We need a cooler "delete post" button.

What, the gunshot hole isn't working for you?

(Maybe nobody can tell what that is, except me...)

[Mr. Flay]

You mean where it says, "Board index" with the little house icon?

[Mr. Flay]

Didn't the old forum have a dropdown for page numbers? I seem to remember in-thread navigation being easier.

You can just click the link on the top right by the page numbers and manually type in a page number to jump to.

Oh, right... I knew it existed, it's just bloody hidden! Thanks for spotting that.

[Mr. Flay]

Flay, since it's really easy to add a new forum for Open games (trust me, I've done this before on another site. I know how easy this is), you could do it right now, in the span of a minute or less.

It's not my call; mith is contemplating a few layout changes to the forums that he wants to do all at once. Yes, once we decide it will be easy to create.

[Mr. Flay]

Heh. I doubt it, actually, Poro. I am eventually going to look into making printer-friendly view more usable again, though... combining that with a View All Pages might get you what you're after.

[Mr. Flay]

Woah. The [size] tag is

different

here. Did that affect all the old posts? Maybe you should switch it back to its old scale.

All old posts were converted, though of course if you copy something from the archive it won't automagically convert. Just remember that the new system is

percentages

, not pts.

Also, there used to be a feature where you could hover your mouse over the latest poster in a thread and see a preview of the post without entering the thread itself. Could you bring that back as well?

Yeah, that's on my radar, but I forgot to add it to the first post. Thanks for the reminder!

[Mr. Flay]

Troll wonders why we no be displaying in the forums how many times each thread has been viewed at this point? Troll makes use of that from time to time to get an idea about how much a given thread is being watched when no one be posting. It no be precise but at least it gave some information. Troll would love to have that back if possible.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Interesting, I wouldn't have thought anybody was using that. I commented out the Views Count code to lower our DB hits and because it seemed useless for our forum (most places that love that are SEO-optimization/commercial sites, popularity contests, etc. I think I'd like to use that space for thread starter, eventually, but if lots of people miss it I don't mind restoring it.

When choosing the full editor option from Quick Reply, could you automatically add a preview at the top of the next page?

Good idea! That's how it used to work, didn't it? Would you name the button 'Preview' or 'Full Editor', though?

I also need to add 'hide QR when the thread is locked, but I think I see how to do that.

1. My default time was set to Mountain/not Daylight Savings time rather than the correct Pacific/Daylight Savings time. I assume other people have a similar issue, which isn't a problem now but will be in a few months.

Odd, as far as I know DST is set correctly in the base forum. Mine is working right, but I have changed since then so I don't know what the default was.

2. Is there an obvious way to do "Display first post of thread on each page"? I couldn't find a setting for this in my user control panel.

Yeah, as UROE mentioned, this isn't back yet.

(On a side note I just looked at all of Awesome Pants posts in Chess Mafia without blowing up the site.

*\o/*

[Mr. Flay]

mith, did you just ditch all of the 'Mafia Player' roles in Group's Forum Permissions? That was what was supposed to be differentiating them from non-game forums...

Registered Users should have 'Mafia Player' role in game-forums, and 'Standard/Limited Access +/- Polls' in the others as appropriate. I don't want to get in there and start changing things again though if you're in there, we'll just get turned around again. I thought Limited was for News?

[Mr. Flay]

I'm hoping to get some of these wrapped up tonight, if they'll actually unshackle me from my desk at work, and uploaded before bed. Both of the last two things are on my short list, as are post numbers.

[Mr. Flay]

Keep singing...

[Mr. Flay]

hohum: We'll undoubtledly lose some people because of the downtime, but after that we should recover and run smoother than ever.

Which reminds me, I should do a new posting baseline...

[Mr. Flay]

We have the field already (data from the old forum), I just haven't gotten around to re-implementing it yet. Newer users of course will have it left blank.

[Mr. Flay]

Eh. If I can get my own FTP working tonight (and maybe even if it doesn't), post numbers should be up, along with a few other small things.

I've outsourced Sepia & Tigers to my henchmen, but I'm going to do some work on it as well if all goes well.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, it'd be a nice feature to think about adding later; throw it up in the coding forum.

Also, just an FYI to everyone, I finally got SFTP working. That should speed up the fixes from here on out (not waiting on mith to upload for me), but the rest of this week is pretty crazy so don't expect miracles).

[Mr. Flay]

Someone should verify for me that Quick Reply no longer shows at the bottom of locked topics.

Post numbers are up, finally.

[Mr. Flay]

Cool. I made some formatting changes today, to wit moving the 'page' icon back to the left edge, stripping the 'author' field (since you can already see it 2" to the left), and most importantly, changing the way 'post links' work. The page icon now gives you a popup window (if you've enabled JavaScript) with the link in cleartext; the post number will always link you directly to that post. Hopefully that'll be more usable for people; as always, let me know of problems.

[Mr. Flay]

What previously took a single click (going from ISO to seeing a page in context), now takes four clicks and a copy paste (click on icon, 2 clicks to give browser permission, click on icon again, copy link to adress bar). What previously took a single click and a copy (getting the link to the actual post), now takes four clicks and a copy.

Maybe I was unclear. You can still get there in one click, by clicking on the

post number

. But I can flip it back so the 'page' symbol goes to the post in context and the post number gives you the popup...

ani, I have no idea where you're talking about a 'reset' button?

[Mr. Flay]

No need to switch it, that will just take some time to get used to.

Well, I'll keep a mental tally; if lots of people seem to be confused, I'll flip it (or just turn it off - as you say, it's almost as easy to copy the address bar).

[Mr. Flay]

Huh? Mr. Flay still exists just fine... I just haven't stuck the button back in there yet. It should be on my list, somewhere...

[Mr. Flay]

Explain please - are the old links dead??

[Mr. Flay]

Mr. Flay still exists just fine... I just haven't stuck the button back in there yet.

[Mr. Flay]

Joined Date on profiles should be fixed now. *kicks circular references*

Topic-mod is next, hopefully tonight.

[Mr. Flay]

Every page, every post within a topic, every first post?

Thanks for the browser info though... I don't see this, so it may be related.

[Mr. Flay]

Topic-mod is next, hopefully tonight.

I need somebody RUNNING a game in Mish-Mash who is not an Admin/List Mod/Me=Weird to confirm that they:

1. have access to edit anyone's posts in threads they started
   
2. do not have edit rights to other people's threads in Mish-Mash

[Mr. Flay]

Yay! Okay, removing the extra mod permissions from Mafia forums. Yell if you lose the ability to lock/edit your games...

[Mr. Flay]

I should be done updating permissions (in both Mish-Mash and Mafia forums); try now.

[Mr. Flay]

That's promising... did you try locking, unlocking, and deleting a reply? I can make a test post if you need something nonsensical to delete.

[Mr. Flay]

Not sure if you meant for this to happen, but where I previously had modding rights in every topic, I now only do in mine. So I'm not sure why you said someone who isn't a admin or list mod or "me" to try.

When I was first trying it out in Mish-Mash, I hadn't removed any old permissions yet. So you wouldn't have been a good test case, since you were in that temporary "Mish Mash Mods" group. Now I've removed moderator permissions from that group and you should be able to test/act like anybody else.

[Mr. Flay]

Delete link should look like (half of) this: , directly to the right of the edit button. I suspect the priv isn't tied in as directly as I expected, but it should be a fairly easy fix.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, you'll probably still be able to delete your own posts in your own threads (but not your posts in other game threads). It's deleting other players' posts, like a moderator, that's been skipped.

::edit:: Oh wait, I just re-read your post. It's possible that older posts won't work under this new scheme, which would be okay I guess (an Admin/List Mod can always get them if it's absolutely necessary).

[Mr. Flay]

Okay, implemented a possible fix for not being able to delete posts in your game threads. Give it a try and see what you discover.

[Mr. Flay]

@Mr. Flay, from a quick test it appears that Troll no be able to delete Troll's posts in Troll's game threads unless them be the most recent post. If there be replies to the post then Troll still has to leave it in there.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Aha! That's good troubleshooting information. Can you still edit older posts?

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, eventually we hope to integrate the search across both the archives and the current board. I don't have an ETA for that, though once we collect all the archives in one board you should be able to do just two searches for games and the like, with no overlap.

NS: Removing things from egosearch won't be possible, it defeats the purpose of that search (fast and inflexible). Use Bookmarks?

Setting thread icons for just YOUR view would be a major change to the architecture of the board. I can eventually look into a sort of 'flagging' system for threads, but that would be a long ways off (might involve combining Bookmarks and Subscriptions, too).

As far as the delete function goes, NS and Troll made me realize what is going on, I think. The good news is I'm pretty sure I know how to solve it; the bad news is I'm swamped this weekend and probably won't get to it until next weekend, realistically. In the meantime, if you need to delete some bad content, edit the post down to almost-nothing and/or contact a List Mod/Admin to have the post deleted later.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, I'm fiddling some of the last colors that need to be tweaked for the main theme. I got that one a BIT too much purple at one point...

[Mr. Flay]

I can probably add something to the UCP for that, but it would be an always-on, always-off thing. I usually just Ctrl-A, Delete when I don't want it...

[Mr. Flay]

class="first"> -->

- Some users (Opera-only?) are getting this before posts. Check and see if there's any mismatched comment code.

I didn't find any mismatched code, but I took out this chunk of commented-out code entirely. Anybody who was getting this before, can you verify that it's gone now (you may need to hard-refresh the page)?

Personal wiki links should be back before midnight.

Also, for those looking for multiquote, the 'topic review' section below the posting editor has a 'quote' button that will insert that post into the editor wherever your cursor is. So as long as you're responding to something less than 25 posts ago, you already have this functionality.

[Mr. Flay]

This is obviously not a big deal, but I preferred "mark this forum read" instead of "mark subforums read".

Hrm? Where? I see "Mark topics read" and "Mark forums read"... or do you literally mean the word 'this' would make it read better?

ani: Not entirely sure. Game tags are... well, dicey, and I'm working on some lower-hanging fruit right now, like wiki and Sepia. Probably you'll see Chess first, as I've got a straight mod for that. All the dice mods are still in BETA...

[Mr. Flay]

EBWOP:

Personal wiki links will be back before midnight Pacific Time.

[Mr. Flay]

Nah, once we get all the forum edits done here, it will be trivial* to copy them over to the archive forum. It's definitely not going to stay 'broken' like it is now, but the focus is on getting the main forum back to full power.

[Mr. Flay]

Nah, I broke it. Stupid &*(%^*$#&^ caching meant I pulled the wrong copy of viewtopic_body to edit, and resurrected an old error with duplicate . It only took a couple of minutes to re-fix...

That completes the basics, I think. Tonight is Sepia v.0.9.

[Mr. Flay]

Sorry, who are you again?

[Mr. Flay]

mafSepia is

roughly

done, and should be usable. I haven't stripped all of the blue/silver out of it yet, but the icons should all be present. If anything's missing/blank, let me know...

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, they may be changing (they are very large, after all) but my partner in working on this one has had some delays and I wanted to get

something

out there...

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey Flay what happened to that Futuristic forumn style we were going to get?

Just a random question.

Tigers before Futurism. (Please.)

Probably yes, if for nothing else the fact that someone's already working actively on Tigers, and we've got the old images to build from. Futurism will be when I get/need a break from coding (images are a totally different brainpath, for me).

[Mr. Flay]

Also wiki buttons omg

*\o/*

Those were MUCH harder to implement than they had any right to be. On the flipside, I now understand the forum structure a lot better than I did during the test board...

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, I noticed that font is a little funny. I'll have to go into the SVG and manually fix it, but it's (somewhere) on my list...

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, I meant you... not sure why I said Oman.

I think I understand how the results would work, but how does it manage the multiquote

while

you're writing the post? Does it all dump into the Quick Reply box and the QR box stays populated even when you scan to a different page? That's the part that's confusing me... if it's easier for me to just join that board I'll do that instead.

[Mr. Flay]

Okay, here's what I found on phpBB.com:

• Prime Multi-Quote - abandoned
  
• Multi-Quote Beta - download broken, no recent posts.

I don't see any others active right now, but will keep my eyes open. I know more than one person wants this, but the 'clever' way to do it escapes me at present.

[Mr. Flay]

No. It'll become obvious if/when it happens, but there's no timeline for searching PMs as of yet.

[Mr. Flay]

Roll to Dodge games from Mish-Mash got archived:
http://mafiascum.net/archive/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8581
http://mafiascum.net/archive/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9180
http://mafiascum.net/archive/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9467
http://mafiascum.net/archive/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=10879

The last one was from 2009.

[Mr. Flay]

Why is it a pain? it's just like any other BBcode - they have to be matched [beginning] and [/end]. Old tables were a mod and a kludge. New tables are just a set of bbcodes... if I can figure out a sensible way to give them their own 'row' on the editor, I'll add buttons, but right now they'd be scattered through the rest of the codes and probably be more confusing than just having in the list.

[Mr. Flay]

Preview is your friend.

[Mr. Flay]

Ah, yeah. That was a stray edit - it's back to grey now.

[Mr. Flay]

3rd time youve ninja'd me today flay, I think your doing it deliberately...

I still see it.

Refresh your browser. (Ctrl-F5 or Ctrl-R, usually)

[Mr. Flay]

It's GOING to be visible, because it's a line that's supposed to be there. It just wasn't supposed to be black (now it's grey/light brown, depending on your style). It was near-white before, and near-invisible.

[Mr. Flay]

Odd. Which bbcode are you using,

? What browser/OS? We had this problem before and I think it's some sort of javascript error...

[Mr. Flay]

Help: If anybody sees a 'second' cake image on a user that has today's scumday, let me know. I'm not entirely certain if the new code is working or not, because I can't find a user registered on July 30 who is still active.

[Mr. Flay]

Around midnight it gets funny due to time zone problems. Who was it, so I can check them in 8-12 hours?

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, you can't even edit Queue posts unless you're a game mod of any sort, IIRC. Can we set Queue forum permissions like Mish Mash permissions, for example?

That's by design - the List Mods were losing /outs and such because people would go back and edit their original post, some posts/pages back.

Also, new issue, why do we have to go through the preview when I hit Submit on a PM the first go? This isn't true of posts, and I don't want it to be true for PMs. :\

The only time I've seen it do that to me is when I put the recipient's name in but didn't click the [add] button. Then preview came up with the name properly added to the recipient list. If it's doing it otherwise, that sounds wrong.

[Mr. Flay]

I would like the HTML marquee tag implemented for sigs. It could be useful in certain situations. Barring that, blinking text.

*BANG*

[Mr. Flay]

Not without completely restructuring PMs, as far as I can tell. You are welcome to search phpbb.com and prove me wrong/find an example, but they're saying it's by design.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, the "Page X of X" thing needs to go in our FAQ Real Soon Now.

And good, I can't wait to have my (and everyone else's) sex back, it will make catching up on "guys pt 2" slightly less confusing.

Yeah, obviously the 7th won't happen (blame Diablo II and the Mayans), but it's near the top of my list. I'm working on Preview on Hover right now, it's installed but not working right.

[Mr. Flay]

Preview on Hover is working again - but it may not be where you expect it. Hover the thread title in a forum, and you should get the first ~170 characters. I may get it working as well for last post of a thread, but that's for later. The new version allows us to exclude the content of certain bbcode tags from the preview, so if you can think of others we need to avoid, let me know. I've already ditched quote, spoiler, code, table, and img.

Also fiddled with some icons earlier (mostly fixing a bug with the PM button on Silver, and the Announcement icons in Sepia). If anything's missing/broken, let me know.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, I need to coordinate all of those so they're the same 'way'. Can you help by spotting all the places those buttons are found, and what order they're in currently?

Right now I can think of: Quick Reply, Reply Editor, PM Editor, and Signature. What else is there?

[Mr. Flay]

Perfect, thanks! posting editor already re-fixed, will get to the rest tonight probably.

[Mr. Flay]

It's "temporary" in that mith should be able to reimport the old settings, but I wanted to get something in there so I could start to test icons.

[Mr. Flay]

I suppose it's out of the question to be able to put a PM in more than one folder, right?

I believe so, though have you tried forwarding one to yourself?

[Mr. Flay]

Heh...I actually thought it would be invisible to everybody but me, since I unchecked the show setting. *shrug*

No harm in letting it be set... will publicly open it now.

[Mr. Flay]

I wanted to get something in there so I could start to test icons.

And yes, transgender was a (hidden) option before. I'll make it admin-set only again if it becomes a problem, don't be jerks.

[Mr. Flay]

Thanks for reading the whole page! Not everything here yet, of course... and you've kind of caught one of the "wishlist" items that's still mostly in my head.

Eventually I'd like to have the VOTE: tag format based on your preferences - so if Fenchurch prefers

###vote: Player

, you see my votes that way. I prefer

VOTE: Player

(or something similar), but not everybody does. It'd be a limited subset of formats, but there's a couple different ones people prefer already out there "in the wild". For now, though, a bbcode was easiest to get up and running, and get people used to the idea.

Also, there IS a difference between the two you posted, it's just not obvious. Hover your cursor over the 'right' one...

[Mr. Flay]

Yup. UNVOTE: , too!

[Mr. Flay]

UNVOTE: with the dangling colon is tacky, and I explicitly say in my rulesets "Please don't use Unvote: [playername], it's too easily construed for a vote."

Yeah, I don't know yet how to construct a bbcode such that it can 'tell' if there's something inside the tag or not. And in phpBB3, they

have

to be opened and closed tags, so I can't just make it UNVOTE: by itself.

Observation: nearly everyone in my Newbie game is using vote tags over bold tags, despite me clearly listing both options as valid.

Cool.

Fenchurch: You might want to start a thread in Site Ideas about what the Vote tag format options could be... I'm open to all ideas, but I do think something like what we've used for years is best as the 'default'. I'm up for a light background or something, though... not sure how I feel about a border.

[Mr. Flay]

Aliases are easy.

I'll add VOTE: now, and I guess UNVOTE: though I don't love it. [un] ?

Actually, I need to think a bit more about how that would interact with planned expansions for the vote tag.

Also, all you have to do is type their name and hit the button on the editor. Isn't that shorter (unless you're in Quick Reply)?

[Mr. Flay]

Most users aren't programmers, though, and use both mouse and keyboard. Also, I can't really see a programmer getting arsed about "ote"++.

[Mr. Flay]

You can also do it by typing, highlighting the name, and clicking the button.

But, I maintain that it's only easier for you to do it that way because you're used to it. Newer players seem to be flocking to it...

[Mr. Flay]

BBCodes don't work with conditionals like that, unfortunately. They're talking about expanding the functionality for 3.1 or 3.2, but right now there's not much I can do without rewriting the tag from scratch.

[Mr. Flay]

Bug. There's a priv I need to sort out for game mods to let them delete other player's posts in their threads, but it's separate from the priv for editing other player's posts. I think I'll need to create it, actually.

[Mr. Flay]

Which archive search are you looking at, Vi? phpbb2 or phpbb3 version? phpbb2 is still disabled, the other should be working, but mith may need to rebuild the index.

RC is right about multi-PMs. They worked that way in phpBB2 because JEEP coded them. In phpBB3, they're built-in, but work different, sorry.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, probably we need to rebuild the search index.

Also, I think I just lost some posts in a GD topic split. That was a weird bug (hit the split button, it only split one page's worth of posts, so went Back and split again, only got the second set of posts and the first seem to have disappeared). Note to self: Don't do that again...

[Mr. Flay]

*shrug* Their way emphasizes efficiency. JEEP's way was more specific to how we operate. Most boards probably don't have 'prod' PMs to groups of people...

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, I have the admin privs, but only so I can help mith out. I set my usergroup to something else to avoid any confusion about who was in charge.

[Mr. Flay]

Nothing new to report yet.

However, Kison came up with what appears to be good "scumday" code, so if you start seeing scumday cakes, let me know (and thank him).

[Mr. Flay]

Rock!

It's in the wrong place, but that's fixable!

Thanks for hunting that down...

[Mr. Flay]

These are all the places I found buttons of this type:


Quick reply: Submit, Preview

Reply Editor: Save Draft, Preview, Submit



UCP: Profile:

Edit Profile: Reset, Submit

Edit Signature: Reset, Preview, Submit

Edit Avatar: Reset, Submit

Edit Account Settings: Reset, Submit


UCP: Board Preferences:

Edit Global Settings: Reset, Submit

Edit Posting Defaults: Reset, Submit

Edit Display Options:Reset, Submit


UCP: Private Messages:

Compose Message: Load, Save Draft, Preview, Submit

Fixed all of these, and some you didn't have access to. If anything broke/got weird as a result, let me know.

[Mr. Flay]

No, somebody else has mentioned that first part as well. I haven't confirmed it in the code itself, but I think it's accurate.

Not sure about the second - is it just flipping from bg1 to bg2 (see Vi's post above you)?

[Mr. Flay]

Hrm. Preliminary testing with Color Picker shows the text (in Sepia) as #000000 and the background of your last post as #E8DDC7, which corresponds to the CSS class bg1 (bg2 is my posts before and after yours, #E2D3B7). When I view you in ISO, the colors show up the same, though that's not done with an unread post.

Try and get a screenshot, or use Color Picker or Firebug to catch the difference, if you use Firefox? It may not be anything worth 'fixing' (if it is happening, it's probably a feature to highlight the latest post, I'm guessing), but it'll let you know you're not crazy.

[Mr. Flay]

So when you view a user's profile, there's a section down in the corner that says:

Total posts: 7029 |

Search user’s posts

(1.09% of all posts / 2.99 posts per day)

I've discovered you can also make a link there that will take you to all of their posts in 'topic view' instead. My problem is how to word it without making that line too long...

Total posts: 7029 |

View user’s posts, user's topics

(1.09% of all posts / 2.99 posts per day)

wraps the line on smaller browser windows.

Total posts: 7029 |

Search user’s posts or topics

(1.09% of all posts / 2.99 posts per day)

is a little better.

Total posts: 7029 |

(1.09% of site, 2.99 posts/day)

View this user’s posts or topics sitewide

is my favorite so far, but maybe someone else has a better idea?

[Mr. Flay]

Just added a white background to votes/unvotes in all skins, for now. I'll still look at other options, but this at least gives people some visual cue in the meantime.

Borders alone looked odd. Not entranced with the font-family thing, though I can work an example up for you guys.

[Mr. Flay]

I have no really

polite

intelligent response to the formatting suggestion... this isn't Windows Vista.

As for why to do it, if we can get people using the official tags reliably, we can start to code things like automatic vote counters, custom vote formats (see votes the way YOU want to), etc. But if people still split between

and VOTE: in 6 months or a year, there's not much sense in going to that extra effort. Making official votes visible both supports the long-term goal, and has been requested by several mods.

[Mr. Flay]

I would use vote tags if the VOTE wasn't in all caps.

...seriously?

[Mr. Flay]

I'm not sure if I would ever adopt a "you must use the vote tag rule", but I'm sure some mods would if the vote tag project continues. And I do also dislike the all-caps VOTE: myself, even if it is asthetic. Is it actually possible with some coding for a forum tag to be individually customizable?

Yes

Not 'individually', but we can set multiple 'skins' for the vote tag, so that you'll see it as

##vote: Nikanor

or

Vote: Niknaor

or
VOTE: NIKANOR
or

Vote: Nikanor

or probably some other common methods. I'm sure mith doesn't want to go hog-wild with it, but three or four variations that meet most people's needs would probably be useful.

[Mr. Flay]

Fixed some weirdnesses with the Compose PM screen last night. Let me know if it gives you any problems, but hard-refresh your browser first. Should be formatted better now...

Bravo. I still wanna see what my Windows Vista version would look like, rofl.

Try going to http://cssdesk.com/ putting your code in.

[Mr. Flay]

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Warning: require(./config.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /usr/local/mafiascum/forum/common.php on line 131
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 4286: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /common.php:131)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 4288: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /common.php:131)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 4289: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /common.php:131)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 4290: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /common.php:131)

Just started. Site seems to be loading, but it's ugly.

::edit:: AAaaaand we're back.

[Mr. Flay]

Unlikely, as mith doesn't like the idea of 'button creep'.

[Mr. Flay]

I don't remember where it was mentioned, but there was a 'bug' that didn't show the thread controls (View in Iso, Sort by Name, etc) if there was only one post showing. That's been fixed (it's actually intentional since the default controls are all sorting, but whatev)

Publicized a few more of the 'secret' BBcodes. At some point I need to reorganize them so I can put all the table codes on one line, they're giving non-webdevelopers a lot of trouble at present.

Remove the "View Active Topics" link on the index, since it's not a feature we use.

[Mr. Flay]

 is ill-advised for votecounts, as it won't word-wrap on smaller monitors.  might give you some distinctiveness, though. 

[Mr. Flay]

Updates?

On what? First post is mostly correct; I'm cut off from FTP again right now, unfortunately, so that's slowing down some changes that'll be coming after I get back from Dragon*Con.

[Mr. Flay]

Does it still do it? I'll test your privs after I get back in town...

[Mr. Flay]

Is The effect caused by this user's name known?

Is now. I'll let mith know, and he can decide what to do about it...

Update: Looks like its just me.

Link me?

Nevermind, found it. When I test your permissions, I see no edit button on your posts or anybody else's in that game. When I view the usergroup for that forum, it looks the same as anybody else's. I'm at a loss... you should only have edit privs on your own games.

[Mr. Flay]

Heh, upped to 13 (in case somebody needs to CC their comod or something).

Dropped the max PMs per folder to 800, for a maximum of 4000, not 5000.

[Mr. Flay]

Nope, we're just starting to see the stress edges of our new hosting, and I don't want that energy spent excessively on old PMs. Also, if/when we get PM searching, it'll work a lot faster with fewer messages overall.

[Mr. Flay]

It should either be deleting older PMs, or putting new ones on hold, until you get down below the limit. But I'll bump it back up for now, see if they become recoverable.

[Mr. Flay]

Are either of you running other types of games? I'll try to compare and contrast...

[Mr. Flay]

I checked its still there. Wickedestjr also has the same problem. We are also both modding games in NY atm.

I checked and can literally find no difference between your privs in NY and your privs in Little Italy. I'm mystified.

[Mr. Flay]

You're a member of Capodecima, which is the mod group for both Mini Themes and Mini Normals, that's why.

I checked it against Theme Park, just to be sure; you don't have any edit privs there, like I expected.

[Mr. Flay]

Apparently. Out of curiosity, have you tried clicking the button and seeing if the priv actually works beyond the button being there?

(obviously, don't actually do anything with it)

Because when I inherit your privs, I don't see the button, which makes me wonder if your browser is somehow caching the button.

[Mr. Flay]

Damn, there goes that theory.

[Mr. Flay]

I... don't think so. It's not a forum, after all.

Or do you just mean a link somewhere at the bottom of the page? Where would you put it, offhand??

[Mr. Flay]

The more I think about it, with our long pages, the more I think we should just copy the entire

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User Control Panel • View your posts              • Search • Wiki • FAQ • Members • Logout 

line to the footer. That would give NS what he's looking for, as well as the other major links, without having to scroll up.

[Mr. Flay]

Neither should be true, but there's a fiddly bit with permissions that makes it true for now. Eventually it will be like the edit priv - you can only do it to your own games.

[Mr. Flay]

Personally, I'd like a link to the forum main page at the bottom. That's usually where I want to go when I'm done reading a thread, rather than just 'Return to Help'.

Would it be possible to copy something like: 'Board index › Administration › Help!', as well as the other stuff that you mentioned?

Uhm, it is down there and has been since Day One, I swear to gods. Bottom left, same line as the "Subscribe Topic" link... you're not the first person to miss it.

[Mr. Flay]

Also, (and this could be an issue with the browser I'm using here), the Contact icons for each poster have shifted a bit to the right.

PWB Version 2.10.7 (Public Web Browser)
[No, I've never heard of it, either.]

Probably a browser thing; they're shifted in IE, too.

As for the other part, I don't think so. Is there a particular reason you need them banned?

[Mr. Flay]

It would be non-trivial, I fear.

As a game mod, you SHOULD be able to edit any posts where people forget and disable emoticons in that thread, though, if that helps. Just put it in big letters in your rules and you should be fine.

[Mr. Flay]

What I meant was, you can disable them in any given post, so if somebody forgets, you should be able to edit that post, in your thread.

Make more sense now?

[Mr. Flay]

If you quote a post from the button on the right edge, it should do the name part automatically. Number is a good idea, but it may take some time to integrate, if it's even possible (post numbers are kind of calculated on the fly, at least for now).

I'm back in town. It'll take me a day or seven to get back up to speed, but if there's anything I should know about, bold or quote it for me.

[Mr. Flay]

What the hell - why didn't anybody tell me the tab order was all messed up on submit/preview buttons? I'll get right on that after access is restored...

[Mr. Flay]

Heh, avatars aren't actually any bigger than before, there was just an import error and the site lost dimensions. So everyone got set at 100x100 - fixed yours.

[Mr. Flay]

Also, welcome back sensei. Looking forward to collaborating with you on some of this stuff...

[Mr. Flay]

Correct. It's still high on my list to get mods their own rights to delete player posts, but haven't had time to find the right combination of variables. They locked phpBB3 down in some interesting ways...

[Mr. Flay]

Somebody who ONLY has game mod rights (i.e. not a List Mod or GD Mod) and has a game currently in Night should try to edit one of their posts. Kison may have tracked down that particular problem...

[Mr. Flay]

Thank Kison!

I've got a fix in the works for post numbers not showing up in topic review under the reply editor, but it won't upload for some reason...

Worked the following evening... let me know if it broke anything.

[Mr. Flay]

Can't edit first post right now, so saving edits here:

• Format of PMs is wonky

  - I know, I know, technical terms. I can see it's not formatting correctly and I even know why, but I haven't tested the fix yet.

  Estimated completion: 6/22.
  Done.
  
• scumchat

  - need to put the link back up for it, soon! Undecided about where exactly, yet... taking suggestions.
  Done.
  
• Game Moderators being unable to unlock their own threads, or edit once locked

  - we know what's causing this and are working on a workaround. Go to http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =1&t=14321 in the meantime if you're unable to unlock your game.

  Estimated completion: 6/17 at the latest.
  Done.
• Read in Isolation mod

  - I haven't ported it over yet, but I have at least two examples to work from.

  Estimated completion: 6/18.
  Done; does have an idiosyncrasy when there's just one post.
  
• wiki images

  - mith has fixed the permissions on the upload folder.
  Done.
  
• BCC PMs

  - The new 'Add' button on PMs works great, except it copies the names in public.

  Not so great for role PMs

  ! Use 'Add BCC' instead. I'll look into changing it, but I suspect it will be easier to just learn the new interface.
  Added a disclaimer.
  
• Open Game Forum

  - pretty easy actually, we did it on the test forum. Low priority compared to some of the current problems/bugs, though.
  Done.
  
• Watched Topics

  - WT were a homebrew mod by JEEP so they didn't convert over into Subscriptions/Bookmarks. I'll check with mith about getting them ported into Bookmarks, but can't promise anything. Use 'View Your Posts' to find most of them and Subscribe/Bookmark them.
  
  
• In a similar vein, the regular reply screen should be made less confusing (Submit | Preview | Save Draft)
  Done.
  
• -->

  somewhere

  there's a bad interaction between comment tags that leads to a trailing tag showing up on the Quick Reply box. It doesn't happen on every page, however... may be because of an oddly-compiledBBcode.
  I believe I found this problem and fixed it...
  
• Post Numbers

  - I haven't ported it over yet, but I have at least two examples to work from.
  Done.
  
• Game Moderators being unable to edit locked threads/player posts in their games
  Done.
  
• Topic-Mod

  - Game Moderators should only be able to edit posts in their own threads, not forum-wide. Just requires a bit of fiddling with permissions.
  Done.
  
• class="first"> -->

  - Some users (Opera-only?) are getting this before posts. Check and see if there's any mismatched comment code.
  I believe I found this problem and fixed it...
  
• Truncated posts
  - We underestimated how big our biggest posts were; some posts over 100,000 bytes got truncated.
  All data is still available!
  mith is working on a copy scheme.
  Fix in progress.
  
  
• [] links

  - reimplement the profile button for personal wiki pages!
  Done; may want to add it to the profile page at some point.
  
• Birthday/Scumday
  - just need to look at JEEP's old code, should be an easy implementation.[/strike] Done, thanks to Kison for the scumday code fix.
  
• scumchat link
  - the redirect from index.php doesn't work right now; the fix is coded but not implemented yet.
  Estimated completion: 12/23
  
  
• mafSepia, mafTigers
  - Sepia is implemented. Tigers needs a new artist/coder, as the other person had to drop the task due to time constraints. Some people have also asked for a mobile theme that is high-visibility, low-image-use.
  Priority for Tigers and Mobile: medium-low; sciGreen and others; negligible


• Gender and other custom profile fields
  - The data's reimported, but icons aren't implemented yet. Would like to have a way to 'forbid' the use of the tg icon if it becomes problematic.
  Estimated completion: unknown; may not redo it. Priority: low.
  
  
• Preview on Hover

  - JEEP's old mod shouldn't be that hard to transfer over, but it might take me a while to get to it.
  Done, though only for first post, not last post.
  
• Game tags
  - Chess is done, though I'm looking into removing the 'piece icons' from the moves list. are still dicey, and Go/etc isn't even on my radar...
  Priority: low-medium.
  
  
• Quick Reply needs some tweaking
  - already forced it to display by default and swapped Preview for Full Editor. A "Quote Selected" button would be nice; should also re-add the "Subscribe to this topic?" checkbox. Found a mod that does most of this. Also need an option for people to disable
  Estimated completion: 1/15
  
  
• Prod Interface
  - It should be possible to give game moderators a summary of when everyone last posted in the game, and an easy way to prod them. There's an offsite script that does this at present, but integrating it with the forum should be more efficient. This will benefit from a way to designate players as 'alive' or 'dead'.
  Priority: medium; knowledge: lacking.
  
  
• View Entire Thread
  - had this on the old server, disabled it due to server load. Might be able to restore it, for Printer-Friendly View at least.
  Priority: low
  
  
• Search PMs
  - http://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/pm_search/ will probably work, but may need some bug-checking.
  Priority: low
  
  
• View All Players' Posts
  - on the old board a 'bug' allowed all the View in Iso posts to show up on a single page. Some people want this again... may instead bump it to 100 posts/page when viewing in ISO.
  Priority: low
  
  
• Global Announcements
  - something seems to be acting up about the 'view latest unread' when it comes to GA threads. Have to dig in the code to find out what might be causing it, though...
  Priority: low
  
  
• View First Post on every page
  - had this on the old server, will need to look into JEEP's code for it and see how well it translates. Would like to add a way to enable it by thread owner, not user.
  Priority: low.
  
  
• Multiquote
  - I'm not sure exactly how people want this implemented, but it exists now for the last 25 posts in a thread - just look at the Topic Review under the posting editor. Other sites use a 'sticky' QuickReply box, or checkboxes and then quoting all checked posts (will lead to walls).
  Priority: low
  
  
• BBCode Documentation
  - At some point we should edit http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/faq.php?mode=bbcode to show our new/custom bbcodes. I'd prefer to upgrade the FAQ Manager first.

Let me know of other things - this is more of a honeydew list than the Post-Conversion FAQ thread.

I remember seeing a forum that displayed thread views (or maybe thread replies, idk), but when you clicked the number it showed you a list of who had posted in that thread and how many times. I think that would be handy to quickly get a game post count without having to look at each player in iso.

Also, would it be possible to indicate original post numbers somewhere in iso? So that I can look at iso24 and know it is #342 without navigating?

Enabling single-logon between the phpBB forum and the wiki, allowing us to do away with/curtail anonymous editing

How about an option like an iso that ONLY shows text in between VOTE: tags and who posted them? I don't know if that'd be too much work, but it'd be helpful.

Some sort of more automated signup process, that takes into account flaking, site-wide game limits, signup throttling, and baking cakes for starving children in Africa.

I wonder if there's a way to have php calculate the actual pixel-length of a username, and flag it if it's too long to display properly?

[Mr. Flay]

What the hell - why didn't anybody tell me the tab order was all messed up on submit/preview buttons? I'll get right on that after access is restored...

Tonight.

[Mr. Flay]

When I edit my sig, the input page says Smilies are ON; however, I can't seem to make them work. Have we turned them off? If so, that should be edited so as not to confuse simple minds such as mine.

When I checked, your profile still had Smilies turned off. I turned them on... do you not get a tickybox for that?!?

RC: Uhhh, no? It's not a link limit, it's a character limit. You have SIX links ffs...

economize

. Your wiki is already linked under your name, you can use for your future games link, and you can strip www. and f=XX out of most of those, if needed.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah - that tickybox should be UNCHECKED. It almost certainly will be now, because I just did it from the ACP.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah. That's bloody bizarre... something didn't cache properly. The file's there, it's just not seeing it yet.

::edit:: That should have fixed it.

[Mr. Flay]

Working on several small things on my day off:

1. Reindexed the search in the archives, so it should follow the same rules as the main forum now.
   
2. Applied mafSilver to the archive - may change the logo and colors slightly so people don't get 'lost'.
   
3. Fixed the
   [[ ]]
   wiki image in the header, AGAIN.
   
4. Scummies 2011 thread created from the ruins of 2010.
   
5. Last post preview (next)
   
   
6. Reformatted the MCP topic review to mimic the others (though it still doesn't have post numbers)
   
7. Added wiki pages to the profile

What other small fires can I put out? I still don't know why the scumchat link doesn't work from the index...

[Mr. Flay]

You're welcome.

[Mr. Flay]

This isn't the thread for this discussion, guys. That decision has been made, in any case.

[Mr. Flay]

I dunno why it isn't, but that's an easy fix. Thanks for the catch.

[Mr. Flay]

When using "Display posts by user:", it would be convenient to load a page with the topic's url including the line "&user_select=#".
For example, http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... lect=10595

Instead, a page is loaded that I assume relies on form data.
The url, then, is http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 96&start=0 but with only one player's posts appearing.

If I navigate to a separate page in the ISO, the new page has the url that one would expect:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 5&start=25
From there I can go back to the beginning and get a url like the first one.

Would it be both desireable and possible to change this? It would make linking marginally easier and would reduce the need for a page refresh/resend form data when navigating through ISO's.

That seems very possible, but I won't be able to get to it anytime soon.

[Mr. Flay]

Neat; I'll talk to mith about it.

:edit: Will disable that soon.

[Mr. Flay]

We might be able to, but it's non-trivial and low-priority.

[Mr. Flay]

WHERE ARE DICE TAGS

non-trivial and low-priority.

[Mr. Flay]

It's high on the list of things to fix, but the first attempt didn't take.

[Mr. Flay]

Nothing done

today

this month with the forums, no. Browser update?

[Mr. Flay]

No. Vi has three scummies and an avatar.

[Mr. Flay]

With Kison working more on the code side of things, I'll have a bit more brainspace for finishing the outstanding themes, like mafTiger.

As far as the line you're talking about, I don't think the code team really ever talked about it yet.

[Mr. Flay]

Click on the "Page 21 of 21" thing - it'll let you input a specific page. We do need to make that a bit more obvious.

I saw your Chrome comment; the scumchat thing is kind of perplexing, because it works for some people and not others, and doesn't even seem to be particularly-browser-specific. Kison and I think it may be about whether or not you've got the right associations setup for the AIM: protocol.

[Mr. Flay]

Oh, I see what you mean, now. Yeah, that should be feasible.

[Mr. Flay]

It's a feature, unfortunately. We'd have to rebuild the entire search index (which brought the site to its knees, last time I did so) AND it would slow down searches due to the larger index of possible terms.

Not saying it's not something we could want, but I wonder if it even searches for /'ed terms appropriately anyway. What else do we use commonly that has slashes in it, but is more than 4 chars?

[Mr. Flay]

If it's saying "v la" is too short, then the slash is almost certainly getting stripped out, so changing the length won't help in any case.

[Mr. Flay]

/confirm

Yeah, it's definitely stripping the slash.

[Mr. Flay]

As an aside, on my Bookmarks page in the header line "BOOMMARKS/LAST POST" last post isn't bolded. Is that the way it is supposed to be? Now that I've noticed it I can't stop looking at i as ikt bugs my format OCD.

Same thing on subscriptions page.

These should be fixed now in all active styles.

Is the bottom bar like new this minute, cause I just sent a PM and appreciated the choice of where to press next!

Seriously though, you guys seem to have done a lot this past week.

Yup. Kison's been a coding demon, and I'm working on some layout/CSS stuff tonight.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, cuz it's not in the same place. The bolding was accidental, but I don't think it's a problem.

[Mr. Flay]

Odin's Eyes, why DO you feel the need to repeat everything in every possible venue? I already saw your reply in the coding forum, RC, and I'm quite aware what is causing it.

[Mr. Flay]

I've been quite aware what is causing it since I added the links.

FTFM.

[Mr. Flay]

Fonts can't be guaranteed. Font families can (serif, sans serif, monospace), but we've already got a mono tag - is that like what you mean?

[Mr. Flay]

Any chance of getting a Skype button, like the AIM, MSN, Yahoo!, etc?

Probably. Got an example somewhere else of the syntax?

[Mr. Flay]

Sure, like [align=] is a broader version of

, etc.

[Mr. Flay]

For example, the AIM button links to

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aim:goim?screenname=NobodySpecialMaf&message=mafiascum.net

What does Skype look like in the address bar/link when you load it from a browser?

[Mr. Flay]

That's a starting point, thanks!

[Mr. Flay]

Wiki image previewer working again.

[Mr. Flay]

The thing?

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, that went in a week or two. And you're quite welcome - I'm finding it immensely intuitive and useful, myself.

[Mr. Flay]

HR is an HTML element, so it'll vary somewhat based on what browser you're using. Mine shows as a thin greyish single line, for example, on FF/Linux (Sepia)

[Mr. Flay]

Last post preview

Probably

tonight

tomorrow night.

Also going to add 'Jump to page' feature to the

...

that shows up on longer threads. Until/unless we get the dropdown back, that should help a bit.

[Mr. Flay]

Also going to add 'Jump to page' feature to the

...

that shows up on longer threads. Until/unless we get the dropdown back, that should help a bit.

Done; LPP was harder than I thought, so not done tonight.

Also fixed the footer links to mirror the header links.

[Mr. Flay]

There's no pleasing some people.

[Mr. Flay]

So, maybe we could get font tags?

Like, for example, would give you Times New Roman, and would give you Arial.

Even if we could just start out with a few fonts that are on most computers, then gradually roll out more, that'd be great.

Fonts can't be guaranteed. Font families can (serif, sans serif, monospace), but we've already got a mono tag - is that like what you mean?

Yeah. The only difference is instead of it would be and would be a catch all for every available font type.

Sure, like [align=] is a broader version of

, etc.

That'd be great. Thanks!

Done. mono, serif, and sans are the only sets guaranteed to 'work' (well 'cursive' but that one's bizarre anyway). Try to use individual fonts at your own risk.

fixed the footer links to mirror the header links.

Fixed the css error that was leading to 'extra' rounded corners in mafSilver.

[Mr. Flay]

Most of the site is set to attempt

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font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;

If somebody's computer doesn't have Verdana, it goes down the line, and so on.

[Mr. Flay]

This is probably a really dumb question and a testament to my ability to overlook things, but.

In regular threads, under your profile picture you get:
Joined:
Location:
Gender:

In PMs, you get:
Posts:
Joined:
Location:


Has it always been this way? And why is it different?

Looks like the PM sidebar never got fully changed - I can make it look almost like the forum sidebar.

Also, I would like a Wiki link next to the PM link inside of private messages, please.

Ditto this. Same 'problem', the two sidebars are in separate files, so they can get out of sync.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, that'd be a nifty touch.

[Mr. Flay]

It's probably the same in all skins, because I didn't realize egosearch used a third variant of the elipsis (I made the ones in threads and mailboxes clickable). I'll upgrade the ellipses soon.

[Mr. Flay]

You are so off-topic I don't even know what language you're speaking anymore, RC.

[Mr. Flay]

Can't recall if this has been addressed (if so, sorry) -- on threadview, the ellipsis between page numbers is clickable; in egosearch it is not. Can this be changed? (also, I'm using scuMobile; if it's like this in Silver or Sepia.....)

This should be fixed now (it's a core function, not a theme, so it should be sitewide).

[Mr. Flay]

Hrm? Oh, I see what you're saying. That will require a different function... rolling back changes.

[Mr. Flay]

There are no hidden subgroups of Help. There is the 'completed requests' subforum though, sometimes things get moved there and that can cause it not to register as read.

[Mr. Flay]

It's not doing it to me - however next time you see it, go into Solved Requests and hit 'mark all topics read'. Then if it's still showing unread, do the same in the main Help! forum.

The coding group is under a separate category of Administration entirely.

[Mr. Flay]

Actually, it might be related to the Announcement bug. But there's been no new posts in any global announcements lately, I don't think...

[Mr. Flay]

Stop trolling. There are no hidden Help threads.

[Mr. Flay]

Probably what you're seeing is that when I post in Help, I usually approve the unapproved (or throw them away, if they're spam).

Those really shouldn't count against the forum for 'unread', though... that's a bug. I'll see if phpBB has a fix yet.

[Mr. Flay]

So, I'm back again, asking for things that I think would be neat, but probably no one else cares about.

I think it would be really useful if we could (in iso view) have, next to the Real#, the total number of posts in the thread. 'Twould be a simple way to see, at a glance, how many posts have elapsed since a particular players last post. (Obviously, I only see the utility of this in the last isopost, but I imagine it's simpler to code it into every iso-post rather than only the final one). This came to me when I realized that I'm always going from iso-view to thread-view to find out how many posts since a given player's last.

Of course, not at all urgent, but it would make me happy (and save a handful of pageviews).

Anyone else?

I had never thought of using that timeframe as a metric for anything. It shouldn't be hard to do (the variables SHOULD all be there already), but I'd want to see more interest first. Also where would you put it? And would it suffice to stick it on the Activity Overview page, perhaps under the topic title?

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Last updated: Sunday, July 10, 2011 4:55 PM

[Mr. Flay]

Eh? I don't think it is...

[Mr. Flay]

*scratches head* Now I'm confused. I thought you were asking for the last

time

the thread was posted in, so you could see how long it had been since they were in thread compared to actual thread activity...

I'm not sure what total posts would tell you. Total posts since their last post, maybe? That's a new/different calculation...

[Mr. Flay]

He wants them on the

same screen

, I believe.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, I still feel that would be better on the Activity Overview. "X posts ago" or "X posts back", maybe?

[Mr. Flay]

It's a bug/weirdness when there's no space before or sometimes after the : - seems to be related to the emoticon being bumped up against a ] or [? Next time it does it in a forum where you can edit posts, try putting a space before or after the :emoticon: and that should fix it.

I'll try to look for a bug report on phpBB.com tonight. Got some time, if the babysitting doesn't kill me.

[Mr. Flay]

As I've mentioned, it doesn't happen in threads; only in PMs.

(Ninjaedit: Are PMs 'forums'?)

Really?:igmeou: Does it to me in forums....

[Mr. Flay]

After looking at the bug reports, it's a known problem that isn't easily fixed. The lack of parsing without a preceeding space is to keep from autoinserting smilies into code, urls, etc apparently.
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=1965895

[Mr. Flay]

Nothing much, yet. Soon it will display a banner on your posts when you're V/LA. Should also eventually flag Activity Overview.

[Mr. Flay]

Nothing much, yet.

'Nothing much' isn't the same as 'nothing'. So what does it do so far?
Or am I nitpicking?

It updates the database with a) whether or not you're V/LA, and b) what dates you'll be V/LA. Hence, not nothing.

There's a reason we hadn't announced this yet.

[Mr. Flay]

Can the iso's been changed back, there a pain in the neck now, I used to like being able to link to people to that iso no in particular (for the start of series of posts by that user) I dont really get why they needed to be changed?

I don't understand - isn't http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... elect=7992 the link you want? Or am I misunderstanding?

I think all Kison did was reorder the numbers...

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, that actually is marginally useful, but is that what the iso # did before? I thought it just went to the same place as the real link.

[Mr. Flay]

Bunch of images in mafSepia just went BOOM for no obvious reason. Working on it, t

hough someone confirming they also have no/few buttons with text on them, would be good...

nevermind, filesystem confirmed it for me.

What the hell?

::edit:: Okay, think I've got it fixed. Refresh your browser if you're still missing an icon - if that doesn't work, tell me what/where it should be and I'll look into it.

[Mr. Flay]

Confirmed: the forum number appears to be the problem (Subscriptions page gives http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=

0

&t=18705&view=unread#unread, looks like it should be a 1 for globals)

[Mr. Flay]

Sizes 1-3 bug in some browsers.

[Mr. Flay]

In the near future most of the stuff here will be migrated to our new bug tracker. One of the things that will help that work better is to have some intelligent categories (components). So far we have:

• game moderation
  
• languages
  
• polls
  
• private messages
  
• prodding
  
• rendering
  
• styles
  
• trac
  
• wiki

What else? I'm not thrilled with 'rendering', but that's basically for content problems (links disappear, pages break, etc).

[Mr. Flay]

Board Styles...silver, sepia, etc.

Added bbcode

[Mr. Flay]

Maybe could add Game Mods the ability to do so for players in their games (say, someone announces it by PM and forgets to set it), but that'd be a ways down the line, if ever.

[Mr. Flay]

V/LA will now last until the

end

of your end date (server time), instead of the beginning.

[Mr. Flay]

There are a huge number of people who are not aware of the option of setting it yet.

And there is a huge number of people who appear to have set it on for the maximum time who aren't V/LA.

We can unset them if it becomes a huge problem. Where's your proof they're not V/LA?

[Mr. Flay]

It'd be nice if there was a way to distinguish between 'limited' and 'no' access, but that's a later refinement, if ever.

[Mr. Flay]

It comes from unapproved (spammer) topics on Help! We could probably rework the notifier so it doesn't count those...

[Mr. Flay]

And I just womped like 7 more.

[Mr. Flay]

Pretty much.

[Mr. Flay]

ETA: Oh, and is there any way to force an edit statement when you edit a post rather than it only showing if you edit after someone makes a subsequent post?

Yes... but I'm not sure there's strong demand, since we already don't allow edits in Mafia games. Can you elaborate on some use cases?

[Mr. Flay]

No problem. Mobile is VERY much a work in progress, and I got stumped on Tigers when a) my original graphics volunteer flaked out, and b) I lost track of the font we used on the original board.

Mobile isn't really done, either, but that doesn't mean Tigers won't happen. The Art usergroup is a good place to try to kickstart that if you've got talents to offer, too.

[Mr. Flay]

It MIGHT be possible to say 'Day 3 starts with post 12345678 and ends with post 23456789; show me all posts in this thread between those'. Actually I can see a pretty easy way to do that with the game metadata tables we keep dreaming of.

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