Micro 806: LMBBNSGPW1OTMI (Game Over)

[xyzzy]

VOTE: Invisibility

omgus

[xyzzy]

maestro is town

[xyzzy]

I can tell by the posts

[xyzzy]

I can tell by the posts

And how would be be different as scum?

In my opinion you can't possibly tell this early in a game. Posts can be faked.

this is a Bad Post and anyone who says you can't possibly begin to form reads on page 1 is wrong but I'm gonna keep my vote on Invisibility because he's deffo scum

I'm gonna make a couple more posts, I am playing from my phone so quoting multiple posts to respond to all of them is a nightmare and I will not be trying that

[xyzzy]

ALSO, asking somebody “how do you feel about X” is next to meaningless, so I’d argue any information you may get is going to be similar. If you actually wanted an illuminating or specific answer, your question(s) it(them)self would be an

actual

question. See? I can put italicized emphasis on words in my sentences

too

~

maestro is town for sure

[xyzzy]

okay maestro's definitely town

Invisibility, can you clarify what about maestro made you feel this way? it feels weird I'm this circumstance to have this response to someone scum reading you.

[xyzzy]

UNVOTE:
I didn't notice that. I still have a finger of suspicion on you though

I think I believe that BlackStar really didn't notice this and that it wasn't an attempt to get a quicklynch that could be written off as accidental. I'm not sure whether he's town or not (it's possible to not count votes as scum, too) but I don't think this is a specifically anti-town post.

[xyzzy]

the reason i was asking a bunch of questions was to get out of RVS asap because this is a blitz. i guess it worked so im happy.

this feels fake as hell. you get out of RVS by creating content, not by demanding that others do it for you.

[xyzzy]

I can tell by the posts

And how would be be different as scum?

In my opinion you can't possibly tell this early in a game. Posts can be faked.

feels bleh

like you're discouraging discussion

Since when is asking questions discouraging discussion?
I did want to know how she could tell by the posts.

FTR I'm more inclined to think Maestro is town.

to answer your question, maestro had a series of posts extremely early in the game that felt like efforts to analyze and comment on the game state.

also, this looks like a town player, I have seen quite a few town players in my time, and can tell that this is a town player from the posts

[xyzzy]

Where is XXYYZZZZZZZ with that meta list

I can't recall any games I've played with anyone in this game

[xyzzy]

Where is XXYYZZZZZZZ with that meta list

I can't recall any games I've played with anyone in this game

oh heck

[xyzzy]

listen: I can't possibly be expected to remember details like a game I was in a couple weeks ago

[xyzzy]

okay maestro's definitely town

Invisibility, can you clarify what about maestro made you feel this way? it feels weird I'm this circumstance to have this response to someone scum reading you.

34 and especially 35 felt good

this is a bad and scummy response

[xyzzy]

okay maestro's definitely town

Invisibility, can you clarify what about maestro made you feel this way? it feels weird I'm this circumstance to have this response to someone scum reading you.

34 and especially 35 felt good

this is a bad and scummy response

why?

I asked you why you thought Maestro's posts calling you scum made you think he's town and you just said that the posts are good, but clearly if you're town you can't believe they're completely good, because the conclusion they draw—that you are scum—is something you would know to be untrue. it's perfectly fine to read someone as town based on their scum read on you, but it should be founded on the basis that their arguments feel genuine and meaningful, not on just generally thinking the posts where they call you scum are good. if you are town, your response to those posts should've been "I like the tone of these posts/the things Maestro chooses to take into account/etc, but here's why the conclusion drawn is incorrect." it feels like a lazy attempt to make yourself maybe look marginally better, but you're intense to buy into your own response.

[xyzzy]

Have any of you played with HeWhoSwims before?

he honestly didn't even register in my mind as a person who is in this game until I read this post, read the player list,

and

read his ISO, but no

[xyzzy]

sometime hammer and we can win this thing

[xyzzy]

Original Roll String: 1d4

1 4-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

the dice will show us the way

[xyzzy]

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

[xyzzy]

voting with dice tags is a cherished tradition in "lovers mafia but X picks who scum is" games and it's legitimately a good way of generating discussion at this point in the game because of the lack of randomness in the setup itself

[xyzzy]

viewtopic.php?p=10071525#p10071525 mathdino won the very first instance of this setup this way. trust the system

[xyzzy]

106 is HeWhoSwims' only real post that actually says anything, and it's really not very substantial. I could definitely see him as lurker scum.

BlackStar, who are you thinking of? there's no reason to not just tell us who else you're scumreading.

[xyzzy]

it's a mistake to assume scum won't bus in this setup; obviously, they lose if they bus *too* hard, but you can bus someone without them getting lynched.

[xyzzy]

you're saying HeWhoSwims and TheBrie can't be scum together. your reasoning for this argument is totally wrong.

[xyzzy]

actually I'm pretty sure BlackStar is scum with either TheBrie or HeWhoSwims

[xyzzy]

VOTE: BlackStar/v]

[xyzzy]

VOTE: BlackStar

[xyzzy]

bussing is far more about distancing than getting town cred; you can get positive benefits out of making it seem like you can't be scum with someone without lynching them, and it's generally better to do so. you're mischaracterizing what bussing is, and I think you're doing that intentionally. 148 basically reads as you saying "here's some people I couldn't *possibly* be scum with, because then I would be bussing them, which we all know school would never do."

[xyzzy]

"You haven't explained any positives to bussing here" lmao okay I literally did that in the first sentence of my last post but sure

[xyzzy]

That’s not my idea btw

can you clarify what this post means?

[xyzzy]

oh nvm I got it

[xyzzy]

bussing is far more about distancing than getting town cred; you can get positive benefits out of making it seem like you can't be scum with someone without lynching them, and it's generally better to do so. you're mischaracterizing what bussing is, and I think you're doing that intentionally. 148 basically reads as you saying "here's some people I couldn't *possibly* be scum with, because then I would be bussing them, which we all know school would never do."

I don't see that in 148. You're making a bad case here, Xyzzy.

Sure, distancing your partner by voting them is something that could happen in this set up, but do you really think Black star does that here? Yuo're more likely to be doing it.

VOTE: Xyzzy

pedit: Lol, so as soon as I lay out a case for you being scum you suddenly believe I'm scum?

Exactly.

are you saying me/BlackStar could be scum? that seems like a weird conclusion to draw here.

[xyzzy]

I'd rather not leave open the possibility that we end up with a tie given the mechanics around having a tie at deadline. I feel like Maestro is definitely town and I trust his instincts here, so

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

[xyzzy]

oh my

[xyzzy]

sorry town :<

you made the right choice!!!

also here is an advertisement: I will be running a game called "lovers mafia but the mod picks who the mafia are and there's seven games and there's a points system, it's a whole thing" in the very near future

anyway Maestro your extremely rapid unvote after my vote was scary!!! I was very worried we would lose because you saw that my vote was horseshit