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Yup my one question was gonna be a why on that post until i saw it was already asked.In post 34, Map Wolf wrote:Also I agree that [p]27[/p] feels really weird and doesn't make much sense.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Ok my role makes sense knowing this. I should look up the first game too.In post 33, Map Wolf wrote:By the way, here is a summary of the characters.
Chuck Porter is a member of a crime organisation that Brett Wilkins leads.
Victor Garner and Lewis Robson are partners as cops
so are Ashley Williams and Asuka Tagawa
and Jack Turner and Trevor Price
Luke Jameson has no partner.
Courtney Turner and Danny Turner are wife and son of Jack.
Chet Gray is an alchoholic former cop and partner of Victor Garner.
Boston Rob had just moved into town.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Not sure why you even play then but it's not my place to have that conversation with you
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NoIn post 49, Asriel Dreemurr wrote:Are we doing a full claim day 1?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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So if there's anything to be gained from a mass flavor claim, it's only for scum to gain. Power role speculation.In post 59, Asriel Dreemurr wrote:
Scums have safeclaims.In post 54, Map Wolf wrote:I am curious, is it a lock that Chuck Porter and Brett Wilkins are the mafia flavor and everyone else is locktown? If so, then we might be able to use flavor to our advantage.
There are 9 pro-town flavours.
My gobble vote wasn't for focusing more on setup spec than scumhunting. Although it's interesting to note.safron wrote: I suspect we're on something *close to* the same wavelength but since your vote didn't count anyway, perhaps you would be interesting joining me here instead?
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That's an auto correct. Was supposed to say replace outsIn post 90, Kmd4390 wrote:The replace puts seem to back that up. Any interest in voting gobble with me?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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What part of that sounded like creature was talking about your alignment?In post 96, Deathtunelling WOATS wrote:
I couldn't disagree with you more. Sometimes I dont like having to deal with other people's expectations for me.In post 77, Creature wrote:tbh playing anon alts feels like saying "I don't give that much of a fuck for this game", hence why anon things are detestable
Plus you're implying that the decision to play anonymously is AI when it's decided before roles are received. If you're not trying to imply that then your wording is simply reckless because it kinda feels like you just slipped knowing my alignment.
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That's a weird leap in logic. Let's say someone in the queue said /in to troll next game. Don't give a fuck about it. I'd have a problem with that. Doesn't mean I'd think they're scum. Like you said yourself, what happens in the queue happens before role distribution. I don't understand how you can see that distinction and still believe he was calling you scum for it.In post 115, Deathtunelling WOATS wrote:
Why does he care if I "don't give a fuck about this game" (horribly untrue generalization btw) if I'm not town, aka the alignment is or is pretending to be?In post 111, Kmd4390 wrote:
What part of that sounded like creature was talking about your alignment?In post 96, Deathtunelling WOATS wrote:
I couldn't disagree with you more. Sometimes I dont like having to deal with other people's expectations for me.In post 77, Creature wrote:tbh playing anon alts feels like saying "I don't give that much of a fuck for this game", hence why anon things are detestable
Plus you're implying that the decision to play anonymously is AI when it's decided before roles are received. If you're not trying to imply that then your wording is simply reckless because it kinda feels like you just slipped knowing my alignment.
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If he's got a problem with my slot that means he should think I'm not town right? In which case what problem should he have with me not giving a fuck? In other words it seems like he wants to have his cake and eat it too.
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By this logic why didn't you vote me first? I didn't give my reason for voting gobble yet either.map wrote: Don't like the Creature vote on gobble. At least give some reasoning.
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You opened with an empty wagoning vote and that caught my eye so it's what I fell back on when I unvoted wimpy. Safron then made that comment about being on the same wavelength as me so I looked at his post and back at your ISO and noticed how you pressured the Miller claim without ever voting there. It had a feel of scum trying to latch onto something more than town trying to get the game rolling or week any answers.In post 136, gobbledygook wrote:KMD, why did you attempt to vote me earlier?
Um. That's not a creature. That's an actual picture of my face.zenith wrote: Sorry, I'm not sure why I said creature. Your avatar is fine. I think maybe somehow Kmd4390's avatar made me think of creature or something which cause the mixup. Your name seems like it would pair well with Kmd4390's avatar, but yea that's the one I find a little creepy. Imagine that creature staring at you through your bedroom window..
Has creatures meta changed? Mathdino told me he tryhards as town and lurks as scum but this was during the last team mafia so some time has passed.deathtunnel wrote: I didn’t necessarily see it either but this level of tryharding is scum!Creature, more often than not. His whole weird flex on Wimpy being online pings tf out of me. It hadn’t been remotely long enough for that imo.
Why do you think deathtunnel unvoted after creature provided meta?gobble wrote: I think Woats is bussing Creature. I am more sure that Woats is scum though.
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Can you elaborate on what bothered you about those posts, especially the first one?gobble wrote: I am scumreading Saffron Ghost for these comments
Asriel. I have a gut scum read that I know I'd never be able to put substance to. So if asriel is scum, I'd need the guilty result. If asriel is town, I no longer have that distraction. But then again, if I just told scum what I was about to do id probably pull a switch on map wolf or something.zenith wrote: Also, if you could investigate someone tonight, who would it be and why?
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If they were bussing creature they'd have no need to get him off their back. And I'm not sure unvoting would accomplish that in most cases.
I asked about safron because I townread that comment. I feel like scum would be more likely to make something up than admit they can't remember. What gives you the idea the opinions in the third quote are fake?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Maybe I'm wrong but I thought I saw hard reads on creature, deathtunnel, and myself in that post.
I think wimpy is townish. I'm still deciding on deathtunnel but I think a few things have come off as trying to look town. Specifically the comment about Hydra chat and the Unvote of creature.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Safron should respond to thisIn post 281, gobbledygook wrote:
(Because Saffron is scum )In post 279, Kmd4390 wrote:Id look in asriel/you/map I think. Gobble seems better now.
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I think the vote not matching up with the reads is another example of Saffron being scum.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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The game thread can be our PTIn post 288, gobbledygook wrote:KMD I wish I had a Pt with youKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I think that's mostly what the game is waiting on right now.In post 297, Map Wolf wrote:I want Saffron to post :/KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Nah. You mentioned suspicion on where I was voting and second guessing where you were voting so I asked you to join me.In post 307, Creature wrote:I'm not yet satisfied with Nancy's performance
gobble looks alright
I'm not seeing the Map townreads
Kmd I feel was trying to pocket me
Wimpy like disappeared and for some reason I thought he was in prod range too
I think you've played more than enough mafia to know that if you are genuinely talking reads in a Hydra pt it means you're town. So either your slot genuinely posted in the wrong thread and are definitely town OR your slot faked it and must be scum as a result. I don't like you pretending not to understand this.deathtunnel wrote: TIL that explaining that your partner accidentally posted in the game thread instead of the hydra thread (even when the post made obviously feels less directed at a whole playerlist) is LAMISTKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I thought I'd played with you before. Maybe I'm wrong? But yeah it seems like everyone who has commented on this so far understands it now. And whoever said it was wifom, and s, I is. It's loaded with wifom. Especially when you consider both players in the Hydra claim not to understand it.In post 406, Deathtunelling WOATS wrote:It's kind of bold for kmd to assume that I should know the implications of that whole thing when he doesnt know me at all as far as I'm aware. But I'm not sure that that's AI in the way he handled it.
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Creature, you were asked twice where safron was opportunistic. Did I miss an answer to it?
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What was that supposed to mean then? Because it sounded like you wanted to lynch himgobble wrote: I don't want to lynch you. That was sloppy writing on my part in that post.
1) Can we not do this?gobble wrote: KMD softed PR
2) This is my final response to anything along those lines.
Yes. I don't care who broke rules or said mean things. I'm not the mod. If someone did something because of their alignment, I'm interested. But I don't see it in any of that mess which is why my opinions are being kept to myself.zenith wrote: I think everything to say on this topic has been said and that everyone should just move on already. For the purpose of improving the health of this game, can we please just drop it and act like it didn't happen?
Is it bad if i think this is genuine?zenith wrote: Anyways, point being that I didn't know what a miller was until I read my role. Feel free to be skeptical if I ever claim miller again, but i think anyone familiar with me can pretty much consider me almost conf town
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Eth0s you're right. It doesn't look like we've played together. You played in a game I missed but I think I may have confused you with someone else. Not sure who, even. Maybe Erg0. I don't know. For some reason I thought you had a lot more experience than you do but I see you have a 2017 join date.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Now im wondering if the rule of three applies if other players don't get listedIn post 792, Map Wolf wrote:
Nah he's probably in the top 3 of the most scummy in my view.In post 791, Wimpy wrote:makes me think my creature/wolf team is actually rightKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I got the opposite impression that most people did on safrons wavelength comment. It made sense to me why he voted where he did and why he thought I voted elsewhere under the same reason. To me it looked like an attempt to solve. And then his post about not remembering his own reasoning I thought as scum he'd have made something up. I just don't see the surefire scum case everyone else sees.
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Mini 677 setup wrote: > Alive
Beyond_Birthday replaces Tekkactus, Naive Cop.
Kmd4390, Nurse.
> Dead
BlakAdder, Godfather, Democrat Mafia, lynched Day 1.
darkdude, Retired Cop, Shot Night 1
Mana_Ku, Psychiatrist, Shot Night 1
StrangerCoug Framer, Democrat Mafia, lynched Day 2
afatchic, Naive Doctor, Shot Night 2
caf19 Framer, Red Mafia, lynched Day 3
Pads, Firefighter, Shot Night 3
RossWilliam, Miller, Lynched Day 4.
Tampons, Mason, Shot Night 4.
UnofficialRulerOfEveryone Godfather, Red Mafia, lynched Day 5KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Theres always the fact that if town pisskop will be a bigger asset going forward. Otherwise it's hard because:In post 914, Zenith wrote:
You're welcome to try to make that case to shift the wagon if you want. Just under a 2 day max time limit.In post 913, Kmd4390 wrote:Lynching asriel instead is a good reasonIn post 920, Deathtunelling WOATS wrote:In post 913, Kmd4390 wrote:Lynching asriel instead is a good reason
Astriel not posting makes it tough to read him. Is he up for a prodge yet?In post 914, Zenith wrote:
You're welcome to try to make that case to shift the wagon if you want. Just under a 2 day max time limit.In post 913, Kmd4390 wrote:Lynching asriel instead is a good reasonKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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If that's what happens fine, but I prefer to operate under the assumption that we are dealing with the players who are currently in the game.In post 925, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
If Asriel needs to be replaced, the mod would probably grant us an extension.In post 922, Kmd4390 wrote:
Theres always the fact that if town pisskop will be a bigger asset going forward. Otherwise it's hard because:In post 914, Zenith wrote:
You're welcome to try to make that case to shift the wagon if you want. Just under a 2 day max time limit.In post 913, Kmd4390 wrote:Lynching asriel instead is a good reasonIn post 920, Deathtunelling WOATS wrote:In post 913, Kmd4390 wrote:Lynching asriel instead is a good reason
Astriel not posting makes it tough to read him. Is he up for a prodge yet?In post 914, Zenith wrote:
You're welcome to try to make that case to shift the wagon if you want. Just under a 2 day max time limit.In post 913, Kmd4390 wrote:Lynching asriel instead is a good reasonKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Its possible this is a buddy either wanting their buddy to claim and the wagon to go away or thinking they were already going down. Wimpy also wasn't on this particular wagon but ended up hammering, reluctantly from the sounds of it:
I think my best guess right now is map or wimpy.In post 943, Wimpy wrote:I sort of feel like if piss was legit he’d be putting up more of a fight. I still don’t understand this wagon but based on his play I guess I can see why people find it scummy.
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I'm thinking town now. It's possible they bussed but I think it was map or wimpy. I also have a guess at something that would make them town.In post 966, gobbledygook wrote:Kmd, what is your opinion of Woats?
I think I am right about my hypothesis from yesterday.
If I'm not mistaken the remaining player list is the lynch wagon and myself .deathtunnel wrote: why do you say this?
I mean it seems straightforward to me that a vocal player like creature and a lurker like asriel get killed, scum probably killed the vocal player unless they for some reason thought asriel slipped power role or something. And all I meant with that last line is there are other roles that can kill that aren't scum and vig.deathtunnel wrote: Okay actually I think this is a scumslip.
Yes, kmd did provide a sliver of reasoning in the first post that creature was likely "scum's kill", for reasons that I could only assume since none are given. But it's just that, no reasoning given makes it a somewhat weak point but fine on it's own.
Then you see the bold underlined bit from the second post, there is no second thought given to who the "non-scum kill" would even be targeted towards. He just flat out TMIs that it's asriel who is killed by not-scum.
I'm probably not articulating this well but surely others see what I mean? Why not just leave it at "I don't think we should talk about how many shots a potential vig has"?
"if vig is even the role that killed asriel" is a perspective slip in which kmd shows that he knows why creature died, but does not know for sure why asriel died. Pretty clever to bring up a desire to keep quiet about a vig, as it makes him look better, but he totally blew it with the bold underlined bit.
That's where I'm leaning. I don't think wimpy is scum here from his Day 2 posts.gobble wrote: Watch it be wolf this entire time. He’s chuck porter who invaded my neighborhood
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The bolded makes sense as a VT, does It not? As soon as you say "my role", scum start to think you are a power role and the best thing a VT can do for their team is get night killed. Scum kills active players and my real life prevents me from being as active as everyone else. So this was my way of trying to draw the NK.In post 45, Kmd4390 wrote:
Ok my role makes sense knowing this. I should look up the first game too.In post 33, Map Wolf wrote:By the way, here is a summary of the characters.
Chuck Porter is a member of a crime organisation that Brett Wilkins leads.
Victor Garner and Lewis Robson are partners as cops
so are Ashley Williams and Asuka Tagawa
and Jack Turner and Trevor Price
Luke Jameson has no partner.
Courtney Turner and Danny Turner are wife and son of Jack.
Chet Gray is an alchoholic former cop and partner of Victor Garner.
Boston Rob had just moved into town.One comment isnt enough. I intentionally played to not wanting my role exposed. Which in a way was true. If we massclaimed day 1 and I was outted as VT, I never get NK'd.
Too obviously a VT.ve never been big on outguessing the mod, especially an experienced mod. I also would prefer not to claim my character after already hinting towards it making sense with my role.
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Neither confirmed now denied. I didn't want to lie and never once did but I also wanted to manipulate scum into thinking I was a power role. I shut down any more discussion on it from myself because anything more would have been overkill and I didn't want it to be obvious what I was doing.me wrote: 1) Can we not do this?
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If I was scum I'd claim something that makes people Unvote and not target me at night. PGO would have been a good one. Maybe gunsmith or vanilla cop because they'd be weak enough in this kind of game to make sense. But VT? No. Especially not with people thinking I'm a power role already. It should be painfully obvious what I was trying to do in hindsight .KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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