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In post 58, Raymond Chestnut wrote:Only serious posts from now on, we need to seriously scumhunt this game
Now stop flooding this place, scum.
this is a scum
VOTE: Raymond Chestnut
I think you might actually be town here, so you and sissy are like, going to be my two rocks this game while figure out how tf to navigate this game and actually make it so that we win
The three jesters get killed next and mafia reach parity. Town can try to get killed to screw the jesters but it seems like mafia win is assured unless people decide not to kill sissy here.
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Post #195 (isolation #26) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:50 am
Postby Hazel Rofa »
VOTE: grace
I feel safer voting there, I think Lila could be jester pretending to be jester and I'm wary of voting there, but I guess I can see where raymond is coming from
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Post #257 (isolation #29) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:16 pm
Postby Hazel Rofa »
At the same time I feel like I could easily switch you and swedes around.
I don't like graces lack of engagement, I don't like graces telling of information but actual lack of hunting of any kind, and everything she is doing is entirely surface level.
I also feel like she feels the need to effort enough so that she doesn't get limmed here so she throws manipulative words that are designed to make people back down rather than want to fight her further which also supports her as not jester in this case
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Post #264 (isolation #32) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:29 am
Postby Hazel Rofa »
If I'm saying handlers reaction to a jester willing to town side is "ok, we'll let you win tomorrow if we hab a mafia today" as a town reaction then it's obvious that I'm going to read the exact opposite reaction as a different alignment?
Lila!scum wouldn't like the idea of jester townsiding because it makes her wincon harder to achieve. If she can successfully get another mislim today why would she want to work with a jester?
Lila!jester doesn't like the idea of another jester townsiding because I'm a game with just two jesters instead of three, she would have to work that much harder to get limmed before the other jester. Lila!jester would be harboring some level of irritation towards chacha clearly claiming jester and Townsiding, and being the first jester to think of the idea before any other of the jesters could
In post 205, Grace Hargreeves wrote:Let me break it down a little bit further. Jesters have no real incentive to try or look like they're trying. If anything they want to look like Mafia.
Town wants to either blend in with the Jesters and not try or try and sort people.
Mafia wants to look like Town, but they aren't so they struggle.
You can throw in layers of WIFOM if you want, and say really Jesters want to look like Mafia who want to look like Town, so jesters want to look like Town. At the end of the day, the above still holds though. The only reason a Jester would want to look like Town is so they get scumread.
Speaking of: Jesters now have to townside.
How is this ever a scum post?
This post is text book IIOA, why couldn't it be a scum post? It has no intent, she's not scum hunting all she's doing is literally stating information that any one of us could say.
In post 283, Lila Pitts wrote:In a world where Raymond isn’t scum, we can all yell at him post game for probably losing it for us.
I'm town
and you haven't given me a single reason why Grace is readable as town in any universe whatsoever
If you're town then my read on handler is wrong, but I don't think it is. We seem to be on the same wavelength which is weird. It also means you are also likely uninformed so if you're jester just drop the act and help us win and I'll make sure you'll win too
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Post #310 (isolation #42) » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:26 am
Postby Hazel Rofa »
In post 304, Lila Pitts wrote:So in your opinion, is scum or jester more likely to lie about being vt?
I think scum is more likely to pretend that they are VT
The thing about Raymond, from my perspective, though is it looks like they are coming to the same conclusions that I am, seeing the game the same way I am and making pushes that I feel are making sense this game. It lines up almost too perfectly to be a pocket and it lines up to perfectly for it to be like scum pretending to be town if that makes sense.
There are points in where he is making pushes before I am
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Post #472 (isolation #47) » Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:06 pm
Postby Hazel Rofa »
It could also be dumb telling while intentionally voting the IC.
Normally I think scum would want to avoid the attention she would garner from that but if he was trying to look like a jester so that everyone else would be adverse to limming him via reverse psychology then it works perfectly for her strategy
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Post #474 (isolation #48) » Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:10 pm
Postby Hazel Rofa »
Also given your response about grace, I'm less sure about my read on handler. Mafia mind melding with another town (or in this case uninformed) is pretty difficult.
In my mind, if grace is the other VT, then handlers strategy here would be the exact opposite of her partner
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Post #477 (isolation #49) » Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:15 pm
Postby Hazel Rofa »
In post 236, The Handler wrote:I am down for that. Hell if you solve the game I might just elim you today even.
I town read this because of the eagerness to work with a jester townsiding but like, if the handler is mafia trying to blend in with the VTs, this actually wouldn't be that hard a post to make
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Post #478 (isolation #50) » Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:18 pm
Postby Hazel Rofa »
In post 454, The Handler wrote:Hot take: Lila doesn’t want to elim Grace. Jesters don’t give a fuck
Mmm...
I mean I said it earlier that Lila didn't want chacha getting her wincon before she did because that means she would need to work that much harder.
If Lila also believed grace to be jester here as well, with Cha Cha townsiding and grace ending up a limmed jester, Lila can't win without the other two factions losing. It becomes near impossible for her to win so why wouldn't she care?
Next Saturday should be worth keeping me around for
What is going to happen then?
Yeah, Grace is mindmelding with me too much to be mafia, so that’s why she’s extremely likely to be jester. But you are trying to look more like jester and Raymond is trying to look more town despite acting not town.
In post 304, Lila Pitts wrote:So in your opinion, is scum or jester more likely to lie about being vt?
I think scum is more likely to pretend that they are VT
The thing about Raymond, from my perspective, though is it looks like they are coming to the same conclusions that I am, seeing the game the same way I am and making pushes that I feel are making sense this game. It lines up almost too perfectly to be a pocket and it lines up to perfectly for it to be like scum pretending to be town if that makes sense.
There are points in where he is making pushes before I am
Problem for me is that’s exactly how I feel about Grace except unlikely Raymond she isn’t fakeclaiming vt.
VOTE: Raymond
My response on grace was in regards to Lila defending grace because of the mind melding.
It's the exact reason why I thought raymond is uninformed.
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Post #482 (isolation #52) » Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:24 pm
Postby Hazel Rofa »
In post 479, Lila Pitts wrote:Yeah I think Swedes doesn’t like me very much because they said I haven’t been helpful when I think I’ve efforted probably more than anyone, especially for someone who isn’t town.
If the scum team is swedes/handler or swedes/grace, I don't think they would like you very much for having the game for town nearly solved despite not being town