I am against mass claiming. AMA.
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I am against mass claiming. AMA.-
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Innocent child most likely.-
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Vig shot to head, what is your read on Saudade?In post 52, ejjinami wrote:
disagree but let’s just see how it goes then. Discussing mafia actions that haven’t happened yet is not a good ideaIn post 42, Raya36 wrote:Idk, personally too much wifom about the 1 scum or no kill for me to be happy with that plan. Mafia no kills and then we're just picking off our vigs because we assumed mafia had no reason to no kill.
All kills will be claimed though. If we go through with this mafia have no choice but to have 1 claim vig and the kill or else we have a bunch of confirmed townies. Unless they're assuming there won't be many vigs that aren't blank and they're ok with that amount getting confirmed. Then they're obvious targets for the kill because they're confirmed town and also confirmed not to be bombs.wild guess: if saudade is scum, it probably isn’t with T-bone
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Could it be? A mason buddy before 100 posts? Flea...will you be my mason buddy??-
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Sure. Why?-
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What page is Not_Mafia scum based?-
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Because you wanted me to.-
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Easily in the top 3 decisions I have made on this page.-
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It's a fine thing to go on as much as anything on Day 1 is.
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I'm more interested in the players ignoring this scumslip honestly. It's the most significant piece of game action, and we have ~3 players with opinions on it, and just one asking about it?
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That's Saudade, Not_Mafia, and nepenthe in particular I think? Can't recall finding any opinions from any of those players. MiniVirgo at least acknowledged, and at least Raya is actively engaging with the most significant development of the day.-
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Well now we can remove Not-Mafia from that list kinda.-
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I love you brass you just set yourself up and I spiked it.In post 205, brassherald wrote:There's no emoji to show how much I am crying between you doing this and Not_Mafia confusing me with Jan.
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It's one of those things where frankly, we need to demand an opinion from everyone on.-
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Dammit Brass. It's over.-
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What was your thought that led to this change?
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I know you feel like this is about you atm (for obvious reasons)...but it actually hasn't been about you since Flea's initiation of the issue.-
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I give you permission and won't claim you're confirmed scum if you do it.
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Why what?-
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Okay but why do you have a problem with your top scum read getting limmed? So what if Not_Mafia hammers at E-1?In post 286, Flea The Magician wrote:N_M's rep reached me long ago, like the moment there's a clear E-1 that lolhammer is going down.
Like even I know that, and that N_M should be treated as an automatic frikken hammer...
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I understand your desire to keep defending yourself from this, but as I said this isn't really about you anymore and it'd be great if you could offer up something, anything else.In post 288, Kop wrote:
I wasn't appealing, I just don't think your constant push on this coming from scum.In post 287, Raya36 wrote:
I'm thinking Kop is just scum too. He hasn't done much unrelated to mechanics or the slip thing. His latest townreading me and Flea for pushing the slip and analyzing the reactions sounds like scum trying to sound indifferent.In post 280, MiniVirgo wrote:
Yeah that probably proves that they slipped tbf, whether or not that's a scum-slip is debatable, although I'm leaning towards that it is.In post 255, Raya36 wrote:Procrastination at it's finest:
Spoiler: Kop Doctor Games
I think that should be enough to say that Kop should not be assuming a doc role and it's no longer sampling bias
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Idk, I think it's best for more content since we have 4 days or so left. But the game has been pretty stagnant so maybe we need a flip.In post 281, MiniVirgo wrote:Anyone voting Kop and putting them at lolhammer range with N_M in the game should be considered a scum-claim, I am not taking this lightly
And as for the previous games that you have pulled up, like I said I don't exactly remember every single role that was in those games, but I'm going off the basic setups that doctor roles are common roles, not in every game I agree, but it is a common role.-
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Vote: Saudade
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My vote is to eliminate scum. At least Kop engages with the game. Saudade does nothing except complain about the game. Maybe that's apathetic town...but I think it might be scum trying to induce some apathy on the game.-
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I could do either or at this point. I can still see a window where Kop is town and made an honest mistake. It's 50-50 for me. If we end the day with a lim on either player, I think that ends up being a productive day, especially if we flip scum.
Although quite suspicious that the Kop wagon was sitting there for days, and you only jump on when we shift it to Saudade.-
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Maybe I let Raya occupy my blindspot in the name of "productivity". There's my pet 'this might be scum' read for the day. Will have to reconsider. I just wanted to put my thought out there.-
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I mean, the other three votes shifted pretty quickly to Saudade, and thus, have a willingness to change votes quickly and could do so again. So that's a poor excuse.-
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The roundabout way we had to go to get here though.
I'm still sus on Saudade for the reasons we just tried to lim him instead. I'm going to voice that it is still weird that we couldn't get the votes for Kop until after Flea/brass/I moved off of Kop briefly, which I think puts scum points on Raya and MiniVirgo. Those three players I think move into the top of my pile as we currently stand, flip pending, if brass or Not_Mafia come on and hammer before someone jumps off AGAIN.-
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I disagree and will continue to say as such. You've sat on the fence all day. So I'm pointing that out for the benefit of everyone else and their reads going forward.-
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I can't think of a single read you've expressed other than Kop, which is crazy since you have the most posts. I have an idea about nearly every other player in this game. Nothing stands out about you. Nothing that you've done, nothing that you've said. If you want to change that, please by all means. You've been sort of but not really but kinda yeah locked into kop-scum and that's about it.
You may have other reads and thoughts about the game and that's great. But I don't know what they are, and I doubt anyone else does either. That's a problem, and why I am bringing it up as we close out Day 1. You are playing like Kop is minus the scumslip.-
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In terms of that I don't know what Kop's reads or thoughts are either because all he can do is muster up a defense for the slip.-
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That is probably not the mafia kill. Mafia ain't killing a slot with 8 posts and a slot with LHF potential.-
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Yeah I think nepathe is a vig shot more than a mafia shot. Nepathe is a good target for smart big play. I could see a scenario where mafia reserve their shot for fear of bombs.
If it is a mafia shot, then that says something about the game state is very favorable to the current mafia team.-
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Independent of NM's claim, on thinking it some more, I think this being the mafia shot is the most likely scenario. I was just baffled at the start of the day.
I think that means the current gamestate as of the end of Day 1 was favorable to scum. For my part, I was expressing interest in pursuing an elimination of Raya or Saudade, and then Flea and Brass were my town reads. I gotta say from my perspective, that makes this kill a very good idea for scum!Flea and/or scum!Brass. It kinda works for scum!Raya and scum!Mini too, but not as a team. It doesn't really work for scum!Saudade or scum!NM in my opinion (with the exception of NM trying a blank vig gambit). But, at this stage, I believe NM is telling the truth, because I would take the same shot as a Vig 100%. In fact I did.-
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I wouldn't have but its relevant to the discussion at hand. And I can't sit on this for if we were to mass claim on a future day. 'oh by the way guys I also targeted Nep N1 but didn't say anything until now'.-
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Yeah brass stop claiming your roles sheeeeesh-
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I think I explained myself pretty well, what don't you understand?-
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I was very clear. You don't get to say it makes no sense when you literally quoted the entire explanation LOLIn post 449, Raya36 wrote:
This makes no sense when it was very clear I was avoiding NME-1In post 349, T-Bone wrote: Although quite suspicious that the Kop wagon was sitting there for days, and you only jump on when we shift it to Saudade.
This doesn't make it a poor excuse. It was in my control to not put Kop at NME-1 but I'm not going to hold my vote when there's an empty wagon just because peopleIn post 352, T-Bone wrote:I mean, the other three votes shifted pretty quickly to Saudade, and thus, have a willingness to change votes quickly and could do so again. So that's a poor excuse.couldmove back to the wagon and bring it to NME-1.
NME-1In post 381, T-Bone wrote:I'm going to voice that it is still weird that we couldn't get the votes for Kop until after Flea/brass/I moved off of Kop briefly
I was very vocal about not wanting Kop hammered yet but wanting him to be the eliminationIn post 383, T-Bone wrote:I disagree and will continue to say as such. You've sat on the fence all day. So I'm pointing that out for the benefit of everyone else and their reads going forward.
This is the only valid point and it's irrelevant to me holding off my Kop vote that you scumread me for.In post 385, T-Bone wrote:I can't think of a single read you've expressed other than Kop, which is crazy since you have the most posts. I have an idea about nearly every other player in this game. Nothing stands out about you. Nothing that you've done, nothing that you've said. If you want to change that, please by all means. You've been sort of but not really but kinda yeah locked into kop-scum and that's about it.
You may have other reads and thoughts about the game and that's great. But I don't know what they are, and I doubt anyone else does either. That's a problem, and why I am bringing it up as we close out Day 1. You are playing like Kop is minus the scumslip.
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I was really close to actually dropping a vote on Brass but Raya reminds me again why I am leaning scum on her. And I really wanted to reevaluate because the Nep kill doesn't make a lot of sense for scum!Raya when the status quo had a little momentum for her elimination.
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What has Raya offered to the game state? Day 1 she offered just a single hedged stance on Kop. Day 2...she offered a vote on Brass?? The gamestate would be fine without her.In post 466, Saudade wrote:Raya doesnt look scum at all
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And yes, I'm not arguing the point with you anymore. I am using the word HEDGED because that's how I see it. I don't care if you think you were more direct, I don't think you were. Waiting for everyone else to get off the wagon before you got one does NOT demonstrate any conviction.-
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I generally subscribe to that philosophy, but what is that in reaction to?-
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Fleas switched to Saudade ON THIS VERY PAGE pls read the game BrAsS-
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Okay really I'm teasing you ftr-
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I'm gonna try out something spicy.
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Because they've sat in my blindspot and for a player with so many posts nothing stands out about them. Similar to the problem I had with you, but you corrected that for me-
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Like I think honestly if GeorgeBailey went and deleted all of MiniVirgo's posts, no one would notice.
Which while is it an indictment on town!MV... it falls in line with what good scum play might look like, and it is very noticeable to me right now. How does this player have more posts than me and be such a ghost???
Funny thing is when I mentioned this at the end of day 1 (looking through their ISO after looking through Raya's ISO), I thought to myself 'okay, they are invisible, but look they are posting stances on more players than Raya is'. Hence my focus on Raya at the end of Day 1 plus the start of this day.
While I'm not satisfied that Raya has given much more in the way of reads and trying to sort players on Day 1, at least she now has a personality in my head canon, so that's a kind of progress.-
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Without looking, can you summarize their reads or major stances taken this game?-
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Sorry, that's an unfair expectation that has nothing to do with the game. Nevermind that.-
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Because I think the gamestate right now benefits scum who don't stand out, so I want to shake it up.-
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That was a scummy sequence of posts. Yikes.-
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