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absolutely pessimistic caught scum, the only other answer is if there's a jester in the Superb Idea thread.
He doesn't believe this, btw. He just finished a game with scum-me and I had literally fought back on a guilty. There were also much stronger pushes on me in that game, on that Day one and I used those pushes to my advantage. I don't throw my hands up as scum, ever.
This is also extremely simple minded, and very shallow when he is capable of thinking beyond such a thing as town
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Post #39 (isolation #10) » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:34 pm
Postby Momrangal »
In post 31, OutWorldER wrote:i may be willing to let [REDACTED] win if [REDACTED] winning does not end the game.
He's also saying this while not unvoting me. The town move here would be to clarify the game moving forward.
I probably got this game broken wide open already but it's the second day of day one and there are tons of people who having gotten much of their own two cents in since the game moved on to more serious topics
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Post #49 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:38 am
Postby Momrangal »
In post 44, OutWorldER wrote:and now your turning around and trying to say my push on you is simple-minded and using vague meta on me to try and push a mis-elim on me.
It is a very black and white statement and push regardless of whatever meta I used
And yes I am burned out as scum but I was just as burned out while I was playing the 4 games simultaneously as I am now. If I wasn't playing a sloppy game then, why would I play sloppy here?
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Post #115 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:31 am
Postby Momrangal »
In post 111, pirate mollie wrote:for realz, she could very well be town and doing this, lol. it is why I am not worrying about it. I imagine the problem is self-resolving.
Even after all this time, mollie knows me too well <3
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Post #117 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:34 am
Postby Momrangal »
In post 94, DkKoba wrote:outworld is so blatantly town never elim that slot thanks
I don't agree with you
Alsoooo
Set up is confirmed 6:2:1.
As you said, games are 3 dementional. I understand you think that it's more typical for scum to claim 4p or whatever but why do you think scum would open themselves up to a CC this early on and instead hope that they can kill the 3p at night and at the same time, hope the 3p can maybe work for them?
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Post #121 (isolation #22) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:51 am
Postby Momrangal »
Compulsive bodyguard survivor
Free spirit (causes night kills to fail if target makes kill, wins if they prevent kill in this manner)
Lyncher who can self treestump
Night enabling survivor
Bulletproof who can redirect night actions (wins if 4 night actions are redirected)
BG 3p role
Hider 3p role
Unjester (jester that wins if NK'D)
Kidnapper (all actions fail on kidnapped person, kidnapped person cannot do actions) survivor wincon
JOAT with three protective abilities, survivor wincon
Bulletproof SK
Doctor With the condition of target dying the following night if kill was prevented. Wins if prevents three kills
Some demon survivor role
A jester who is a compulsive BG and also vengeful
Someone who wins if never targeted by night actions
A survivor who is ascetic and bulletproof
A poisoner survivor who dies if targeted twice
Jester Framer
Gravedigger miller BG unjester
BP miller SK
Gladiator who wins if gladiated target is elimiated
A survivor who is townie D2 (one shot townie)
Rolecop survivor
Double voter separatist. Splits the plist in two, and wins if only one of those groups remain
Rolestopper who wins when 1: a night happens where there isn't a kill or town wins without reaching Elo or Mylo
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Post #122 (isolation #23) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:18 pm
Postby Momrangal »
An SK type role that can functions as RC, RC'd target is protected and if kill is attempted reclaimer is notified. Can day kill anyone who is reclaimed
Odd cycle jester, even cycle unjester
Highroller: can place bets on players. If elimiated following day, chip is earned. Can place high stake bet. Wins if wins high stake bet it holds three chips, looses if high stake bet is lost
1shot death proof survivor
Super jester (wins if three or more people call them jester)
A JK who wins if they are number one on a scum wagon that goes through
Combined Cycle 1/4/6/7 Jester / Cycle 2/3/5/8 Unjester / Cycle 9+ Survivor
Even cycle jester, odd cycle unjester
Mastermind. Wins if scum gets their wincon but scum lose anyway. Scum are aware of the presence of mastermind
SK who gives all scum 1shot BP but redirects all scum kills to target of choice.
A auto hammerer who wins as a lyncher
3P inquisitor
Brawler (doesn't exist this game. Three people are revealed to town, one scum one town and them)
Prophet . Predicts when game ends, win if prediction is correct. Select targets at night, target cannot die until after the next elimination. Everyone is aware of this at day start.
Survivor cult
Bomber. Can put fuse on target. If target is attacked, target survives and fuse is lit. Once lit, bomber must be eliminated within two days or everyone dies.
Lyncher who comes back as werewolf
Arsonist
2shot gunsmith survivor
Obsessed SK, cannot kill at night until they eliminate the object of their obsession which is chosen pre d1
Night 1 doomed jester. Dies after night one
Devil (3p who wins with mafia)
3p that gains the role of the first dead person and wins with the team of first person who died. Dies on N2.
Another survivor with a one shot BP
Guardian angel. Survivor type role who wins when their target survives to end game
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Post #123 (isolation #24) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:31 pm
Postby Momrangal »
Day BP SK
SK who chooses invest immunity or BP
Pirate. 3p RB who can duel people. Wins if wins three duels
A BP survivor who doesn't get a role PM
A jester who prevents everyone from getting a role PM, and is informed of everyone's roles
Survivor with 1 shot RC and 1 shot self doc
The first 3p found on a random page for greater idea
Unjester cop disabler
Survivor who is obsessed with threes
Survivor with three one shot neighborizor.
An SK that shift into the role of their target
A 3p who wins if targeted three times in a single night
3p neighborizor who wins if their neigbor wins and neighbor gets a 1 shot bp vest
An SK role called dawnkiller
A 3p role who cannot win and swaps alignments with a target
A bodyguard who wins if their target wins the game
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Post #124 (isolation #25) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:36 pm
Postby Momrangal »
I'm town bodyguard, and Whemestar is the real 3p given he was the only one who knew without a doubt that jester didn't exist in this game.
He cannot be a free spirit because that is the 3p role that is attached to my post in the superb idea thread, and I'm inclined to believe he is none of the crazy amount of submitted jester roles in the game.
So the question is, which of these roles does Whemestar have, and what are the odds that Whemestar can townside this game.
It also means that we have effectively one less person to worry about this game so
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Post #127 (isolation #27) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:51 pm
Postby Momrangal »
In post 1, BBmolla wrote:Game Specific:
Randomly generate 10 numbers from between 1 and the most recent post number in the thread.
6 of the posts: Add town role to the setup.
2 of the posts: Add mafia role to the setup.
2 of the posts: Send both of the third party roles to a random player. This player will choose which third party role they want.
Setup is made. Rest of Role PMs are sent out. Game begins.
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Post #130 (isolation #29) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:09 pm
Postby Momrangal »
There are 67 possible 3P roles in the game
18 of them have survivor wincons
13 roles that have an SK wincon
7 3P roles that work similar to a lyncher
11 jester akin roles
And 17 3P roles that have different type of wincon.
And one that can't even win
Three of those in the last group I know for a fact doesn't exist.
Free spirit doesn't exist and brawler doesn't exist. None of the jester roles exist in this game, and the survivor who doesn't get a role PM doesn't exist in the game because if it did, we would have probably have seen it when the person has checked in.
That leaves us with 53 possible 3p roles that can be in the game
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Post #133 (isolation #30) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:26 pm
Postby Momrangal »
Two of the survivor akin roles can effectively work for town, the guardian angel is conditional, however to the angels target being town.
One of the lyncher roles can explicitly townside
Otherwise, of the 17 roles with a different type of wincon four of them can explicitly town side. Two of them are explicitly scum sided. Most of the remaining 11 are all more or less revolved around a single person, be it protecting that person or surviving with that person. A few others are dependant on who is the first one to be elimiated.
This means, of the 53 possible 3p roles that Whemestar can be
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Post #157 (isolation #35) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:00 am
Postby Momrangal »
In post 146, Gamma Emerald wrote:Is there a scum role that would have info about what 3p exists
Because WhemeStar feels like scum with how he responded to momrangal
Savy mafioso. If the mastermind exists this game, then Whemestar and his partner would be aware of his presence so there is also that, which would suck
RB a doc or a cop. Suffice to say, if I survive I'm not going to use my abilities. I'm not super confident outside of Whemestar and OWER scum and DK and Titus town
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Post #164 (isolation #39) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:07 am
Postby Momrangal »
And if we have a killing 3P role, or Whemestar is vagrant (3P hider) then false positives can happen. There are also some commuting roles for town and scum iirc
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Post #220 (isolation #46) » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:47 am
Postby Momrangal »
Did you look over the thread?
There are more town-siding 3P roles then there are scum siding 3p roles and there are a smaller amount of 3p roles who have the SK wincon and most of the 3p roles sport the survivor wincon.
I'm not keen on actually ending the day early despite my statement on on insta-hammering Whemestar. I'm not keen on his play, but I'm more concerned with finding scum based on the 3p info
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Post #225 (isolation #49) » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:02 am
Postby Momrangal »
Also, tea is straight Null. Their argument against you is entirely reasonable and based off the content in the game. You are blatantly sheeping others into the game, including me onto OWER even though you have a scum read on me.
At the same time , tea party doesn't give much of their own reads and expand on what they are thinking on their reads and keen on pushing the cases others put forth
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Post #363 (isolation #55) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:27 pm
Postby Momrangal »
While I have a moment, molla is correct in that the only day cop variant that is in the superb idea thread is one that reveals the alignment in thread and the cop suicides that night.
I do agree with hatter that gammas response isnt overblown here, but I'm not keen on his play regardless. He would be annoyed at that kind of push regardless of his alignment so his emotional outburst isnt doing anything for me.
I also disagree with Hatter scum because I don't think he would go to bat so hard for a buddy this early knowing it's going to put him under negative fire come tomorrow.
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Post #364 (isolation #56) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:29 pm
Postby Momrangal »
I also dont think Koba!scum would be sloppy with their fakeclaim as and I think Koba!town would run a gambit and not double check the thread to see if it's viable to actually do.
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Post #379 (isolation #57) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:59 pm
Postby Momrangal »
I pose another question.
Why is Koba scum for the gambit but I don't get the same treatment? If town doesn't have reason to lie, then I'm either being truthful about being jester or I am scum.
Having claimed Jester is setting myself up to lose so...?
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Post #414 (isolation #58) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:30 pm
Postby Momrangal »
They are insisting that I'm wrong. No one has really looked into the setup spec and no one has really talked about it outside wheme saying I'm wrong and stuff