Micro 1004: Burdened By Secrecy

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Randomly voting during eLo is anti-town

Klaus and Allison win four demerits each for playing against town win condition.

I award myself 100 points for picking up a town role pm.

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Actually perhaps the fact neither of you realized it was eLo and the gravity of your vote makes you town?

*think* *think*

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Klaus thou doth protest too much


I will award you an additional 8 demerits for trying to tamper with my official scoring system.

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Vanya would you like to vote for Klaus?

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intent to hammer

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why would mafia self-vote

if they get voted out they lose no matter what?

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you self vote then

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why do you think Klaus is scum? If we eliminate a town and the paragons guess wrong we still lose

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why not Lila?

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Klaus townspewed when Klaus self-voted

there is no way for mafia to win with a self-elimination.

it is the desperate move of a townie.

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it feels like you are mafia who is trying to force me into voting for a townie.

you trying to rush a Klaus elimination when he is obviously town here is scaring me

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Klaus vote for alison

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time is running out

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VOTE: Alison

I am sorry if I am wrong <3

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if I was scum I would've just hammered Klaus.

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I was suspicious of you already because you were trying to rush an elim of Klaus when his panick'd self-vote feels a lot more like a move that a townie would make rather than a move that scum would make.

if I'm wrong - sorry but you put a lot of pressure on me to make a decision quickly and I am not great at making decisions under pressure.

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I don't think you would twilight troll me so I am sorry for hammering you and being wrong.

I just had a really hard time believing you to be town when you were pushing me to hammer Klaus.

I could just be wrong about Klaus in which case that would be doubly stupid on my part and I would feel twice as bad.

If Klaus/Me/You are all town then the scum team is just Vanya/Lila and the paragons should guess that to make up for my dumb mistake.

Sorry again for being wrong

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If you are really just twilight trolling me as mafia in order to make me feel bad and try to get the paragons to lose on their mafia guess when there's nothing to gain for you I would feel triply sad

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I'm town

I wouldn't feel bad about hammering you if I were scum.

I certainly wouldn't pass up the Klaus Hammer if I were scum

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I'm trying to get a clearing reaction out of you so the paragons don't guess you are scum in case you are town and then I have more chances to win as town.

I am sorry Isis <3

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If I was scum with Lila I would just hammer Klaus there's no point for me to pass that up

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I'm Pooky

there's no need to hide alts now

I am town.

I think Klaus is town also with the way they panick'd as soon as they alt-slipped, I don't think it's a scum reaction to want to self-vote out to prevent a loss via paragon altguess because mafia lose when they get voted out, it doesn't actually matter if the alt-guesses go thru.

If Klaus actually did that as Mafia then um, oops I guess I'm just dumb >.>

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pooky did you try and imitate ?

No I didn't try to imitate anyone in particular because I felt it would be wifomable.

my plan for hiding my identity mostly consisted of:

Only logging in on Internet Explorer to my alt account, my IE doesn't have login info for my main account so no chance of alt slip.
Having my Alt/Main be logged in simultaneously so there would be no pattern created.
Varying my activity so it would not be guessable which time zone I lived in.
Restraining myself from posting.
Going for early hammer intent to limit the time the Paragons got to alt-guess.

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I am an open book and welcome any questions from our paragon saviors to help us salvage this game that we more or less chucked into the river because we were terrified of being alt-guessed.

which I really kind of blame on Hectic coming in here and trolling us about how he was going to alt-guess us >.>

maybe don't scare your victims so much next time guys.

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intent to hammer

klaus was at l1 here you could've just hammered to make sure paragons couldn't alt guess

its a 50 - 50, no takey?

that's why I declared intent - I wanted to cut short their alt-guessing.

However I was scared in the event that I was in the 50% wrong area that the paragons would see the quick-hammer without intent as a scum claim and then guess me as scum, and in that case I would lose the game for the town.

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pooky u are telling me that you wouldn't take the opportunity to be a meme and lol flip the game?

it took so much of my self-restraint to not hammer there lolololol

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I WAS WEAK FORGIVE ME

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Alison isn't Isis?

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I would feel better if Alison wasn't Isis

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what agenda

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if I was scum with Vanya I just hammer Klaus and it looks to the Paragons like Me/Alison are scum taking advantage of Klaus. I have no need to play some elaborate theater to get a different elimination

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this is some intense troll-scumming in the thread rn

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I am as pure and innocent as freshly fallen snow OKA POKA!!

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Five, why'd you vote Allison after she self-voted and gave herself up? Why didn't the logic apply to her?

I didn't trust her because when I presented my towncase for why maruchan self-voting was town++++ she kind of handwaved it and said nah we need to rush the elim.

She only self-voted after Lila voted her and at that point I felt it was more likely as a gambit for town-cred since she had already seen that I hard-townread Maru for the same play.

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Bcos it's fiveklaus and pooky never votes partners I guess

why would Klaus decide to self-vote and scream that we need to rush the elim to prevent the paragon alt-guess if Klaus is scum?

Scum lose if they r d1 elim regardless of the alt-guess.

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like if we r in the world where scum-Klaus accidentally alt-slips, panicks, doesn't realize that him getting elimmed causes a scum loss regardless of alt guess and then starts screaming that he should get elimmed while self voting. that's like an incredible stroke of luck that is very hard to get me to believe happened.

but like it would be absolutely brilliant line of play if scum!klaus predicted our reaction would flow this way and that's like, um

I guess im ok losing to that?

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I didn't self-vote either

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sorry sweetie I am so bad at reading you :<

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oka poka is one of the best obvtowners on the site when it comes to making people believe he is town when he is town

fortunately this superpower only works when he's actually town so go go go if you are town Oka LET YOUR TOWNIE HEART SHINE THRU

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hectic townlock me for sharing good music please

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I am getting scared that lila is town and that makes maruchan scum and then Isis is going to be very annoyed at me postgame

Hectic pls save me and do that thing where you read Oka correctly tyvm

ps I am still town

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mb don't have hectic come in and scare us half to death on page 1 that he's going to guess all our true names and collect our souls?

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wait that wasn't even Hectic

that was you! >.<

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Pooky has focused on finding town way too much for the setup.

That's why I'm townier than him

Fact: I am the towniest townie that ever towned

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RESCUE US FROM EVIL HECTIC ~!

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