Micro 1008: Burdened by Secrecy 2 (Paragon + Town Win)

[Allison Hargreeves]

HOW DO I CHANGE WBESIUTE THEME MY EYES HURT

[Allison Hargreeves]

wait if im town do i want scum to know who i am or not?

[Allison Hargreeves]

wait do i want ther paragons to know who i am? i dont udnerstand shtui

[Allison Hargreeves]

wait the paragons arent fucking town aligned? what t he fuck i feel lied to

[Allison Hargreeves]

Georgebailey, I found you

that means you're my bitch

[Allison Hargreeves]

@mod can you post publicly who even is the original plist?

[Allison Hargreeves]

this is a fucking awesome plist what if we just don't ever end the day and basically hang out forever

[Allison Hargreeves]

wtf did i miss by forgetting i wasin this

[Allison Hargreeves]

wait is there norhting to do if ur not a apragon?
fuck

[Allison Hargreeves]

im not going to lie i was like jesus flea why are you being so obvious sigh this game is doomed bugspray and flea outted themselves in 2 pages

unfortunately this setup is fucked and i have no idea whats going on. the only point of this post is to prodge and then im gonna log out again because i have no clue what my goal is

[Allison Hargreeves]

im not going to lie i was like jesus flea why are you being so obvious sigh this game is doomed bugspray and flea outted themselves in 2 pages

unfortunately this setup is fucked and i have no idea whats going on. the only point of this post is to prodge and then im gonna log out again because i have no clue what my goal is

let me explain: if you don't help us solve and you are town and we mark you as scum because of it, town loses. paragons have to mark both scum correctly.

so it is still important to scumhunt here and help solve the game for paragons.


this kind of post string is not towny tho, its just "aloof" and instead of trying to understand you just log in and post nothing instead of reading whats going on?

but if paragons know who everyone is then town loses anyway and it seems like that's the case. why would i contribute to a game if my wincon is impossible

[Allison Hargreeves]

if you can't play to win then there's no reason to play, kingmaker isn't an interesting position to be in when it's against the rules to bring outside influence to the game

[Allison Hargreeves]

How are you reading Vanya now, Lila? 510 is cool but a lot of that thoughtspew like the stuff on being fearful on identities and being tilted in other games are NAI things that I think can come from either alignment

@Allison/bugspray

, paragons can no longer win by guessing identities. The only way paragons and town win now is by guessing the two remaining scum players. If you're town, you need to show us that and help us figure out who scum is

i will iso mod to confirm this bcs big if true

[Allison Hargreeves]

@mod have the paragons submitted incorrect picks of who they think the alts are?

[Allison Hargreeves]

idk how to explain how im not scum other than explaining how i play as scum and obv dont want ya'll to read me better

[Allison Hargreeves]

pitts is scum

[Allison Hargreeves]

koba just hates me rn because i rushed the lim and it hurts their win condition but i don't know why they can't understand that blitzing the lim had to happen

nuthammering is ++++ev for scum because it means paragons dont get the first guesswin and people have less info for second guesswin.

[Allison Hargreeves]

kalus has solved less than me totally scum ill analuyze flea soontm and basically just do a metaless beatdown even though maybe in theory i shuld be very familiar with faer meta

[Allison Hargreeves]

wait r u saying its five/allison

like if you iso and look at how many ppl she fucking says is it foo/bar we can fucking IM GONNA STATISTICS THIS BITRCH

[Allison Hargreeves]

alternatively, ill pick someone to pick someone to pick who to lim

the very act of picking people should give us some info to work with if it fails but also we should have decent odds to hit it

but not pickx ytourself???
HMHMMMM

[Allison Hargreeves]

Er, I choose Lila?

r u choosing to lim me or for me to pick who to vote

this could be scum!klaus trying to defer to partner
tbh im not entirely sure of klaus but pitss scum is definite

[Allison Hargreeves]

nancy if you fucking put me as scum then its like a 322 buty you dont get anything out of it

[Allison Hargreeves]

klaus thinks its allison/five

vanya you think its klaus/allison ?

shotgunning reads tryinug to get someone, anyone eliminated

[Allison Hargreeves]

im okapoka its fairly obv

with nobody wanting to pick who to kill in the trio (and basically playing hot potato with the pick), i feel like scum would've seized the opportunity to go for a kill or would've been complacent knowing that they couldn't have been picked so basically it led me to the idea that it was five/allison or vanya/klaus and well vanya/klaus were online to yeet five and i did feel like time was a bit pressing since i felt fairly obvious, vanya felt fairly obvious, and allison im pretty sure outted themselves before they even posted

i dont see this logic at all

[Allison Hargreeves]

okay im town because if i was scum i would be trying to appear townie since the hammer because i know i still have to do something to win. the fact i tjhought i lost means that im toiwn

[Allison Hargreeves]

thats a bad argument vanya, using probability is not a reason to towncase yourself i mean when was the last time scum was like yeah let's coinflip

eager lhf

[Allison Hargreeves]

Idk, I don't really see it being George and bugspray and George hard busses launchbait bugspray. I think they probably just lose in that scenario. Makes sense there's a scum controller on the actives

Well bugs basically scumclaimed in their most recent posts. Posting that you have 0 desires to help the paragons solve is a blatant scumclaim.

you fool i had zero desire because i did not understand that we are at a point where town and paragons can win at the same time

[Allison Hargreeves]

Cause bugs isnt actually burnt out as scum i made that up, bugs would probably maybe slightly like scum more

Either way it comes across like bugs thought they had lost 15 pages ago and stopped caring versus didn't care to play scum

vanya town
its lila klaus

[Allison Hargreeves]

im v confident in my scuumgame rn. if i roleld scum i would have downloaded a second browser to sray logged into my secret alt

[Allison Hargreeves]

idk what to say hectic im town ive taken too many risks to be scum and done too many things that help the town win condition, and sure it indirectly helps the scum win condition too but there are better ways to lowkey help the scum win condition. i dont feel like i can win tho because you want to pick me + klaus/allison no matter what so the only thing im trying to do is townspew myself but if you disagree that my actions are protown and think my towntells dont apply this game like i really don't know lol its like a kafka novel

whatever okay bye for real

yes nancy i was allison last game

i literally self limmed last game and town lost and i felt like we partially lost because i self limmed, i actually had the right thread going (and solve) and could push on maruchan but i bought her stupid explanation of why she wasn't responding because it was too funny not too believe. i ended being ic and i felt like i was the best at townspewing and pooky seemed to agree which is why i didn't want to self lim this game because i thought i could just townspew again but apparently not i really don't know

I'm not that opposed to going Klaus + Allison instead. It feels convenient but sometimes the roll is just like that and maybe George distances knowing he has to gambit to win this

This setup is hard

there is no world where a bugspray+georgebailey scumteam is this tactical
we would fucking meme so hard

[Allison Hargreeves]

I unvoted because I’m doubting bugs is scum now. I could see a Lila/Klaus team, which is why he picked Lila to decide. No freaking way does scum!Klaus pick a townie to make that decision.

So it could actually be Lila/Klaus.

So either Klaus is town or he’s scum with Lila.

Because it makes absolutely no sense for Klaus to be scum here with anyone else.

if town!klaus then the team has to be lila vanya but i think vanya spewed town enough to be town and five is flipped and i have my role pm

[Allison Hargreeves]

go take a shower, seriously

[Allison Hargreeves]

What do you mean by this? What was your thought process when you sent this, i suppose more specifically

Allison made like no attempt to hide their tone and pretty much outed. Which resulted in us rushing a shitty elim.

this is literally just lhf and blaming me for something that wasn't my fault. if they elimed me instead of five switch our names and tyhis still makes sense

This post keeps bugging me because it’s so weird for scum!Klaus to make it. .

[Allison Hargreeves]

from your point of view there is a 50% chance im scum and not much is happening so defending me is a little weirdchamp

Yeah except i'm not blindly flipping a coin. I don't want to lose the game on page 6 when a yolo hammer happens from lurking scum.

time is running out, klaus!

why the fuck is this time sensitive

?????

First quote is pressuring Klaus to vote (I really wanted to see if he'd vote whoever it was with me), second is

asking Oka why he needed an answer from Klaus on something like instantly,

i dont really remember

Why does this matter exactly?

can you quote where this happened?

[Allison Hargreeves]

how am i suddenly scum

[Allison Hargreeves]

Blanked.