Micro 1023 - The Coalition: TBotITGBSMoD [game over]

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Post Post #30 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:32 am

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Hey.
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Post Post #35 (isolation #1) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:00 am

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I wish I had more to say right now.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #2) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:03 am

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So what’s the best way to get a winning coalition?
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Post Post #44 (isolation #3) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:06 am

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Hmm.

Is it better for scum to have two people in the coalition or one in and one out? I can see sides of both but depending on what scum are good at as scum it might not mean a lot to talk this out.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #4) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:14 am

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In post 47, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 44, Vulture wrote:Hmm.

Is it better for scum to have two people in the coalition or one in and one out? I can see sides of both but depending on what scum are good at as scum it might not mean a lot to talk this out.
I think they'd both try to get in making it more likely at least one get in. It's an interesting idea that they could patsy one to get the other one in though. I like it.

~ C
I think it depends on whether or not they can both go the distance with townreads. If one flips there is some benefit to the other in there, but keeping up a consistent town persona as the numbers dwindle might be hard.

I do think this setup is slightly... breakable? Leashable...?
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Post Post #56 (isolation #5) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:15 am

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(If the coalition fails. If it doesn’t it doesn’t even matter.)
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Post Post #61 (isolation #6) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:18 am

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I confused mountainous with nightless. :S

My thought was to go scorched earth on the coalition if it fails to avoid any sort of shenanigans.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #7) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:22 am

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I’m not going anywhere with it anymore.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #8) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:51 am

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I find it a nice jumping board to get into things. Usually I just want to post but often don't know what to go with.
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Post Post #107 (isolation #9) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:02 am

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In post 96, Iverson wrote:Implosion's reasoning is horrific.

Vulture is a townlean for me just because I know their main and they come out more aggressive here imo.

Implosion is oldschool and sees scum focus on mech like clockwork and he should be shot on sight.
Huh.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #10) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:04 am

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I don't think thinking someone is 'earnest' is the part of that post that's eyebrow raising, regardless.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #11) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:04 am

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I was mostly just curious if you were correct but I would prefer my privacy.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #12) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:14 am

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What are those thoughts?
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Post Post #159 (isolation #13) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:42 pm

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To be fair, Coalition tends to sound LAMIST-y... all the time.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #14) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:51 pm

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HEAL: GuiltyLion
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Post Post #176 (isolation #15) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:53 pm

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In post 173, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 171, The Coalition wrote:literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability
Ok, let's start over. Let's say GL has never interacted with you, ignoring those posts and looking at what's left, why do you think he's scum?
~C
This is a... strange question.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #16) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:56 pm

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In post 180, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 176, Vulture wrote:
In post 173, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 171, The Coalition wrote:literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability
Ok, let's start over. Let's say GL has never interacted with you, ignoring those posts and looking at what's left, why do you think he's scum?
~C
This is a... strange question.
I'm a strange person.

Why do you call such?
~C
I don't quite know why yet and I'm trying to figure it out.

It feels weird, maybe, to remove the context of interactions from an ISO? It feels like you're trying to maybe play good cop for Coalition when no one's really on their side which... eh. I don't know.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #17) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:01 pm

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HURT: GuiltyLion

Your case feels a little reach-y in a way that doesn't jive with me. Given that you were the topic of conversation I read over your iso and thought it was fine but meh. Might just be early game.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:02 pm

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In post 189, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 183, Vulture wrote:
In post 180, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 176, Vulture wrote:
In post 173, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 171, The Coalition wrote:literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability
Ok, let's start over. Let's say GL has never interacted with you, ignoring those posts and looking at what's left, why do you think he's scum?
~C
This is a... strange question.
I'm a strange person.

Why do you call such?
~C
I don't quite know why yet and I'm trying to figure it out.

It feels weird, maybe, to remove the context of interactions from an ISO? It feels like you're trying to maybe play good cop for Coalition when no one's really on their side which... eh. I don't know.
I'm playing good cop because I see myself in them. I get tunneled, but sometimes the tunnel is right but I can't get taken seriously because omgus. I think GL could be scum, and am legitimately interested in coalition providing a valid point other than "only scum think I'm scum"
Alright. I can't really argue with the self-comparison.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:05 pm

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In post 194, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 191, Vulture wrote:Your case feels a little reach-y in a way that doesn't jive with me. Given that you were the topic of conversation I read over your iso and thought it was fine but meh. Might just be early game.
What is your read on Coalition here?
Mmm. Townlean.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #20) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:07 pm

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The arrogance reflects more on their townplay as of late over scumplay.

p-edit: It is almost certainly.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #21) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:10 pm

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I don't think they're the type to accept an olive branch unless it's on their terms. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but that's the impression they leave on me.

You're better off looking elsewhere for now.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #22) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:11 pm

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Lame.
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Post Post #333 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:09 am

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In post 312, Uncle Shelby wrote:
In post 172, Vulture wrote:HEAL: GuiltyLion
Spicy? Why is it naked though
Eh, at the time I didn’t feel a need to explain it. Only after GL posted some not great things.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #24) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:50 pm

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HEAL: Vulture
HEAL: PookyTheMagicalBear
HEAL: GuiltyLion
HEAL: Art
HEAL: Uncle Shelby

A bit tired to explain this in detail but wanted to give people an idea of where my head's at.

GuiltyLion I keep going back and forth on, but I thought his recent posting was rather good and more of what I expected from his posting, having looked through some old stuff of his. I'm forgiving the lapse I had the other day and hoping it doesn't bite me.

Art might be a controversial pick but looking at the pictures the interpretations I come to from his art I agree with.

Pooky is towny. I don't have a lot to back this up except 'energy' and am aware that this, too, might bite me. But compared to everyone else I feel better about it.

Uncle Shelby's towny as well.

The only scumreads (and even that is eh) that I have are implosion and CheekGamma. Imp admitting to fence sitting openly but it just feels like he's saying that we caught him doing it, trying to damage control. It doesn't feel as natural as I'd want, but having never played with him and only read a few things I find him a hard read regardless. CheekGamma have also felt a little stilted and I've disliked the amount of questioning; it feels like the amount that they are probing, to me, overwrites the amount of things they're really saying. And what they say I shrug at.

Black Ranger and Kobalition are fine. If I had to include one I'd include Kobalition just because they have more stuff to read.

There are my thoughts. Good night.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:05 am

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In post 434, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 408, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:cuz my boy Prism told me Implosion's a scumbag and I can always blame him if the read is wrong.


Also I'm just sticking to townteaming the people I think I have a decent read on and I'm not gonna bother trying to read people I might not be able to read well.
>:/
so you're just reading implosion based on the say-so of your predecessor? That seems like a pretty shitty way to play. If your predecessor is wrong, it allows for no correction of the read because there's no effective way to change the mind of someone who has left the game.
you've netted a demerit to your townpoints, because tbh this feels like how scum!menalque tried to SR me off my predecessor's meta in Pokemon Ruby Mafia
-G
This comes across like a punishment for not townreading implosion more than an effort to get Pooky to think critically.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #26) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:09 am

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You’re welcome to critique things just as I am allowed to critique you.

436 feels like an inappropriate reaction. “Well I guess I shouldn’t talk at all, huh?” Rather than engaging the point.

What’s your read on implosion again, and why?
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Post Post #438 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:10 am

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The reason it feels like a punishment/threat is that you assign it to a points system but don’t quite walk away from your read on Pooky.
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Post Post #519 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:24 pm

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Busy day. Sorry.

I've been thinking about implosion based on the read of Art and not wanting him in the coalition, as well as Art's own feelings now about not wanting to be in the coalition (?). I read a snippet of a post where he made a good point about how Art would feel like an obligation to kill if the coalition fails (though I disagree on principle) and thus making it a bit of an issue to include him. However, as a whole I walked it back some. Unsure.

I feel that [Vulture, Art, GL, Pooky] is a good core of four and we're trying to stick one more person in this. If Art doesn't want to be in it that's more of a headache honestly but, well, I get it. I suppose Uncle Shelby/Black Ranger would work for me but Ranger's posts about the former is interesting.

That's about all for now.
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Post Post #529 (isolation #29) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:53 pm

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In post 526, implosion wrote:Vulture, you called Uncle Shelby towny earlier - why?
There wasn't too much 'good' logic there honestly. I thought they had a sincerity in posting for a while when they were catching up and engaging but then Ranger made a point that made me step back from it to reassess.

Really, though Art doesn't want to be in the coalition I do want him to be because it makes the game easier for me where (Me, Art, GL, Pooky) are all probably town and if it fails we just yeet the fifth. Hopefully though whoever is the fifth is just town though and then easy win.
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Post Post #538 (isolation #30) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:36 am

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HURT: Uncle Shelby

HEAL: The Cheek of Gamma

I want to consolidate since nothing else is happening and I Guess I’m Fine With This.
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Post Post #558 (isolation #31) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:55 am

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GGs.

Glad I came around at the end before I did something dumb and add the two scum I was townleaning into the coalition.

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