Micro 1028: True Love (Game over)

Dunnstral · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:41 am

Yeah I think we should claim. Mafia already know two of the pairs, which makes the last two fairly easy to guess, and not knowing lover pairs could confuse reads if lovers start defending each other

Dunnstral · Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:26 am

We did not coordinate our outfits.

Dunnstral · Post Post #72 (isolation #2) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:08 pm

In post 35, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:right, i'm thinking more of ari's mentions of dunn seem more anti-paired than paired.
i don't exactly have thoughts on ari and wisdom's talk, mostly cause i feel like i'm missing context here. do ari and dunnstral know eachother?

I don't know ari

Dunnstral · Post Post #73 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:09 pm

In post 37, HockeyFan wrote:Hi gamers, sorry for arriving late

I'm not claiming lovers atm since I dont think its beneficial

VOTE: Cows

^ This is scum btw

In post 39, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 38, Wisdom wrote:Why do you think it is not beneficial?
At least not beneficial early game for reasons u said in 33. More time for discussion = better.

How does that give us more time for discussion though

Dunnstral · Post Post #85 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:33 pm

In post 84, bnuuy wrote:i just realized i missed the point of what cowslove is doing entirely

So what are they doing?

Dunnstral · Post Post #102 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:48 pm

In post 80, bnuuy wrote:
In post 74, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 71, HockeyFan wrote:cows can u expand on what u meant in 54
if me and dunn are scum and i continue to rule out dunn pairs then eventually i'll "box myself in" and have only myself as paired with dunn

W
scum cannot be paired as lovers
idr whether that's been the case in the past but in this game thats distinctly impossible

Can you explain this post? Why did you say "scum cannot be paired as lovers"?

Dunnstral · Post Post #131 (isolation #6) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:06 am

In post 116, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 114, bnuuy wrote:
In post 101, Wisdom wrote:Why, does it impede you from scumhunting?
i feel like if its not actually happening then i got conned basically
err, i think i got the most out of it now? i'm lovers with dunn. i think they're fine with me claiming since they did it some 90 posts ago

In post 16, Dunnstral wrote:We did not coordinate our outfits.

In my head post 16 was more obvious that I was claiming than it ended up being

Dunnstral · Post Post #133 (isolation #7) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:09 am

In post 115, bnuuy wrote:
In post 102, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 80, bnuuy wrote:
In post 74, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 71, HockeyFan wrote:cows can u expand on what u meant in 54
if me and dunn are scum and i continue to rule out dunn pairs then eventually i'll "box myself in" and have only myself as paired with dunn

W
scum cannot be paired as lovers
idr whether that's been the case in the past but in this game thats distinctly impossible
Can you explain this post? Why did you say "scum cannot be paired as lovers"?

In post 2, lilith2013 wrote:Lovers are divided into four pairs. Each Mafia Lover is paired with a Town Lover, so there will be two Town/Town lover pairs and two Town/Mafia lover pairs.

ok so to clarify

You realized that Cow and I were a pair?

Dunnstral · Post Post #144 (isolation #8) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:25 am

In post 137, bnuuy wrote:
In post 133, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 115, bnuuy wrote:
In post 102, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 80, bnuuy wrote:
In post 74, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 71, HockeyFan wrote:cows can u expand on what u meant in 54
if me and dunn are scum and i continue to rule out dunn pairs then eventually i'll "box myself in" and have only myself as paired with dunn

W
scum cannot be paired as lovers
idr whether that's been the case in the past but in this game thats distinctly impossible
Can you explain this post? Why did you say "scum cannot be paired as lovers"?

In post 2, lilith2013 wrote:Lovers are divided into four pairs. Each Mafia Lover is paired with a Town Lover, so there will be two Town/Town lover pairs and two Town/Mafia lover pairs.
ok so to clarify

You realized that Cow and I were a pair?
not really
i was deeply confused by what cowslove was doing

Then I don't understand post 80

Dunnstral · Post Post #316 (isolation #9) » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:43 am

In post 199, Aristeia wrote:
In post 193, redtea wrote:Defending her possibly-informed-trust of dunn again.
I just want to say that I don't trust Dunnstral as a "town player" I do not have a townread on Dunnstral.

I trust Dunnstral's mech skill/knowledge - which is completely NAI, I think he would give us the optimal mech play regardless of his alignment.

I mean it's not like I deep dived into the mechanics here

But yes there was no real reason to not claim, and this is coming from somebody who generally likes to not claim stuff early into the game if it's not needed

Dunnstral · Post Post #317 (isolation #10) » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:44 am

In post 315, bnuuy wrote:scum is one hundred percent in the wisdom-redtea and cowslove-dunn pairs

n_m got prodded and has 7 posts

How can you be so sure of this?

Dunnstral · Post Post #318 (isolation #11) » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:46 am

Who are you calling scum between cow and I?

Dunnstral · Post Post #319 (isolation #12) » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:48 am

In post 264, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:dunn gave a full fledged scumcase on ari, i'm sheeping them and determining their alignment from it

maybe NM is churning out some awesome reads in his PT

Dunnstral · Post Post #320 (isolation #13) » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:51 am

In post 289, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:the case doesn't exist

So

I don't understand what the point of that was

Dunnstral · Post Post #322 (isolation #14) » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:38 am

So you made one up?

I don't get how that helps you

Dunnstral · Post Post #329 (isolation #15) » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:15 am

In post 327, bnuuy wrote:though apparently you scumcased aristeia in your pt, can you summarize that?

I did not, cows made that up

Dunnstral · Post Post #330 (isolation #16) » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:16 am

In post 324, Aristeia wrote:if you guys are going to just meme and troll I'm going to stop caring and just NM it.

Who is this at

Dunnstral · Post Post #407 (isolation #17) » Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:34 am

In post 406, Not_Mafia wrote:Why has the Dunn wagon died?

Because my lover partner rescinded their vote and backtracked into a null read

Which... they seem kind of town on town but this has me second guessing
Right now I'm not looking at Hockey because they seem confident in town there

VOTE: bnuuy

Beyond paranoia that is my preferred vote as I think their aggressive sorting doesn't really make sense in places and they don't feel like town to me

Dunnstral · Post Post #445 (isolation #18) » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:56 pm

In post 440, bnuuy wrote:dunnstral tends to be lower activity as scum or pr
there are no prs this game so his limited engagement is scum-indicative imo

This is not true

Dunnstral · Post Post #446 (isolation #19) » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:56 pm

In post 433, bnuuy wrote:i think scum is in dunn and redtea
i wanted to keep this secret but i have prior experience with games involving multiple lover pairs and any time i feel like someone is behaving strangely its generally a portent that their lover partner is scum

What is the connection between me and redtea?

Dunnstral · Post Post #506 (isolation #20) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:59 am

VOTE: redtea

Dunnstral · Post Post #559 (isolation #21) » Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:25 am

In post 551, Wisdom wrote:
In post 506, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: redtea
Explain your redtea vote.
You have zero mentions of redtea in your iso except to ask what is the connection between you and them
Voting them out of the gate in elo is just like in Hockey's case awful (Though Hockey's is worse exactly because Dunn's vote is present tbh)

I believe that your pair is the most likely to have mafia in it

Due to current vote situation that seems mostly locked in for me. It would have to be cows and hockey otherwise, and I don't believe that to be the case.

Dunnstral · Post Post #564 (isolation #22) » Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:54 am

In post 560, Wisdom wrote:And who is redtea's buddy?
Say they flip red, who would you want to lim tomorrow?

Probably NM

Dunnstral · Post Post #573 (isolation #23) » Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:46 am

There's 6 votes in play, why would only 4 people be voting at deadline?

Dunnstral · Post Post #574 (isolation #24) » Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:48 am

In post 571, redtea wrote:I was giving dunn a chance at that time

Yuck

Dunnstral · Post Post #576 (isolation #25) » Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:51 am

In post 569, Wisdom wrote:
In post 568, Wisdom wrote:Dunn/NM, Dunn/Hockey are real possibilities here, with the latter being the most likely given individual scumminess
Like if I go solely with my reads I still think you and redtea are town and scum have to be in the other three

Why is redtea town?

Dunnstral · Post Post #577 (isolation #26) » Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:52 am

In post 575, Wisdom wrote:Therefore a 2-2 tie is plausible

I don't agree that this is something reasonable to expect

Dunnstral · Post Post #578 (isolation #27) » Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:00 am

In post 572, redtea wrote:"ill engage more l8r" i said

but I will vote Dunn for now, in case someone convinced cows to change his mind before I have
VOTE: Dunnstral

If we make it to tomorrow Ill miss cows tho

Who is my partner?

Dunnstral · Post Post #592 (isolation #28) » Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:51 pm

In post 578, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 572, redtea wrote:"ill engage more l8r" i said

but I will vote Dunn for now, in case someone convinced cows to change his mind before I have
VOTE: Dunnstral

If we make it to tomorrow Ill miss cows tho
Who is my partner?

Dunnstral · Post Post #613 (isolation #29) » Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:39 pm

Well, it's not me + redtea

Dunnstral · Post Post #614 (isolation #30) » Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:40 pm

Which really should mean it's just redtea + nm

Dunnstral · Post Post #615 (isolation #31) » Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:41 pm

Though Wisdom is giga tunneled on me for some reason even though me + nm doesn't really make sense

Dunnstral · Post Post #616 (isolation #32) » Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:42 pm

oh, he thinks it is hockey self voting

Dunnstral · Post Post #618 (isolation #33) » Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:57 pm

and it's not cows/nm either

Dunnstral · Post Post #630 (isolation #34) » Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:10 pm

In post 628, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:i'm gonna drop this and refuse to elaborate until tomorrow

green = fine pairs
yellow = probably not pairs
orange = likely not pairs
red = i think there's no chance
grey = lovers

If I were scum with redtea we'd quick elim n_m and win here, yeah?

Dunnstral · Post Post #631 (isolation #35) » Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:12 pm

In post 613, Dunnstral wrote:Well, it's not me + redtea

In post 614, Dunnstral wrote:Which really should mean it's just redtea + nm

In post 618, Dunnstral wrote:and it's not cows/nm either

That's why I wrote this

Also, why have you colored boxes for pairs including yourself?

Dunnstral · Post Post #659 (isolation #36) » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:13 pm

Wisdom have you noticed that redtea has indicated that I'm scum but is unable to really come up with who my partner is?

And at the same time they don't seem to think you can be scum at all even though they don't have two scumreads locked in?

Their view of the game isn't adding up

Dunnstral · Post Post #660 (isolation #37) » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:15 pm

What is going on in your pt? Or what was going on, at least

Dunnstral · Post Post #662 (isolation #38) » Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:22 am

I'm voting for somebody who is scum from my point of view though. Like you pointed out above.

I did not want to move my move around in limlo without talking things through first.

At this point, I don't think anybody else is considering cows, and I don't think cows/wisdom or cows/hockey are particularly likely pairings. Wisdom switched vote to the nm pairing, and Hockey is voting own pairing meaning it's likely just redtea scum with not mafia

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Dunnstral · Post Post #683 (isolation #39) » Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:36 am

In post 676, redtea wrote:cows hockey wisdom get on the train pls choo choo

Who do you scumread besides me?

Dunnstral · Post Post #694 (isolation #40) » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:18 pm

In post 689, redtea wrote:
In post 683, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 676, redtea wrote:cows hockey wisdom get on the train pls choo choo
Who do you scumread besides me?
it would not be helpful for me to entertain this today.

It would though

Dunnstral · Post Post #704 (isolation #41) » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:39 pm

In post 698, HockeyFan wrote:so could it be wisdom/redtea?

No because they're lovers

Dunnstral · Post Post #705 (isolation #42) » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:40 pm

don't waste your time looking for pairings there

Dunnstral · Post Post #711 (isolation #43) » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:48 pm

In post 710, HockeyFan wrote:cows/N_M kek

Actually ruled out because they could have hammered redtea

Dunnstral · Post Post #718 (isolation #44) » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:59 pm

In post 714, redtea wrote:the further right, the more low-key and bare-bones the strategy. Yet, it's effective all the same.
Like. Clearly.

What is the strategy being employed between Hockey and myself?