I wanted FB or Alice yesterday. The only person whose actual stance on Alice was nonpartnery was W/J who actively pushed them and they are dead. Holden's stance was way grosser (having Alice in PoE but only voting and pushing me and FB when it was okay to do so), don't think mollie even voted. Flea's was whatever.In post 1105, NorwegianboyEE wrote:IV was last on the Alice wagon and seemed only to want in for the cred when Alice was pretty much doomed. T3 joined much earlier and without making a big fuss.
I get that T3 likes to buss and i'm also paranoid of that at times, but this doesn't read as typical T3 distancing.
Yes this is me throwing shade at holden slot. again I was sus of your slot but your rep in made it seem a bit townier somehow. If you are scum you are doing a great job of emulating your town meta and analyzing the gamestate/predicting how id react to your push on me but i don't rly think it's in ur wheelhouse.
In post 1107, NorwegianboyEE wrote:His self-voting shenanigans in the middle of day 1 was really awful and reeked of scum performance.
You've seen me do this in both Mini Normal 2207 (town) and Micro 9:12 (scum). You weren't there either but Koba was being really fucking annoying and everyone there can attest to that. This is not alignment indicative. I get tilted and selfvote myself (briefly) a decent amount.In post 1109, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Their reaction to Koba's push was scummier than Molly.
Where Molly tried to fight Dkkoba hard and seemed to believe what they were saying, IV pulled out the AtE and begged for Koba to stop harassing him. It was an scummy response.
In post 1110, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This is literally IV's hammer.In post 762, innocentvillager wrote:VOTE: AliceK fuck itIn post 758, Wright and Justice wrote:holden come hammer
Alice was deader than dead at this point. IV rushed in for the cred.
My hammer is NAI. There's no universe where my hammer should look scummier than if I didn't hammer. I was totally fine with killing Alice all game.In post 1111, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Scummy A F hammer.
Okay you've played with me enough to know that's not a scumtell from me at all?In post 1112, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This was their posts prior. Seems awfully noncommital.In post 666, innocentvillager wrote:im down to compromise on Alice later.
In post 1113, NorwegianboyEE wrote:In the next day IV tried to push hard for town to think Facebones was an likely Alice partner.In post 767, innocentvillager wrote:god if it's really just as easy as Alice/Facebone snoreIn post 730, Facebones wrote:In post 697, Andresvmb wrote:IV is pushed to the brink, reveals who their Neighbor is, and then all of a sudden you back away (despite the detailed, rather compelling case from GH I might add that you never up to that point actually went back over, and after you confidently declare them Scum based on meta and their self-sabotage) to push on a slot that could clearly reveal who the last Neighbor potentially is (and since you’ve already revealed who your Neighbor is in piratemollie, there’s really not that many choices left).Thank you for bringing that up. It is sorta strange how quickly everything disipated after IV revealed his hood with me. The wagon which grew and suddenly disappeared on IV consisted of WJ, T3 and GoldenHolden, right?In post 698, Andresvmb wrote:Now I’m going to go finish reading, so maybe I’ll change my mind. And yeah, I can’t say that I think Holden is Scummy individually actually. They have a straightforward way of looking at the game and again, seem mighty competent. But it’s miraculous that IV got so close to the brink, revealed who their Neighbor was, and all of a sudden the votes there disappear as does the case. I need to read through the progression obviously, but I’m intrigued. This game is a very interesting read actually. I have a feeling the Scum Team is playing at a high level.
And now T3 is voting Alice due to POE and agreeing with WJ's read?
It seems a bit sheepy and I'm not sure what to make of it.
Do you think it's possible that IV is scum here?
If IV was town, would scum let them off the hook so quickly after getting them to turn suicidal and being one vote away from hammer?
You might've been asked before, I dunno- what do you think about IV claiming to be in a hood with you? Do you think he was trying to fish for the FN?
this is almost too over the top in terms of desperately trying to frame away from partner and onto me after the mollie/koba TvT disintegrated
like either scum are big braining this or it's Alice/Facebone
Okay you missed like every other post I had that expressed serious doubt about that solve both pre and post d1 flip.
?? this was me putting doubt on the wrong solve how is that scummy?In post 1115, NorwegianboyEE wrote:He was already setting up as evident here.In post 774, innocentvillager wrote:facebones posted more analysis in our hood and it's starting to concern me that the solve isn't facebones/alice i think he might just give up if he's scum with Alice here
you came in on the premise that I am scum and have tried to fit all my actions in my hypothetical scum agenda. that's called a narrative argument and that's why it's bad.In post 1116, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The entire game IV has been playing like a scum.
what exactly is awkward? I wanted facebones and alice, preferred FB slightly because of him being in my hood, posting, but being pretty null overall. alice was just a pure lurker slot. I was fine with both and I hammered Alice when it came down to it. There's nothing awkward hereIn post 1117, NorwegianboyEE wrote:And combine that with awkward Alice treatment during their wagon. And we got the last mafia on the ropes.
In post 1121, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't think IV wanted to buss their partner though. It just so happened that their partner got to E-1 and he had to salvage the situation.
okay there's no accusation here really but if this is true (me not wanting to endgame as scum here) wouldn't i have tried way harder to defend alice or push them or do something else? or maybe not but like why are my actions around alice likely to come from scum rather than town. i don't get it.In post 1122, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I doubt even IV thinks he can easily endgame alone in a playerlist with so many powerful players.
okay but neither did you or mollie at all and i don't remember flea having the best progression on Alice either but i could be wrong.In post 1123, NorwegianboyEE wrote:He never voted Alice prior to that vote.
We were less than 24 hours and there was nothing else to do. Holden like posted a wall every 24 hours and it wasn't clear when they were coming back or whether they would hammer at all. Again nothing indicative here.In post 1124, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also consider the fact that Holden probably would hammer Alice considering the state of his reads before IV stole the hammer.
Do people really think scum!Alice and scum!me would collectively scumclaim in hoods at the start of the game for no fucking reason other than to look super coincidentally aligned?? for absolutely no purpose at all but just purely looking bad? i do it on my own for the lulz sometimes. there's no reason for us both to be the only ones doing it in the hoods at the start of the game making it look extra coordinated. this is a really shallow reason to believe we were aligned but for some reason a bunch of townies bought this reason so ur not the only one i guess nor.In post 1125, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yeah, or maybe an scum IV tells Scum Alice what IV is doing in their own hood.In post 756, Wright and Justice wrote:It's possible that a scum facebones tells scum alice about what IV did in their hood
Facebones flipped town so yeah....
Andres died on night 1 because he was CONFIRMED TOWNIn post 1126, NorwegianboyEE wrote:How convenient Andres died on night 1.In post 744, Andresvmb wrote:This is why I’m arguing that if AliceK flips Scum, then IV should get executed.