Micro 1039: The Coalition [game over!]

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Hi, just got home after a five-hour flight and not in the mood to start thinking about Mafia yet, just posting so you know I'm here.

oh, i haven't seen you in a while

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VOTE: esther
31 seems faked, esther doesn't consider that enchant's vote could be rvs and such

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yes, it is kinda forced ("fake"? eh). im trying to hard read enchant off these early game posts because, we might not really get that much else. enchant's vote clearly isnt rvs though.

true, true.

tbh almost all of your posts feel like you're drawing water from a stone

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happy new year except in some far off timezone maybe

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HEAL: Galton

Strong gutread from #6.

HEAL: Esther

I saw what others saw with Esther''s seemingly "forced" tone/style, but their immediately copping to it being forced with zero self-consciousness makes that a lot better for me. Take it away and what's left is some good, fairly thoughtful early reads.

I agree with your point about esther.
HEAL: esther, t3, enchant
I also like the tone of post 48, but I've seen scum Enchant make posts like that before. i do get where he comes from when voting esther and it seems genuine so i'll cautiously heal him.

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hello insomnia my old friend
i forgot to take melatoninf again

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I genuinely keep forgetting about this game, umm I don't think I see enough to be confident in any one person being town, so it's weird seeing all the coalition lists, like 5 people have names they're confident are town? feels suspicious to me, so that does make me tr ProHawk and MBot a bit, not enough for me to put them on my list yet, but so far. yes!

forgetting about the game is a weak towntell

unless you're me and you completely disengage with every game halfway through day 1

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Been busy but not a lot of conversation to catch up on yet. Prod dodge mostly but I can take the heat. Hey Andante and Prohawk wanna coalition together? The very definition of the word - a temporary alliance of sorts, since it's obviously everyone randomly joining up based on random nothings. That's actually kind of concerning since there is zero actual conversations to have even gut reads. We still have 13 days left. Even those I know, I'm squinty eyed at until given a reason not to be. Would be kool to finally have a win, just saiyan.

ahhh this is so scum

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just pocketing andante and prohawk

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i disagree with nearly everything esther is saying, but she seems to be genuinely trying to scumhunt

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I don't think we're going to get a coalition of 5 town because I usually draw associatives by who's willing to elim who - scum could be aiming for a...[pause: I just realized I may be playing this the wrong way] There's literally no long game if they don't get someone in the coalition (or stall the coalition past deadline).

I have never played a game of this design, or any similar so I can only go off of what I *think* scum would ideally do in this scenario, and I am heavily leaning towards them being more apt to coalition one of their own more so than try to distance them D1 because well if they don't get themselves or a partner in then they auto-lose. Ideal would likely be both in I think, but again haven't really run all of the scenarios properly yet at this time.

But yes, odds of a complete town block I think are fairly low.

I've seen games with this setup 3 times, each time town has won on day 1 and scum has completely collapsed.
I suppose this setup somehow makes town bloc very hard? Which I guess makes sense.

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I was Hakai in that game.

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same here
but i was trying out a vastly different playstyle

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galron was wayyyy subdued as town when i played with him, it doesnt really ping to me.

"looks like the sort of iso that could get day 1 miselimmed" might have been a better phrasing. im, idk, drawing analogy to an archetype, i guess; not practically worrying she's the yeet (like, if we eliminate within the coalition, she's almost certainly not). i get that's a pretty fuzzy and subjective (and perhaps even unreliable!) read, but the questions are relevant, i might feel comfortable calling it in slightly less hazy terms if she comes back to answer.

Is there anyone here who doesn't think Looker is town?

if the point is that looker should self-heal, yes, i agree

I played with MBOT in a newbie game, and she had considerably more content and was less LHF.

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MBot is still scum. I have nothing else to contribute.

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I do apologize for not making many posts and forgetting about the game. I'm still getting used to remembering this sites posting requirements when life gets busy. Coalition lists have me shaking my head because most were made too early to have actual reads on players. I'm probably the most newb player in this game and I get that FOSing creates dialog that leads to better reads but I'm not grasping the benefit of loading up a coalition at this point.

Adante - I’m liking these posts for FOSing the quick heals. in 54
I saw the heals for enchant and prohawk as just random heals but 145 set the scene for a bit of a whiplash. Why choose Prohawk with so little to go on?

Enchant - Thoughtful posts but that is also a lower read in my book because of it being so thought out and careful. Esther seems to be pocketing them which is sketchy.

Umlaut - I don't get any vibes from him that could be scummy. Complete nul at this point. Props from engaging and actually starting dialog though.

Prohawk - Worse than I am on posting and I call BS. I don't buy this “too inebriated to post” nonsense. Maybe its just being retaliatory from 73 but the previous T3 - Superficial posts and grasping at straws. In response to 80 and 81 I was going for those who were not pulling the trigger too soon on alliances. Feels like trolling to me but why?

Galron - Complete gut read from pocketing Looker and his ISO up to this point looks too superficial. I understand how ironic that is but give more reasons before you pressure others towards a coalition.

T3 - Trying to not be retaliatory and give you BoD but.. What did I ever do to you?! Don't pick on me for one single newb game. I almost want to say that I think T3 and Esther are scum buddies from the distancing from 90. Nothing to contribute towards the FOS because I haven't posted but yea, well go with it. So scummy.

Mc esther - Many hunches, 28 “I dont know why Looker is town” and sheeping along and then pushing me to join a coalition? Seems to be adding people randomly without any actual stated reasons. I like the suspicion of “maybe scum” on me in 83 because it was actually the first post that made sense. I see lurkers as scummy, myself. I used to think that there was always at least one lurker scum and one loud mouth but recent games have tossed that out the window.

Looker - 113 had be scratching my head. Yes, I've been superficial and cards to chest but that's my normal meta. I wait to have actual gut reads to share anything with the class. The one single game I played on this site was with them and it shows that exact play style. I always catch shit for it but I’d rather not get trapped in a FOS match with mafia without having any reads to respond with. Can it be seen as lazy? Absolutely. But not AI.. which, as I've said, never had the opportunity to be scum. In my defense-ish, I'd probably play the best town game of my life if given the chance. Take that as you will. My win/loose ratio has been crap and I'd like to change that. Goals to make more actual posts at least every other day. Mobile posting is frustrating.

this seems kinda superficial?

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no read on galron yet

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i really don't think self heaing is a scummy behavior.

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slef healing is always pro-your alignment, unless you're trying to confuse town about that?
i think.
i definitely like how prohawk is pushing this angle, it seems misguided but town.

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HEAL: prohawk
i just don't think scum does this
HURT: enchant]

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VOTE: mbot
oh that right okay

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andante's posts are kinda flat.

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HURT: everyone
HEAL: esther, looker, enchant, umlaut, prohawk
this is where i'm at.

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HURT: enchant
HEAL: t4
i don't see the trs on galron but i'm not too opposed to coalitioning him.

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ooooh confident enough to put coalitions 1 away from being hammered... but not leave it there? suspicious

SHES SCARED

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this is a good coalition

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NICE
i actually had correctish reads at the very end