Micro 1043: League of Legends UPick - Game Over!

[.Lux.]

what if i did something sick and twisted? right now? would everyone be mad at me?

[.Lux.]

whether or not a Mafioso would rely on this as WIFOM is up in the air, but a post offering a solve like that is going to surely draw attention that i don't think a Mafioso would want to make.

everyone recognizes how unnatural it is to make a page 2 solve. yes we have minimal information. these things are obvious but figuring out why a Mafioso would want to make a page two solve and garner that much attention is something people would benefit from.

[.Lux.]

why do you not like it? in an early game state what do you think 'strange' is and what would my motivation to do it be as mafia? what would my motivation be to announce it?

i decided not to do something strange, because it's not beneficial; it was a whimsical idea that passed my mind to... speed things up, but it felt very unfair, because doing something like that on my whims is not fair to everyone else. i've decided that my

strange ability

is best used in other ways.

~

warwick is... probably town? there's a lot of hedging there, but when it doesn't hedge it leans negative, and there's a lot of room to do anything. i think scum would be less overt about having open options on most people. and i think scrounging for a reason to have these reads early is good.

still thinking through jarvan's slot. his actions felt very high-horsey, as in, i am doing this for the town, and let me spell it out for you all so you can see what i am doing and how and my motivations, and i don't know if that's more likely to be some strange condescending scum lamist-riddled move or just condescending town. i don't like that sort of attitude regardless so i'm not thinking too hard on it for now. still doesn't stop me from liking amumu for the things he said regarding jarvan.

everyone else. well. honestly i haven't had too many strong thoughts otherwise. i liked ashe a bit. lulu is enthusiastic but that's more in line with the character than an alignmnt thing so.

yep. that's me.

[.Lux.]

lasers when needed, but not needed now.

[.Lux.]

it's a bit much for Mafioso Elise to attack someone as a demonstration, and then say here, let me do it again. as an act of hostility after falling into a slot. and

then

saying they will continue to do it. unless elise is partnered with jarvan and they're trying to soak up resources or something but even then, that seems ill-advised.

for now i have an easier time believing elise is a bit miffed about things and is going to go in on jarvan regardless of alignment, but doing so as Town.

i've thought a bit about warwick more, and in that i've wondered if i was assuming... too much of warwick's capacity as Mafioso? in that, i wonder if i'm simply assuming warwick doesn't know what pitfalls to avoid as scum. it feels like a copout to point a finger there but i'm lacking places to point them right now.

if i'm going off of "gut" it's jarvan taking advantage of some room with a larger HP pool early on to invite attacks, poking around with mechanics that scum benefit from knowing and understanding. maybe lulu but that is... definitely my gut getting more eh with the gimmick, and the protection of jarvan. which i guess, maybe i should call this a scumread but i don't have a lot of meat behind it beyond "don't like posting style/attitude" and the aforementioned point. also hey, if i'm right that warwick just stumbled into a basic scummy behavior (the hedging), not attacking jarvan makes a bit more sense. just a bit. this is a conspiracy theory that i'm not putting a lot of weight into but i am putting a lot of words into because it's the closest thing i can flesh out that feels worth fleshing.

amumu and caitlyn probably need more pushing and prodding too. in general i don't have a strong set of feelings about this game yet.

attack: jarvan

if nothing else, as a demonstration of my attack.

[.Lux.]

lulu's exuberance dissuades attacks, i think, regardless of alignment.

the other three of us, we've been... mellow? amumu absent more than mellow but gragas and i are chilling.

i don't know if it leans one way or another when people are doing things that warrant attacking/asking for it.

(this is a long-winded way of saying: i don't think it skews them one way or another.)

[.Lux.]

Praise be.

I am a new player; first game .Ashe.. Heard she was getting buffed and wanted to learn her. Please give me some time (~24 hours) to grasp the mechanics.

I do not have much to go off of, but from the first page I believe

Caitlyn

and

Elise

to be allies.

I weakly suspect

Warwick

is an enemy, but if so, I cannot determine who, if any, of

Amumu

,

Gragas

, or

Lulu

would be partners from there.

The second page adds

Gragas

suspicion, and makes me lean

Lulu

as well.

However, there is a decent chance

Caitlyn

is right in their

Gragas

/

Amumu

callout (with

Lulu

as the third) if I am mistaken on my

Warwick

impression.

I believe

Lux

and

Jarvan IV

(Jarvan > Lux; both entrances looked positive but Jarvan's more so) to be allies, but not as much as

Caitlyn

is; they are similar to my

Elise

read in strength.

The third page does not impact those reads, although it does chance my stance slightly;
I see {

Lulu

,

Gragas

}, {

Lulu

,

Warwick

}, {

Amumu

,

Gragas

}, and {

Amumu

,

Warwick

}, so I lean towards

Gragas

+

Warwick

+ 1/2 of {

Lulu

,

Amumu

}.

The fourth page, 96 aligns with my own thoughts in an ally-indicative way; I feel

Elise

's aggression on

Jarvan

shows a town alignment even if I feel the push to be ill-advised.

Lux, lulu, gragas, amumu
None have been hit.
Do we think that increases scum odds or are these slots townread

The only of those I do not wish to attack is

Lux

.

tl;dr:

Caitlyn

strong

town;

Lux

,

Elise

town;

Jarvan IV

lean town;
3/4 {

Warwick

,

Gragas

,

Amumu

,

Lulu

} scum; lean towards

Gragas

+

Warwick

.

Attack: Warwick

what's the dissonance between your jarvan read (his entrance stronger than mine) and i being a higher townread about? you've not made comment about either of us (at least, in this post) that shows what would tip the scales.

[.Lux.]

i'm struggling to get a read on things, or rather, a scumread. i'm weakly inclined to think that ashe's reads are worth sheeping though. if nothing else it pointed me to look at caitlyn's iso to see what was deserving of strong town and i don't agree with strong town, but i agree with town.

[.Lux.]

light binding: warwick, gragas

attack: gragas

tenderizing via demonstration.

[.Lux.]

it feels more like lulu is roleplaying which is bleeding a bit much into the gameplay as a whole. i understand that this is an... unusual game but it's beginning to wear against some people and it's making it a lot harder than it should be to read things.

otoh it also feels like a sudden tide shift where everyone's putting up with it but then people see the cracks and then push against it because they can and it's opportunistic, in this world lulu is town but... eh.

dunno. the format intrinsically makes this game a lot harder than i thought (not to complain; it's fun).

[.Lux.]

the violence is beginning.

attack: lulu

just for the pressure here. better to pin down whimsy a bit and make it logical.

[.Lux.]

cast: final spark

i’d recommend that the people going back and forth on this page cool it for a little bit. let the quiet ones speak.

[.Lux.]

oh, well, you'll take some damage if you post on the next page.

i wanted to break up the back and forth a bit and let people recollect themselves, and i wanted the quieter people to speak up. and lose health. because i feel there's a lot of pressure going on back and forth and if it's a tunnel, well... they're both lower so they might be wary of spamming and making only themselves weaker. if that makes sense.

[.Lux.]

have to be willing to lose HP to talk beyond just an attack, which in theory you can avoid if no one attacks you. this is intentionally, "what am i saying is it worth this?" also worth seeing who posts what while not quite knowing what my ability does. it's something.

i'm also exceptionally burned out, sorry.

[.Lux.]

i don’t know if it will still cast or not but the damage happens after the conclusion of the page that it’s active which hasn’t yet...

[.Lux.]

going to assume that ashe and caitlyn and lulu weren’t doing a weird bus tango.

lulu’s attack on amumu stands out as looking manufactured a bit after the fact.

[.Lux.]

why?

[.Lux.]

eh, amumu did keep attacking her.

[.Lux.]

attack warwick

[.Lux.]

i was admittedly thinking lulu could be town despite my previously given concerns, so yes, i was trying to break up the back and forth. but i don’t think that my ult saves her — if anything were we partnered, it’s...

everyone else *but her* could post and not be concerned, given everyone else was pretty healthy.

i’ll be honest now that my ult does 20 damage.

so by casting it, and she would know my abilities as we are teamed, it is me saying “well good luck” while also hoping that no one else would... take the thunder of a kill, you know?

(because in that situation i would only be ulting to bus, but... i’m not even taking the credit for it. i’m just throwing something out there.)

[.Lux.]

simply don’t post.

[.Lux.]

attack warwick

bonk.

[.Lux.]

prismatic bind: warwick, gragas

attack: gragas

autopilot.

[.Lux.]

this game is ... sluggish but i don't see how to make it not-sluggish given half of us are just sitting here.

amumu's solve is just sort of hand wave. sure. yes. sure.

[.Lux.]

surprised at being someone’s strongest town and i don’t know if it’s in a good way or bad way. in some regards it feels like i am lackadaisical now and being set up to not be killed until the end, but, paranoia.

attack amumu

[.Lux.]

attack amumu

[.Lux.]

bind: jarvan, warwick

attack: warwick

[.Lux.]

bind: jarvan, warwick

attack: warwick

Why?

have to bind two.

i don't want to bind anyone else.