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Tbh I actually liked Caitlyn's naked shot at Warwick. I am assuming at that point she entered scum would rather take a shot elsewhere or try to fit in and do nothing harmful. Ganging up on a target with the only other attack doesn't strike me as the way to enter as scum imo, especially as low hp champion. The latter is also partly a reason I am rather suspicious of a call to attack her.-
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Jarvan's takes on the abilities isn't that helpful as just the abilities for themselves are nai. In fact the only ability that caught my interest so far is Lulu casting faer heal/strengthening spell on Warwick, which strikes me as an unusual opening unless it was just on a whim.
I don't think there is ill intent behind Jarvan using his attack with bonus damage on Elise. His curiosity in the mechanics strikes me as genuine and it's not like his attack put Elise in a damning position.-
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B..Bu..But I am so shy! Can I?In post 56, .Gragas. wrote: Literally I'm the only person who straight up asked for people to attack her,
next time you can just say my name.
This part is a valid point of view, but I still do feel like it's still suspicious of her to do, and certainly not something to townread her for. People wave away early game happenings too easily.
I mean yes, I meant you mainly, however I am also looking at those who are also on Caitlyn's trail like Amumu and maybe Warwick(?). I feel one of you three may be evil.
I agree that early happening shouldn't be waved away, but why is early "wagoning" like that scummy? She even followed up on it, even if her solve was mostly omgus. Taking the analogy of normal voting I think early bandwagoning generally comes equally from both sides and the context of this game is slightly different as was the way this game went from the beginning. Do you think Caitlyn misread the room when she entered the game like that?
...you think?In post 56, .Gragas. wrote: Agreed, I think..?-
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Praise be.
I am a new player; first game .Ashe.. Heard she was getting buffed and wanted to learn her. Please give me some time (~24 hours) to grasp the mechanics.
I do not have much to go off of, but from the first page I believeCaitlynandEliseto be allies.
I weakly suspectWarwickis an enemy, but if so, I cannot determine who, if any, ofAmumu,Gragas, orLuluwould be partners from there.
The second page addsGragassuspicion, and makes me leanLuluas well.
However, there is a decent chanceCaitlynis right in theirGragas/Amumucallout (withLuluas the third) if I am mistaken on myWarwickimpression.
I believeLuxandJarvan IV(Jarvan > Lux; both entrances looked positive but Jarvan's more so) to be allies, but not as much asCaitlynis; they are similar to myEliseread in strength.
The third page does not impact those reads, although it does chance my stance slightly;
I see {Lulu,Gragas}, {Lulu,Warwick}, {Amumu,Gragas}, and {Amumu,Warwick}, so I lean towardsGragas+Warwick+ 1/2 of {Lulu,Amumu}.
The fourth page, 96 aligns with my own thoughts in an ally-indicative way; I feelElise's aggression onJarvanshows a town alignment even if I feel the push to be ill-advised.
The only of those I do not wish to attack isIn post 106, .Caitlyn. wrote:Lux, lulu, gragas, amumu
None have been hit.
Do we think that increases scum odds or are these slots townreadLux.
tl;dr:
Caitlynstrongtown;
Lux,Elisetown;
Jarvan IVlean town;
3/4 {Warwick,Gragas,Amumu,Lulu} scum; lean towardsGragas+Warwick.
Attack: Warwick-
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In post 126, .Warwick. wrote:You don't really explain why you are attacking me. Could you elaborate on your read of me?
^This.In post 134, .Elise. wrote:I think it's because of your manner of posting.
You missed a spot. You were the author of 96. That was what strengthened my read on you to surpassIn post 130, .Lux. wrote:what's the dissonance between your jarvan read (his entrance stronger than mine) and i being a higher townread about? you've not made comment about either of us (at least, in this post) that shows what would tip the scales.
Jarvan IV.
The attack onIn post 129, .Gragas. wrote:What?? Caitlyn did a naked attackonlyon page one, how does that make you believe shes more likely to be an ally? That seems like a bit much.Warwicklooked good to me.
These vibes were strengthened byCaitlyn's later posting.
The attack on
Caitlyn; 30 was forced in a "trying to hard to be town" way (I believe the accepted term for this is 'LAMIST'); 37 is further forcing with the LAMIST as well as pushing hard in a way that is unnatural.-
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Nothing tunneling in attacking a player who has shown every characteristic of being an enemy including opportunistic attacks againstIn post 168, .Gragas. wrote:I also love tunneling.Caitlyn.
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Every postIn post 186, .Amumu. wrote:i still do not see how you can find caitlyn to be towny, let alone so stronglyCaitlynmakes bleeds a town alignment. 12 was a good attack to make on page one; there is an absolute zero percent chance of a scum player making the callout in 26; 27 has logic I largely agree with; substituting myself withLulu, I genuinely would sheep 28 as my own reads mirrorCaitlyn's at that point;Caitlyn's target focus has been on-point.
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Idiocy may not be an indicator of mafia, but it is a liability.In post 188, .Elise. wrote:I dislike how fast everyone just piled up on .Lulu. Idiocy is not mafia perk.
I actually would prefer to eliminateGragasoverLulu.
However, ifLulucontinues to attackCaitlynwho is now genuinely at half health and in danger of being focused down by burst damage, thenLulucan die in place ofGragasfor the chainsaw defense of scum.-
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Yup!In post 258, .Caitlyn. wrote:Okay so I'm spewed town now right
As long asCaitlynand I are alive, theoretically, we should be able to win any 2v2 fight so the game should be won for the town almost no matter what, but especially if I am correct that the remaining two scum are among {Gragas,Warwick,Amumu}.
Even in the worst-case scenario where all would be town, that would place us in a 3v2 which is very good for the town given 2/3 as hard-spewed town.
Say today we eliminateWarwick.
If he is scum, then we have 6/7 players as town and we are positioned for a win.
If he is town, then we have 5/7 players as town.
Say we then eliminateGragas.
If he is scum, then ifWarwickwas scum we win; ifWarwickwas town, we have 5/6 players as town.
If he is town, then ifWarwickwas scum we have 5/6 players as town; ifWarwickwas town, we have 4/6 players as town.
Say we then eliminateAmumu.
If he is scum, then if eitherGragasorWarwickwere scum, we win; if both were town, we have 4/5 players as town.
If he is town, then if eitherGragasorWarwickwere scum, we have 4/5 players as town; if neither were scum, we go down to 3/5 players as town.
Given I would be one of those players andCaitlynwould be another, we would, with the three townflips on my main three suspects, be able to reassess and figure out the remaining two mafia inLux,Jarvan, andElise.
However, I believeat leastone of {Gragas,Warwick,Amumu} should flip scum, if not two.
The order does not matter much but I believe all three should be our next three eliminations.
Attack: Warwick
This seems to be the overall favored next elimination.-
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This is very unfavorable to both of them imo.
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I said that theoretically based on my abilities and her abilities, weIn post 273, .Elise. wrote:.Ashe., mafia wins on parity.could.
Not that the mod would allow it, or that weshould.
I intend to win the game before then.
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I have three players, you among them, that I believe to contain both remaining scum.In post 276, .Warwick. wrote:Ashe, I do not understand why you are attacking me.
All three should die in a row.
The order does not matter, butoneof them needs to be first.
I went for you as you seemed to be the player that there was the most support for getting out first.
However, I am receptive to the other two options, such as this:
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I should note: the reason I went forIn post 289, .Caitlyn. wrote:I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility for scum to defend each otherLuluat all is her chainsaw-defense ofGragas.
WhileCaitlynand I were attackingGragas,Luluwent out of her way to helpGragasand attack both of us, but mainly the lower-healthCaitlyn.
It is obviously possible thatLuluwas defending town.
However, the partner equityisthere.
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We can take our time to give more time to discuss the worst case scenario of 2 scum in {In post 314, .Caitlyn. wrote:Wait — take our time pleaseLux,Jarvan IV,Elise}, but otherwise, I am going to stay the course.
We had one of the three flip town; this was inevitable, as there could only be two scum among the three.
We still have bothAmumuandWarwickalive and I intend to eliminate both.-
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It would be my guess ifIn post 321, .Caitlyn. wrote:Well I'd like to hear your thoughts on Amumu's solveAmumuwere town, yes; ofLux,Jarvan IV, andElise, my feelings are strongest onLuxas town, although I admit a need to reread to be certain.
I'm largely putting that off as a "cross that roadifwe come to it".
We only need a second scum elimination to brute force a town win. The only way we do not get that is if bothAmumuandWarwickare town. In that worst case scenario, I feel like the optimal course of action would be for a ceasefire to happen, with anyone attacking without the consent of at least 3 players automatically being locked in as scum. During said ceasefire, we would then be able to review the information we have to get a better sense of which in the three remaining is town.-
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Sure, ifIn post 338, .JarvanIV. wrote:Is lux and elise a possible team?Amumu,Warwick, and yourself are all town.
Attack: Amumu
My preference isAmumu>Warwick>Eliseright now.-
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Volley: Amumu, Warwick, Jarvan IV
Warwickis attempting to defendAmumuhere.
I will not allow that.
Jarvan IV, I only included you because I need 3 names for volley; you have a lot of health so were a safe option. I was hoping to hold off on revealing this ability until 5 players in the worst case scenario (since volley would allow me to stop all 3 ofJarvan IV,Elise, andLux), but preventing my plan from being stopped takes priority over holding out on this.-
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Respectfully, I have no need to reassess the reads because there is no throwing of the game to be had.In post 365, .Warwick. wrote:Please re-assess your reads, I am not scum and I think it is Elise and Jarvan IV. You are throwing the game if that is the case.
If you were to flip town andAmumuwere also to flip town, it would not be game over. We would be in a 3v2. WithCaitlynas town, and myself as town, and with having volley at my disposal, it should be impossible for two scum to burst down one town.
You may be correct thatElise/Jarvan IVhave scum in them.
But I feel I have the tools to prevent them from winning in a 5p.
So I will take that risk.-
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To be fair, I am only two for three so far, and it is fully possible
Warwickis town which would make me two for four.
Paranoia is natural, but I felt the strength of my plan was outweighed the paranoia, so I shall continue sticking to it.
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