Micro 1055 - Trolled

[The_Evil_Within]

Praise God from whom all blessings flow. Praise Him all creatures here below.

VOTE: Enchant

[The_Evil_Within]

I'm glad I don't have the restriction on posting.

I shall pray for you.

I would like to point out two things in case you didn't notice. One: Town wins if all threats to us are eliminated,

and

we still have

two

townies alive. Between that and night start, that basically means we have very little room for error. The other thing to note is this:

The_Evil_Within is a Priest.

[The_Evil_Within]

That's part of the reason why I have a soft townread on you.

It was a general comment, not a comment directed specifically towards you.

Wow.

Mod literally made quiz about giving roles BEFORE alignments and someone still suggesting it's reason someone town.

Also, my restriction doesn't work for first my two posts, so i can make one more and then turn lurksuck

My friend, why have you sinned and fallen away from the One who gives life to all? This post was not a good use of your free posts and is also over the top.

Was really hoping you wouldn't point the preist bit out.

The Gracious and Almighty One saw it fit to not answer my question. Thus, I needed to ensure I was not put in a predicament that tests my faith.

What did you hope to gain by leaving it out there?

[The_Evil_Within]

Please stand for the reading of the Word.

8.Length of day phases:14 to 7 days.
Length of nights: 2 days. Will usually not end before all replacements are finished.
Other phases will be treated like day and/or night phases, if any.

9. Execution:People may vote to execute someone (e.g.VOTE: Not Known 15) to attempt to execute them during execution phases. Only one execution per that phase. Execution phases are day phases. No Execution is not avaliable. Abstain is. You may VOTE: Freeze if you vote anyone/vote Abstain. If you do, your vote cannot be changed until the day ends. An Execution will be performed if the deadline is reached or if someone gained legal votes from more than 50% of all living players. There may be exceptions to this rule.
10:FINAL EXLO: If, after a Night phase, there are exactly 3 people alive, the game descends into a final Execution phase. No one may be killed during this phase, except for Execution, and someone must be executed that day. The faction that had a member executed that day loses the game.
11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for an Execution is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered elimination target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip the game goes into the next phase
14:Daychat: Scum has Daychat by default.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color, Backup Mod color and Vanilla Role PM:
VANILLA TOWNIE
Your role: Vanilla: No role abilities. Your role has no hidden powers.
Your alignment: Town. No special abilities.
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least two town-aligned players are alive.

WEREWOLF GOON
Your role: Vanilla: No role abilities. Your role has no hidden powers.
Your alignment: Werewolf. You have a factional chat [HERE]. You have access to factional powers through this chat.
You win if all threats to the Werewolves are eliminated and at least one Werewolf player is alive, or nothing can stop this from happening.


This is my color:(#808080). Do not use it.
Contact ‪SirCakez‬ if I am out of prod range.
17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.
18:Setup-specific info:
Nightstart.
General Voting Restriction: No player may cast a hammering vote in the first 48 hours of an execution phase. The votes stay but only a vote(including a re-vote) after 48 hours can hammer. Votes caused by post restrictions and their punishments will be votes after 48 hours.
Anything posted in the Werewolf PT will be ignored by every single post restricion.
You may intentionally(or unintentionally) break post restrictions if you are willing to suffer the punishment.
This game has dead interaction. You are required to post in the dead thread if you are dead, just like you are required to post in the main thread if you are not. Posting restrictions may carry over into the dead thread, all other powers do not. Exception: Someone who does not gain access to the dead pt after dying is out of the game(but may still win). Werewolves are not added to the Dead PT.
This is a game that has exactly two factions. Werewolves, an informed minority starting with 2 players, and Townies, an uninformed majority starting with 7 players.
If there is any event or role that adds loss conditions then you WILL have at least one option that does not give you loss conditions.
Other types of conversions will definitely NOT occur.
Flips are supposed to be accurate.
Role PM's may contain hidden powers, but you will be notified if they do.
Posting and vote restrictions may or may not be public.
Your roles were generated before alignment rolls.
All alignments were rolled randomly, with everyone being rolled having the same chances.

This is the Word of the Lord. Thanks be to God. You may be seated.

So far i noticed, how poorly worded rules are, seems like it's designed to torture people who actually read modposts (like you know, me).

Meh, this is standard fare from Not Known 15. I don't think the poor formatting and wording are significant by themselves.

First is, protective from death. Second is poorly written rules and it was supposed to be AFTER ANY PHASE. Third one: Mod added this rule just to screw with people.

I agree that 10 is an unusual rule. I suspect that the majority of us have been gifted with additional powers from the Almighty One above. That makes 1 a good possibilities. It's also possible someone has a day killing ability given that 10 explicitly states no one can be killed during that day EXCEPT by execution. I don't really think 2's the case. Not Known 15 tends to be rather methodical about the details.

Reasoning WHY it could exist? Role which can survive execution while being scum. This rule prevents mafia just from lolcatting via invincibility.

Uh no. This is very unlikely considering the setup was reviewed. Bastardness aside, there wasn't an explicit disclaimer of the setup being unbalanced, so I have to believe that some effort was put into making a balanced and playable setup. A werewolf with invincibility combined with night start is just way too strong a power in night start. Arguably, it would be a town player who has the immunity. Also, it is most likely the case that whoever has immunity if such a person exists is unaware of the fact.

3. Dead interraction. Idk, most likely we have something like Medium with ability to talk in dead thread, but I can't predict anything. Or again, mod simple wants to keep our souls in game forever.

Now this aspect is interesting! I suspect that your latter thought is at least partially the reason. That said, I would expect the dead to have more influence than a medium. Maybe combined with the weird rule on 3p LimLo, this is suggesting that the dead can vote to protect someone during the day. That seems more likely than a flat out immunity of some sort.

4. Seems like obvious, but while there's many "It won't happen i swear!", there's never rule that mod couldn't lie. So yeah.. No commentary.

If this were the case, I'd suspect the mod would have skipped the quiz and forcing you to correct your response if your response was "wrong". Thus, it's unlikely there are mod lies in the setup.

Maybe scum don't have a night kill, that'd be a troll for them, lol. I mean, this is going to be massively difficult with two players on a 23 hour posting cool down, it would be far too easy to just manipulate day play AND have a night kill. It's probably why one person died before game start too. 3 mis-elims puts us in LimLo and that's not even considering one player is a Priest.

I could see this being the case. It then begs the question though of how someone died night 1.
VOTE: Abstain
VOTE: Freeze

[The_Evil_Within]

This is the day the Lord has made; Let us rejoice and be glad in it.

It has been imparted to me the meaning of abstaining. An abstain is neither a vote for nor against. Indeed, it is a vote to not vote. Thus, abstentions lower the number of votes needed to reach a majority and thus a hammer. I have full faith in everyone's ability to pick correctly hence why I have frozen my abstention.

As to other arguments as ti why to sustain, it is objectively favorable to try to return to odds, and given the bastardness of the setup, we shouldn't suspect that to happen by night actions. Having everyone freeze their vote on abstain forces one of three things to happen: 1) No elimination which is the goal 2) Werewolves pick kill which while undesirable is ultimately a worthwhile risk or 3) Random elimination. Three is still favorable in that it's unpredictable and will throw the wolves off balance.

about rule 10. This rule looks exactly like purpose to defeating Scum Prince or like that, so maybe you are right as well, but if you look at wording... Like, if scum executed they die and town win due all mafia death. Why highlight that?

This specific fact is not highlighted; indeed, it would be weirder if the rule excluded this case. The rule is written specifically to be as general as it can be.

[The_Evil_Within]

Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Angels: Flea The Magician, Toogeloo
Demons: Radical Rat, Enchant

I'm not convinced Enchant has the Wallposter role even though Toogeloo claims that the semantics match up. It's very possible the Werewolves have received additional divine inspiration and made a reasonable guess based on what they have. I commented on some earlier Enchant posts that I didn't like. Of the more recent ones, I'm not a fan of 161. It is rather wasteful for starters, and it comes off very much as posturing.

As to why Radical Rat is a demon, it mainly boils down to being an echo. Yes, yes, that's in a sense their role being that have to quote stuff, but they seem too committed to staying in the flow and not offering much commentary of their own. Even if we throw out that aspect of my read due to the post restriction, I'm still not convinced at the reads level that Rat is actually doing anything. Their reads seem pretty consensual and safe.

[The_Evil_Within]

Good game everyone. Well done on eliminating the last scum Toogeloo and Radical Rat.