Micro 618 {Over}

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There is no limit to the number of topics you can create.

This seems to be a very good rule to be abused =P. Create PT against 1 person and Create PT against any combination for 2 people. That should be like 8 + 8C2 = 8 + 26 = 34 PT.
~Realeo

8C2=8*7/2=28, so actually that's 36 PTs. And yes, I did ask Ranger when I pre-ined, you can indeed make all 36 PTs immediately.

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Also I'm the seventh player I believe, so the game has started!
VOTE: ReallySick for math fail

This is in fact correct.

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Also note that I'm V/LA until 13 June.

No problem, understood.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: MURDERCAT for accusing me of making him look dumb, when he actually made

himself

look dumb.

Why switch votes in RVS?

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VOTE: Chip Butty

for potentially carnivorous and to be honest, I have a hunch that BulletNLynchproof is town.

~ Realeo

Thinking back, this post pings me. "I think BNL is town" implies "I don't want to vote BNL for RVS", but there was no need to say that because I was at L-2.

Also, a hunch that I'm town? I don't think I've posted anything AI up to that point.

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I can also support the motion for Mafiascum PTs.

I want to scumread this for not being game related... but I can say the same for Charloux and karnos. And we have two non-posters -.-

I really hope that people are not talking solely in their PTs...

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^and Murdercat too.

Hopefully we get those people into action with their prods tomorrow

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What do you think about Murder trying to direct conversation towards BTD in 72?

I dont like it or even Murdercat in general. Look at his ISO... its not a towny ISO

Lol yeah, asking for someone to clarify a read I don't understand is so untowny... Gimme a break.

This "Gimme a break" pings me. It sounds like an overreaction.

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This is a new experience for me. You see, I always seem to attract a bunch of votes at the start of a game, due to my posting style. That leads to defending myself, which creates opportunities to catch scum. I don't know how to deal with this "nobody voting for karnos" meta.

I like karnos for town.

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lThe reason I posted the hunch was

BNLP at L-2

. With experience of being put at L-1 at page 6, I feel compulsory to declare that I'm not going put him at L-1.

So you weren't townreading me ("hunch"), you didn't vote me because I was at L-2. Keeping an eye on you.

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Also I'm going to assume Ariadne is Nahdia because I don't remember Aristophanes posting this way? This is going to be confusing because I'm assuming Ariadne=Ari=Aristophanes -.-

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VOTE: BTD That makes L-1 by my count.

Please don't hammer BTD immediately unless you are a wolf. Let him stew for a bit.

And now rethinking my townread on karnos. There's no evidence of a BTD6 scumread in his ISO, and it's too early for L-1.

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How was my vote scummy? It is consistent with my RVS vote from other games, where I vote someone for having a name suggesting a role that they don't have.

BTD, can you link to completed games with examples of this, please?

Are we looking for a claim from BTD here?

No, don't get BTD6 to claim yet. While he's at L-1, we're still too early in the Day phase, which means it's likely for the wagon to subside, so if he's town he has claimed for nothing. Claim only when close to a lynch i.e. L-1 plus intent to hammer near deadline.

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I have to say, that wagon looks a bit quick, guys...

Yes, the wagon seems a lot quicker than usual, and I feel that BTD6 is town with scum on his wagon, solely due to the speed of the wagon. Kinda reminds me of this.

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Both Murdercat's and karnos' votes on BTD6 look awful... I don't know which is worse.

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I couldn't read much today, but from my mental notes
UNVOTE: ReallySick
VOTE: MURDERCAT
Is scummier than Karnos. Will explain tomorrow.

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(Sorry got sidetracked by work!)

I honestly dislike the resistance to the BTD wagon. There's nothing I see redeemable about his slot and I don't mind putting him at L-1 this early. Especially considering the Wolves don't have nightkills, I'm not very worried about lynching too fast. Bulletproof's discrediting of the wagon in particular felt iffy. Not sure if they were white knighting or defending a partner, but BP's slot is definitely on my watch list now.

As is karnos for some very odd posts he made. At first read I actually felt like 101 was towny but I don't think so anymore. MURDER is right also, 119 pinged me hard. I don't like the immediate agreement with Chip's plan either. Seems like someone over eager to toe the party line.

-Ariadne

oh and since I think someone (Jae?) asked; Ariadne is the Nahdia head!

What?
Even though BTD hasn't posted much content, it's still early in the game where people are unable to post content, which is fine imo.
And you're fine putting him at L-1? You realise you could've done that in this post, right? BTD6 was at L-2 then.

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I couldn't read much today, but from my mental notes
UNVOTE: ReallySick
VOTE: MURDERCAT
Is scummier than Karnos. Will explain tomorrow.

Explaining my vote since I have time now. I wanted to shift my vote to either Murdercat or karnos because I didn't like that fast wagon, and I decided that Murdercat was scummier. I didnt like his posts from 95 to 98, and I also liked 100 by karnos. What prevented me from voting earlier was because I didn't like 31 by karnos as it was L-2 in RVS, but looking at his meta it's consistent.

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VOTE: Chip Butty

It's weak, but the best I have so far.

What's weak? I've never seen you make a case on Chip Butty.

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(Sorry got sidetracked by work!)

I honestly dislike the resistance to the BTD wagon. There's nothing I see redeemable about his slot and I don't mind putting him at L-1 this early. Especially considering the Wolves don't have nightkills, I'm not very worried about lynching too fast. Bulletproof's discrediting of the wagon in particular felt iffy. Not sure if they were white knighting or defending a partner, but BP's slot is definitely on my watch list now.

As is karnos for some very odd posts he made. At first read I actually felt like 101 was towny but I don't think so anymore. MURDER is right also, 119 pinged me hard. I don't like the immediate agreement with Chip's plan either. Seems like someone over eager to toe the party line.

-Ariadne

oh and since I think someone (Jae?) asked; Ariadne is the Nahdia head!

What?
Even though BTD hasn't posted much content, it's still early in the game where people are unable to post content, which is fine imo.
And you're fine putting him at L-1? You realise you could've done that in this post, right? BTD6 was at L-2 then.

So you're defending him by nature of his lack of posts? Fine, but I think the posts he HAS made are indicative of scum. So that's a pretty moot defense.
And yea, I realize I could have put him at L-1 there. I decided against it for my own reasons.

I'm not defending him, lack of content is scummy, but not

that

scummy in early game. I'm townreading him because I believe there was scum on his wagon.

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(Sorry got sidetracked by work!)

I honestly dislike the resistance to the BTD wagon. There's nothing I see redeemable about his slot and I don't mind putting him at L-1 this early. Especially considering the Wolves don't have nightkills, I'm not very worried about lynching too fast. Bulletproof's discrediting of the wagon in particular felt iffy. Not sure if they were white knighting or defending a partner, but BP's slot is definitely on my watch list now.

As is karnos for some very odd posts he made. At first read I actually felt like 101 was towny but I don't think so anymore. MURDER is right also, 119 pinged me hard. I don't like the immediate agreement with Chip's plan either. Seems like someone over eager to toe the party line.

-Ariadne

oh and since I think someone (Jae?) asked; Ariadne is the Nahdia head!

Rereading this.
You say karnos' 119 pinged you hard, yet you say that you're fine having BTD6 at L-1. Explain?

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Catching up.

It's a lot more posts than I'm used to over 24 hours, especially for a Micro.

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(Sorry got sidetracked by work!)

I honestly dislike the resistance to the BTD wagon. There's nothing I see redeemable about his slot and I don't mind putting him at L-1 this early. Especially considering the Wolves don't have nightkills, I'm not very worried about lynching too fast. Bulletproof's discrediting of the wagon in particular felt iffy. Not sure if they were white knighting or defending a partner, but BP's slot is definitely on my watch list now.

As is karnos for some very odd posts he made. At first read I actually felt like 101 was towny but I don't think so anymore. MURDER is right also, 119 pinged me hard. I don't like the immediate agreement with Chip's plan either. Seems like someone over eager to toe the party line.

-Ariadne

oh and since I think someone (Jae?) asked; Ariadne is the Nahdia head!

Rereading this.
You say karnos' 119 pinged you hard, yet you say that you're fine having BTD6 at L-1. Explain?

Not sure what you're getting at. I can have more than one scumread you know?

Karnos L-1ed BTD in 119.

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D&A, you must've thought that BTD6 realised he wasn't actually hammered by karnos. Why?

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(Sorry got sidetracked by work!)

I honestly dislike the resistance to the BTD wagon. There's nothing I see redeemable about his slot and I don't mind putting him at L-1 this early. Especially considering the Wolves don't have nightkills, I'm not very worried about lynching too fast. Bulletproof's discrediting of the wagon in particular felt iffy. Not sure if they were white knighting or defending a partner, but BP's slot is definitely on my watch list now.

As is karnos for some very odd posts he made. At first read I actually felt like 101 was towny but I don't think so anymore. MURDER is right also, 119 pinged me hard. I don't like the immediate agreement with Chip's plan either. Seems like someone over eager to toe the party line.

-Ariadne

oh and since I think someone (Jae?) asked; Ariadne is the Nahdia head!

Rereading this.
You say karnos' 119 pinged you hard, yet you say that you're fine having BTD6 at L-1. Explain?

Not sure what you're getting at. I can have more than one scumread you know?

Karnos L-1ed BTD in 119.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddd?

You said you don't mind putting BTD at L-1.

D&A, you must've thought that BTD6 realised he wasn't actually hammered by karnos. Why?

What makes you say that?
You thought that BTD6's claim was fake, even after post-"hammer".
-Ariadne

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D&A, you must've thought that BTD6 realised he wasn't actually hammered by karnos. Why?

What makes you say that?
-Ariadne[/quote]You thought that BTD6's claim was fake, even after post-"hammer".

(Just bringing this out because it's harder to see it inside the quote)

I'd fix the quote if I knew how it was broke.
I'm an idiot, so I don't.

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Karnos pinged you hard in 119, and there was his L-1 vote on BTD6. Yet you say that you don't mind putting BTD at L-1.

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You did not believe BTD6's claim, even though both you and him thought he was already hammered. If you didn't believe his claim even in "twilight", you must've noticed that he wasn't actually hammered.

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What's the point?

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Basically I simply don't see why you need to believe or distrust a claim because if it was really a hammer his claim being real or fake didn't matter.

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I thought he was hammered, he claimed a PR after being hammered, I didn't believe it, so I counterclaimed so he would vengekill me.

UNDERSTAND?

-Ariadne

I... actually think this is fair enough. Was scumreading you though that exchange and even considered voting you, but this is a fair defence.

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Well, MC is my choice for second wolf, so I don't mind taking him to

L-1

.

VOTE: MURDERCAT

But why leave D&A? Why would you rather vote Murdercat than D&A, having both as scum?

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Sigh. I think Jae is town. I reeeallly want Jae to be town. But I'm so prone to being buddied, I'm just not sure.

I don't particularly love a MURDERCAT lynch. I would still strongly prefer BulletNLynchproof be lynched.

But I'll hammer MURDER if the deadline is ever imminent.

-Ariadne

Wrt to bolded, don't you think it's early/premature to talk about it? We're still four days from deadline, and talking about shifting wagons seems to be preemptive.

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Moderate Town: Charloux
Null-weak Town: Chip, ReallySick, JaeReed
Weak scum: BNL, Murdercat
Moderate-strong scum: Karnos, D&A

Why are you townreading me? I haven't really posted anything useful so shouldn't it be Null?

This seems to be a good point.

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Are you scumreading me simply because the reasons I'm scumreading you are what you percieve to be garbage?

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What's the point?

Saying so for the sake of saying so? Baiting a vengekill? Are you really having this much trouble fathoming someone doing something that isn't done for an intricate strategic purpose?

This is a reeeeaaally scummy mindset you're showing off. I'm becoming a lot more content with my vote on you.

-Ariadne

FTR I do not see why you are scumreading me over 322/324.

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Your logic is that town makes pointless posts?

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I have a feeling BTD gambited, and D&A just CC-ed without thinking about it...

Rereading.

What did BTD gambit about? His claim? He thought he was hammered...

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UNVOTE: out of L-1.

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Jae, you still fine L-1ing 3 days from deadline? I'd prefer that only two days away IMO.

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Current standings:
I think BTD6 is town because I am buying his Cop claim.
After that exchange, I also think that D&A is town. There were some scummy stuff I didn't like, but it could be playstyle issues and conflict in philosiphies (like our disagreement on "Town makes pointless posts"). I think their reads are also good. However, I am not very confident on this read and I feel it's easily prone to being swayed.
I do think it's possible for BTD6 vs D&A to be a TvT. BTD6 claims Cop in "twilight", D&A strongly scumreading them and not trusting his claim, baits the vengekill.

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Rereading Murdercat again. I didn't like some posts where he reacted poorly to pressure (I'll quote them, not sure how to explain in words), but reading back my previous game with him, I realised he said "Gimme a break" as town there, which was one of the things that pinged me.

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Actually yeah just read back, nothing much actually pinged me, except for the BTD vote, "Gimme a break" and "I'll humor you".

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Rereading karnos ISO. Would want to point out this contradiction while I continue reading:

You realize this is a micro game right? L-1 in a micro game is about the same as L-2 in a larger game. There are only 2 scum. I put BTD at L-1 because I'd LOVE to see a scum quick-hammer him, it would rip the game wide open and give town a free lynch tomorrow. I trust my fellow town to not hammer needlessly. I also saw some value in seeing exactly how BTD reacted to the sudden wagon.

But now all that is for naught.

Not strongly, I was voting him to provide a service:

Can we wagon BTD please? I'm not comfortable with a townread of mine running up time as the highest wagon while BTD is looking scummy and laying low content-wise. If BNL's town then that's exactly what the wolves want to happen here.

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Well, MC is my choice for second wolf, so I don't mind taking him to

L-1

.

VOTE: MURDERCAT

But why leave D&A? Why would you rather vote Murdercat than D&A, having both as scum?

The strategy being, find both scum on day 1, kill the less likely scum first.

That way, if somehow BTD's claim is legit, we get a night of seering if we guessed wrong. And if we guess right, then we lynch the likely wolf tomorrow and win.

It's probably not going to be *that* easy, but the strategy is sound, is it not?

Why answer for Chip?

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Rereading karnos ISO. Would want to point out this contradiction while I continue reading:

You realize this is a micro game right? L-1 in a micro game is about the same as L-2 in a larger game. There are only 2 scum. I put BTD at L-1 because I'd LOVE to see a scum quick-hammer him, it would rip the game wide open and give town a free lynch tomorrow. I trust my fellow town to not hammer needlessly. I also saw some value in seeing exactly how BTD reacted to the sudden wagon.

But now all that is for naught.

Not strongly, I was voting him to provide a service:

Can we wagon BTD please? I'm not comfortable with a townread of mine running up time as the highest wagon while BTD is looking scummy and laying low content-wise. If BNL's town then that's exactly what the wolves want to happen here.

I see no contradiction here. He voted BTD because I asked for it and decided it would be good for reactions. That's a part of what wagons are. I was scumreading BTD but he didn't need to in order to join the wagon.

First, karnos says that he voted BTD for reactions (from potential hammerers and BTD himself), then he says it was because he wanted to follow you. Are you seeing something that I am not?

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Note; This is NOT our official read--we are somewhat contradicting like hell. This is purely my (Realeo) read and I just want to throw my opinion into the table.

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I personally do not buy MURDERCAT being scum.

Karnos: MURDERCAT copies BPLP

I don't necessary buy them as AI. Karnos implied them as "Scum copying other person", but can't MURDERCAT & BPLP is just having classic "Great Minds Think Alike?"

That L-1 unvote. WTF?

I understand that people are wondering about the L-1, but I think that is NAI at best. They're 2 type of players here at best "the guy who take their time" (ie.me) & "lynch da bitch" guy (ie.Karnos)

I just want to classify MURDERCAT as the former one.

Don't you hammer, you dunce!

Remember that hammah trick? (Stares at Karnos). I'd like to that that MURDERCAT's reaction is real and basically just being consistent with "the guy who take their time" guy.

So if I townread MURDERCAT, why are you not changing your vote?

Simple, it takes mutual agreement to vote MURDERCAT, so it also takes mutual agreement to unvote MURDERCAT. Being a Hydra is tough, you can't just trump your other head opinion. Please, give us a break.><

~Realeo

So reading again. I don't like how Realeo is townreading Murdercat by discrediting scumpoints rather than making a towncase. This is because this could be scum defending their buddy.

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OK so
Townreads on BTD6 and D&A for reasons already stated.
Charloux is null, low activity but justifiable.
JaeReed I haven't been paying much attention to. Same with Murdercat after the fake BTD6 hammer thing.
I'm having trouble reading karnos. I see some really townie stuff in his iso and also some really scummy stuff.
ReallySick and Chip Butty's activity has died down.

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Yeah so I'm having trouble coming up with reads. Trying a different approach for scumhunting.

Could ReallySick/Chip Butty be the scumteam here? Game is stalling near deadline, and these two people's activities are declining, and on the same wagon. This could mean they are scum waiting for people to pile on Murdercat.

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First, karnos says that he voted BTD for reactions (from potential hammerers and BTD himself), then he says it was because he wanted to follow you. Are you seeing something that I am not?

Yup! My QuickTopic with him!

So it was clarified/he seems townie in the QT?

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If my choices are between Murdercat and D&A, I'd choose Murdercat. He's null for me, but D&A's a townread.

VOTE: Murdercat

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I know my play has been really weak this game, and I'm not surprised I'm being wagoned here. Tbh, I feel like my lynch isn't too bad of an idea, because I'm only being either scumread or nullread.

And this is why I have a townread on D&A:

Are you scumreading me simply because the reasons I'm scumreading you are what you percieve to be garbage?

That, and also because I think your questioning of every slot is largely disingenuous. I don't believe you're legitimately sorting, I think you're just trying to keep up appearances. That's the impression I get looking through your ISO, at the very least. It's something a lot of "stronger" players who haven't quite mastered emulating towniness fall into (myself included).

Nahdia's right that my questioning is not really kept up, and I'm not really trying to sort people, I just ask questions in order to try to get engaged with the game. I am unable to read people this game. This also involves my playstyle: I always try to force myself to post once every day, so if I can't get any reads, what I end up doing is find one thing which I can comment on or question on, even if it doesn't help my reads, and hope that I can find something the next day which can help my reads, so "keeping up appearances". But it turns out that I am completely unable to get many reads. Her read on me for this point is completely true and I don't think that scum will be able to fake this reasoning on me, instead finding something else to jump onto me.

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Currently I think there is scum on my wagon, possibly two but strongly leaning one. I think it's ReallySick.

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I believe BTD's claim.
And even if you don't believe it, it's better to leave him alive for at least one night.

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If my choices are between Murdercat and D&A, I'd choose Murdercat. He's null for me, but D&A's a townread.

VOTE: Murdercat

self preservation vote...

Also this isn't a self preservation vote. I was following ReallySick here:

PS: We have 1 day left. Start voting even though you're not sure.

~Realeo

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Is that to me?

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Ok so I think BNL is scum with BTD. How anyone could ever believe that cop claim is beyond me, the only thing that makes sense is that BTD is some sort of scum PR that BNL wants to keep alive for a night (maybe that's why BTD is so convinced there is an RB?)

OK so
Townreads on BTD6 and D&A for reasons already stated.
Charloux is null, low activity but justifiable.
JaeReed I haven't been paying much attention to. Same with Murdercat after the fake BTD6 hammer thing.
I'm having trouble reading karnos. I see some really townie stuff in his iso and also some really scummy stuff.
ReallySick and Chip Butty's activity has died down.

I think this is pretty bad. None of these reads have any substance or anything, as they seem to change based on how other people are reading others. BTD is obviously an outlier, I assume because they are scum together and BNL has some need to keep BTD alive for as long as possible.

The vote on me was opportunistic and just plain bad.

I will vote here at deadline if needed, but I still think we should vote obv scum BTD.

Yes it's pretty bad. I'm having a hard time reading people this game?

Is anything wrong with BTD's claim?

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The first question mark should've been a full stop.

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I forgot about that investigatives were broken with the QTs, and it has nothing to do with the Nightless part. (Jae you remember when you were a follower in the fallout shelter?)

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That said, I still want to leave BTD alive for at least one night.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: karnos

I finally have a scumread. I am suspicious of his townread on me and I think he could be scum white knighting, considering I have not been townie and almost all the other players are scumreading me. I also didn't like his earlier buddying of me.

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So you don't think there is a seer? But you want to keep the person claiming seer alive???

Lynch town today then "seer" later is no different from lynching "seer" then town. We are playing to win, not win as soon as possible.

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So I think one scum is on my wagon and one is off. Gut tells me RS is the scum on my wagon, but I didn't like Jae's entry to my wagon either.

As to off my wagon, I think its between Chip and karnos.

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I honestly dislike the resistance to the BTD wagon. There's nothing I see redeemable about his slot and I don't mind putting him at L-1 this early. Especially considering the Wolves don't have nightkills, I'm not very worried about lynching too fast. Bulletproof's discrediting of the wagon in particular felt iffy. Not sure if they were white knighting or defending a partner, but BP's slot is definitely on my watch list now.

What I find interesting is that you have a problem with BNL's complaint against the fast L-1 wagon, but you don't mention Murdercat at all... when he had the exact same complaint, posted later.

We have this...

I have to say, that wagon looks a bit quick, guys...

Yes, the wagon seems a lot quicker than usual, and I feel that BTD6 is town with scum on his wagon, solely due to the speed of the wagon. Kinda reminds me of this.

And then we have this...

VOTE: Karnos

Off the top of my head I can think of two games where scum went to a really early L-1, and I only have 5 completed games.

Plus I don't want him at L-1.

And...

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p7785107
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p7886595

Both of those are scum going to L-1 on town. I think scum is generally more ok with going to L-1 early on.

It's like murdercat wanted to exactly copy BNL's post, and even provided a link to a game just like BNL, yet he didn't even acknowledge that he was copying BNL. This really rubs me a scummy thing to do. And yet D&A seem to completely miss the post by murdercat, even while calling out BNL for making an identical post.

D&A + murdercat scum team? Too early to say, but I'm at least curious what the rest of you think of this theory.

Basically I simply don't see why you need to believe or distrust a claim because if it was really a hammer his claim being real or fake didn't matter.

This.

If BTD was hammered, there is no need to verify or counterclaim him or whatever. D&A knew it was a fake hammer, I am convinced of that much. The only question in my mind is whether she is scum going for an opportune lynch, or an overzealous towny willing to lie to push a lynch on someone she thinks (but can't know) is scum.

Well, MC is my choice for second wolf, so I don't mind taking him to

L-1

.

VOTE: MURDERCAT

But why leave D&A? Why would you rather vote Murdercat than D&A, having both as scum?

The strategy being, find both scum on day 1, kill the less likely scum first.

That way, if somehow BTD's claim is legit, we get a night of seering if we guessed wrong. And if we guess right, then we lynch the likely wolf tomorrow and win.

It's probably not going to be *that* easy, but the strategy is sound, is it not?

This is the buddying of me that I mentioned earlier that I didn't like.

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VOTE: BNL

Since it looks like this might actually happen now and is my preferred.

Entry onto my wagon that I didn't like. Also look at previous few posts before that.

Gut is telling me that it's RS that's scum though :/

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I have nothing to lose, so might as well ask:

If I were scum, why don't you think my partner helped me by providing me with fake reads instead of having me make nullish stances on everyone?

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If I'm so bad at scum hunting and you are so good, you have nothing to worry about- I'm sure you are right and BNL will flip scum and you will be vindicated.

Huh?

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Sorry if my contribution has gone down a lot. At this point I feel like I've gamesolved and am just waiting for the last few stragglers to catch up. I'm not buyin' anything BNL is selling today. I might be wrong, but we'll need a flip to see if that's the case. If BNL does flips town I'll gladly re-evaluate, but I don't think he will.

-Ariadne

You don't have to

now

, but please promise to look back at them once I become confirmed town (I.e. lynched in 7 minutes).

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I think you are perfectly able to come up with fake reads if you wanted to. I think there was a reason you didn't want to take a firm position yet. I just don't see how you are believing the claim. No one has managed to provide me with a setup that makes sense.

So your scumread on me is tied to BTD?

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I'm not. My lynch is inevitable. I'm trying to get some last words in before deadline.

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That doesn't answer my question though.

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Maybe scum is BTD+someone saying "BTD is obvscum but not good lynch today"?

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Why is karnos town?

I have no interest in moving to D&A, even if you're willing.

[BNL]

So, we are choosing between Murdercat and BnL? If i have to choose i'd lynch BnL though; Will be here before the deadline.

Not reading

[BNL]

idk if AI though

[BNL]

Jae has been under the radar. What are reads on him?

[BNL]

Amazing that my early game reads were better than my late game reads (wrt my lifespan, at least...). Also correctly scumread Murdercat even though it was incorrectly predicated on a BTD townread.

My BTD was well off the mark though. Can someone tell me why my townread was wrong due to the 1. quickwagon, 2. claim?

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Oh, and GG Murdercat.