Open 906 - Oh no, what am I gonna name the mafia PT???

[Purplemango]

Hello!!

[Purplemango]

Oh the game started
Good luck and things like that!

[Purplemango]

I was in two games, one of them as scum
But i don't really played good, we won mostly bc the other people and i still don't really understand the site, only basic level

Sure, same for you

[Purplemango]

Didn't played good*
I think

[Purplemango]

haha okay good luck to us both.

i think my only 'game plan' atm is to try and put myself in the headspace that i really am town when posting in the main thread, trying to work things out. might be a good idea to use my posts in here to make notes of what 'town-me' is thinking when she posts, so i don't forget.

It's quite smart, that way it will also be easier for us to understand each other's thought process and such

I mainly worry about mason, because then they will have way to confirm each other in a more possible and orderly way
And will also prevent us from claiming random roles, Although I will probably claim a third party for fun considering it doesn't exist here anyway

[Purplemango]

my tentative plan for it i get e-1'd (subject to change based on gamestate obvs) is to claim cop to:
a) bait out real PRs to counter claim
b) claim to have no result from night 2 onwards (night 1 can be an innocent on a dead townie) to hopefully make town doubt anyone claiming to roleblocked after i'm limmed, since mafia seems to want town to think there's a roleblocker

as you say though, (a) at least is useless if it's masons so idk

Make sense
We can try not to kill in the night, ig it would help us to know if there's mason or not

[Purplemango]

And then look on how other people respond for that
For example, if it's two masons it'll be kinda weird for them

[Purplemango]

I think it mostly depends on what state the game will be in
If we're both trustworthy enough, then it can be more effective than a regular kill

[Purplemango]

Practically, if you pretend you don't understand much about the game it can make it easier for you to avoid being suspected, I think

[Purplemango]

But it can be less fun probably

[Purplemango]

i've been lurking here about a month waiting for a game. i've probably picked up some elements of site meta that i'd probably end of slipping if i try to play too dumb. i'm sure i can look dumb enough without trying too hard lol

Make sense
On different topic, do you know why they voting me? Both people who did that didn't add an explanation or something

[Purplemango]

Probably in a joking way but idk

[Purplemango]

I'm usually a very enthusiastic person (I'm not sure if that's the right word, but you get the point)
For example, I often use '!!!' and such
I understand why it can be perceived as scummy, so thanks /g

[Purplemango]

Why did it make : ) like that

[Purplemango]

Not really
I only played with black for like an half day

I really don't understand it

[Purplemango]

If i'll be like "yooo i have votes!" It'll be weird, right?

[Purplemango]

Like
In scummy way

[Purplemango]

this thread is going to become a madwoman's journal if i keep talking to myself like this lol

Yea sorry
Right now as town i probbly have jake the wolfie as the most scum in my mind

[Purplemango]

Like
In a keep an eye on them way

[Purplemango]

*increasingly disturbing mumbling*

i am town i am town town is me i am town halfasleep is town town is me i am town i am town

No way i think someone named halfasleep is actually town here

[Purplemango]

Yea i understood
Its pretty helpful, not weird

[Purplemango]

*increasingly disturbing mumbling*

i am town i am town town is me i am town halfasleep is town town is me i am town i am town

No way i think someone named halfasleep is actually town here

What supposed to be in the photo?

[Purplemango]

LMAO

[Purplemango]

ok zzz i looked at purplemango's past games and i think he actually had less trouble getting into the game as scum than as town

oh hell yeah this is what we like to see lol

It means he see me as scum or town?
I didn't really get his post

[Purplemango]

well operation 'be annoying' is starting to get results it seems.

Indeed, good play

[Purplemango]

No its ok, also you're right in this
I just don't really know when i should post that will be good and not really annoying

[Purplemango]

ok zzz i looked at purplemango's past games and i think he actually had less trouble getting into the game as scum than as town

oh hell yeah this is what we like to see lol

It means he see me as scum or town?
I didn't really get his post

if i'm reading it right they think you play more engaged with the game as scum so they're reading your low postcount as townish.

Oh make sense
I probably shouldn't tell them that its has nothing to do with it

[Purplemango]

You would be ok if i'll respond to your reads?
I think it's make sense bc almost no one wrote a specific reads and i can see myself doing that as town too

[Purplemango]

Like
Mostly ask quastions/respond to things

[Purplemango]

Oh i can change vote
Bc i still vote black rn

[Purplemango]

Imagine is next post being like "ok cool" and then some random thing who has nothing to do with it

[Purplemango]

What makes you think jake is more town then scum?
After all, you specifically put him in town-ish and not neutral There's a chance it's his normal way of playing, but it's still pretty weird to me
He has the option to keep his information to himself for now, and still participate more actively/ seriously in the game

I'll go read his previous games, I think, to understand better and such


Is it ok for you?

[Purplemango]

It should be
Like its first time someone told actual based reads with explanation and then just no for some reason

[Purplemango]

I'm trying to read other games of jake the wolfie and its also very random posts
But still ig they make more sense so i can use it

[Purplemango]

I was saying it mostly because its funny
I'll probably use it, don't know if now tho

[Purplemango]

Tell me when you think its too much

[Purplemango]

ah well the gamers might have me here lol. we'll have to wait for a couple more people to get back to the thread and weigh in but it's not looking great for me. it's definitely better me than you but i'd really like to get through one night to thin town a bit. i don't love your chances if it's 1v7...

I don't think they'll eliminate you day one, its not really logical in my mind
Anyway as you said we should wait to other people too

[Purplemango]

How did you get to E-1 for almost nothing lmao

[Purplemango]

I think you should respond to the "idk she's doesn't feel like newbie enough" or something
Its kinda weird argument i think

[Purplemango]

Why did i use "i think" two times on the same sentence

[Purplemango]

Yea make sense

[Purplemango]

Yea indeed

[Purplemango]

I am not gonna defense too much/more then that but still its makes sense for me as town too for now

[Purplemango]

I don't think we can vote fireisredsir too
I think we maybe could get jake even without you

[Purplemango]

We can kill them at night
Its not really make sense for scum you to do it

[Purplemango]

There's no chance for third party, right?
Like jester or something

[Purplemango]

Yea good
Just wanted to make sure because i really don't find logical explanation for jake's action rn

[Purplemango]

and to clear for town there's 9 possible setups not 3 so don't end up giving away that you know a cop flip means there's a doctor or anything

Of curse

[Purplemango]

Its so funny i love it
Should i vote him?

[Purplemango]

Yea
I can also just ask if its ok, i'm pretty sure i already said i think he's scum
And i love hammering people

[Purplemango]

Fuck it
But its still kinda good situation

[Purplemango]

Yea

[Purplemango]

Good night:)

[Purplemango]

How is it more then 100

[Purplemango]

What is happening damn

[Purplemango]

Are we supposed to say something?

[Purplemango]

anyway purple i totally get it if you're wanting to step away from the game for now since the tone got so negative. but if you are wanting to stay involved you probably shouldn't ignore black asking you a direct question

When did she ask me?

[Purplemango]

The whole thing happened at the middle of the night for me so i wasn't focused

[Purplemango]

Yea its ok i just didn't saw it
I need to organize some things and then i'll answer it

[Purplemango]

It doesn't let my post things in the thread for some reason

[Purplemango]

Yea probably

[Purplemango]

I don't think thats really count because we're only two but pagetop!

[Purplemango]

Its what you supposed to do in the game lmao
I'm the problem

[Purplemango]

Good night!!

[Purplemango]

I'll probably ask for replacement too

[Purplemango]

Its not related to you, why do you say sorry?
not really, mostly technical things
Just wanted to inform you so it wont be weird

[Purplemango]

/gen

[Purplemango]

Fr
Also its at random time

[Purplemango]

Null is like natural or something?

[Purplemango]

purple i think at this point you should immediately hammer if any townie goes to e-1 at any point. we still benefit a lot from you surviving even one lim.

Maybe, its also can help people know i' scum so idk

[Purplemango]

More then the usual

[Purplemango]

i think if i was town i'd be having a pretty hard time figuring you out myself lol

Probably
The problem is i do act kinda the same as town
I need to be more town-ish as town

[Purplemango]

I do trying to participate more so its good, i th8nk

[Purplemango]

Think*

[Purplemango]

Also i don't really think we could get kay this day

[Purplemango]

I don't think it'll woek either, too much town
But i can try
Maybe we should try to vote jackson

[Purplemango]

Work*

[Purplemango]

Thank u!

[Purplemango]

It probably makes more sense than writing a strange combination of English words and then checking if it's correct and adding more random words that I don't know how to translate

[Purplemango]

ah, ok. i did wonder if you weren't in your first language. you should definitely write the actual wording of things yourself (the difference in our voices would stand out if i helped write too much) but we can definitely figure out what you wanna say first or you could post in here and we could talk it through/make changes if you think it'd help you.

Thank you:)
Most of the time its working

[Purplemango]

It probably makes more sense than writing a strange combination of English words and then checking if it's correct and adding more random words that I don't know how to translate

I'm sorry for getting you into this, Purple.

There'a no emoji of broken heart so you have to imagine it yourself (/j)

[Purplemango]

Yes

[Purplemango]

But right now he's mostly the one who doesn't think i'm scum, thats my only concern
Other then that it is sound pretty good

[Purplemango]

Do you think it'll make sense for you to vote jackson?

[Purplemango]

If i vote for gimli, why would he vote for jackson and not on me?
Sorry for kinda being annoying i just need to organise it in my brain

[Purplemango]

We can also nightkill kay after it, so its probably gonna help

[Purplemango]

haha that miiiight be a little obvious lol

Exactly!
As scum, its better for you to vote her out, because people already know you scumread her
Also its too much obvious for to try this as scum

[Purplemango]

Like
Its look too much like you to actually try to nightkill her

[Purplemango]

What "he's just feels pure" means lmao

[Purplemango]

Like its probably good, i think?
But just funny

[Purplemango]

I'm looking at things in the treads and every time its so random

[Purplemango]

Thread

[Purplemango]

According to your claim, you are a town, assuming they are also a town What is the difference? Especially since you should be completely sure what your role is, and less about theirs


Is this clear? To the "i'd rather die then vote jake/kay" of jackson

[Purplemango]

Its pretty weird take so i think its make sense to respond to that

[Purplemango]

Good night:)

[Purplemango]

What the chances that jackson and jake are masons?

[Purplemango]

Like jackson really defend him, but they didn't had much interactions like with kay

[Purplemango]

I'll get astigmatism from squinting too hard at mango's ISO trying to sense anything AI

@mango can you please do more in the game when you get the chance?

in other news, squinting too hard did make me feel like mango might be a townie. I think the most AI stuff about mango is his progression on jake, and it's kind of a weird one. but I do think the progression is a townie one where mango shows he is evaluating the slot while extremely confused about jake's actions in game.

sit tight, grab your favorite beverage and let's walk through this together

Spoiler: trying to townread mango

TOWN-ISH:

Jake The Wolfie:

i find his (thus far) non-contributing posting style irritating but i think he looks more like town playing his own game and keeping his cards hidden while not caring if he's annoying anyone, than scum just trying to be unhelpful.

Black:

hasn't said all that much yet but all her posts look good to me. every post after RVS have been pretty solid questions that look like sincere attempts to poke reactions out of them to read them better. also she went for me in RVS which is great because i love attention. heavily biased townread.

What makes you think jake is more town then scum?
After all, you specifically put him in town-ish and not neutral
There's a chance it's his normal way of playing, but it's still pretty weird to me He has the option to keep his information to himself for now, and still participate more actively/ seriously in the game

I'll go read his previous games to understand better and that

this is the first mango post about jake, and I like this because he is already showing being concerned about the jake slot. while the phrasing is confusing and I'm not sure I get it all, I think he is saying that jake is kind of just actively trolling the game and so it doesn't make sense for him to be townread. I like that he is going at halfasleep's post to point it out, and I like his standpoint on jake in this post.

it's vibes, mainly. i'm not an experienced player and don't have any past-game knowledge behind any of my reads it's just my own feelings.

anyway welcome back to the thread. nice to hear from you finally :P

From what I saw, other games also had a lot of jokes and things like that, but it still made more sense as a game that I would expect from town, and they gave more explanations and thoughts than here
Could be but also related to the fact that the game is much slower, so I don't know
It's effective to act like this when you're scum anyway

Hello!!:))

I like that mango did went ahead and metadived jake. it doesn't feel like he is just doing that for townpoints, and it seems like a simple meta case to check out, which is whether the player was joking too hard or not too hard in other towngames. while I don't think this is how you meta people, there's an investigative trend already going on here which I like.

I think that the read on Kay is weird and that none of Kay's behavior thus far has been strictly alignment-indicative, and the fact that they think Jake could be town for doing nothing at all but thinking that I'm neutral for also doing nothing is strange.

The reads definitely feel a little forced, like she made them only because I told her to. I actually think this is NAI because it's so early into the game; townies would perhaps not hesitate to say that they don't have conclusive reads, but just as likely they would force some reads because it's pro-town behavior.

On the other hand, I buy JacksonVirgo's newbcard argument more. halfasleep has definitely been posting in a way that's different than what would be expected from a newbie and it feels off

What the problem with giving reads early/based on gut reads? Its better then nothing, i don't think she now gonna stay with all of the reads to the entire time or something, and it did help to make the game more active


This post look weird in my mind but i don't i don't know why, please tell me if its not understandable

this isn't about jake but it's another post I like because it feels organic. I like the 'I don't like this but can't really explain why', it doesn't read as a fake thought from scum, but as a townie thought from someone who can't properly explain themselves. turning feelings into words can be tricky, but often only when you're a townie.

VOTE: JakeTheWolfie

If that is an unsatisfactory response, you have the authority to execute me now.

I can kinda see that possible both as scum and town
But still it doesn't really make sense if they actually try to win, so idk
Its not helping the town either way

this kind of being in two minds about jake also feels like a legitimately towny thought. I like the phrasing here and in subsequent posts because it's reasonable to me that mango's scumread on jake would tremble with the gambit, and that while trying to figure out why the hell jake would do that as scum, mango draws a blank. I also like that he questioned jupiter A LOT about that, and I agree with the sentiment that jupiter exaggerated how likely it was that the gambit was coming from scum.

Its look like mostly trolling and such

i don't think this is trolling, kay- i think it's just a scum move here

But whats the point of it??
Like "yes come on vote me" so we wouldn't do it and just hope that we will ignore him or something?

i don't think this is trolling, kay- i think it's just a scum move here

But whats the point of it??
Like "yes come on vote me" so we wouldn't do it and just hope that we will ignore him or something?

i did talk about this earlier

ok so are you asking me to explain to you why people use this strategy or why this makes jake scum?

How will this help him as scum for longer term?
I thought even before they were scum, so my problem is not in that but like
What the thought process for that

thoughts on purplemango: think theyre partnered w jake because the way they questioned jake's thing to me felt strange idr the specific wording but it felt incredibly frantic and really weird to me. like idk why do u think i know whats going on inside jakes head bro

I'm mostly said that i don't find logic in it, i don't expect you to reads minds or something
Also, why wouldn't you want play anymore? There's something to help it?

UNVOTE: black
I forgot i voted for her in like the first thing

Do you have any reads?

I kinda forgot about it and had busy day, sorry
Also i had something better but it got deleted
Anyway
More scum then town: jake, jacksonvirgo
In the middle of both: halfasleep, ming
Idk: jay
More town then scum: fireisredsir, black(???)

UNVOTE: black
I forgot i voted for her in like the first thing

Do you have any reads?

I kinda forgot about it and had busy day, sorry
Also i had something better but it got deleted
Anyway
More scum then town: jake, jacksonvirgo
In the middle of both: halfasleep, ming
Idk: jay
More town then scum: fireisredsir, black(???)

This is some interesting stuff.

Would you care to elaborate on any of it?

jake - I don't really understand the logic behind actions, at the moment it's getting better, but still too weird to be a town in my mind
Like, too much doesn't make sense

jacksonvirgo - similar to above, strange way of speaking, more like scum than town, but it might be their usual and I just don't know enough

halfasleep - it's hard for me to see her as scum, considering that she talked a lot and actively promotes the town, but it might just be a good cover or something ming - I can see too much as both scum and town, so he's in the middle as well

black - the way she talks makes more sense as a town, and her defense works for me I sort of understand her thought process

fireisredsir - probably related to the fact that I generally agree with him on some things, similar to the above, there is a good chance that will change

I have no idea about jay, and in general I also see jupiter as a town at the moment but it seems less relevant to me now

I'm kind of agreeing with some of these reads. while theyre pretty superficial, they sound organic and sensible. it doesn't feel like he has an agenda behind the thoughts on any of these slots. I also like how the progression on jake ended with 'improved, but still nonsensical to me and I don't get it'.

I have lock cleared (halfasleep, jacksonvirgo, fireisred)

I think I wanna lock clear mango or at least remove him from POE

my goal now is to clear at least one out of (KJQ, thimoth, jake, ming)

when I do that, I'll have a game winning POE for sure

exciting solving time, friends, we got this



(I'm captain planet btw)

Did you explain why you want to clear mango?

I'll check if you have already explained it.

quoted it at the top

that was followed by metadiving mango and noticing a lot of similarities in his idiosyncrasies, the very lowkey way he approaches mafia and the way he vibes like a pure soul throughout a game of mafia. it took me a while to get there and I can't be sure of it, but there's a profile here: very young player, vibes a bit like kawaiikame, and there are some small hints in his posting that pretty much all of them point to town.

I really don't understand it lmao

[Purplemango]

like Right now from what I see it, a big part of the reason is that he hasn't talked much, or done things to promote the game
But it doesn't make sense to me that scum would get to the point where this is what's happening

There is also his scum partner, in the worst case they can help with that

Is this make sense?

[Purplemango]

Yes
I'll specify this in the actual thing

[Purplemango]

Yea
Also then it'll make it easier for us to check the jake/jakcson thing if jake get eliminated

[Purplemango]

Yea
Also then it'll make it easier for us to check the jake/jakcson thing if jake get eliminated

hey mango you have two hammer options lmao.

Nooo

[Purplemango]

I don't wanna hammer him when he's not here to defend himself

[Purplemango]

No we absolutely have to chose the funniest option

[Purplemango]

LMAO

[Purplemango]

Good night!:)

[Purplemango]

I don't think we can eliminate gimli right now

[Purplemango]

Fire has kinda vanilla town vibe
But in general i don't have problem with it

[Purplemango]

I'm not sure, thats why i'm ok with it

[Purplemango]

Then he also will know we have roleblocker

[Purplemango]

reguesting fast night

I agree with that

[Purplemango]

YESSS

[Purplemango]

Shut up you're not even in the game (in a friendly way)

[Purplemango]

Glad you clarified, otherwise I might have thought differently

[Purplemango]

Thank you (are you ok with things like 'queen'?)

[Purplemango]

So thank you queen

[Purplemango]

I think its can work

[Purplemango]

And nobody replied to it too

[Purplemango]

This kill comes from someone specific. I can’t think of who yet but one in fire/asleep/thom.

:(((
But he can be right with that

[Purplemango]

Did you understood the reason for scumread me?

[Purplemango]

Should i try to get them to answer me

[Purplemango]

It kinda help us because now the other mason don't have bakeup

[Purplemango]

How jackson so confident on stuff
He's right but still

[Purplemango]

Yea probsbly

[Purplemango]

Nah you're good its mostly my fault

[Purplemango]

You can always take some time off if you need it
To organize your mind and such
Self care is good thing probably

[Purplemango]

Kinda forgot about it
Most of the things I can think of are along the lines of "I don't think it would make sense for me as scum, to do this and that" sorry for that

Anyway

First, the voting part (trying to explain better)
I don't think that a situation where, as scum, you are the tie-breaker and then do nothing. and hope that people will actually vote for the town is an effective thing
It would probably have been better to do something, or vote in the first place so that it would be someone else
In addition, it could have helped me (for example if I voted with you/jackson/jake) to be more of a town that actually does something

Second, that Jake got nightkilled
Considering he was my main scumread, and that I had no idea about the mason thing
Like, it's not really good for me because then I have to completely re-establish myself, and in my mind there was a possibility of voted him out + it puts me in a weirder situation

I have nothing to say about ming, because it still makes sense to me that he is town
I will try to think about scumreads, because I was mainly in defense mode

[Purplemango]

Is it make sense? For kay

[Purplemango]

ok i'm gonna go ahead and start looking more willing to lim you. i think you go tomorrow 100% if i go today whereas i could still have a 0.01% of worming my way out of being the default lim after you flip red. probably not a real chance at all but i'm gonna try.

I don't think you should, thom already think theres scum on me
After you were classified with me, it can be looking like you trying to make distance so you don't get vote out

[Purplemango]

I donn't think they expect you to bussing me tho

[Purplemango]

You can see it as reasonable things?

[Purplemango]

Or not completely bullshit

[Purplemango]

I'm trying to make myself more partnered with ming then with you

[Purplemango]

Yea?

[Purplemango]

Its sound like bad thing happend

[Purplemango]

But their reasoning is someone knew jake is mason and nightkill him, in this thing i would know before it

[Purplemango]

Its fine don't worry:)
Maybe i'll clarify myself

[Purplemango]

His explanation make kinda sense
I'm not sure how to make him change it

[Purplemango]

I think the other mason may be ming, is that make sense?

[Purplemango]

We could kill one and block the other next night maybe

[Purplemango]

Nightkill

[Purplemango]

Ok!^^

[Purplemango]

Ok, how about I bring it up as a possibility if someone ever makes a connection between us
Like "Haha maybe she's just sacrificing herself and trying to make you think I'm with her to save the other scum"

[Purplemango]

Maybe they'll get to it themselves

[Purplemango]

Sorry for not be active
I'll try to make ituseful

[Purplemango]

For sure will send actions
May take me some time

[Purplemango]

purplemqngo kill jacksonvirgo

[Purplemango]

Wait
Typo

[Purplemango]

*purplemango kill jacksonvirgo*

[Purplemango]

I'm dumb person
Anyway you got the idea

[Purplemango]

I'm ok with nightskip

[Purplemango]

I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG

[Purplemango]

I think i have a chance to make them not voting me

[Purplemango]

Ok not really

[Purplemango]

Sorry