Open 906 - Oh no, what am I gonna name the mafia PT???

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hewwo

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yep. familiar with the game and its variants obviously. but first time playing forum mafia.

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hi o7

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so how many games have you played here and have you been scum before?

lemme know if i sound scummy anyhow.

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haha okay good luck to us both.

i think my only 'game plan' atm is to try and put myself in the headspace that i really am town when posting in the main thread, trying to work things out. might be a good idea to use my posts in here to make notes of what 'town-me' is thinking when she posts, so i don't forget.

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but from scum perspective: our possible town PR teams are: Cop/Doctor, Tracker/Jailkeeper or Mason/Mason. worth keeping an eye out if anyone's dropping hints.

also, mod, does jailkeepers ability blocking also apply to the night kill?

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gotcha. good to know, thanks.

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is there any reason to claim anything if we're not put at e-1 or town calls a massclaim?

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my tentative plan for it i get e-1'd (subject to change based on gamestate obvs) is to claim cop to:
a) bait out real PRs to counter claim
b) claim to have no result from night 2 onwards (night 1 can be an innocent on a dead townie) to hopefully make town doubt anyone claiming to roleblocked after i'm limmed, since mafia seems to want town to think there's a roleblocker

as you say though, (a) at least is useless if it's masons so idk

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and i guess i'm VT if there's a massclaim i don't see any other option there really.

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i was considering no nightkill as well. ideally people might give away PRs by confidently pushing or defending someone they

think

they blocked or protected in the night. might be safer to just go for the kills though.

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town-me is having fun joking around in the thread. isn't suspecting anyone based on current interactions.

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i've been lurking here about a month waiting for a game. i've probably picked up some elements of site meta that i'd probably end of slipping if i try to play too dumb. i'm sure i can look dumb enough without trying too hard lol

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haha no worries. i'm tentatively glad i stuck around for this

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probably just random voting for now. mayyybe you came across as to keen to be included in the unserious 'colour alliance' but that's probably overthinking. either way better to not react to it/act like you don't think it's serious until someone says otherwise.

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hmm. ok this is more people than i'd expect to be voting for you this soon. have played with any of these guys before?

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i thiiiink you should still ignore it. maybe pick someone to be sus of in an unserious way that you could turn serious later if you need to. if you go e-1 though you should probably be annoyed or at least surprised by it. town wouldn't ignore that i think.

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town-me is definitely wary of the meme-man i think. that guy could be scum.

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not really sure what to post in the thread today. hard to get a vibe if the tone is shifting more serious/investigative or not.

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(town-thoughts) ok kjq could be on my list too for jumping on meme's alleged sus on jupiter. weird to follow along with such a sus guy.

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i really should probably post something i don't want to be seen as a lurker.

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posting for posterity that this is when i realised you're called 'awesome ming' not 'awesome memeing'. sorry man.

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ok honestly i'm just going to lean into being a bit annoying to get people to play a bit more if i can. my 'town' position is that it's better for me to be loudly wrong if it gets better players to start making more posts. and scumwise i'd rather take a bit of heat (hopefully not too much though) than purple be getting it. losing our roleblocker early is pretty likely to be no-win scenario for scum i feel like.

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this thread is going to become a madwoman's journal if i keep talking to myself like this lol

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*increasingly disturbing mumbling*

i am town i am town town is me i am town halfasleep is town town is me i am town i am town

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this thread is going to become a madwoman's journal if i keep talking to myself like this lol

Yea sorry
Right now as town i probbly have jake the wolfie as the most scum in my mind

town-me is thinking of jake as an annoying town player who's not contributing so that's perfect for us not looking aligned.

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also i wasn't trying to shade you for not being online i was making fun of myself for posting like a weirdo. no apology needed. only in the town thread am i trying to be passive-aggressive lol

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*increasingly disturbing mumbling*

i am town i am town town is me i am town halfasleep is town town is me i am town i am town

No way i think someone named halfasleep is actually town here

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well that didn't show up as intended. ah well

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i think if you right click and go 'open image in tab' it'll show up

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:)

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thank you king

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okay this is the most baseless gut-check but i think if we've got masons it could be jake paired woth either black or jackson. i have no reason to believe this they just have the most 'could be talking in another thread' vibes so far. i really think jackson could be a PR regardless of setup but i have no real reason to believe this i'm just spitballing based on nothing.

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ok zzz i looked at purplemango's past games and i think he actually had less trouble getting into the game as scum than as town

oh hell yeah this is what we like to see lol

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well operation 'be annoying' is starting to get results it seems.

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this rules i love to lie

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okay i'm thinking i should draft up a post of reads in here before finding a good time to debut it in the main thread.

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SCUM-ISH:

awesomeming327:

honestly a mainly vibes-based read but tbh the vibes are off. a high-handed attitude, 'scumreading' players based on jokes or failing arbitrary tests, gives the impression that he wants to steer the direction of the game but none of his thoughts look real to me sorry.

KayJayQueue:

much softer read than above but got bad vibes from her defensive attitude when i poked her a little. that poke was based on her vote looking like it was following ming's opinion but my gut is saying they're probably not partnered so i'm doubting this a lot even as i type it lol.

NEUTRAL:

JupiterXV:

iso looks surprisingly good despite the number of filler/joke posts. every post engaging with the game looks pretty reasonable to me. might just be biased though since we seem to share some reads so bleh.

fireisredsir:

i got absolutely nothing here. post more imo.

JacksonVirgo:

same as above

Purplemango:

same as above times two. please post, people.

TOWN-ISH:

Jake The Wolfie:

i find his (thus far) non-contributing posting style irritating but i think he looks more like town playing his own game and keeping his cards hidden while not caring if he's annoying anyone, than scum just trying to be unhelpful.

Black:

hasn't said all that much yet but all her posts look good to me. every post after RVS have been pretty solid questions that look like sincere attempts to poke reactions out of them to read them better. also she went for me in RVS which is great because i love attention. heavily biased townread.

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purple let me know if you're okay with me posting the above at some point. i don't want to look like i'm completely overlooking you but let me know if you want me to change how i'm talking about you.

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ok zzz i looked at purplemango's past games and i think he actually had less trouble getting into the game as scum than as town

oh hell yeah this is what we like to see lol

It means he see me as scum or town?
I didn't really get his post

if i'm reading it right they think you play more engaged with the game as scum so they're reading your low postcount as townish.

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yeah lol don't engage with that at all. if their attention is drifing away from you let it.
you should definitely figure out something to say about something though. i can imagine a world where town can't reach a consensus on anyone by day's end and just ends up kicking the lurkiest player.

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yeah go for it if that helps you get involved in the thread. i don't want us to interact too much d1 but we shouldn't ignore each other either.

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definitely feel free to disagree with me some if it helps you springboard into your own fake reads or lines of thinking,

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vote for whoever town-you wants to vote for. staying on black is fine if you give a plausible reason to be reading her rn.

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if you were still thinking about going for jake you could use disagreeing with my read on him to transition into voting for him over a couple of posts that would probably look okay.

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VERY funny if ming is not gonna say anything to my reads after demanding them. maybe he's typing his own effortpost but it's so funny if he's just gonna dip and make this easy for me.

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looks okay i think i can believe that
(also i'm starting to like the look of this votecount a lot more hehehe)

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mannnn i wish i knew how to predict the pace of the thread a bit better. i feel like i've got some momentum going to get people arguing and move the game a bit then everyone goes quiet whyyyyyy

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ah fuck lol

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go for it it's just a matter of making your bs look like you really believe it probably.

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ah well the gamers might have me here lol. we'll have to wait for a couple more people to get back to the thread and weigh in but it's not looking great for me. it's definitely better me than you but i'd really like to get through one night to thin town a bit. i don't love your chances if it's 1v7...

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Tell me when you think its too much

i wish I knew lol. i've no idea if either of us are posting good at all

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yeah i'm just gonna keep playing it like i'm playing it. don't wanna look like i'm changing my behaviour in response to being read.

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i mean i don't think it's very illogical that i could be limmed. someone has to go and there's no sure thing we can count on to get voted instead of us. a strong persuasive push on me could get me out easy i think. i'm not taking a defeatist attitude about this i'm gonna fight to stay in but we've got to be ready for the possibility as a team.

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well, game on i guess lol

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yes black let's goooooo

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my only regret is ming is going to look hella townie when i get chucked. you're going to have to shoot him but maybe not night 1. if there's a doctor or jailkeeper there's a good chance they'll target him i think.

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yeaaaaah i don't think there's a world where i can back down now riding this train to the end babyyyyyyyyyy

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okay so it feels like black and fireisred don't want to vote for me. jackson, jupiter and ming mean it. i can't tell if jake is going to stick with this or if he's mainly trying to poke reactions out of me and others. kjq is probably deciding my fate today, which is a bit of a problem considering i've been spuriously scumreading her lol. doubly a problem because she might be my best shot to get anyone other than me eliminated. staying on ming for now but it feels like no one wants to bite.

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note to self: stop ending sentences with 'i guess' it's too petulant. i want to look a little tilted here but i'm overdoing it i think

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combination of jackson, jupiter and probably jake being pretty good players it seems and ming being tilted lol

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so focused on colours and star signs... didn't see the j-names coming smh

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ngl i'm having a lot of fun rn. happy my first game isn't even a little boring.

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it is but i don't want to be too defensive on every single point. could get into 'she's tilted because we're right for the wrong reasons' territory maybe. if ming or someone else tries to push that any further i definitely will make it an issue though.

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ok that much from you is probably okay it gives you an in to voting ming if town actually turns on him but don't defend me much more than that. we want to avoid being linked with each other at all costs especially if i'm not long for this mortal coil.

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okay okay i can live with 'this looks like town vs town' but it does mean there's almost no way i'm getting ming out here. i really don't want to go for kjq since her voting me back could put me in a very bad spot and i don't want to go for jake since i townread him. it'd be really awesome if someone started scumreading one of my neutrals in a persuasive way. i'd love to get rid of jackson but that's probably a pipe dream lol

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i'd like to see how fire responds to me asking about their kay read but yeah i'm not going for them while they're vocally pro-keeping me around.
i do think there's a world where jake keeps posting nonsense enough that i can plausibly abandon my townread but we'll see how it goes.

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ok that's the most obviously town response imaginable i don't see fire ever getting limmed.

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i think i changed my mind again

VOTE: jake the wolfie

everything's coming up milhouse

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oh yeah fire has to be a nightkill at some point for sure unless they really end up third-scumming for us.

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no the possible setups are in the main thread OP. it's mason/mason, tracker/jailkeeper or cop/doctor and everyone else but us is vanilla town.

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and to clear for town there's 9 possible setups not 3 so don't end up giving away that you know a cop flip means there's a doctor or anything

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boy these vote counts are FLUCTUATING huh

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uhhhh if you can justify it well enough sure but i'm not sure it looks good to put him at e-1 with so much time left on the clock. especially since you're still the lurkiest player so don't wanna look like you're jumping in just to vote someone out i think. maybe just replying to ming's question with why you're sus on jake but not committing a vote just yet is the move.

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go for it

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ok well black backed down you can hold off the vote

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but you should definitely join the conversation and give your opinion on jake here. no need to be as vitriolic as me but you gotta be saying something about what's happening in the thread

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alright i'm off for the night catch you laterz

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Meta meta meta meta


I’m so over meta.

Meta this, meta that, have you ever meta girl before?

This is still one of the best posts on the site

lmao

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ok i'm loving how the thread is looking rn. lots of noise and pointed fingers at anyone but us lol. not sure how to smoothly re-enter here after leaving in a strop last night but i'll think of something.

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jake and black really doing work for us you love to see it

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sorry i didn't wait for you to be online to run my mention of you by you it just felt like it would've been unnatural to overlook you there.

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VOTE: Black

LMAO

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jupiter scumreading you it seems like. hopefully that doesn't get any traction.

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i'm gonna engage with him on it a little i hope you don't mind.

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what is even happening in this game this is wild

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what are they fighting about?????

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oh hello black. kinda worried the thread was gonna stay stunlocked for a while after all that nonsense lol

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it's been popping off

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very strange choices are being made lol

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god only knows

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i guess i don't really want to chuck jupiter if it's going to be like he seems really upset for real

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ok i guess i posted the best olive branch i could without breaking character but it kinda looks like he's too worked up to notice or read it

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but at the same time it's kinda shitty to make it so nobody wants to vote for you because you're so upset and they don't want to make things worse it kinda breaks the game

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idk just feels bad all around i guess

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i think i regret pretending to get so tilted with jake it seems like it was an effective play but maybe it contributed to the tenor of the game getting harsher idk. just feel like this could have gone different

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anyway purple i totally get it if you're wanting to step away from the game for now since the tone got so negative. but if you are wanting to stay involved you probably shouldn't ignore black asking you a direct question

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ok i'll shut up in here for a bit i'm clearly posting too much

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UNVOTE: black
I forgot i voted for her in like the first thing

Do you have any reads?

here about 3 hours ago. it might not be that urgent but jake has brought up that no one really engages with black's questions at all and you're in that category

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again sorry for mentioning you directly but i didn't want to be asked 'hey why did you leave purple out in this' by someone else who had noticed

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yeah no need to look rushed about it but i think it's townie to engage with players who want to engage with you

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yeah looks like dragon closed it (hopefully temporarily?) presumably because he needs to make a mod ruling on All That

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oh boy it's me on 6 out of 8 pages god i really talk too much lmao

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nah i really can't fault you for having a hard time engaging what with how things were today. anyhoo i should probably take this as a prompt to actually try to sleep so see you on the other side pardner o7

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feel bad that jupiter had such a bad time here

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also feeling nervous gamewise. town replace-ins seem like bad news for scum generally. i don't want a fresh unbiased set of eyes to look over this web of confusion lol

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aw, i'm sorry if you're not having a good time. is there anything i can do to help you out here?

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sorry in the more general sense. i'd like it if you could stay and enjoy the game so it's unfortunate if you can't. but you should do what you need to do for you absolutely

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ok i truly cannot predict when this thread is going to shut up or not. i get like 5 new posts at a time coming in when i'm typing something up then dead silence when i'm done. sitting here thinking 'oh shit was that it? is this the post i finally slipped up in and everyone sees i'm scum now?'
probably just funny timing but it's paranoia-inducing stuff lol

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boy ten days is a long time huh

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i don't know how normal the amount of replacing out in this game is compared to others, but i am wondering if day 1 was shorter people wouldn't burn out as easily when there's a lot being said but no real information to work with idk

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quite simply: amongus

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yeah i think like neutral or 'i'm just not getting anything from them'

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gotta respect jackson's gut feeling in this game. they're absolutely right about me even if they have doubts about it

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I'm just kidding, I'm a communist

nice

I'm wanting to townread halfasleep for correctly townreading black as well so I'll give it a weak townie atm.

NICE

solidified a townread on KJQ for her subsequent posts on page 6.

not so nice :(

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I kinda think the scumteam is jake and virgo tho

I'm extremely confident that halfasleep is a townie

Not suprised scum would stick to their agenda

now this is what we all love to see!

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was anxious about losing black but gimli is a VERY promising replacment lmao

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thomith currently the bigger worry probably. no way to predict which way they're gonna lean from what they've posted.

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I like jake's self vote shenanigans on page 11-12 and I understand the scumread on black

I think mango doesn't look so good by the way they were reacting to it. felt like someone not knowing what to say:

ruh roh

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can we flip mango?

RUH ROH

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RAGGY

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ok i think i've established a personality that doesn't want to be easily lead by others so i can probably resist joining a purple wagon without it looking too bad

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but i could easily see you becoming the compromise-lim here if no one can reach another consensus. should i be going harder on jackson?

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i'm really thinking this isn't a masons game. if it is, they've done a really good job of hiding their partnership. we probably have an investigative/blocker setup and i think if we lose roleblocker D1 we're truly just fucked unless i'm really lucky

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mmm maybe i can try to push for kay with gimli and end up 'compromising' on jackson? i think fire wants jackson so that's 3. kay won't vote jackson. i don't know if you can believably move on from jake if you do come back to thread. don't know what ming or thomith will do. jake's voting for you but it's hard to predict which way he'll go in the end. urgh. hard game.

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purple i think at this point you should immediately hammer if any townie goes to e-1 at any point. we still benefit a lot from you surviving even one lim.

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holy shit could i really get kay today? is gimli going to get blamed for being scum sheeping my misreads? can this actually work im freakin losin it rn bestie

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I might be clearing scum

don't worry about it bro

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situation feels very liquid rn. genuinely no idea how the hammer might fall here.

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yeah i mean i said this at a point where you were getting pretty heavily sussed. my thought was that if it was going that anyway giving yourself away might be acceptable if it meant they couldn't do anything about it until the next day.

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but they've all managed to get lost in the weeds doubting their reads on you so i have no idea how close to being limmed you might actually be lol

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truly very hard to stay on top of anticipating where 7 other people's thoughts are going to go

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i think if i was town i'd be having a pretty hard time figuring you out myself lol

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but that's also what could make you a likely compromise lim if enough people settle on 'well let's just flip him and find out'

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oh yeah i doubt it too lol i just had a crazy moment where it seemed like gimli was ready to drink the kjq kool-aid for a hot minute lmao

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but in general, yeah, i think it's good for you to look like you're trying to participate more. i don't think you need to try to change up your posting style it's good for your persona to stay consistent and people seem to find it confusing, which helps us more than it hurts us i think.

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Also i don't really think we could get kay this day

ok hey do you could play it like you let kay and jackson 'convince' you to vote gimli with them? not my first choice but the important thing is that it's a townie out. also ends up looking bad for them hopefully

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if you'd find it helpful to workshop responses to mine or anyone else's questions in here before posting in main, feel free to ask anytime

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ah, ok. i did wonder if you weren't in your first language. you should definitely write the actual wording of things yourself (the difference in our voices would stand out if i helped write too much) but we can definitely figure out what you wanna say first or you could post in here and we could talk it through/make changes if you think it'd help you.

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Yes

ok i think you could totally get on gimli's wagon right now. he's scumread jackson, kay for a while and now ming after i have. you can start acting like you suspect some version of 'looks like you're trying to pocket halfasleep by copying her scumreads and making them look like you're thinking about them yourself'. i think kay and jackson would like that and try to get you on side. does this sound good?

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yeah i think i can get there pretty easily if fire and gimli go with me.

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then if you're on gimli we'll have two 3-vote wagons and the others will have to choose which townie to mislim :P

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it's possible but i don't think gimli will scumread you just for scumreading him. not the vibe i get from his personality but i could be wrong. any move we make has the potential to backfire in different ways because we're dealing with people and how they react which you never truly predict. we just have to go with our best guess.

i think it'll look okay if you keep the image of not being confident but saying you feel you need to vote for someone at this point and gimli's focus on following me on my scumreads looks weird to you.

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VOTE: Gimli

Meh

purple? mango? you in here? it might be Go Time. do you think you can justify taking gimli to e-1 based on the reasons i've suggested?

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god gimli is putting in WORK for the mafia here lol. i'd almost be sorry to boot him.

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haha that miiiight be a little obvious lol

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i was thinking like jake for the nightkill since it doesn't really point to anyone in particular

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well we can talk through the nightkill once we actually get past this elimination.

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it seems slightly patronising, yeah. probably influenced by your age compared to most of the thread? (i don't actually know everyone's ages but based on vibes)
that said, it's no problem for us people wanna overlook you a bit for being younger :P

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i think if you've got a reason to go for jackson go for it. i get that you're not on board with the gimli plan so don't feel pressured okey dokey good niiiight

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that's definitely not impossible. good thought there. makes me want to shoot jake ven more imo

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yeah this is definitely a believable solve. feel like we should kill jake tonight and roleblock someone like fire or thomith. if we're wrong about masons, i feel like that's where the PRs could be hiding

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gimli kinda seems like he's very confident in what he feels, then finds way to justify it from there. looks sorta like he's been thinking backwards. but hey: it's great for us lol

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are you talking about ming here?

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then yeah i think this makes sense, and sounds right to me.
are you thinking you want to looks sceptical of the ming wagon, in the the event he ends up today's mislim?

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gotcha seems like a good plan

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time to let the chips fall where they may i guess

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Yea
Also then it'll make it easier for us to check the jake/jakcson thing if jake get eliminated

hey mango you have two hammer options lmao.

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i think you need to go for gimli here you've been too resistant to ming for it to look natural now.

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ok this would be a funny time to hammer gimli to look partnered with thomith lol

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that's perfectly reasonable lol no reason to make decisions based on what would make me laugh

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*chanting irresponsibly* do it do it do it

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ok well i guess it's wait and see time at this point. g'night and we'll see what tomorrow brings

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i'd also be potentially interested in an EU group. i wonder if there's a case for a general TTRPG group-finding thread. i feel like there could be non-insignificant overlap between folks who want to play forum mafia and folks who wish they had people to play rpgs with.

ok well i guess it's wait and see time at this point. g'night and we'll see what tomorrow brings

Am so confused. Are you European but sleep at US times? Or what

i'm just a frequent insomniac lol. don't worry about it

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I don't think we can eliminate gimli right now

welp lmao

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absolutely wild scenes to come back to. RIP gimli. good night sweet prince. what da hell were you thinking though dude

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so i'm leaning towards kill jake/roleblock fire for tonight. what are you thinking, mango?

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who do you think could be a PR if we're wrong about the masons?

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i mean better to use and maybe lose it than end up losing it without getting to use it.

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Purplemango roleblocks fireisredsir

Purplemango shoots Jake The Wolfie

are we good with this?

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reguesting fast night

(mango don't feel pressured if you'd prefer a longer break)

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reguesting...

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*thread title changed to reguesting*

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i mispelled 'requesting' lol

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YYYYYYYYYYEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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mango you the goat don't let anyone tell you different

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i would never say no lol

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thinking i'm gonna move jackson into my townreads but not say that i think they're the mason unless they ask directly

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hope for today is to get ming out. then 'sheep' jackson tomorrow, hopefully on thomith, since i was 'wrong' today

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yeah i'm feeling pretty good about where we're at rn

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biggest danger is jackson sees right through me.
but worst case scenario: i don't think either of us are getting looked at first if the other flips red.

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maybe it's time to stop pretending

sweating a little ngl

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I have a cracked solve guys, I’ve done it.


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bruh

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yeah today could be rough. let's hope people's thoughts go where we want them to.

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shiiiiit

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possibly process of elimination + experience associating certain scumstyles with certain personalities?

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it probably wouldn't be out of character to keep asking why people think you're mafia, especially since you actually don't know. don't push it to hard and switch to looking for your own scumread once you have, though.

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maybe we shouldn't have killed jake but in my heart i don't regret it lol

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i guess that's what an experienced player brings to the table.
then again, kay got the solve first so i think they've just Got Us.