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Post Post #1 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:35 am

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I am here and I am alive and I am whole.

I am also sick and sound like a 50 year old smoker.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:04 pm

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If I’m town, I’m going to try to play a measured game.

If I’m scum I’m going to post my guts out.
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Post Post #3 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:17 pm

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I guess I should actually try to be anonymous but it’s so hard not to tease everyone all the time.
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Post Post #4 (isolation #3) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:05 pm

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lol @ kagerou.
Might start out by claiming policy there.
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Post Post #5 (isolation #4) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:07 pm

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As a joke.
And then because they’re a miller I should town bin them if they claim miller.
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Post Post #6 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:07 pm

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If they don’t claim miller I will be mad.
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Post Post #7 (isolation #6) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:08 pm

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Even if they aren’t a miller.
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Post Post #8 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:23 am

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I don’t think Cabd or LLD is done yet.
Both are going to be in this game. Notty strongly hinted at it.

I think anon games appeal pretty heavily to Petapan.
FF probably isn’t satisfied with how last game went so possibly here.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:26 am

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Are done yet, not is.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #9) » Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:32 am

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Dunno about spiffeh,
Gypyx, firebringer. Firebringer, I usually don’t see them in anon games. Dunno about Titus. Dunno about Pooky, I don’t see him much in anon games tbh.

Syrana, Bork, Marci unlikely.

I think Koba is on a bunch of people’s black lists.
Nobody can be assed to black list enchant. Except Peta, so if they’re here enchant is not.

I dunno if alisae is blacklisted by anyone.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #10) » Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:34 am

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Fyi, you seem to have left the edit button available GIF.

Oh, it seems I’m the mod.
Huh.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #11) » Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:37 am

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I’ll still refrain from editing the notes for the sake of veracity.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #12) » Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:38 am

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Yeah, if Titus saw this game they would probably join barring life circumstance.
The game closed rather fast.
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Post Post #15 (isolation #13) » Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:42 am

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Kilga said they would be here so I’ll believe them.
I’ve never actually played with kilga before. @_@, so, that’ll be interesting.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #14) » Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:46 am

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Gotcha, still.
I’ll try not to edit or delete posts.
It goes against my irrational sensibilities.
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Post Post #17 (isolation #15) » Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:08 am

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I have decided on a brilliant strategy that will make me utterly unfindable as either alignment.
What I shall do is,
I shall read what people post and not what I post. With this I have turned the world axis, everything Topsy-turvey, an earthquake in the metaphorical atmosphere.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #16) » Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:11 am

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I am the smartest person I know.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #17) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:35 pm

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Whelp. see this game on Wednesday.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #18) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:26 am

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I’ll probably have a few additional questions about my first ability when I can comprehend it lol.
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Post Post #21 (isolation #19) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:49 am

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Okay, for my other ability,
Every night I can target a player, this leaves a flower by them. The player that visited them has a flower appear the following night through mod PM
I am not informed of this, so it’s up to them if they mention it.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #20) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:20 am

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Got it.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:33 am

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The flavor is very spot on *thumbs up*
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Post Post #26 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:34 am

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Still going to immediately inform everyone that I’m some kind of automatic miller out the gate.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #23) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:11 am

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The flowers are a give away, so I’ll have to be careful with how I present that, probably at the end of the day. Since it appears somewhat insidious.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:16 pm

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I dunno you guys, I think ff might still be in this.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:53 am

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Huh. Still not open. Well, that's good. Work has been very busy today. So I would've missed it.
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Post Post #30 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:56 pm

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If I get investigated do they receive a message that I'm town and another one that I'm scum?
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Post Post #32 (isolation #27) » Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:36 am

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Thanks.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #28) » Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:21 am

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Are there players that have a different account than their role combination besides Marisa? Or did you announce the only player that had that happen to them?
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Post Post #35 (isolation #29) » Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:28 am

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Got it
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Post Post #36 (isolation #30) » Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:47 am

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Clown piece is fireisred or lukewarm.
Larvae is spiffy.
Heaven lady is probably gypyx.
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Post Post #37 (isolation #31) » Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:29 am

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Ichirin is weird.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #32) » Fri Mar 08, 2024 9:03 am

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Everyone knows I’m a meanie-weenie.

Damnit.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #33) » Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:12 am

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Or maybe reisen is gypyx.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #34) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:10 pm

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In a sudden reversal, them sharing their feelings on their alignment color is tactical.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #35) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:43 pm

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Danflor?
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Post Post #42 (isolation #36) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:43 pm

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I’ll go ahead and guess Danflor.
Or stilted scum.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #37) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:35 am

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LLD, Petapan, Ydra.

Probably LLD.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #38) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:47 am

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My instinct is always to put my foot down here.
It's one of the more infuriating things about me.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #39) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:18 am

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Yep, that’s lld.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #40) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:29 am

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They’re threading the needle. /:
I know they hate when I point that out.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #41) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:40 am

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I suppose how I approach lld is pretty bad faith.
I look at how they play and what it accomplishes and then assume they’re scum trying to survive instead of town trying to survive.
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Post Post #48 (isolation #42) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:38 am

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It's been a little, but I'm starting to think that Kagerou is firebringer.
I'm not sure though.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #43) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:17 am

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I feel like Larvae's approach is a little tainted by politics here.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #44) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:22 am

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I'm the flower on the panda's head.
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Post Post #51 (isolation #45) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:18 pm

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Hmm.
Petapan/prism.

But their play doesn’t really fit either player.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #46) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:19 pm

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The volatility is a lot to deal with. I hope neither of them are scum.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #47) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:19 pm

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Knowing my luck they both are.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #48) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:26 pm

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I don’t really think Syrana’s type of humor fits Ichi. Maybe Notty, they can get pretty tilted when they get voted.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #49) » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:23 am

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Not sure if that’s a scum or town mistake from koichi, I suppose it could be neither and they just didn’t realize how unbalanced it looked.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #50) » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:23 am

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Day vig rxn tests make me cringe.
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Post Post #57 (isolation #51) » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:29 am

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Guess I’ll wait for koshi to spin their spin.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #52) » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:30 am

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I wonder how many scum points I’ll get for never following up with tenshi’s check in.

I am currently coughing up my lungs and had to take another day off work. Waiting at urgent care for a check in. Sigh.
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Post Post #59 (isolation #53) » Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:46 pm

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Oh dear lord it’s mathblade my mortal enemy and player that seems to tunnel me every game regardless of what alignment they are.
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Post Post #60 (isolation #54) » Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:46 pm

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Nooooo
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Post Post #61 (isolation #55) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:43 pm

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Man.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #56) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:44 pm

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I just wanted to play mafia.
But apparently, my tongue is too acrid for it.
and I'm not sensitive enough to people's needs.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #57) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:49 pm

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I'll take a break after this game
*deep breath*

I don't think it healthy or wise to engage with angry LLD.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #58) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:51 pm

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Oh, they're not replacing out.
Lovely.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #59) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:00 pm

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To me, we kind of all see things from a different perspective.
For example, I thought it was kind of Boppy of me more than condescending.
Likewise, our language is not always as precise as we'd like. I don't put as much care into my words as I probably should.

Like for example, they said to Koichi "you're better than this" which is what I would call an argument where you're saying someone is playing at a less intelligent level than they would if they were town.

it's offensive to Koichi if they're town, but not so much if they're scum. You can say it's insulting to their intelligence, but you can also say it's an expectation or hope that they'll rise to the level of your expectations.

It's very much a perspective thing.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #60) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:01 pm

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Mostly though, those kinds of comments are absorbed by a person but they diffuse it or let it go.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #61) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:51 pm

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Hmm. I wonder why Aya thinks Koichi is town (jesus christ I moved on fast).
In my experience with mathblade they kind of do this characteristic hyper weird connection posting as either alignment.

Also, they won points from me for reminding me digging through the trash in, I think, Pokemon red. Though I don't know if that was an actual reference or not. It was a pleasant nostalgia either way.

Like, the previous time I played with them they got turbo eliminated and spent most of the dead thread talking about how their posts were designed to mislead people. ...I...Don't really see how this game is different beyond some.

Well I can't read mathblade is the real problem I think.

Maybe their more relaxed games and posting and their fear about trying to eliminate aya point to town them, even if the rest doesn't.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #62) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:05 pm

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Ichirin seems to be taking this wagon thing quite personally.

If there’s one thing I can relate to it’s being hyper defensive and angry about being suspected, irrational though it may be.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #63) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:11 pm

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Meta would be nice here, but alas.

I must make do. They can easily fake this, but they are right about one thing. I don’t have much of a case on them.
Which I why I wasn’t voting them. ~_~
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Post Post #70 (isolation #64) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:38 pm

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I definitely need a reset, I’m doing the thing I forgot the word for, where you stay up all night thinking about social stuff and what you should have said and shouldn’t have said and so on and so forth.
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Post Post #71 (isolation #65) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:49 pm

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Ah, rumination. That’s the word.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #66) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:12 am

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I’m too sick to vent about how sick I am.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #67) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:12 am

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Nausea? Really? ANTIBIOTICS WHERE ARE YOU?
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Post Post #74 (isolation #68) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:13 am

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Oh that’s the nausea of course!
I found them!

Fuck.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #69) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:13 am

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I am not too sick to vent about how sick I am, that’s a good sign.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #70) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:59 am

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I’m not an investigate.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #71) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:03 am

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I can’t think of there’s such a thing as a hyperbole metaphor but I really wanna know if there is one now.
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Post Post #78 (isolation #72) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:03 am

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Is…is math the type that wouldn’t read that kind of thing.

I feel like they probably would.
But like.
How do I know, know. You know?
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Post Post #79 (isolation #73) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:08 am

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3ps and math are like best buddies. They love doing that speculation stuff.

Or they do it.
I do not know if they actually enjoy doing it.
But they do it a lot.
Which Aya might not have in her head of facts, but the shut down is fine, given I’m only interested in this discourse because I’m curious of the true/false dichotomy betweennwhether they read the template or not, or are going to try to fake not knowing when they did.

Basically, a bone to gnaw on for me. I prefer true false statements, I figure I’ll eventually come to the conclusion on one of them. As long as I ask the right question and the t/r is AI for mafia/town.

Pretty sure unless they totally flub this response I’m getting nothing from this tho, lol.
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Post Post #80 (isolation #74) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:10 am

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*stares very hard*

Nope, don’t see it.
It’s sort of out of character for them not to go off on a tangent but I’ve encountered mb scum more than mb town I think, so I don’t think the direction they took is…super ai.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #75) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:18 am

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Huh, happy scum day MB/Titus.
Dunno if Titus is in this game
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Post Post #82 (isolation #76) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:41 am

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I am having a very hard time figuring out what ichirin’s deal is.

I’m getting a mix.
Of inexperienced me from like 8 years ago, when I was *especially* defensive and called everyone stupid for misreading me. In less indirect terms but the whole thing was definitely up there. This is, as Aya points out, political malpractice. It’s not a good idea to antagonize three different judges. Even though, sometimes you really really really want them to see things your way.
Or almost, unless you post as much as me and really twist hard.

You can, and it’s lame to do it, just kind of exhaust someone into an easier elim.

They don’t quite have the gas for that but I think they’re close.

But I’m not sure I’m actually any closer for me changing my mind on them.

I think they’re slightly likely to be town.
I think their role even if used by a very good player, has like, a statistical backdrop that is near insurmountable.
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Post Post #83 (isolation #77) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:42 am

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Now really doesn’t seem like a good time to talk about how useful their role could be.
As if that was a selling point in a car dealer ship.
Because the roles is people man, the roles is people!
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Post Post #84 (isolation #78) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:49 am

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Sakura? Kilga?
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Post Post #85 (isolation #79) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:21 pm

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Math blade does the game reading thing as scum too if I recall.
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Post Post #86 (isolation #80) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:28 pm

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Pull back. bell.
You’re kind of screwing up in fever mode.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #81) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:03 am

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Highly recommend. 4 am coughing fit with a mother nearby that cares about you.

Sad though it may be. I shall count this blessing.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #82) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:09 am

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It is mildly ironic that the actual reaction test I tried went unnoticed re asking them if they were aware of the template.
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Post Post #89 (isolation #83) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:22 am

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This ichirin fellow is a drama llama.
Or they’re playing mafia. Like right now.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #84) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:47 am

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Alisae?

Maybe.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #85) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:49 am

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I’m just pretty closed off because I’m afraid of getting my feelings hurt math.

Mafia is a lot. Thanks for town binning me inexplicably though! They’re right I am very stubborn town.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #86) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:34 am

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I just realized they implied I was a sociopath lol.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #87) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:34 am

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Well, no harm no foul. I don’t take issue with it.
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Post Post #94 (isolation #88) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:04 pm

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It’s fallacious of me to ask ichirin to pick a lane on whether they think it’s good for the game if you’re eliminated or not before raising to the bait from a clown.

Because obviously we’re contradictory folk here. All o us.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #89) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:46 pm

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I’m not really getting better.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #90) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:27 pm

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I hope they’re happy.
I just wanted to back seat while in pneumonia brain mode.

I’m not in love with it.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #91) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:04 pm

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I’m sad I’ve never really articulated that scum may play faithfully to a cover story before.

That could save me a lot of time later.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #92) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:21 pm

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Aya’s handler:
Code name: Mathblade.

Yeah, that’s real. Why not
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Post Post #99 (isolation #93) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:16 am

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I’m actually less confident in ichi town just because they fell off.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #94) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:19 am

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I am like 60% better and I’m going to work.

Well, at least I’ve been fever free awhile, the cough is barely any better though. It sucks.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #95) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:10 am

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Please shoot Aya for unfriending me on Facebook.
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Post Post #102 (isolation #96) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:10 am

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This is a joke, I do not have Facebook.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #97) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:22 am

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Why are they so mad.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #98) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:22 am

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Why is everyone so mad!?
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Post Post #105 (isolation #99) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:13 am

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I haven’t said much about Aya since the thread lock.

So, I dunno. Why they’re hoping an ice pick lands on my head irl.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #100) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:19 am

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I know I should confront and request that Aya does not actively wish for my death in thread, but they’re posting fine and do you know what would cause them not to post fine?
Doing that.
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Post Post #107 (isolation #101) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:20 am

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Let it slide Bell.
Let it slide!
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Post Post #108 (isolation #102) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:34 pm

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Sounds like Sanae might have something up their sleeve to get past Aya,
I’ll take one of those please.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #103) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:03 am

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Blah.
Bleh!
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Post Post #110 (isolation #104) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:25 am

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I know that since I’m town I should be taking control here.

But I am not.
I’m too curious.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #105) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:25 am

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What will math, LLD and ichirin do?
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Post Post #112 (isolation #106) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:33 am

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2279 is a different attitude than the one they’ve taken with me.

I should ‘know. ‘
But they’ve got fog of war.

This is a note, not a resentment comment believe it or not.
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Post Post #113 (isolation #107) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:44 am

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Woah, maybe I’m wrong about that being MB,
They shouldn’t have read that game.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #108) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:26 am

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Heat of the moment but these both kinda feel like town wagons to me.
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Post Post #115 (isolation #109) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:53 am

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Getting extreme Deja vu from Aya’s play here compared to dance game.

Same do nothing into pointed affixed play at the end complete with credit for ichirin when they flip town. Even though they did not spend an appreciable amount of time working on them, they just say they are because they like credit.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #110) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:53 am

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Naturally if I say anything they will bite my fucking head off.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #111) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:13 am

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That one was a little bitter!
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Post Post #118 (isolation #112) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:25 am

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Watch Clownpiece
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Post Post #119 (isolation #113) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:31 am

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I’m depressed they flipped town even though I probably much thought they would.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #114) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:52 am

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I’m so out of my depth with LLD, lol.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #115) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:38 am

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Yep!
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Post Post #123 (isolation #116) » Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:39 am

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The mood swings between excitement for this game and dreading this game is…interesting.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #117) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:25 am

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Let’s see what the new day brings.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #118) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:08 am

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Went home from work early cause nausea.
Parked, promptly threw up in my car and on my clothes.
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Post Post #126 (isolation #119) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:27 am

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And another vomit for good measure.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #120) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:27 am

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I am not going to work tomorrow. I just need to focus on getting better. Thought I could just take it easy at work, but, nope.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #121) » Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:15 pm

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Slept all day.
Burning feeling in my stomach all day.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #122) » Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:24 am

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I dunno what to make of the redirect. Larvae was doing fine you don’t redirect on the person that’s doing fine.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #123) » Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:48 am

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. Both my parents have it and my stomach is still off 3 days later, had a gagging episode last night. Which means I still have to be on zofran.

This is a long ass tunnel.
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Post Post #131 (isolation #124) » Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:10 pm

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Nobody could be so devious, it’s like saying Santa klaus isn’t real.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #125) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:45 pm

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Did I lose my spell card shot?
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Post Post #133 (isolation #126) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:48 pm

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@Gif,
@ff: is my watcher ability used up?

Separate question: I can self watch two nights in a row?
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Post Post #134 (isolation #127) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:34 pm

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Situationally it doesn’t make sense how aya?
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Post Post #135 (isolation #128) » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:44 pm

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3960: Aya, that means you don’t know, you know?
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Post Post #136 (isolation #129) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:09 pm

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If Sanae flips town, I was caught for the wrong reasons.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #130) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:27 pm

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This has been a weird game where I’ve been able to see the town in all the wagons we’ve had but stuff got in the way of me being confident enough to derail it in combination with lacking better ideas.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #131) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:29 pm

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By stuff I mean, just as I’m not confident about their alignment, I’m not confident enough in their alignment to stop the wagon either.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #132) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:35 am

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I really fucked up with associatives on Sanae though.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #133) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:18 am

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It's not like me to make those kind of fundamental mistakes. I seldom fuck up on associations.

Well, it's the morning and I'm finally moving out of my illness phase.

I still feel tired and my stomach is still wonky. But the cough is almost gone.

I think I'm just going to think/speculate a little on whether my understanding of the game needs a rehash.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #134) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:23 am

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So Koishi and Aya were on their way out the door.
When something miraculous happened.
Spiffeh died out of nowhere.

Unlike other scum players, I'm starting to get deep down that Cabd/LLD look at the game very differently than I do, especially as scum. They're very results oriented. While I'm mainly controlled by my fear and insecurity as scum. They tend to evaluate their chances and take steps to remedy it.

LLD did not try to hide who they were. This, based on their own conception of themselves cut their own lifespan in half.
They tend to think that people fundamentally do not allow them to live long once they know who they are purely out of fear of their scum game.

It is a rather obnoxious handicap isn't it?
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Post Post #142 (isolation #135) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:30 am

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The problem I have with LLD if they're sober here, rather what I'm having trouble getting past is simply how do you get over the fear of roles fundamentally fucking over your gambits?

What's the point of flipping the script and killing one of your own when it can all fall apart with one well timed investigate, and make no mistake I find it very unlikely they didn't think they were going to be the subject of a check. It was, at the least a very real possibility.

Just as Math wanted to check me to avoid having to think about me, more players are going to look at Aya's play this game and think, "Okay, I don't want to engage with them to get a read, how can I speak with them?"

We have a designated LLD whisperer in Math, self-nominated, but it gives an idea of how to approach this.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #136) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:33 am

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rather, how a cop or other investigative would likely approach this.

Sanae, appears to have goofed and didn't realize that Marisa used their spell card. So they have no shots left.
Funnily enough, if they did have extra shots I would, in fact, town bin them since it wouldn't be fair otherwise.
But this is irrelevant.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #137) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:33 am

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......Kagerou/Marisa I mean.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #138) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:04 am

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In terms of actions in relation to Sanae,

Dai doesn't feel like scum here. They broke that unspoken rule that scum don't say that a player is "obviously scum" especially when they're wrong.

I am going to have to fight off the whole "well, one of Yuuka/Sanae must be scum" those kind of pernicious thoughts can be damnably hard to get rid of though. I'd know, there's this bandwagon effect to them and they tend to make it hard to let go of them.
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Post Post #146 (isolation #139) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:14 am

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Reisen might be the missing Kilga.
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Post Post #147 (isolation #140) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:26 am

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Hopefully scum kill Aya or Koishi. But hoping isn't going to help much.
I guess in terms of defending myself. There are quite a few angles to take.

1. Didn't realize most players didn't have the flavor from their name.
2. A bunch of posts displaying ignorance of the set up, the number of scum, night actions etc.
3. Larvae saying they didn't "get me"

Most of this is easily faked or explained away. But all I can really do is do what I normally do here, which is argue every angle.
I know this point could be mute.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #141) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:55 am

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Read all of Spiffeh's posts. I find reading associations challenging with them. Re-calibrated, but not sensitive enough to pick up on anything without there being a lot of doubt.

Could they have been bussing Kagerou?
I'm not sure. Their response to their vig claim seemed normal.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #142) » Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:52 pm

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Can't really mention it in my post but an exclusive interview/neighborhood makes sense for Aya.
Redirector doesn't tho.
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Post Post #150 (isolation #143) » Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:54 pm

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I remember when I took a principled stand in Shakespeare and declined to claim masons with town LLD.
Clown piece was more forthcoming. It seems given they told them they were an investigate.

Seems reasonably safe, can't fault them for it.
..I might not have because it wouldn't have been relevant.

I forgot if thread listening is bastard.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #144) » Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:32 am

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Kaguya's suspicions seem sort of absent.
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Post Post #152 (isolation #145) » Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:33 am

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I'm so used to scum being extra paranoid and always talking about how they suspect everyone that I'm not really sure what to make of what appears to be the opposite.
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Post Post #153 (isolation #146) » Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:45 pm

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This whole situation is pretty complicated.
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Post Post #154 (isolation #147) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:50 am

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Here but going to wait to see how dai responds and if I believe how their ego presents itself.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #148) » Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:03 am

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I'm dead.
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Post Post #156 (isolation #149) » Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:03 am

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INSIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Post Post #157 (isolation #150) » Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:04 am

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How do I not have like, a legitimate scum read yet.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #151) » Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:12 am

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It took forever, but I have slowly come to develop reads.

I'm just not comfortable with most of them, lol.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #152) » Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:30 am

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Kagerou’s play this day phase is inadequate.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #153) » Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:02 am

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I wish I could interpret Kaguya's WIM better.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #154) » Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:44 pm

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Even for me, I'm posting a lot.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #155) » Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:37 pm

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Ah, Aya is doing the dodging responsibility thing. To avoid losing influence.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #156) » Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:15 am

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Dream meta read: I dreamed that kaguya posted on their main and it was sircakez.

Terribly unlikely due to posting style, probably just the association with mechanics.

Totally outside of their range of scheduling as well. They simply don’t have the scheduling space for it.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #157) » Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:34 am

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New kagerou is probably Pooky.
The "I'm not a saint"
and "virtue signal" is common in our interactions with one another.

I also think how they noted I was whining.
Which is fair, I'm just, well, I'm tired from posting so much, so asking me to post more just is annoying. As is being punished for not doing what they say.

They also tend to have that stolid reads view outwardly.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #158) » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:39 am

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5541 is an attempt at a trap.
They semi recently lost to "there can't be two millers!" type reasoning.
So if they go full steam ahead I'll give them scum points for dumbing themselves down.

I could still be wrong though lol. But this is part of how I scum hunt.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #159) » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:34 pm

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The whole “fine, I’ll leave the thread” thing is also pookyish.
I’m not sure why they’re trying to sell me a box of play style supremacy chocolates.
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Post Post #167 (isolation #160) » Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:46 pm

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I know Icitis is a thing, but this game seems to have an especially bad case of it.

Albeit seems mostly to be real life stuff
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Post Post #168 (isolation #161) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:59 am

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Nope, I still have doubts everywhere.

But Aya, Koishi.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #162) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:03 am

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Could be wrong on Pooky, Kaguya, Dai, maybe kilga as Reisen, and Marisa.

Could be wrong on all of em’
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Post Post #170 (isolation #163) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:39 pm

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I guess I'm just going to do what I can next day phase. I'm a little worried I'm going to end up obsessing over Pooky cleaning up his "how likely can the same roles be in this game?" thing.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #164) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:42 pm

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He walked it back, but he kind of had to, and how he walked it back didn't make a lot of sense.
Based on the death's so far theere doesn't seem to be any overlap, is just weird. Especially when they kept slipping up on who claimed and who died.

So using that reasoning is extremely weird.

I'm not sure if I just caught them out and even the most experienced people make mistakes or if the fact they weren't careful there means they're town because they'd be more careful if they were scum, right?
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Post Post #172 (isolation #165) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:45 pm

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Ah, shit. I should've pushed them harder. On that, maybe I could've gotten it through.

Oh well.

I wonder if the scum team just no kills here.
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Post Post #173 (isolation #166) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:20 pm

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also, ah shit.
Maybe we should have killed Reisen after all. Now I have to worry about them and Kaguya.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #167) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:29 am

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My reads haven't changed much overnight except I've been trying to figure out if I have a Pooky tunneling problem.
I can't tell.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #168) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:35 am

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1. Replaceout.
2. Shot Tenshi which is kind of meh.
3. Mod would give the scum team a vig. Plenty of room for things to go wrong given reflections. Abilities, also a balancer for a town vig. Though, I think it's telling that Reisen did not reflect Kagerou. Oh, let me think for a minute. Thought done.
4. Pooky replacement, didn't read flips before giving reads and voting.
5. Incongruity between initial statement and walk back on overlapping roles.
6. Sloppy in general.
7. Not really trying to please people. Buddying less hard than they normally do.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #169) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:47 am

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8. I know that in general, Pooky doesn't like how I play and I think their emotional reaction to that is almost non-alignment indicative. they don't seem like they can really use it to their advantage. They've tried town binning me early to avoid me as scum before, but they couldn't do that here and even when they did bin me, I ended up on them anyway. That said, it seems unlikely they knew who I was before they even replaced in. Pretty sure they know who I am now. Most players should. But this hasn't changed their approach much. They might think their hands are tied. Or, I dunno maybe they don't know who I am.
I find it doubtful if they have pattern recognition.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #170) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:50 am

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Lol, I meant I find it doubtful they don't have pattern recognition.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #171) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:03 am

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melo scares me.
Elo is stressful but it's managable, but the probabilities are just so much less ideal.
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Post Post #179 (isolation #172) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:15 am

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What the hell was that.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #173) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:15 am

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Did Marisa just flub that vote?
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Post Post #181 (isolation #174) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:21 am

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Kagerou’s I must wait before deciding is a horrible look.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #175) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:23 am

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Are you fucking kidding me?
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Post Post #183 (isolation #176) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:23 am

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Sigh I love this game sometimes.
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Post Post #184 (isolation #177) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:26 am

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Reading is tech Marisa. I said I used my spell card!
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Post Post #185 (isolation #178) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:27 am

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Okay. So Kaguya, Reisen, Kagerou.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #179) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:42 am

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Not gunna lie. I’m pretty much dead here.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #180) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:44 am

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Sigh. Opportunity presented itself.
And the scum team took it.
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Post Post #188 (isolation #181) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:45 am

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Sigh, no reason to be mad at Marisa. They’re sick so who knows how that affected their judgement.

I don’t have that excuse.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #182) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:48 am

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Oh well, I’ll argue when I can.
The challenge there is simply that I don’t know who the last scum are, on the other hand, probably. 2/3 odds of hitting scum.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #183) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:59 am

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I’m never going to live this down in my own head.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #184) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:53 am

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Kaguya’s play is smooth. It’s tricky, their outward sell was that Marisa had popped their ability and then forgot to eliminate someone.

On the other hand, Marisa was likely going to kill Kaguya.
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Post Post #192 (isolation #185) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:53 am

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Or me.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #186) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:54 am

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Okay, again.
What happened:
Marisa popped their ability before properly explaining, scaring the bajesus out of all of us.
Marisa either was going to reveal that they knew i didn't receive it as a reaction test or they misread their role pm or they didn't realize I had already claimed I used my spell card.

Kaguya.
Clown piece.
Dai kill benefits them.
It does not benefit Kagerou, much.
It doesn't really benefit or hurt Reisen.

Why did they shoot Dai? I guess because in general they were town read fairly hard. By it turns out, me, Marisa.
Plenty of room to argue that I killed them because I didn't have room to manuever with them around given I was town reading them and they were not town reading me.
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Post Post #194 (isolation #187) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:05 am

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Reisen's availability bugs me a little, they seemed even self aware of it. That it was unusual that everyone was playing at the same time.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #188) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:10 am

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Yeah, Kaguya scum benefited the most here, or rather, person that wants to live, Kaguya benefited the most from this outcome.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #189) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:42 am

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The challenge is that they have good cover.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #190) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:44 am

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I'm no sure I'm settled on it either. I just need to read over those three and figure it out.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #191) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:56 am

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Yeah, I should probably just hard reverse and kill Reisen and Kaguya.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #192) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:59 am

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Reisen first. But I'll have to rebuff the claims that I'm just going for the easy elimination. Rather, Kagerou, Kaguya doesn't feel right as a team. But Reisen always does.


Argh, am I making a mistake?
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Post Post #200 (isolation #193) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:02 am

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… /:
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Post Post #201 (isolation #194) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:02 am

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This is dumb.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #195) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:36 am

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I genuinely don’t know what to say to that
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Post Post #203 (isolation #196) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:37 am

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If it’s true it’s horrible.
If it’s not true it’s not advantageous.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #197) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:18 am

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I can’t believe Kagerou just bailed after voting me and then saying they forgot before unvoting without saying anything else.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #198) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:57 am

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Wait is Kagerou implying they’re Titus?
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Post Post #206 (isolation #199) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:57 am

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I literally don’t know anyone else that does VCA.
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