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Post Post #20 (isolation #0) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:17 am

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hey there friend!
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Post Post #23 (isolation #1) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:21 am

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this is dave grohl of foo fighters and it's from a videclip called everlong
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Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:23 am

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In post 21, Save The Dragons wrote:i'd love to hear your thoughts about what's been going on. town is doing pretty well we've gotten two mafia out but i think the other two are only going to get harder from here
I haven't read any parts of the game yet and I have shirou as my only townread for the way he is approaching things and whatnot.

let me ask you this: why do you want the PT? I'm fine with it and would love to just hang out and chill, but what if I'm scum, pocket you, and spoil your reads? do you get no paranoia from my slot?
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Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:07 am

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right, I like that you're giving me this information, and I understand now why it's important for us to talk in PT, as we'd either trust each other or plug ourselves out.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:29 am

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can you help me out? there are some things I need. first of all, there's been something between maria, shirou and a push maria was making without voting, that seems to have gotten awkward ITT. do you know where in the game that is?

I'll go through meuh's ISO but it's one of those things... I just replaced in and I can't possibly read 90 pages, so it's not likely to be a very nice read anyway.

what do you think of Baltar? the way he is pushing us, assuming you're town, feels like pushing for the LHF, like scum did before with our pair.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #5) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:30 am

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also he is pushing us for days? what's the case against, me or you, or both?
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Post Post #33 (isolation #6) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:37 am

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baltar said this today

"Gimli/std is my preference too, but I've been banging that drum for days and idk if the votes are there. I'll switch if it seems feasible and not a vanity vote." so not banging that drum too hard?
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Post Post #36 (isolation #7) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:40 am

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meuh's ISO is actually all sorts of garbage fire
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Post Post #37 (isolation #8) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:41 am

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but maybe that's her style
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Post Post #38 (isolation #9) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:45 am

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what did you think of meuh's push on midwaybear? what's your read on enchant?
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Post Post #39 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:48 am

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"Midway has to be town for trying to dance with enchant! Town motivation: trying to keep his townread alive. Scum thought process would be: attach oneself to limbait? No. Stand out by defying town consensus? No. Leave your gate in the hands of an unpredictable player who can leave at any time? No. Scum bear would have proposed to Cakez first"

what do you think of this read from my predecessor?
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Post Post #41 (isolation #11) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:50 am

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I think meuh's ISO gets much better in the second half and her thoughts look honest at first glance.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:53 am

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who are your top suspects?
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Post Post #46 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:01 am

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meuh with vpb, the way she is hard defending him, could work.

love that you're sussing me, makes me trust you more
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Post Post #47 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:16 am

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when you can, if you want to, could you give me your thoughts on each of these players you suspect and why?
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Post Post #49 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:47 am

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I'd like you to eventually toss your irrel read completely and read me for my own involvement and thoughts. I think youre town, youre coming in this PT with a mindset I identify as town, and it'd be a Shame if we die because you mistrusted irrel (which is now a reason our pair is getting pushed).
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Post Post #53 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:13 pm

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In post 51, Save The Dragons wrote:I'm having second thoughts about furitive
as in, you think he is townie now?
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Post Post #54 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:17 pm

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In post 50, Save The Dragons wrote:That's fair but I think my irrel read is always going to color my read of your slot

I'm happy to try and read you though so I will do so. I'm still kind of undecided and time will tell
I think I can
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Post Post #57 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:15 pm

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In post 49, Gimli wrote:I'd like you to eventually toss your irrel read completely and read me for my own involvement and thoughts. I think youre town, youre coming in this PT with a mindset I identify as town, and it'd be a Shame if we die because you mistrusted irrel (which is now a reason our pair is getting pushed).
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that's why, pretty much. but I don't like your pre-dance posts, which is what I read so far
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Post Post #58 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:17 pm

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if I end up with a short POE and you're in it, I'll leave the dance
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Post Post #60 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:21 am

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I'll be out all day. but when I'm back, I'll read the second half of the game and be fully caught up.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:34 am

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I started to like tsq, baltar, enchant as probably town, and you were a nonpresence in pre dance so you became more likely to be scum as a result. Not much of a vibe but, in fact, the lack of it
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Post Post #64 (isolation #22) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:35 am

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I want you to be town and I'm townreading you in PT and you real time posts itt
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Post Post #65 (isolation #23) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:37 am

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viewtopic.php?p=13601475#p13601475 and some other posts I made that discuss baltar. Game is too hard everyone is towny.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #24) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:23 am

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I see there's been a lot of spat in this game and I'll just try not to make it worse
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Post Post #70 (isolation #25) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:23 am

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I'm starting to actually scumread furtive
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Post Post #73 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:46 am

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I think maria's play isn't great because she is in PT with scum
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Post Post #75 (isolation #27) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:31 am

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I'm starting to think the other scum is meuh
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Post Post #76 (isolation #28) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:31 am

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pending a read
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Post Post #78 (isolation #29) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:15 am

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I feel like throwing up
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Post Post #79 (isolation #30) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:21 am

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Baltar is scum
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Post Post #80 (isolation #31) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:06 am

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I hate what shirou did to this game, but I let that happen so it's my fault too
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Post Post #84 (isolation #32) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:56 am

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I'm following maria's plan: get VP flipped tomorrow, then reassess. I think he is scum, I think it's highly likely. also, and I know this isn't a very nice thing to say at all, but we won't get eliminated by voting, so before lylo I'm leaving the dance because I just can't clear you
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Post Post #85 (isolation #33) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:57 am

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I hope we don't get to that spot
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Post Post #87 (isolation #34) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:01 am

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I fucking believe you

let's work this thread
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Post Post #100 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:12 am

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I feel rather strongly that baltar is scum. have you read the last pages of the gameday?
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Post Post #103 (isolation #36) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:15 am

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when I townread baltar, for the pre-dance stuff, of course I didn't have a full picture of the thread. then I read the first part of the dance, or whatever, and saw two things that I think are damning for him. 1) his treatment of TSQ, who we now know was just town, looked a lot like manufacturing a scumread, and not real thoughts. the other thing I disliked from baltar was when the norwegian/ari pair got hammered, and he made a post that I think shows a specific scum perspective spew. I explained what I thought ITT to him.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #37) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:16 am

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also I think I owe to maria to make the baltar/uno pair flip.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #38) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:26 pm

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furtive as well. they got hard tunneled the entire gameday and it wasn't because their play was faulty, I don't think.
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Post Post #107 (isolation #39) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:55 pm

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In post 95, Save The Dragons wrote:ydra i feel is town because i feel like i've played with her in a scum dance game and she did absolutely nothing in it but this is lightyears from doing nothing so either she's stepping up her scum game or she's town here i will try to take a closer look tho
I haven't touched the ydra slot because she is hard to read, like actually kind of hard to read her posts, so I've been mainly sheeping other people's townreads of her. I guess the hammer doesn't mean anything as the gameday would end in a mariaR selfvote anyway, so it's not scummy that she did it, might even be a little towny.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #40) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:06 pm

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do you think I can meta read you as town? like if I go through your old games and whatnot
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Post Post #110 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:10 pm

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In post 91, Save The Dragons wrote:1783 seems kind of obvious for a defense though? and it does point out some weird interaction between the two slots

but maybe they made that all up as a reason for people to think they're unpaired and that they naturally would gravitate towards each other but didn't want to because they'd be a s/s pair
I think it's an extremely nuanced and personal read. of course it's wrong but I see it as a town player trying to think things and overthinking it.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #42) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:18 pm

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I'm such a fucking idiot for scumreading furtive
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Post Post #113 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:24 pm

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any idea how to read enchant?
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Post Post #114 (isolation #44) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:27 pm

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In post 112, Save The Dragons wrote:i don't think so

i think furative did a lot of nothing in the thread and was survivalistic for not really a good reason

i don't think you can fault yourself
also, thanks. I'll try to show less emotion.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #45) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:40 pm

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well his ISO is pure ass
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Post Post #118 (isolation #46) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:44 pm

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yeah it looks like resigned town. that's ALL he has for him, I think, but it's there.

and then I think midwaybear is just town the vast majority of the time, so it's bad to flip that pair tomorrow I guess
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Post Post #121 (isolation #47) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:48 pm

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In post 120, Save The Dragons wrote:2498 is an example of enchant being solvey

i'm not saying he's a big solver but i see some thought process with a post like that
I agree, it's a good post
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Post Post #122 (isolation #48) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:57 pm

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I like UNOwen's ISO as well.

I think the players I have no idea rn, are firebringer and ydrasse. if baltar is town I think we lose the game as eliminating any other pair would, quite frankly, feel like a gamethrow.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #49) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:58 pm

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oh, and then there's meuh. I don't really buy her, but I think only you and me feel like she is sketchy.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #50) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:15 pm

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I see. the first has to hit scum, right? otherwise it's gg?
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Post Post #126 (isolation #51) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:19 pm

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I'm being stupid.

parity is when there's only 2 pairs left. we'll have 5 pairs tomorrow, so there are 3 chances of flipping a single scum before we lose the game.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #52) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:19 pm

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is there any pair you think is clear?
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Post Post #129 (isolation #53) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:14 am

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le sigh

I hope we get NKed lol. is that even possible
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Post Post #135 (isolation #54) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:00 am

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yeah actually I think waiting on the NK to reassess is good. I don't wanna tunnel on baltar but I don't wanna live in a world where baltar/uno don't contain scum. I think if either is town they'll leave the dance though.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #55) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:45 am

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2 hours to open up weeee

are you excited

cause I'm not too excited
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Post Post #137 (isolation #56) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:46 am

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if you're scum, can I be a traitor? hire me for your team pls
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Post Post #140 (isolation #57) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:03 am

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ydra did, with that vote, and then him pointing out that as scummy. I felt that was a little scummy too. and then I noticed, I actually have been readless on ydra this entire game.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #58) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:20 am

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it's a pretty conditional read. if baltar is town, I don't know if you make sense as scum anymore.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #59) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:42 am

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I'm a scumsiding potato, dragons, and I'm sorry
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Post Post #147 (isolation #60) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:45 am

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sorry for doubting you, I'm gonna go ahead and trust your solve
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Post Post #150 (isolation #61) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:59 am

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enchant left
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Post Post #153 (isolation #62) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:27 am

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are you scum
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Post Post #154 (isolation #63) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:28 am

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stop dancing in your wolf pt and tell me
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Post Post #157 (isolation #64) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:39 am

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sorry I felt bad for ydrasse
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Post Post #160 (isolation #65) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:40 am

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I'm sorry
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Post Post #166 (isolation #66) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:42 am

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I loved being part of the PT with you!
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Post Post #167 (isolation #67) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:42 am

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you had meuh/ydra? I think someone did, at some point
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Post Post #170 (isolation #68) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:41 pm

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In post 169, Save The Dragons wrote:No redaction from me
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