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Post Post #1 (isolation #0) » Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:07 am

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Post Post #2 (isolation #1) » Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:07 am

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NO wait

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there we go
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Post Post #3 (isolation #2) » Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:11 am

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didn't you say firebringer was scummy? what pinged you?
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Post Post #6 (isolation #3) » Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:29 pm

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i think that's possibly true but it's hard to separate her and karla's game and karla's strategy was more interesting to watch and her story was more interesting to tell so they focused more energy on her.
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Post Post #8 (isolation #4) » Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:32 pm

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i dunno if you're familiar with "edgic" but if you aren't the idea is that the editors edit the show to tell a certain story, and you can predict who's going to win based on how the show is edited. i don't really do it hard core but i try to pay attention to nuances in editing to see if i can guess and gabler kept getting too many "winner" quotes which helped tip me off that he might win the entire thing.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #5) » Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:35 pm

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that's fair re: karla. i think i'd have liked to see more of cassidy in the show in order for me to really root for her to win, I think she was just too in the background due to the strong or at least visible moves this season particularly by players who ended up on the jury
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Post Post #10 (isolation #6) » Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:39 pm

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i'm not really sure who's scum this game, it's hard to tell without a lot of info yet. we do have the nice info that cakez is scum and since he targeted us i feel like it's because we were an easy target t/t pair.

i think shirou is town and enchant is probably town but could have been scum trying to get sircakez in the game over themself when things were getting hairy. i guess it seems unlikely that midway would abandon a scumpartner but he'd probably rather be s/t if he's scum, so i could see sacrificing sircakez as a form of bussing.

thoughts on profdrapion/norwee? I think i'd vote there if people moved in that direction. i think meuh and asukaslot are certainly possible as scum but i'm not confident on either to put them in a category.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #7) » Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:50 pm

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I'm not super worried about midway so that's fine
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Post Post #14 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:17 am

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Yeah I think my husband told me edgic thought Cassidy would win when Jesse left. But as the finale went on we started to realize gabler was going to win. His mind was blown but I felt they kept trying to force feed us a gabler narrative whether it existed or not
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Post Post #15 (isolation #9) » Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:20 am

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Also I started watching the circle season 5 but am not too far yet.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #10) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:24 am

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tell me more about your thoughts on Meuh
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Post Post #17 (isolation #11) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:33 am

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What do you think of furative and Maria r
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Post Post #19 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:11 am

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hello gimli
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Post Post #21 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:17 am

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i'd love to hear your thoughts about what's been going on. town is doing pretty well we've gotten two mafia out but i think the other two are only going to get harder from here
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Post Post #22 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:18 am

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i feel like i've seen your avatar before but i don't recall where
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Post Post #25 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:28 am

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well i'm familiar with the foo fighters so i guess i recognized his facial features lol

i have a town read on shirou as well, though im wary of their partner.

i want the PT because in dance games it helps me sort the other player. i get to ask personalized questions and get answers directed at them without any filter or bullshit or any way to ignore them without scrutiny. i think there's the danger of being pocketed from any pt but i'm not too worried about it, i don't think we're going to live to endgame there's too much sus on our slot.

i am paranoid of your slot. so one thing you may not know about dance games is that players can leave the dance. they will eliminate themselves and their partner by doing so. so at any time i could leave, eliminating both me and you from the game. and you could do the same if you ever felt paranoid enough about me that you think i might be scum (if you're town).
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Post Post #27 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:11 am

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Yeah. Would love to hear any thoughts you have and am willing to answer any questions.

Will you tell me what you think of meuh when you get a chance?
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Post Post #30 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:34 am

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I honestly don't think anyone brought a case against us even though mariar, shiroh, Baltar, and I guess ydrasse all seem to be ok with pushing us.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:34 am

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I still want to hear what your thoughts are after even just skimming meuhs iso
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Post Post #32 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:36 am

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I'm on mobile so it'll be hard for me to pinpoint exactly where they git into it. Basically shiroh made a case on mariar that had a little to do with the way she replaced in. Mariar has been pretty flippant and not exactly solvey imo so I'm kind of seeing her as deadweight which makes me ok with limming her pair.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #20) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:38 am

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Baltar had a fight with TSQ (now MariaR) that was kind of weird. There was some light ad hominem which was a little weird. I think he still could be scum and was voting him briefly I think
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Post Post #35 (isolation #21) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:39 am

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No, not too hard
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Post Post #40 (isolation #22) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:49 am

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I don't remember meuhs push on midwaybear

Enchant is probably town because he gave up d1 and was resigned to being left out and not getting paired up. He also initially rejected thr proposal. I don't think scum would do that though it is possible both he and cakez were left out and they were trying to get cakez in
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Post Post #42 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:52 am

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I think the gymnastics of midway, enchant, and cakez all being scum is very unlikely

. I think irrels read is pretty good. Right now I think enchant and midway are town town. The only thing is if midway was scum I can see him proposing to enchant to not be a scum scum pair
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Post Post #43 (isolation #24) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:52 am

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Thanks for the meuh thoughts
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Post Post #45 (isolation #25) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:58 am

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Furative, meuh, vbp, you
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Post Post #48 (isolation #26) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:31 am

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Furitive- done nothing but try to play for survival. Not solving. Omgus vote calling me lazy when he looks like lazy scum himself.
Meuh- doesn't seem to have anything of substance. Defended cakez.
Vbp-i feel underwhelmed by them. Stirred shit up with tsq
You-has to do with irrel not even trying to solve me
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Post Post #50 (isolation #27) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:36 am

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That's fair but I think my irrel read is always going to color my read of your slot

I'm happy to try and read you though so I will do so. I'm still kind of undecided and time will tell
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Post Post #51 (isolation #28) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:32 pm

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I'm having second thoughts about furitive
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Post Post #52 (isolation #29) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:32 pm

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I guess I would go to vpb next but I'm not very confident on any of my.reads
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Post Post #55 (isolation #30) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:29 pm

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I dunno if I think he's townie yet but maybe
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Post Post #56 (isolation #31) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:44 pm

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You don't seem to have any paranoia I might be scum have you explained why
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Post Post #59 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:14 am

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my pre-dance was mostly memey

i usually take a while to get into a game
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Post Post #61 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:22 am

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neato

is there anything in particular about my predance you want to dig into or is it just kind of the general vibe
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Post Post #63 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:34 am

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why did you like baltar
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Post Post #66 (isolation #35) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:40 am

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baltar's seemed like a non-entity to me and i feel like he's usually more active than this so i'll take a look at those pages again and see if i see what you see
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Post Post #67 (isolation #36) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:45 am

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In post 650, VP Baltar wrote:I actually think it'd be kind of mean to have no one pair with enchant.
i guess this seems unpaired with cakez, but could also be a lame attempt at distancing it's not a strong push that cakez should not be paired
In post 661, VP Baltar wrote:If it happens, I wouldn't be mad.
i guess considering most people paired up really quickly he'd have reason to be mad he's been left out so this is +town

i don't know if i like his reads though
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Post Post #68 (isolation #37) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:49 am

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you talked me into a baltar town or at least null read which means if you are town and baltars town, i dunno who the scum is but i think i just have to hope it's back to furitive/mariar and someone in that pair is a sneaky snake
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Post Post #71 (isolation #38) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:25 am

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yeah i got a little carried away
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Post Post #72 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:25 am

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i don't really like furative's posting today
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Post Post #74 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:58 am

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there's a screw loose in my head that makes me think they're scum together but that seems impossible
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Post Post #77 (isolation #41) » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:40 am

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meuh is a real possibility
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Post Post #81 (isolation #42) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:40 am

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fucking hell
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Post Post #82 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:44 am

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im not so sure baltar is scum but i suppose it's possible. i think meuh is likely. but i really thought furitive was scum there so i need to readjust my head because i dunno who we're looking for
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Post Post #83 (isolation #44) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:20 am

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i think i have a lot of lazy trs like firebringer and unowen that i need to reasses
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Post Post #86 (isolation #45) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:59 am

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that's fine

i am town so try not to do it unless you really have to

i want to reassess everyone who was on the mariar/furitive wagon this intermission so i'm gonna try to do that
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Post Post #88 (isolation #46) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:02 am

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gonna go on a date with my husband but afterwards i'll try to come up with something i said people who voted mariar/furative but i'll probably try to analyze everyone
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Post Post #89 (isolation #47) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:41 am

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how are you feeling about baltar? i was suspicious of him but you actually convinced me he was town and i think i'm still there

post 650 is interesting because it basically implies leaving cakez out without mentioning cakez, i dunno it seems townie to me.

post 661 is really townie but could be scum resigned to the fact that one of their number is going to die
I think if I'm limmed, I would like to see
Shea/Ausuka
flipped first, followed by you [fireisredsir] and Ydra.
is a little problematic because it's a bad read if town. will need to look at fireisredsir again to see what i think because i'm tring both ydra and fireisredsir.

i guess he just calls fireisredsir scum (post 663) but doesn't really explain it
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Post Post #90 (isolation #48) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:45 am

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doubting my fireisred tr atm
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Post Post #91 (isolation #49) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:48 am

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1783 seems kind of obvious for a defense though? and it does point out some weird interaction between the two slots

but maybe they made that all up as a reason for people to think they're unpaired and that they naturally would gravitate towards each other but didn't want to because they'd be a s/s pair
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Post Post #92 (isolation #50) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:50 am

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2362 could be leading town to kill town and trying to look like they're having an organic thought process on furitive...

what do you think of fireisredsir
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Post Post #93 (isolation #51) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:54 am

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pre furitive/mariar's elimination i thought

Save The Dragons & Gimli

fireisredsir & Ydrasse

Firebringer & GuiltyLion
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so i kinda was expecting them to have scum
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Post Post #94 (isolation #52) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:57 am

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unowen seems too random to be scum i think they don't really have an agenda they're just kind of doing whatever they want which looks more townie than scummy imo

i mean going after ydrasse/fireisredsir and particularly ydra seems just too spicy a take to come from scum. i think he had some other points that were rather off topic from solving vpb/him and furitive/mariar
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Post Post #95 (isolation #53) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:00 am

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ydra i feel is town because i feel like i've played with her in a scum dance game and she did absolutely nothing in it but this is lightyears from doing nothing so either she's stepping up her scum game or she's town here i will try to take a closer look tho
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Post Post #96 (isolation #54) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:03 am

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though a quick skim of her iso i see a lot of fluff intermixed with the solvey stuff so maybe she's good at doing just enough to look townie. i was honestly expecting to come back from looking at her iso with a stronger tr and i'm not so that's a hmm.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #55) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:06 am

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firebringer:
i mean ive said this before and if you read it you should know that any time scum has danced with IC they have lost the game. So historically speaking, its never been a good plan even if it sounds "smart" on the surface.
Now do I think im good enough to be the first to pull it off?
Is my ego that big? Ill let u decide.

pls convince GL my ego is that big tho
this post pinged me because i could easily see firebringer having the balls as scum to post this

but everything else about firebringer kind of seems town
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Post Post #98 (isolation #56) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:10 am

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when enchant gave up, the following pairs were made:

ProfessorDrapion & Aristeia
Thestatusquo & Ausuka
Save The Dragons & Irrel
fireisredsir & Ydrasse
Firebringer & GuiltyLion
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Post Post #99 (isolation #57) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:10 am

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enchant gave up in post 404
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Post Post #101 (isolation #58) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:13 am

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can you elaborate a bit on what happened to make you feel that way? i'll try to reread it when i can but nothing really stood out to me
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Post Post #102 (isolation #59) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:14 am

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Post Post #105 (isolation #60) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:47 pm

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i dunno if mariar deserves anything but if you feel like it you do you

i'll take a closer look soon
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Post Post #109 (isolation #61) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:07 pm

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i doubt it but you could try if you want

i kind of play off the cuff and randomly or at least i think i do so it might be hard but maybe it's really easy and i dunno
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Post Post #112 (isolation #62) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:20 pm

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i don't think so

i think furative did a lot of nothing in the thread and was survivalistic for not really a good reason

i don't think you can fault yourself
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Post Post #115 (isolation #63) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:29 pm

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In post 113, Gimli wrote:any idea how to read enchant?
i think he actually can get solvy if he's town

if he's not solving, he could be scum but i'm not sure i have experience with enchant scum enough to say that for sure
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Post Post #117 (isolation #64) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:42 pm

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yeah that's fair i dunno. it's possible he was expecting cakez as a buddy to get paired and play and just couldn't wait any longer

it just is weird for scum!enchant to see 5 pairs happen and decide to peace out for so long but it's possible
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Post Post #119 (isolation #65) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:45 pm

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all that's left of the game is tomorrow we have 8 days to kill the scum and if we don't we lose
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Post Post #120 (isolation #66) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:45 pm

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2498 is an example of enchant being solvey

i'm not saying he's a big solver but i see some thought process with a post like that
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Post Post #124 (isolation #67) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:08 pm

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We can lim as many pairs as we want in this phase
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Post Post #128 (isolation #68) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:07 pm

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not really but the closest would probably be ydra and fireisred or firebringer and guiltylion
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Post Post #130 (isolation #69) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:29 am

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we're not getting nked
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Post Post #131 (isolation #70) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:31 am

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i suspect one of the two i mentioned are
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Post Post #132 (isolation #71) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:35 am

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are we sure furitive wasn't actually scum
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Post Post #133 (isolation #72) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:40 am

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i dunno maybe i'm just a sucker but baltar seems town

mariar's attack on him was so weird and made no sense and he was pretty calm in deflecting it so maybe he's scum good at resisting being caught for the wrong reasons but i dunno
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Post Post #134 (isolation #73) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:40 am

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i hope they just leave and we don't have to sort them tbh
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Post Post #138 (isolation #74) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:06 am

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im a little excited

im not scum but i guess i wouldn't tell you if i was
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Post Post #139 (isolation #75) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:59 am

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what took you off of baltar
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Post Post #141 (isolation #76) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:25 am

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did i do anything to make you suspect me besides tr baltar?
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Post Post #143 (isolation #77) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:25 am

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im a little wary of their midway push even though i was expressing doubts of midway in the thread
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Post Post #144 (isolation #78) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:27 am

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now im waffling pretty hard
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Post Post #146 (isolation #79) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:44 am

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i mean we don't know for certain until the mod flips them
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Post Post #148 (isolation #80) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:46 am

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i dunno. i'm getting paranoid about slots and i'm not sure what my solve is atm
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Post Post #149 (isolation #81) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:48 am

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watch them be s/s and the game is over
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Post Post #151 (isolation #82) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:00 am

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i'm getting nervous
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Post Post #152 (isolation #83) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:23 am

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my heart can't take this lol
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Post Post #155 (isolation #84) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:38 am

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noooo why did oyu do that i'm not scum
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Post Post #156 (isolation #85) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:38 am

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i was literally doing a work emergency wth
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Post Post #158 (isolation #86) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:39 am

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why didn't you wait
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Post Post #159 (isolation #87) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:40 am

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can you just tell me you're scum game throwing for some reason
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Post Post #161 (isolation #88) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:40 am

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i was right to want to flip meuh/shirou

gotta trust the ol' gut more often
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Post Post #162 (isolation #89) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:41 am

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it's okay it happens
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Post Post #163 (isolation #90) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:41 am

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i had fun that was pretty intense for a while there!
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Post Post #164 (isolation #91) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:41 am

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though meuh saying "don't leave" gives me some pause
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Post Post #165 (isolation #92) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:42 am

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nah it was just meuh and i should have trusted myself more
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Post Post #168 (isolation #93) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:51 am

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i think baltar did. ydra was in my blindspot

i had fun with you even though i originally was expecting to post random things about reality shows with irrel all game
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Post Post #169 (isolation #94) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:29 pm

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No redaction from me

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