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Well, I could tell before I repped in that this was a scum slot but looks like timing has dropped me in it. Any advice?"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Oh okay I'll check Andante's iso and cry thenIn post 1031, Alisae wrote: wow...
you claimed before checking wolf pt...
you didn't even do this in the micro that I played with you in"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Oh okay it's a VT claim then I guess"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Oh okay I'm totally fucked because draft cop exists and had a result on me. I guess it's my bad for not reading the setup fully before I thought the BP was the safer claim but I think I was doomed either way"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I've kinda been left to drown here but w/e"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Oh, never mind I panicked for nothing and it's just ythan being the first pick not anything deeper than that, phew"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I really need a lowdown on this game lmao"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I can see that you had a perfect plan for a claim and andante instead didn't read it and claimed VT and that's all the context I need"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Oh right so there IS a guilty on my slot and it seems pretty much uncontestable for me right now"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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It's technically contestable but the correct play is just to lim someone else and then shoot me"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Yeah we'll see how long I last here"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I don't know why. Ythan has a guilty on me and actually there's a million different ways to play this for town but they all end with me being dead by next phase"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Okeydokey, gonna post in a way which implies I have a read on Bella before I should have a read on Bella which you can point out later but not immediately"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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And if you want to make me appear aligned with mith I NEED to be the elim today or I'll get shot"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Oh, hang on, I can craft this in a way that makes Titus think her weird nonsense succeeded as well"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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No. When I claimed Gimli went for bulletproof it was (initially) a hail mary attempting to be able to assign some towniness to Gimli's motivation in an unconventional wayIn post 1073, Alisae wrote: Lead me the way to El Dorado friend
Pedit: do u think u can crawl out of this and we can go onto mith?"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Yeah cop is a better claim but you don't always have to play that
I was really hoping to take the "everyone playing team mafia is trying to be a hero" route"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Well, particularly when you consider that you actually did know that ythan was cop from that point because I'm here"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Or rather, in the hypothetical where this slot is scum then scum knew who the cop was"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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But yeah, don't worry about it. Titus was probing bella for associative with me and I think she will see it there, particularly with a bit of a nudge"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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If I do get limmed here then I would think your only real nightkill option is to kill Ythan, right"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Who would be the easiest person to get mith to kill for you if I could figure out the required combination of words"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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And is it menalque? Can I try to get mith to kill menalque?"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Okay I'll need to get a feel for mith before maneuvering on that front so regretfully I'll have to read the game first and that's not happening tonight"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I'd keep that in the back pocket as a possible option if I fail at this probably quite difficult task"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I think you were pretty optimistic here trying to go for the mith lim at this point tbh"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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We need to convince 2 of 4 people that Mith is safest elimination here rather than the guilty on me, which essentially involves pushing a team including Mith and Ythan
1 of the 4 people is Ythan and has a guilty on me so really it's 3 people.
1 one of them is LLD who both really does not like me and has actually good reasons to think I am scum here
so from my POV I think we can only hope to reach Bella and Menalque and they're gonna have LLD shouting at them the whole time"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Okay that's good to know
I think my goal might be just to get Bella to think I'm town then"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I can't really do anything until I have time to read the game
I'm on lunch rn"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I'm now on a train and thus able to read all the game.
The conclusions I need to reach are all made;
Ythan is already scum from town!me POV
Datisi needs to be a possible scum
Mith needs to be a likely scum
Therefore Alisae needs to be town
Bella and Mebalque both probably need to be town
LLD can be left open as a possible scum, especially if nobody else thinks so because it gives me something unique to push that makes no sense as scum"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Anime poirot is my favourite pfp I've ever had lmaoIn post 1160, Alisae wrote: jjh seeing you post with that pfp makes me smile
I can dig out the old poirotposting image bank if you like lmao"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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And many more. . ."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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In post 1166, Alisae wrote: I mean u can play to lld or u can put her as a fos
You could say ythan and mith are both wolves then it can only be 1 of datisi/lld
That is exactly what I am planning on doing"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Possible future problem rn is that I'm on phone/tablet until tomorrow afternoon so if I have to explain my reasoning on Bella I won't be able to do it until I'm in a good position to search down something I am sure I put together in the past that I can just use again"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Lmao menalque 669"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I think this is a tricky situation given LLD probably having a very good point on datisi/gimli
I think giving less opportunity to bring that up would be ideal. Need to see how bella receives it to determine if we might feasibly be able to get mith- otherwise I think you might have to take the hard way, Ali"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Decide whether you can keep going for mith as that's still the winning move.
If we try to get Ythan over me then I get shot and Datisi is probably the lim afterwards and you have to win the 3p.
If I end up getting limmed here then shit's fucked, I think"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Okay, I'm gonna work on some very strong and well thought out opinions on the key slots. I think the number one thing is still convincing Bella.
Big one for me is I probably need some cool and original reasons to townread Alisae. Everything else can fit into place very easily.
I haven't seen much of Menalque but would he buy a mith/lld/ythan scumteam, particularly with all the mech reasons for it?
Namely, scum trying to go for both vigs and the cop for a fake guilty plays exactly like this, LLD is best to place based on results rather than her basically infinite range and she has not delivered this game, she is highly supportive of going for Ythan's guilty while if it's wrong and mith is scum then scum win, and she's pushed the idea that scum pick = bp while town pick= cop, except that a scumteam of ythan/lld/mith does not fear vigs as they picked both of them"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Like, I'm considering going flat out on Ythan/LLD/Mith scumteam because I think that's actually highly persuasive and focus on general paranoia about LLD's unreadability makes her content irrelevant to the debate"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I think we then through collective effort get Bella and Menalque to vote mith, because technically it's still a 50/50 in me/ythan and lld/datisi can also be a 50/50 if we frame it like that.
It doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Mith just logically shouldn't be the elim for town. But we might get it to work"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I feel like I found the holy grail of incriminating LLD posts"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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LLD not being on either of those wagons despite clearly advocating for both of them one after the other gives such a powerful angle"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Really gotta think on the angle here but like damn
For LLD to be getting this defensive seems plausibly frameable as completely uncharacteristic flailing"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Nah, probably too hard a sell to focus on. Decent credibility damage as it stands though"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Reading through Andante's play has been painful knowing I am in this slot lmao"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Okay, I did it. I'm caught up"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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So we're literally just waiting for inactive townies to get play the game a bit more so we can deceive them, got it"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I feel like Bella needs a conversation and Menalque needs to read the latest two pages and then we figure out how to individually get Bella and Menalque to both vote Mith"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Btw it's salt awareness week"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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It's even better if you consider the menalque-datisi roleswap may get revealed at some point"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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The sneaky bit is ostensibly trying to convince you but doing it in a way that is probably more appropriate for convincing Bella"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I really wish we had an audience lmao"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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It feeds into my narrative so I'm fine"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I just gotta sell this idea that the big spooky scary LLD is responsible for all the things that went wrong for town in the game"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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It's very difficult without menalque showing up though"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Bella was the one who needed more work though so this order of things seems fine to me"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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There's no dumb perspective slip or anything that mith thinks he can see, right"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Surely if not mena or bella then someone on their teams might be familiar with my historical scumrange and how this shouldn't be possible from scum!jjh right"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Based on my meta the chances of me replacing into a guiltied scum slot, reading 160 pages in a weekend, and then trying to push LLD are basically nil"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Anyway I think now we just wait for menalque and if Bella pops up then engaging with her is a good idea so I'll try to think of the right questions"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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