Team Mafia 2023 Open: Mafia Topic

[Alisae]

Fun fact if ythan is bp and we shoot n3 vig tomorrow becomes very easy

[Alisae]

If she’s a cop her results are wine and they get discredited

[Alisae]

Shoot marashu
Vote off mith

Gg

[Alisae]

Exactly just play your villager game that’s what ur doing right

[Alisae]

if we kill the n3 vig AND if we don't get fucked by a jailkeeper

It will be ok I am very good at mafia

[Alisae]

datisi shoots marashu

[Alisae]

btw, mena said earlier in hood that koba thinks andante is lockscum if imag is green, as they were quite sus of gimli before

so y'know just saying

That whole team has shit reads and will need to get their heads out of their ass

[Alisae]

Ythan never vote andante btw

[Alisae]

It’s f8 recognizing that all of town needs to vote a wolf is very important here

[Alisae]

i still think andante is very likely going down tomorrow and again, why is mara the gun and not mith? bc i don't think we get mith yeeted tomorrow

We can if we push for it there shouldn’t be any reason to tr the player


I said why, mith seems informed about ythan. Look at how they’re playing and what they’re saying.

[Alisae]

Andante isn’t going down you are overreacting
Maybe 4 people vote for them. So what, they likely can’t get the 5th

[Alisae]

Mith looks bad from these flips lol

[Alisae]

They’ve repeatedly been on the wrong side of history

[Alisae]

Did u talk Mena into targeting ythan?

[Alisae]

i still think andante is very likely going down tomorrow and again, why is mara the gun and not mith? bc i don't think we get mith yeeted tomorrow

Like is this based off of anything other than u thinking the hammer is “bad”
It’s not even bad

[Alisae]

btw, mena said earlier in hood that koba thinks andante is lockscum if imag is green, as they were quite sus of gimli before

so y'know just saying

Or this
Seriously?
Who do u think is going to listen to this player their reads have been

[Alisae]

Here’s how the day plays out
If ythan is a cop, there is a discussion about how trustworthy she is
If she’s bp, she dies

If we move on from that, we move onto mith and put pressure onto mith.
Lld might want to move onto mith, maybe they go onto andante. They’re not predictable. It doesn’t matter.
Bella might want to go there but I think I can get her team to look at mith
I have no idea what mith will do, but they will likely come after you or me. Maybe they go after lld. Maybe they vote andante if that’s how things swing

Mena will do what they want but they’ll fail and ythan won’t do anything that town wants.

[Alisae]

There are lines to lethal and winning here and you still wanna kill andante?

Maybe I should just bus you and then win at f5 if we really want to flip a wolf

[Alisae]

You flipping is better than andante flipping.
Andante flipping makes your life harder, you’ll likely be in this game for the long haul.
If you flip this game ends at f5

[Alisae]

I see us winning this game 3 different ways
We lim town tomorrow
We lim u and win at f5
We lim andante then me and then u win at f3

[Alisae]

Anyway Mara is a good shot regardless if we agree that the cop results are wine. Heck she’s not even crumbing her inno. My gut actually just wants to say she’s bulletproof because why would a cop post “I’d you don’t like how I play just kill me”

Please tell me Datisi why u think a cop posts that. Would u trust anyone who posts that and claims cop?

[Alisae]

i don't "want" to flip a wolf, i'm jist saying that hammer was utter ass and i don't think town lets it go that easy, esp if there's a n3 vig that we don't get rid of

or a jk or a cop with actual results or whatever

but my calls have been wrong this game so do what you want ig

read miths play and tell me what u think.
Read his comments throughout the game on people who drafted higher than him and also ythan. Look at how d1 he fos’d staeg but never voted them.

[Alisae]

Honestly if they’re a night 3 vig we can run them up
Mena wanted the n3 vig to claim and he never got that claim. Mena shouldn’t be happy about that if mith is the n3 vig

[Alisae]

Btw mara I think was sus of Mena when Mena tried to fish for n3 vig I think

[Alisae]

Nvm that’s not how that played out
Mith posted on the page Mena posted the n3 vig should claim and mith didn’t claim so either they didn’t want to or it’s Mara!

[Alisae]

i don't "want" to flip a wolf, i'm jist saying that hammer was utter ass and i don't think town lets it go that easy, esp if there's a n3 vig that we don't get rid of

or a jk or a cop with actual results or whatever

but my calls have been wrong this game so do what you want ig

It’s not that bad u just thinks it is!

[Alisae]

Regardless all town has to vote andante they can’t do it

[Alisae]

mena says he likes the plan and that he's probably gonna attempt to hood ythan

Free

[Alisae]

Watcher down ok
Ig our gun is mith then

[Alisae]

nobody has been added into the hood as far as i can tell

mena is planning to do a roleswap with me btw so i will claim neighbourizer

Lmfao why

[Alisae]

oh hey mara wasn't the gun very cool

Hey
Look

We just kill the n3 gun today ez clap

[Alisae]

idk bingle told him to

something about a plan of possibly catching a scum jailkeeper in a lie

Lmfao ya sure wynaut

[Alisae]

if Ythan hasn't introduced themselves in the PT yet they're cop.
BUT what you should do is you should say that if they're a wolf BP they're not posting in the hood

[Alisae]

Ok so they’re ascetic

[Alisae]

btw start acting normal towards me in thread or i'll start pushing towards you, this is the exact shit you did in warrior cats and that mini and idk if i can pretend to ignore it

how I am responding is how I would be responding if I was town
I AM acting normally

[Alisae]

I'm not being condescending at all

[Alisae]

Dats thoughts on Andante claiming jk/tracker?

[Alisae]

there is a play here we can think of lmfao

[Alisae]

they can call out your bs

[Alisae]

tracker n1 tracked mena to datisi
n2 track we can make up

[Alisae]

n2 track mith to marashu?

[Alisae]

we can come up with something spicy lmfao

[Alisae]

oooooh lmao that would be so fun

tho how does that call out my bs specifically and not mena's

your/mena bs

[Alisae]

idk about claiming a guilty idt that ends well LMAO

it only goes really bad if ythan has a guilty on andante

[Alisae]

that's the only reason why I think it would not be a good idea but I think it is the action she would submit if she was a town tracker

[Alisae]

It's really hard to argue against that result when it's calling out your roleswap

[Alisae]

idunno how mena did it but he gave us the perfect chance to fake a guilty on the n3 vig and win game and I say we take it?

[Alisae]

idunno how mena did it but he gave us the perfect chance to fake a guilty on the n3 vig and win game and I say we take it?

wait what how

It calls out your roleswap correctly
you would think the guilty would be correct as well no?

[Alisae]

I think it's a really good play

[Alisae]

like if Andante is a wolf not aligned with you how would she know you two were roleswapping?

[Alisae]

like this play is gamewinning we have to do it

WHERE IS ANDANTE

[Alisae]

alternatively, we know ythan is a cop and look at her fucking intro post and tell me this isn't a guilty

okay
they're aligned with mith

[Alisae]

who are you going to trust
the person who said "KILL ME IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY PLAY"
or
the person who called out the roleswap correctly?

Who do you trust?

[Alisae]

ythan's guilty doesn't mean jack shit but andante's is a lot more believable than ythan's

[Alisae]

ythan was the first to soft the guilty >_>

Andante hasn't posted in thread

[Alisae]

Honestly if she has a guilty on Andante that's good I'm convinced that mith still dies

[Alisae]

lets try to think through what's the correct sequence of events
andante claims track mena to datisi and mith to mara
ythan claims lld inno andante guilty

Andante gets put in a 1v2 situation against mith and ythan.

I think it's easy to make this out as mith and ythan are aligned?

[Alisae]

what did bella claim to have picked? neighbourizer?

btw i claimed to mena that i tried for RB, that's why he claimed it in thread LMAO

ya i'm confused as to why you would do that but ok

and yes bella is neighborizer no jk

[Alisae]

we're basically on waiting for andante to claim

[Alisae]

the only way people think that's a lie is if they're a wolf with you.

You would not allow a play like this because from your pov it reveals you

it wins game

[Alisae]

now if Andante dies, one of you or mena is next.

[Alisae]

now if Andante dies, one of you or mena is next.

People are unlikely to think you because of your interactions so therefore it must be Mena!

See gg win game ez clap

[Alisae]

i mean not necessarily, andante can be a scum tracker that actually tracked me n1 and then faked a guilty n2

no wolf is picking tracker at 3rd pick

[Alisae]

i think it's a bad idea but if you wanna do it i can't stop you, it's gonna be up to you to salvage the game afterwards anyway (tho i think someone like lld would know an insane plan like that can only come from you so lole)

kill mith today wins game

kill andante
mith shoot mena, we can shoot LLD or mith
kill you next day
that leaves me bella lld mith oh god

[Alisae]

oh ya there's still ythan running around hmmmmmmmmm

[Alisae]

regardless I can think of ways to win F3 ya

[Alisae]

mith always shoots mena > you so you at least get to the next day.

[Alisae]

andante dead
mith bang bangs mena
we can bang bang mith lld ythan lets say ythan for now
dats dead
that leaves mith lld bella
that's f3 of mith bella and me?


shooting lld is mith bella me
shooting mith is bella lld me
shooting bella is me lld mith

what a hard selection

[Alisae]

does he?

Yep!

[Alisae]

mith NEVER thinks you're a wolf with Andante. It is only confirmed that 1 person in hood is a wolf so he probably shoots Mena I think!

[Alisae]

it could even be argued that both of you are wolves

[Alisae]

mith NEVER thinks you're a wolf with Andante. It is only confirmed that 1 person in hood is a wolf so he probably shoots Mena I think!

where are you getting this stuff >_>

his posts towards end of d2?

[Alisae]

and his posting now?

[Alisae]

WHERE IS ANDANTE AAAAAAAAAAH HECKIN EXAMS I HOPE SHE CHECKS IN THE WOLF PT FIRST THING

[Alisae]

also Datisi look at Mena and mith fighting about if the n3 vig should have claimed yesterday or not it's so cute look at them fighting!!!!!

[Alisae]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Alisae]

Andante waiting room

[Alisae]

ANDANTE READ THE PT

[Alisae]

HELLO

[Alisae]

PLEASE STOP POSTING TALK HERE FIRST

[Alisae]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

[Alisae]

ANDANTE PLEASE CHECK IN AND STOP POSTING IN THE FUCKING THREAD

[Alisae]

oh my fucking god please don't tell me you're one of those people that posts before reading the scum pt

I CAN'T MAN

[Alisae]

HOLY SHIT

[Alisae]

SHE KEEPS GOING

[Alisae]

Andante do not join a game with me again.

[Alisae]

oh i haven't tried the quoting thing

[Alisae]

but mith tunnel is the way I'll go

HELLO CAN YOU STOP POSTING AND POST HERE I HAVE YOUR CLAIM

[Alisae]

wow...
you claimed before checking wolf pt...
you didn't even do this in the micro that I played with you in

[Alisae]

Please do not join games I am in.

[Alisae]

you know what I can't be angry anymore.
Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.

[Alisae]

sorry I can't be angry anymore

[Alisae]

it probably ends with mith dying anyways...

[Alisae]

is that to me because Andante replaced out

[Alisae]

If so I'm sorry I made you feel that way

[Alisae]

trauma

[Alisae]

no there's no immediate pressure to play right now
we're waiting on a replacement

[Alisae]

my latest posting may make you want to do a spit take with how much you'll hate it

[Alisae]

btw Dats can you give me SOME credit for the Marashu kill.
We basically have free reign now on kills because of it and because Bella didn't pick up jk/tracker

[Alisae]

Like we can shoot whoever we want for free now
poggers

[Alisae]

i'll give you gredit when we win

OH UR MOTHA

[Alisae]

i am so fucking malding that there's no jk/tracker and that i didn't pick jailkeeper

MALDING

Really? You don't think the information that the players above you were doc was useful?

[Alisae]

I thought that information was plenty useful

[Alisae]

we yeeted the doc day 1

ya exactly we wagoned 3 different people until we found the doc ez pz

[Alisae]

and by found I mean got handed to us on a silver platter

[Alisae]

I'm so lucky that Koba and Jingle's hubris is what is going to win me this game

[Alisae]

Jjh!!!!!!

[Alisae]

Yeah we'll see how long I last here

Tbh as long as u can make it seem like ur aligned with mith and Bella, while also not aligned with me ur golden

[Alisae]

Lead me the way to El Dorado friend
Pedit: do u think u can crawl out of this and we can go onto mith?

[Alisae]

Lead me the way to El Dorado friend
Pedit: do u think u can crawl out of this and we can go onto mith?

No. When I claimed Gimli went for bulletproof it was (initially) a hail mary attempting to be able to assign some towniness to Gimli's motivation in an unconventional way

Cop is a better claim lmfao
Ya you got dealt a fucked hand I wish u we’re here d2
Just do ur best

[Alisae]

Yeah cop is a better claim but you don't always have to play that

I was really hoping to take the "everyone playing team mafia is trying to be a hero" route

Hug

[Alisae]

Maybe you can fight back and kill ythan lol
Like if wolves shot staeg to cop hunt, why didn’t they shoot ythan n2? Or even n1 because by nature of first pick ythan is bound to have something

[Alisae]

you are a champion
I just hope that mith doesn't shoot me now lmfao

[Alisae]

If I do get limmed here then I would think your only real nightkill option is to kill Ythan, right

or mith but yes

[Alisae]

Who would be the easiest person to get mith to kill for you if I could figure out the required combination of words

Mena!!!!!!!

[Alisae]

If you can get mith to shoot Mena that would be so so so good!!!!!!!!

[Alisae]

the wine play would be to leave ythan alive again and argue "what fucking mafia team wants to lose to a cop"

[Alisae]

with gimli scum, scum know to shoot Ythan. Unless they were worried Ythan picked BP and wanted to kill a 100% target so they always put us in ELO tomorrow?

[Alisae]

I'd keep that in the back pocket as a possible option if I fail at this probably quite difficult task

I gave you a team I think you could argue for with {Ythan, Datisi, mith}

[Alisae]

I see the out and the win to this day

[Alisae]

JJH I think we can actually win today if you can superhero this day phase

[Alisae]

Dats can u carry me

[Alisae]

hello i got plastered last night i haven't read shit yet since my last post in thread and likely won't be able to until like 5 hours from now because i have a midterm today LMAO

anything pressing that i need to know right now?

define pressing

[Alisae]

i don't know, literally anything that you want me to either know/do RIGHT NOW, or what you want me to know before reading later

it's not much honestly i doubt the thread will move within the next 5 hours

[Alisae]

lld wants to drag this day out as long as possible so as long as you don't post you're not in danger and no one is going to die

[Alisae]

ythan claimed thats one thing
jjh tried to see if he could get away with claiming bp, unavoidable but it is what it is. It honestly probably doesn't change anything.

ur night action was discussed

[Alisae]

i don't know, literally anything that you want me to either know/do RIGHT NOW, or what you want me to know before reading later

consider claiming you roleswapped

[Alisae]

not right now, doesn't have to be right now but
once you read up

[Alisae]

yeah we prob will, it was a gambit in the first place but i don't think it did anything mechanically anyway

honestly I think jjh can turn this around

[Alisae]

SUPERHERO
SUPERHERO

[Alisae]

But no actually Datisi thinking about this game makes me depressed

I am fucking around and I am now finding out

[Alisae]

thinking about this game makes me depressed

mafia do be like that

do you have a path to win

[Alisae]

I have a path to win today but do you have a path to win in the incoming days?

[Alisae]

i haven't read the last 10 pages what do you expect of me

no i mean in general

[Alisae]

nvm talk about it later

[Alisae]

so from my POV I think we can only hope to reach Bella and Menalque and they're gonna have LLD shouting at them the whole time

Mena is in Datisi + my pocket

[Alisae]

Bella is apparently skeptical and I think Mena could do it

[Alisae]

Datisi I don’t think ur in a position anymore where u can vote jjh?

[Alisae]

maybe not

i'm not sure if it matters

i can always get talked into it if needed lmao

I mean there’s no benefit

[Alisae]

It doesn’t save u I don’t think

[Alisae]

Okay that's good to know
I think my goal might be just to get Bella to think I'm town then

Yes if u can do this we win

[Alisae]

That probably also means convince Bella that datisi is a wolf but maybe u can find another team.
It should be very very easy to convince Bella ur town

[Alisae]

mena thinks it's lld/ythan/mith OR jjh/bella/mith and that he's kinda thinking about voting mith

i don't wanna enable him too much there in case something blows up in our face there, but

they need all 5 town votes and i'm still waiting what bella will do / hoping jjh does some magic here

That’s scary to play around lmao
Our end goal is mith today

[Alisae]

bella has me as a highest townread

or well, had, idk what she thinks now x_x

Probably still does.

[Alisae]

Mena loves us dats

[Alisae]

oh no i'm hoping mena does vote mith lole i'm just like, don't wanna directly say "yes go vote mith" because lmao

No one should be voting anyone right now
We can’t place votes, we have to left town place votes.

[Alisae]

i think i can keep mena busy by explaining just how utter shit lld's points on me are, because like they objectively are

Ya ig this is what u do

[Alisae]

Just keep and maintain the pocket

[Alisae]

I ain't no helicopter papa sink or swim

[Alisae]

I can't really do anything until I have time to read the game

I'm on lunch rn

ya no worries.

I'm kicking ass right now

[Alisae]

hey ali you're good af at endgame scumming

what do you think i should be doing

NO I'M NOT THIS IS THE BEST PERFORMANCE I'VE HAD AT THIS

[Alisae]

what should you be doing hmmmmmmmmmm

[Alisae]

Well you have a Mena pocket you can play to

[Alisae]

I think you can get away w/ a lot in hood.
Mena will not fos us.

[Alisae]

Dats a lot of what I am doing is I am putting myself in the position of
"If I am town, what is my worldview likely to be" and the conclusion I ended up reaching is the one I am currently pushing.

Ythan/LLD/Mith is probably the team you want Mena to see? We want mith dead

Like just keep working on Mena i think.

[Alisae]

It's not coming to me right away but I think you're in a position where you don't actually have to do much. You are already doing your job by playing to Mena. I'm doing what I can do by playing to LLD. JJH is going to be the real star this day phase I think.

[Alisae]

hey ali you're good af at endgame scumming

what do you think i should be doing

btw this endgame does not happen if you don't play as well as you played d1.

[Alisae]

I also think lld not liking u here plays to our favor

[Alisae]

tbh I have no idea what village is doing.
Ythan stopped doing things.
mith isn't even pushing wolves anymore, they're just reacting to me. I'm not talking to mith so ig he can't really play the game he played on d2. He should be trying to do that but I'm prepared.
LLD is playing but she trusts me so she's willing to listen to me.
Bella is thinking. They don't really seem sure at all at what to do. Super stunned.
Mena is in pocket.

[Alisae]

Datisi talk Mena into exposing the Role Swap.
If you do that and you have Mena out the role swap that's really really good

[Alisae]

mena hasn't been talking to me for a bit now i think he was busy yesterday

why's it good for us to out it sorry

If you out what I can do is I can argue that you're a wolf wanted to get roleblocker or the information that comes w/ not getting roleblocker.

[Alisae]

sorry not you specifically, Mena.
Mena has to out not you.

[Alisae]

btw datisi this is in the event that jjh dies.
You have to decide 1 of {Mith, Ythan} to play around.
If you choose to play around mith, you can probably win if you let them have Mena and then you have to try to endgame on Bella. F3 of you mith bella is what this game comes down. If you can make that mith you mena that's even better odds.

If you choose to play around Ythan, you shoot mith because he has to go.
Ythan will then have 2 clears. If she has a guilty but she likely just checks Bella and that's what I want her to do.
Day is LLD Bella Datisi Mena Ythan
People probably question why Ythan is alive, maybe they kill Ythan and force wolves to play around 1 of the two clears. Maybe you kill outside of the clears at day and bring Ythan to F3.

Either way, good fucking luck

[Alisae]

nahhh bella and mith will clown it and jjh will start playing any second now i feel it

Yes this is how we win this day phase

[Alisae]

nahhh bella and mith will clown it and jjh will start playing any second now i feel it

can I talk to literally any other player that is not mith you or ythan in game plz

[Alisae]

jjh seeing you post with that pfp makes me smile

[Alisae]

gogogogogogogogogogo!!!!!

[Alisae]

Super Hero!
Super Hero!
Super Hero!

[Alisae]

I can't wait to see jjh absolutely destroy this guy

[Alisae]

I mean u can play to lld or u can put her as a fos
You could say ythan and mith are both wolves then it can only be 1 of datisi/lld

[Alisae]

jjh seeing you post with that pfp makes me smile

Anime poirot is my favourite pfp I've ever had lmao

I can dig out the old poirotposting image bank if you like lmao

Show me

[Alisae]

Mena is very cute yes

[Alisae]

Decide whether you can keep going for mith as that's still the winning move.
If we try to get Ythan over me then I get shot and Datisi is probably the lim afterwards and you have to win the 3p.
If I end up getting limmed here then shit's fucked, I think

Oh ya we can still go for mith

[Alisae]

If I end up getting limmed here then shit's fucked, I think

if you get limmed here one of us can still win f3 but ya it's hard
have a coin flip between cop and playing to mith

[Alisae]

I think Mena would be interested in that service

[Alisae]

That seems good ya, that seems to be the team Bella sees and I think Mena was also interested in that

[Alisae]

U will kick ass

[Alisae]

Superheroes!
Superheroes!

[Alisae]

I want my mister mafiascum elim

[Alisae]

Users Mena and Bella can vote it

[Alisae]

I gotta sleep hopefully I will wake up to asses being kicked

[Alisae]

Reading through Andante's play has been painful knowing I am in this slot lmao

I imagine so

[Alisae]

Okay, I did it. I'm caught up

So we're literally just waiting for inactive townies to get play the game a bit more so we can deceive them, got it

Yes

[Alisae]

Btw it's salt awareness week

[Alisae]

I can't wait to be like "well lld, jjh sure did bring that gusto now did he"

[Alisae]

bringin that gusto god dayum

[Alisae]

ig I am avoiding thread for this day

[Alisae]

Lld just voting is like ya lmfao

[Alisae]

I want to post but I feel like I have no reason to

[Alisae]

He has to be here tomorrow

[Alisae]

I swear his v/la killed me inside

[Alisae]

I have no idea

[Alisae]

ikr dats

[Alisae]

should i even post that im not voting until lld gives me a 3rd wolf

[Alisae]

Is this the day where Mena posts

[Alisae]

Datisi I think it would be nice if you had a pulse

[Alisae]

i tried to have a pulse and unfortunately nobody gave a shit about what i had to say and lld kept spewing things about me being scum that didn't make sense and at points she said that but

i do not have the mental energy to deal with someone that's gonna scream at me

use it?

[Alisae]

my late game is terrible btw

[Alisae]

U would only do it if it was worth it

[Alisae]

U would only do it if it was worth it

Do you know how much paranoia this is gonna place on my towngame

This is full on unrestrained manipulation gremlin with explanations about what I am doing in the PT. No hiding it any more but there is no longer anything holding back my scumgame

Wolf can be really fun