BTXVI: SilverToothed SpoonFeeders Sittin' Spot (Scum PT)
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Howdy!'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Also, guessing some multiball or at least multiple 3p here.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Or no multiball lolIn post 2, Doctor Drew wrote: Also, guessing some multiball or at least multiple 3p here.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I would lean yes.
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Also, obviously I know I should protect one of you guys at night, but I wonder if I should play this as if I am town and actually protect town?
Then I have plausible deniability if someone were to track/watch me.
But I guess that is a discussion for N1.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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It is interesting that none of our roles are very scummy, or scummy at all.
I hate being the setup spec person, but I bet there are some town roles that are scummy in nature.
And some sort of rolecop type role out there.
Pre Edit: Hit Theta!
And I meant instead of protecting one of you two at night.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Also, confirmed not to be multiball'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Like if someone rolecops me and gets Doctor back, they will just assume I am town.In post 9, Doctor Drew wrote:It is interesting that none of our roles are very scummy, or scummy at all.
I hate being the setup spec person, but I bet there are some town roles that are scummy in nature.
And some sort of rolecop type role out there.
Pre Edit: Hit Theta!
And I meant instead of protecting one of you two at night.
Same with Fruit Vendor.
And Theta is basically Vanilla'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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This is tempting me to open wolf haha(although that is how I normally play as town anyways lol)'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Ahh a traitor makes sense, wonder if the fruit vendor is our conduit to finding out potentially who the traitor could be?In post 13, Theta Alpine wrote: hmmm
i would bet we have a traitor we are not informed about then
and uh
i mean peregrine is ascetic so uh
there will not be any use hitting him with doctor
but whether you target them or not i suppose depends on if uh
peregrine claims or not
complex fruit vendor is legitimately the most scummy role we have though yeah
cause it is used for role fishing
but i mean we can just
not claim the complex part
not like a role checker will find out
Also, yes the complex part makes it scummy, but a rolecop/checker wouldn't find that out(I believe).
So outside of an actual cop(or tracker to some extent), we have some avenues to avoid NK suspicion.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Oh ya, duh lol.In post 15, Theta Alpine wrote: ascetic means peregrine does not have to worry about anything but night kills
And on that subject, does make me want to just protect them every night, essentially make them invincible.
Thought, my role specifically says only prevents ONE nk.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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God dammit lol
I will need you to keep reminding me of this everyday haha'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Reminder to Drew that Peregrine is Ascetic'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Well you have the benefit of the hood.In post 20, Theta Alpine wrote: that i can do as long as i survive
Do what you can to obvTown it up in there.
Don't have much experience with your hood mates unfortunately.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I am guessing multiple 3p.
And given that our roles aren't inherently scummy, the 3p probably have the blatant scummy roles.
Again, almost guaranteed there is a town rolecop/role checker here'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Getting a bit of carefulness from TL, they usually kind of do there thing and not worry about how they are viewed.
Thinking they might be 3p, possibly a survivor since they don't want to ruffle any feathers it seems. And they kinda softed survivor as well.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Peregrine, you ending all your posts with exclamation points really puts a smile on my face.
Never change.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I want to keep Whemestar talking more, they seem to appear more suss everytime they open their mouth lol.
I feel TL is more likely not 3p now, they tend to get locked in on their reads as town.
Also was subtle, but I purposely did not call out Mala in a previous post, thinking the long game and if I were to flip.....could make her look bad.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Like I said in game, pretty much is over.In post 31, Theta Alpine wrote: i will probably continue to read tl as 3p
maybe
i am probably just going to lurk until rvs is more fully over though cause that is a lesson i need to actually learn
Norwee is the one really pushing the hydra thing(tbf, I always joke about it as well lol)'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Just make it natural and I am good.
I am a jabbing type anyways lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Theta, I kind of think it would be funny if you just voted Flippy to make up for the game that just ended lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Lol, oh ya forgot were were Hood mates with them.
Also, questioning you a bit just because, makes a little sense since I just had a brief interaction with Norwee to ask why you are scum reading them.
And I don't think you even said you are scum reading them, purposely made kind of a sloppy question there.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Well, I may have inadvertently kick-started a wagon on you Theta.
Deciding if I should join early or not.
Still early, and in a large game someone else is bound to 'scum slip' and the tide will turn towards them.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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This would be amazing if it all leads back to Frogs lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I have a feeling it will come back around to TL again as well.
If Wheme is lurky again tomorrow I definitely will call out their naked vote on Frogs today as well.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Peregrine!
Don't be a stranger here.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I am keeping light pressure on you for now.In post 47, Theta Alpine wrote: people actually seem more split on me then usual so you should be fine with town reading me
I am actually surprised I am being as universally town read as I am.
It is funny, both Klick and FB both inadvertently layed out the blueprint on how I should play here. I couldn't help but open wolf a bit when they did lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I will leave it up to you, I can see a benefit to us either way.In post 49, Theta Alpine wrote: yeah fair enough
i do not think the pressure from you will be seen as purposeful distancing though the last post did ping my town sensibilities a bit
will see if other people take issue with it
i mean i could engage on that post just not sure if we want to svs it here
it would at least start something and maybe people would see it as tvt afterwards and it would prompt something we can actually push on but hmm
But you have kinda faded to the background.
I love the dymanic now, just keep the hot potato going.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I always love the Ranger reads list portion of the game lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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On that topic, I hope Theta posts soon.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Mod
Is Theta due for a prod?
ya'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Well, not sure if D1 could have went any better.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I don't hate killing Enchant, I was leaning towards Norwee or FB though.
And given my 'scum' read on you I probably should protect town in case I am tracked.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Wall almost guaranteed a vig of some sort is here.
Probably a sk as well......wouldn't it be funny if they are sk and fake claimed sk lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Ok for now I will say kill Fire, and I will protect Norwee.
Peregrine, who are you thinking of giving fruit to?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Dragons probably, unless a wagon can be built on them.
Pre Edit: This is in response to Pere.
I suck at PR hunting, so really no idea who could be one.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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We can do that if you feel that strong about it.
I just gotta decide on who to protect then.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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I am fine either way tbh'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I unfortunately painted myself into a corner in regards to my Theta read, so if someone sees me visiting Theta there would be questions. I will try to walk it back a bit tomorrow.In post 79, Peregrine wrote: I think! If we aren’t worried about a potential kill on Theta, doctor someone it is reasonable for you to have targeted based on your D1 reads but not someone we would want dead, so I guess I am saying a low impact slot!!
But yes, I am definitely staying away from Klick/frogs/dragons/enchant, I feel like if any of those are a vig they will shoot in that pool, and even others outside that pool may shoot inside it.
I am leaning towards Kuribo/Mala, or FB if we aren't killing them.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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So tentative actions will be as such:
Theta kills Norwee
Drew protects Kitty Trauma Team(that's their name right? Lol)
Peregrine gives fruit to Dragons
Will bold it as official when we lock it it.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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I might switch to protecting Ranger, seriously doubt she will be a target of a killing action.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Ok then
Theta kills Norwee
Drew protects Ranger
Peregrine gives fruit to Dragons'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I wonder how early Boon will open Day 2.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Ah yes, you are v/la for a bit.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Well of course that backfired lol.
Never would have thought Theta would have been targeted.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Did you lie about receiving something overnight?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Ranger is making so much sense.
ModGive us the power she thinks we have haha.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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There must be some crazy 3p(s?) in this game.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I do enjoy shit posting.
Ranger just doesn't realize how deeper of a hole she keeps digging.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Huh, so Ranger fake claimed.
Alrighty then'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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For clarification, do we have a NK tonight or no?
Wasn't sure since technically we didn't target Wheme N1.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I have been thinking about if I half to claim, because you are correct just claiming doc would seem suss.
I probably will just claim a jazzed up version of a doc, maybe an odd night even night thing or 2 shot.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Yay!In post 106, Boonskiies wrote:In post 103, Doctor Drew wrote:Mod
For clarification, do we have a NK tonight or no?
Wasn't sure since technically we didn't target Wheme N1.
Yes. Neither of you are disabled.
Thank you kind sir.
Now who do we kill? KTT scares me with that vig, they even admitted they almost shot me(even though Kuribo town reads me lol?).
Could try Norwee again.
Starting to like your Enchant idea as well, they are pretty town read(except by klick really), and it is still pretty random......because who NKs Enchant?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I want to keep Klick, Frogs, Dragons, alive.
Breaking up that trio I feel opens the other two to start looking elsewhere, I want to keep the infighting for now.
I do agree that Norwee is probably protected again, but by who?
Oh also, want to keep Flippy alive for sure lol.
It is weird, but if you were not scum I would seriously consider killing you haha(just an aside, no way do I think that is the move lol).
My gut is saying Enchant, I will have to look at Kuribo's claim to see if they hinted at another bullet.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Ooh, forgot Firebringer as well.....might be an option.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Maybe we do kill Dragons if we do know they are a power role?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Ok I will go with it, was just gonna say I probably wouldn't be active the few hours before deadline and we need to make a decision anyways.
Drew protects Enchant
I did call Enchant a top town read, and I doubt they would be a vig/sk target'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Ya we are alive lol.
Wait did I call TL 3rd party in here lol?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Well if we die a fiery death at some point, at least I can hang my hat on this lol.In post 27, Doctor Drew wrote: Getting a bit of carefulness from TL, they usually kind of do there thing and not worry about how they are viewed.
Thinking they might be 3p, possibly a survivor since they don't want to ruffle any feathers it seems. And they kinda softed survivor as well.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Also Dragons just softed something about fruit.
You gave them fruit last night, correct?'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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