VCM:LME mafia PT

[Random Nurse]

Quick question: since so many are claiming their PRs should I claim mine without obvious Sum alignment or no?

[Random Nurse]

This is mine:

"you are a mafia non-consecutive enforcer! you win once no members of opposing factions are alive, or when nothing can prevent this.

each night, you may target another player. all non-killing actions targeting that player will fail. you may not use this ability two nights in a row."

[Random Nurse]

Hi Cook.

My role's pretty useless since I lose my vote o the following day.

What was your role?

[Random Nurse]

My role is I can choose a player during the day to make a one night neighborhood with. On the following day, I lose my vote.

Sounds more like a negative utility role.

Would it be better not to use it at all?

[Random Nurse]

Quick question: since so many are claiming their PRs should I claim mine without obvious Sum alignment or no?

do you think there’s a rolecop?

If I had to guess there's probably a high likelihood of there being at least one in this game.

[Random Nurse]

if so, then maybe flip enforcer to mean “all killing actions hitting your target will fail.” or roleblocked or something

could argue that it’d be countered by strong willed and thus meaningfully different from doc

I'm not so sure they'd buy that: they'd probably look it up. I'm not that good with fakeclaiming.

Would they not buy the regular enforcer claim?

[Random Nurse]

if so, then maybe flip enforcer to mean “all killing actions hitting your target will fail.” or roleblocked or something

could argue that it’d be countered by strong willed and thus meaningfully different from doc

I'm not so sure they'd buy that: they'd probably look it up. I'm not that good with fakeclaiming.

Would they not buy the regular enforcer claim?

this is interesting

enforcer doesn't mean either of those. enforcer means "when you do the kill you also roleblock your target"

so

fakeclaim it is i guess

I'm so confused.

Did the mod get my role name wrong?

Am I allowed to quote my role PM here with my teammates?

[Random Nurse]

if so, then maybe flip enforcer to mean “all killing actions hitting your target will fail.” or roleblocked or something

could argue that it’d be countered by strong willed and thus meaningfully different from doc

I'm not so sure they'd buy that: they'd probably look it up. I'm not that good with fakeclaiming.

Would they not buy the regular enforcer claim?

this is interesting

enforcer doesn't mean either of those. enforcer means "when you do the kill you also roleblock your target"

so

fakeclaim it is i guess

I'm so confused.

Did the mod get my role name wrong?

Am I allowed to quote my role PM here with my teammates?

[Random Nurse]

@ game mod, could I please have a personal PT for my thoughts?

[Random Nurse]

I'm going to play this game using more brevity: my posts will be much shorter, and no read lists.

[Random Nurse]

you can quote your role PM here. I didn't name or design any of the roles, so I have no idea what went into the choice to pick any role name.

Thank you for clarifying.

[Random Nurse]

Out of curiosity what do all the white hats in the avatars mean?

[Random Nurse]

I'm going to play this game using more brevity: my posts will be much shorter, and no read lists.

might get you killed i'm just warning you

This I've noticed. Stretched thin.

[Random Nurse]

I hope Bingle posts in here soon.

Currently reading up. On page 5. Eyes bleeding already.

[Random Nurse]

What's the benefit to the Town player in fakeclaiming Miller?

Maybe I should start doing that in my first post each time I get the green role PM.

[Random Nurse]

127 - Not sure if this is legit or just BS. Probs BS.

[Random Nurse]

205 - Bingle, does your role PM imply there might be a Cult in this game???

[Random Nurse]

Did the mod say this game is multiball or not? I know there's no Cult, but unsure on opposing Mafia team.

[Random Nurse]

Or Serial Killer, for that matter.

[Random Nurse]

think they said that the role pool was made of 4 town and 5 mafia from each listmod so...?

How does one read that? Meaning there could be two other mafia in a team in this game?

[Random Nurse]

I really *didn't* miss it, but wanted to look like oblivious Town.

[Random Nurse]

Koba's fucking annoying. Like get off my back and let me read the game BRO.

[Random Nurse]

koba kill tonight?

Maaaaaybe.

Is he that much of a threat? He's being over-reactive for Town. Needs a Xanax.

[Random Nurse]

Gotcha. They.

[Random Nurse]

I don't know Koba's play whatsoever/how to approach them.

What's your take on my posts so far? I literally read the entire gae and there's hardly anything of substance to really comment on meaningfully yet. I did give an earnest reads list even, which'll probably be discarded quickly by them.

[Random Nurse]

How freaking bizarre. Is Koba trying to piss me off? Shit. Even though I'm Scum I'm being genuine here. It took me like 3 hours to read through those 26 pages and genuinely share what I thought. Don't tell me I did nothing.

[Random Nurse]

Did the mod say this game is multiball or not? I know there's no Cult, but unsure on opposing Mafia team.

the game is guaranteed to be a single ball 4:13 setup. (the cult answer is basically that I can't guarantee that there isn't a role that functions in some sort of cult-like way — I can't make any promises regarding

any

mechanic.)

...

Hm....

OK.

...

[Random Nurse]

I would recommend you ignore DkKoba.

is this to me? how so?

Think he meant me since Koba was trying to provoke me.

[Random Nurse]

Well shit, I don't know what to massclaim.

[Random Nurse]

OK I'm just going to go for it and hope for the best. Non-consecutive Enforcer.

[Random Nurse]

I'm going to try to get into this game tonight. Completely overwhelmed with all the posts and I don't want to stand out like a nail to get hammered. Will post in the game thread tonight.

[Random Nurse]

can we just kill aureal and move on? like I kinda don't care to read more bad faith shade from them tbh LOL

Like read thru the points, they're all trying to frame things that look "weird" or "undesirable" (like stuff that appears anti-town on the surface) to push DE and it just gives "scum desperate to get an easy looking miskill through"

Is Scum!Aureal known for this, though?

I'm not sure, and I can't think very clearly now but this is a good point so I'll look into it when I feel better probably.
Please don't hammer Aureal yet.
UNVOTE: Aureal

It's not really a good point.

In a vacuum, "is X known for doing Y as <alignment>" can be a fine question.

In this case, Y is a highly subjective narrative being pushed out by certain players, not a factual thing that can readily be agreed upon.

Therefore, the person asking this question is implicitly supporting the idea that Y is true. While also trying to make the argument that it doesn't necessarily come from scum. It both undermines the credibility of my arguments by agreeing that I'm trying to frame things, while also trying to position himself as correct upon my townflip.

This is quite likely a scum pop-in, especially given Nurse's status has been at "wow I can't believe he's still in this game" so choosing this one thing to say rather than addressing anything else is pretty noteworthy.

I'm impressed by how skillfully Aureal pulled this out of their ass.

As Scum I legit was just curious, and would've asked this as Town too.