Nexus of Operations [Mini 2308 Insurgence PT]

[Enchant]

Is this monopoly game? If so, we need to get cars.

[Enchant]

Okay so.

We cannot sabotage Bureau of Investigation.
Intelligentia will give amount of mafia players (us).
Gift-giving event... I am not sure, aren't it's useless?


So sabotaging Intelligentia makes sense more.

We can use one of these (we have 30000):

Percent (FREE): 1/3 chance to fail. I would save it for later, but...
Inflitrated (10000): We learn targets. But because Intelligentia just learns amount of alive scum in game, it's useless.
Delayed (20000): Result will be on next night. Does it worth it right now?
Overcosted (20000): +50% to cost? We need to use it on something insanely costly, not 10000.

Naive (50000): We cannot afford and it also not gonna work right now as it's learn amount of scum in the game.
Cynic (70000): We cannot afford and it also not gonna work right now as it's learn amount of scum in the game.
Noxious (80000): Obviously not option. We need it later.
Redirected (50000): Not option here. There's nothing to redirect.
Morphed (60000): Okay it's interesting option but we can't afford and it's useless for now.

Only can be used with Bureau of Investigations:

Confused (70000): Well reversing results. May be useful later not now.

Amnesiac (20000): Hm. I don't get it. We get result instead? It's OP we need to keep it. Not sure if we can use it now because Bureau just getting builded?

Private (30000): Well that's not option. And i see no reason to use it whatsover. If everyone receive correct result, but we manipulate result for one player, it's kinda blatant.

Only can be used with Board of Elections:

Fraudulent (20000): Making targets doublevoters if there's more town than mafia to prevent outvoting. How useful. Not yet atleast.
Injurious (40000): Makes targets hated. Interesting there's no prevention from using it if mafia almost hit majority.

Only can be used with Board of Elections:

Defaulting (30000): It fails but cost refunded.

Lobbied (30000): Forces town to use and pay for it again. Not sureeeee.

We can sabotage for sake of sabotage, to get charge of kill faster, or we can allow it to go.

[Enchant]

Damn, not again.

[Enchant]

Hey CSF, glad to see you as well

What you think about our sabotaging? Should we do it?

[Enchant]

We cannot NK in any case, we need 2 sabotages.

[Enchant]

@mod how does Percent work with Torture?

Is it 33% chance Town will be announced as Scum or 50%?

Or if used on Scum, is it 33% flip was Town?

No it just fails and gives no result on 33% chance.
If it still success, then standart 25% 75% kicks in.

@mod: can you also explain what would happen if we use Overcosted on Torture as Town will not have enough money?

I belive it will be payed at next day.
This day they will pay 50k for torture then 25k on next day.

[Enchant]

I will be honest.

If town just votes cheapest options offered...

We. Never. Will. Be. Able. To. Nightkill.

Because they need to cost 240k so we can kill ANYONE. And we also need to not waste any money.

It's so overstaked against scum if town decides to go play it like mountanious, it's literally not funny.

[Enchant]

So don't be mad if you lose.

Game was rigged from start. Just chill. Atleast that's what i am doing.

[Enchant]

Remember that mafia can't hit back.

9:4
8:4
7:4
6:4
5:4
5:3
4:3

So basically they start with 4 chances and get additional chance for every mafia executed.
It's ridiculously townsided and balances only on mod lies which only in effect if money spent at all.


So at any cost, don't let them figure it out. Going mountanious is literally first thing i would suggest in this setup if i figured that scum needs money to kill.

[Enchant]

So we waste almost all money to prevent confirmation of FL ass.

When he can just say "it's 25% rolled promise"?

Eh. Good luck with that but i use Percent and save up Cynic on Recount. I am not saying it's bad strategy, i just don't really invest in it.

[Enchant]

Maybe just use poison for 80k then?

[Enchant]

If you want to use cynic so be it.

I am not against it. That's not what i would do though.

[Enchant]

@MOD

I correctly understand that if day starts in 4vs4, town can vote no-lim and assasination project? Game doesh't just end?

Because according to wincon and how project ties resolved (Randomly between tie), everyone alive will vote for Assasination, and then spread votes 4vs4 between townie and mafia, then it's 50/50 between which mod will assasinate.

While it's 50% chance, it still can bring town back in majority, therefore town still has chances on parity.

[Enchant]

If answer yes, you better don't quickhammer even if it brings you at parity.

[Enchant]

Oh so it's basically which faction logs first online and quickhammer.

... Really cool and fair concept which will EVERYONE FUCKING ENJOY.

[Enchant]

I’ll probably keep pushing aureal, not sure who else can be mislimmed today yet

Ideal if it’s on aureal, we just have to get FL off enchant and we’re good.

Yeah I had to vote enchant to pocket FL. Going to try to convince him elsewhere soon

Ideal if it’s on aureal, we just have to get FL off enchant and we’re good.

Alright folks. Listen to plan.

If we all pile up on sacrifice at same time and quickhammer Aureal this happens:

Aureal will die from execution. It will be 6vs4

Leaf will die from poison. It will be 5vs4.

Then we use sacrifice on townie because there will be 3+ of us on sacrifice so we have voting majority. It will be 4vs4.


Right now we can quickhammer Aureal with just 2 votes. WE NEED 3 VOTES ON SACRIFICE SO WE CAN OUTVOTE PEOPLE ALREADY VOTING HERE.


If we do this right, we win right here.

So i want you to organise on same time. Good plan?

[Enchant]

We need just 3 but having full party helps.

[Enchant]

Just quote this post to notify me you are here.

[Enchant]

Obviously there's caveat: we then also need to pile up on Assasination and No-Lim. THEN we win.

[Enchant]

This plan works as long as there's no more than 3 towns healing sacrifice (because 4 bigger than 3) and as long as some hapless townie can be quickhammered (which need to have 2 votes on them).

[Enchant]

MOD

Can we have discord server actually for better organisation?

[Enchant]

^^^ JOIN IT'S MANDATORY.

[Enchant]

Ideal if it’s on aureal, we just have to get FL off enchant and we’re good.

Yeah I had to vote enchant to pocket FL. Going to try to convince him elsewhere soon

Join discord in haste, you can stop posting in main thread. We need to act now.

[Enchant]

I don't use discord much. But I can vote now if you want me to?

Okay. That's suffice. Be online for next 10 minutes atleast.

[Enchant]

I'm here so let me know

use Hurt on sacrifice.

Optionally add message like "I think we need to use sacrifice anyway".

Then we follow.

Go!

[Enchant]

DON'T VOTE AUREAL. ONLY HURT SACRIFICE.

[Enchant]

Done!

[Enchant]

Now last thing we need to do is organise at end of night and then vote No-Lim and Hurt Assasinate so town can't get back.

And we win.

[Enchant]

Mostly sacrificing anyone is ok.

But ideally we would want to sacrifice active players who are often online and not touch lurkers who can sleep until we vote Assasinate.

[Enchant]

Let's

Sabotage Recount with Percent

in case something goes wrong, we can night kill tomorrow. what do y'all think

Kill costs 120k. We wasted all money.

We get at most 60k by tomorrow. So we either win or we don't.

[Enchant]

If you want go sabotage for sake of sabotage then let's go, but we NEED to pile up on assasinate.

[Enchant]

Oh nvm i am dumb (totally).

Sabotaging is good. Do it.

[Enchant]

RCE didn't arrive.

[Enchant]

@Mod

We can use Redirection on Assasination?
Because it doesh't "prevent" assasination and it goes as planned, killing target. It's just target is different.

[Enchant]

But sacrificing mods is funny.

[Enchant]

We kill meow.
Town assasinates me.


When day starts, you all pile up on sacrifice (THANKFULLY WITH ENIGMA WHO WILL BE HERE YES?) and no lim. Then you sacrifice townie.

If it fails, obviously they can't sacrifice Insurgent so next day you vote for assasinate again. IF YOU FAIL WE LOSE.

[Enchant]

sacrifice is developement?

[Enchant]

Wait assasinate is also developement.

[Enchant]

Wait.

Sacrifice is not developement it's misc.

So there will be no assasinates anymore?

[Enchant]

Aha. Then it will be harder.

[Enchant]

If we get 50k we mostly win, because we can afford Redirection and just force town to buff mafia/attack town.

[Enchant]

Vote for Injunction next day.

Town will likely follow suit and try to powergrab it.

THEN redirect it on town.


If it works out, next day just vote for sacrifice and vote out townie via plurality they could't hammer.

[Enchant]

If you managed to get majority on Injunction then simple don't sabotage and use it on town. You have majority of votes anyway.

[Enchant]

It should work out even if Enigma sleeps again and it will be 2vs3 on project.

3 town voting Injunction will think they control game.

THEN you redirect this project on town.

Knowing how silly they are, they will never try to spread.

[Enchant]

... But just in case i make plan for spreads:
Pile up on Injunction+No Lim tomorrow. Use it on Town if you got majority. It works as long as atleast 2 mafia voted here so Enigma can as well continue sleeping but it's better if they do help.

Then:
If 3 town hurt Injunction (3 town vs 2/3 Insurgents), gg just redirect it on town, then hurt Sacrifice and vote Town (Don't no-lim just vote townie). We win.

If 2 town hurt Injunction, and 1 town hurt something else (depends on project):
Investigative: Just redirect Injunction on town. Then vote out town and hurt sacrifice. We win.
Appointed Jury: It gives 1 vote. So redirect it and make all scum Jury. Mafia at worst will have 3.5 votes, while town has 3 votes. Vote townie and hurt sacrifice. We win.
Election Security: Don't sabotage anything. Just pile up on Sacrifice+No lim next day. Redirect Sacrifice on town if they overvoted you here. We win.
Mayor election: Redirect MAYOR on Mafia. Then depending of luck with Injunction, we should either win on the spot with majority or have another tie.
If it's tie, pile up on sacrifice and no-lim. It doesh't matter if it goes or not (it's just to fool town and force them to vote here as well): If town try to act smart and actually spread votes (2 for sacrifice and 1 for voting project which get them majority) just sabotage it with DELAYED. You should hold majority for day until project kicks on so vote townie and hurt Council Security/Depending on what they voted, so their project will never matter. We win.
Misc (watch/marriage): Just redirect Injunction on town and vote out townie+hurt sacrifice. We win.
Developements: Just redirect Injunction on town and vote out townie+hurt sacrifice. We win.

If 1 town hurt Injunction: We win, just sabotage their other project.


So. As long as 2 mafia vote Injunction tomorrow we almost always win. So don't sleep!

[Enchant]

If they hurt sacrifice, then just redirect Sacrifice on town. We win.

[Enchant]

Remember: I will be not here next game day for obvious reasons so if you have questions (ANY) or you don't understand something don't be afraid to ask.

[Enchant]

Sorry about dropping the ball here, power went out at 6 am this morning so no charge for anything and I tipped the day off with a car accident that totaled both vehicles (not at fault and everyone is ok)

You will be here at start of next day?

[Enchant]

@mod what happens if both injunction and election security are picked same day? Or can only one be voted for?

Injunction will have no effect, but we still get money.

So if they voted election security, vote Sacrifice on next day and redirect it on town if you didn't get majority.

[Enchant]

It's mostly theories.

Most likely town will blindly try to outvote you on Injunction.

[Enchant]

TLDR:
Only Injunction went as project: Redirect it on town if you have no majority in project, start voting out town and hurt sacrifice.

Injunction and:
Appointed Jury: Redirect Appointed Jury on 3 mafia members. Vote out townie and hurt sacrifice.
Election Security: Don't sabotage anything. Next day, hurt Sacrifice+No Lim. Redirect Sacrifice on town if you have no majority in project.
Mayor election: Redirect Mayor on Mafia. If Injunction randomly cut mafia vote by half, hurt sacrifice and no-lim. If approtiate, sabotage their other project with Delayed. Next day you should have majority dye Mayor. Start voting out town and hurt sacrifice.
Any other: Redirect Injunction on Town. Start voting out town and hurt sacrifice.

[Enchant]

Gonna recheck if everything correct

[Enchant]

Yes everything correct.

[Enchant]

Well he is not in discord.

[Enchant]

TLDR:
Only Injunction went as project: Redirect it on town if you have no majority in project, start voting out town and hurt sacrifice.

Injunction and:
Appointed Jury: Redirect Appointed Jury on 3 mafia members. Vote out townie and hurt sacrifice.
Election Security: Don't sabotage anything. Next day, hurt Sacrifice+No Lim. Redirect Sacrifice on town if you have no majority in project.
Mayor election: Redirect Mayor on Mafia. If Injunction randomly cut mafia vote by half, hurt sacrifice and no-lim. If approtiate, sabotage their other project with Delayed. Next day you should have majority dye Mayor. Start voting out town and hurt sacrifice.
Any other: Redirect Injunction on Town. Start voting out town and hurt sacrifice.

Addition: If they voted sacrifice for some insane reason, redirect sacrifice.

[Enchant]

Hurt Injunction ASAP and vote No-Lim. If you get 2 hurts on Injunction faster than town, we already won.