Mini Theme 2312: PiggyGal15/Vanderscamp hood

[PiggyGal15]

Hello hello my minion! I am Vortox, so if there's no execution we can get an easy win and town is gonna be befuddled with a bunch of false info, so that's a nice bonus. We've got Town Crier, Juggler and Clockmaker as free claims, I'm thinking one of us should be clockmaker and claim that the demon and minion are 1 (or 2) away from each other? Might help if one of us gets sussed out?

[PiggyGal15]

The only tell of Vortox that could be provable is that results won't be accurate, which, if I'm understanding the game correctly, can also happen when someone is drunk or poisoned? So it gives us a bit of leeway I think? It's going to be really hard for town to definitively prove Vortox, aside from us winning with a no vote!

[PiggyGal15]

I feel like claiming Town Crier gets very confusing very fast unless I have a specific person I'm trying to pin as the minion. Which I suppose I could do with Infinity? Really hammer down that Infinity is the evil twin? And with you as "Oracle" you can claim after Infinity is gone that an evil is dead? I think that might be our best option for claims.

Yeah, it's easier for me cause Hu Tao and I are just talking Genshin rn, so there's no risk of me accidentally sending them anything useful lmao but I imagine you and Ani are actually talking game, so yeah, be careful!

[PiggyGal15]

Makes sense for me to vote, I just don't know if we want to end Day so early or not.

And yeah, I've been thinking of whether or not I should fake "false" results, and I think trying to pretend we're not in a Vortox game is going to be too complicated and will probably lead to us getting outed. I think winning by killing Infinity is probably our easiest way here right now, so we should def lean into that.

[PiggyGal15]

So, with this day, Flowergirl will know that: Random Nurse, AniX, atsi, HighPrincessErinys, and Hu Tao are (after learning there's a Vortox) not the demon. Town Crier will know if Random Nurse is the minion - if we are going with Infinity as Evil Twin (which still checks out with Flowergirl), we can't push EITHER atsi or Erinys as demon... I think we really need to figure out who (or even if we have) the Flowergirl is and kill them before they can fully give results after Vortox comes out.

OR

we push Infinity as the demon? With counter-claims for oracle, it would be the demon claiming the evil twin's good twin power? That way atsi or Erinys could still be the minion, and demon and minion are beside each other?

[PiggyGal15]

Oh wait, I guess you can still talk after death, so killing the Flowergirl won't help us much... hmmm

[PiggyGal15]

I've claimed nothing to Hu Tao yet. I think if I did a possibilities claim, I'd probably put forth that I'm Flowergirl/Town Crier/Seamstress/Juggler - makes sense that we would both agree to make public juggler guesses then.

I agree that me being a Juggler wouldn't box us in as much going forward, and we wouldn't have to worry about me trying to fake Town Crier results every night.

I'm thinking we kill Erinys or atsi tonight, what do you think?

[PiggyGal15]

Yeah, my guess was just copy the player list, delete the players I think are town - Nurse and Ani guesses as their claims, and the rest just goes down the minion list. I suppose I should probably switch it to going down the demon list instead?

[PiggyGal15]

Yeah, I changed it to something I think is far more useful information.

[PiggyGal15]

I think I'll claim 3 correct, I think that'll sow the most chaos. Killing Erinys makes sense to me.

[PiggyGal15]

I think Infinity maybe just doesn't understand the game? Surely he was told he's a twin, right? But... maybe not?

[PiggyGal15]

Lmao, might not even matter if Erinys picks you as Klutz!

[PiggyGal15]

Hu Tao in our private thread told me they know I'm the demon at the start of day and needed to tell them what my role is, I said I had already claimed in full in thread and asked what relevant info they had gotten, and Hu Tao just said "I asked first :p"

So I genuinely have no idea what info Hu Tao could've gotten?
If she's Dreamer - would Vortox make both roles given not what their target is?
If she's Flowergirl - she would have gotten Yes to a demon in: Random Nurse, AniX, atsi, HighPrincessErinys - which if she thinks there's a Vortox would make the demon me/you/Infinity.
If she's Savant - would both things they learn be false with Vortox?
If she's Seamstress - she probably got a Yes to me & her being the same alignment and believes there's a Vortox.

I think with the way Hu Tao has been acting, it's most likely they're a seamstress and targeted me & her.

[PiggyGal15]

Oh no, Hu Tao has nothing, lmao

[PiggyGal15]

If you're around close to deadline, we can probably just both vote for you and tie and win with a no execution. But only if we're both here in 3 hours, I don't think we risk it before there's like, 10 mins left of day.

[PiggyGal15]

Shame, this could've been such an easy win if you were online