Datisi's University [dead/spec PT]
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Damn, I was relatively eager to get into day 2 for once too"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Mainly because I was gonna have a fun conversation with Alisae who replaced into a town slot but oh well"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Guess I'm not too bothered if Ali is gonna sheep my reads anyway.
My death there probably implies
1. I was on to something
2. The people who were vocal about scumreading me were scum
which I think points at Fire Assassin twice
I already have a psychology degree anyway"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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That was indeed a pretty wild RCE take.
My reminder on submitting numbers was because I recalled someone not doing it right last game. Nothing to do with being a PR because as you can probably tell from reading my flip I was basically a VT from my perspective."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Dann has felt town to me the whole time"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I'm most concerned that in relation to my death 2 separate players felt the need to clarify it totally wasn't because of my read accuracy, and the game as a whole has since avoided doing anything I would have approved of"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Spoiler: Poirotposting"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I don't think it's strange that people who keep missing would be left alive for the first couple of phases. You might also note that neither are quite universally townreadIn post 58, Aristeia wrote: kind of think its wild that Dannflor + GuiltyLion seem to be universally townread, have thread control, have hit no scum, and aren't being targetted by nightkills.
Gamestate-wise scum had the option to do whatever this night phase because barring night actions, regardless of who they kill, the lim was gonna be Ranger"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Neither would I
That was just the direction things were going in"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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You were pretty doomed there tbh"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Oh is this the part where they complain about how much power town has after seeing like 4 flips"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Have scum tried doing any maths to figure out how many PRs there are actually doing things
Given the claims at this point it should be super easy to get more setup info"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I am 100% certain that has to be a scumslip, yeah"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Town would literally never encounter SPR as an acronym except in the rules lmao"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Wouldn't be surprised if in Titus' brain the S probably stands for studying"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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How is wheme still alive"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Based on how Wheme is claiming I can only assume you must have delivered his role information over multiple different PMs"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Hey look people are finally actually remembering that I had reads before I got killed on N1"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Is it to do with claimed neapolitan Furtiveglance having a VT result on claimed neighbouriser Wheme"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Oh never mind that was in the previous day phase
He did kinda make this post saying that a PR that had fully studied at 100% every day would get an ambiguous result, then later this one saying nah it's fine but that was all week 4"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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In post 191, jjh927 wrote: Oh never mind that was in the previous day phase
He did kinda make this post saying that a PR that had fully studied at 100% every day would get an ambiguous result, then later this one saying nah it's fine but that was all week 4
ebwop for links being same post"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Spoiler: Correct answer"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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So yeah obviously the other one is Titus talking about SPR lmao"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Spoiler:"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Spoiler:"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I still have no idea why mafia prioritised killing you under those circumstances regardless but I imagine the scum PT will be a more interesting read for me than the main game thread"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Town don't even need to wake up
The Titus slip was so blatantly obvious that Titus is a definite lim.
From there,Spoiler:"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Spoiler: End of day"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I'm not actually that bothered if town veers off a cliff because I'll still get to say I told you so"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Looks like they're gonna do the expected thing though
And then who knows wrt wheme"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Sure as hell is not sheeping dead me
I had such high hopes"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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You know why we didn't kill scum on day 1? Because literally nobody else wanted to do Whemestar and RCE was the only one who wanted to do furtive."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I said I didn't care that much, but if they begrudgingly do furtive now they're gonna not do wheme maybe even at all and it's going to kill me inside if we lose because of that"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Seems it did a little, yeah"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Good stuff, they finally ended the day"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Interesting that you'd go in that direction, Dannflor, given I'd say you were the practical reason I couldn't get any eliminations through on day 1. And eliminating scum on day 1 is a core facet of my town strategy
Reality is that the scumteam needs to be robust. As an individual you can't work with everyone, and you will end up being suspicious to the people you don't work with. That group will often contain some mechanical threats. Your team as a whole needs to be able to play the odds for that, not you specifically. Sure, there is always more you could have done- but you were basically the only scum player with significant thread influence and you used it effectively.
Like, look at my week 1 readslist
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How come I didn't get any of the eliminations I wanted? Because you basically led the voting block that consisted of most of my core townreads. And it's not a total coincidence that Andres, being the one town I misplaced, was the dude who guiltied you. Basically, he was in a different sphere of influence from the one you had to operate in to prevent your buddies getting killed. Partly due to him falling behind, because that made it unclear what box he was gonna fall into. Had it not gone like it did, Andres could have been a viable mislim at some point.
But yeah, night actions are informed by dayplay. The only night action that was particularly bad for scum was Andres shooting Dannflor. Everything else was either an inevitable outcome of setup or, in the case of the enchant kill, an avoidable mistake by the scumteam"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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You believed word for word the most likely player to lie about mechanics in the game and let that inform your kill for the night"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Spoiler: Poirotposting"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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It may not be as hard as you think"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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This game in particular
But maybe the latter too given there are often games like this that people overthink"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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It spoils in the sense that one of them scumslipped at a point in the game
Do you think you can narrow it down from those 2"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Amusingly furtive also flubbed his fakeclaim, claiming both that he could not and that he could get a result on a player who had a a PR but had not gained points
Which means literally the only scum player who managed not to scumclaim was dannflor who got guiltied"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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NahIn post 271, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Did Wheme TMI on Day 1 I remember there was a big argument about him.
Nobody alive noticed the particular scumclaim"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Ignore the scumslip thing for now
Which do you think is scum by play? Wheme or Osuka?"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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You might want to check your maths there Enchant
Wheme Park is 1v7 right now including 2 conftowns. That's over 60% town win if town had 0 additional information"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Like, that's pretty bad mechanically too
But obviously we're also dealing with an endgame and the thing with probabilities is that they're more appropriate at the start of the game to broadly determine 'fairness', rather than at the end of a game when everyone's reads should be significantly above chance"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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The 3 elims take place sequentially and it's a 1/6 followed by a 1/5 followed by a 1/4"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Ah wait, maybe I'm the one being dumb here. The confs mean that the NK is irrelevant"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Yeah forget that. Pure chance is definitely 50%
Makes sense that one could surmise the probability as which half of the playerlist wheme is in, which is a coinflip"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I guess on the other hand, 50% random chance win odds are pretty stacked for town in practice"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle
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