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Post Post #2194 (isolation #200) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:58 am

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Yeah Ausuka and Archwing both need to die. Nictis too.
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Post Post #2197 (isolation #201) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:59 am

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In post 2195, Gamma Emerald wrote:Let's just be silent and wait for the night to confirm or deny our suspicions. No point in talking at this point, seems like we're just talking in circles.
Agreed. What we really need is for Assemble to get in here and move us to night so I can shoot Red.
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Post Post #2199 (isolation #202) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:05 am

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In post 2198, TwoInAMillion wrote:If Pine is a SK we can leash him.
I'm not, and will under no circumstances submit to being leashed. If allowed to survive to D6 per the original plan, I'm shooting according to my gut. Not consensus.
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Post Post #2200 (isolation #203) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:07 am

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To clarify, I am open to discussion on targets, but I do not shoot by committee.
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Post Post #2205 (isolation #204) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:10 am

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:facepalm:

TIAM you have been actively bad this game. Stop being dumb.
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Post Post #2207 (isolation #205) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:12 am

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Except you've been wrong about practically everything this game, and continue to be. We have a guilty on one scum and an admission from another, and you're voting me.

Stop being dumb.
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Post Post #2211 (isolation #206) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:15 am

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In post 2208, TwoInAMillion wrote:This could be quickly resolved by you agreeing to being leashed like any suspected SK should be willing to do.
That's actually never a good idea. Town should never agree to have their actions dictated to. It's an abdication of their agency, particularly as the only person I know 100% is Town is me.

"Leashing" is a ploy we tell SKs to trick them into being useful. Real vigilantes should never agree to it.
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Post Post #2222 (isolation #207) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:42 am

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Inferno is absolutely right. Midwagon is where you expect scum bussing.

PE: Frankly, if anyone deserves credit for the D2 wagon on profii, it's me. We were set to run up Beef, and I insisted on profii. Yeah, others agreed, but I started that one. Nice try, TIAM.
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Post Post #2224 (isolation #208) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:59 am

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Again, let's let assemble get here and see if we're in endgame. All of this fearmongering may be moot.
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #209) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:53 am

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Limited-shot SK is not really a thing.

Why in the fuck would scum kill Beef? Literally no one thought he was Town.
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Post Post #2243 (isolation #210) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:45 am

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In post 2242, Archwing wrote:Omg stop twilight talking
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Post Post #2246 (isolation #211) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:11 am

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I could be convinced to policy vig both
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #212) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:31 pm

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In post 2249, Mulch wrote:WE ARE ALLOWED TO TWILIGHT TALK

Someone please say happy cake day to me
You didn't wish me a happy birthday, so no.

Oh fine.

Happy scumday! :D :D
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #213) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:33 pm

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We're allowed to twilight talk, but the wait is spinning us into conspiracy theories and personal attacks.

There's a very solid chance the game is over.
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Post Post #2258 (isolation #214) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:11 pm

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In post 2257, Archwing wrote:I have something important to share tomorrow if we are still alive
...k
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Post Post #2269 (isolation #215) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:52 pm

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This is the PM I sent to Assemble, wherein I gamesolve in real time.
Are you FUCKING kidding me? There's actually a serial killer?

I am so mega-boned.

Okay. All previous reads are out the window, except probably Fire, who claimed Cop. He doesn't claim unprovoked like that, especially not before mafia is eliminated. That puts neighborhood back in play. In fact, a T/T/M/SK neighborhood makes sense.

So because we've seen no kills which can be conclusively labeled SK, my guess is that N1, their kill was stopped, blocked, overlapped, or something.

Then I claimed D2, and they likely no-killed, setting me up as a fall guy.

So whomever it is, they're likely a pro. That rules out Inferno and (probably) TIAM, leaving GEmerald as the last neighbor. He's a good candidate. Same logic probably eliminates Nictis, Archwing, and Theta Alpine.

Mulch and Ausuka come to mind. I don't know if Mulch has the self-discipline to hold his fire, but Ausuka does. I don't think Mulch would have been quite as aggressive going after scum if he were SK. At the beginning, sure, but he practically declared holy war on the mafia team.

Firebringer self-eliminates. Depending on how his results are worded (Innocent/guilty, mafia/not mafia etc) that may hard clear Flubber and NSG. I'll have to check with Fire about that, because you're not likely to tell me (even though you've really kind of screwed me here.)

Alternatively, I'm wondering if a kill was stopped because Mafia shot a BP SK. That opens up the TIAM-Inferno-Nictis-Archwing-Theta pool. I'll have to go back and look at ancillary claims like who blocked whom (come to think of it Theta's blocker claim probably hard rules him out.) A mafia shot on the SK, though, may have used up a 1-shot BP. I'll have to go back through mafia statements as well, especially Red's twilight WIFOM, to see if I can guess their intended kill N2.

Barring a revelation from that, my primary suspect pool is Ausuka and Gamma Emerald.

Subject to changing my mind:
Shoot Ausuka
. Her insistence that there was an SK and desire to pin it on me is hella suspicious.

Edit: Oh, Theta claimed Tracker, not blocker. That's vaaaaaguely plausible for SK, but unlikely. His results corroborate Fire's claims, and reduced chance of a blocked kill.
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Post Post #2270 (isolation #216) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:55 pm

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Ohhhh, the Loyal modifier is what made the Cop not overpowered. They don't get results on scum, SK, or any of the various Ascetic roles.
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Post Post #2272 (isolation #217) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:58 pm

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Well, let's see the full setup before we discuss balance. I suspect there's a lot of things out there that counter lots of other things.
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Post Post #2275 (isolation #218) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:03 pm

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Ah, PTs are unlocked but not linked.

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Post Post #2278 (isolation #219) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:10 pm

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N3
Ausuka shoots Firebringer and rolestops Archwing (Firebringer dies)
Firebringer has not submitted
Theta Alpine tracks Mulch (Mulch went nowhere)
Pine shoots Ausuka (Ausuka dies)
Archwing jails Ausuka (fails)
northsidegal hides behind Mulch

Wow. Ausuka rolestopping Archwing got her killed.
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Post Post #2281 (isolation #220) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:15 pm

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Oh right, the jailkeep wouldn't have mattered anyway. Only her commute could have saved her.
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