Mini 588: Achewood Mafia - Game Over!
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OMGUS is "Oh My God You Suck", not Stupid. My vote was not OMGUS, because OMGUS's do not have sufficient reasoning and are basically random votes. I have reasoning, and pretty damn good reasoning. You were being dumb by claiming cult recruiter. Cults, by the way, are generally considered a scum group. Thus, I define you as scum. Scum gets lynched.Lemming1607 wrote:Well lets look at what PBuG did.
OMGUS is "Oh My God Your Stupid". Most of the time this is in reference to someone voting someone because oh my god they're voting me.
PBuG is voting me because "oh my god lemming's stupid". He is committing OMGUS which is a blatant scumtell.
scum found day 1 guys lets get emrolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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If he's not serious, he's just being fucking stupid and should die for that sake of keeping the town smarter than the scum.OG Smokedank wrote:
yous fucking dumb if you think he was seriousPBuG wrote:
OMGUS is "Oh My God You Suck", not Stupid. My vote was not OMGUS, because OMGUS's do not have sufficient reasoning and are basically random votes. I have reasoning, and pretty damn good reasoning. You were being dumb by claiming cult recruiter. Cults, by the way, are generally considered a scum group. Thus, I define you as scum. Scum gets lynched.Lemming1607 wrote:Well lets look at what PBuG did.
OMGUS is "Oh My God Your Stupid". Most of the time this is in reference to someone voting someone because oh my god they're voting me.
PBuG is voting me because "oh my god lemming's stupid". He is committing OMGUS which is a blatant scumtell.
scum found day 1 guys lets get emrolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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IT'S NOT OMGUS!
OMGUS is a baseless vote that is equivalent to a random vote. It means "Oh my God you suck." NOT STUPID. That being said:
A cult recruiter claim is just stupid! If you're serious, you're a scum group. Thus, you get lynched. If you aren't serious, you gave no indication of it.
Also, even if you were lying. which I do NOT believe you were, you just set a trap for someone to jump on and are now strongly advocating a lynch based on protown behaviour that you're trying to discredit.rolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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Led toLemming1607 wrote:ok guys I'm a cult recruiter who wants me to recruit them onto the winning team.
I ask this because some people don't think cults are "ethical" so I'd rather give you guys the choice.
So who's in?
Which led toPBuG wrote:...Vote: Lemming1607Either you're dumb, or... Well, yeah, you're dumb either way.
Rather than say "Oh, I was joking" he jumps right on me, saying that my vote was a scumtell.Lemming1607 wrote:
so you're reason for voting me is because you think I'm dumb? Is that supposed to be a scumtell?PBuG wrote:...Vote: Lemming1607Either you're dumb, or... Well, yeah, you're dumb either way.
How about someone looking for an easy target to lynch? Looks like a scumtell to me.
Vote: PBuG
In my book, claiming scum is definitely a scumtell.rolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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Um, don't put words in my mouth. I would have removed my vote if you had explained you were joking rather than voting me in return. Now you're overanalyzing every little thing I say because (if you are mafia rather thn what you actually claimed) I fell for your claim. I no longer think you were claiming seriously after noticing you've been here long enough to know better, but you also didn't actually state that it was a joke until post 51. I'll admit, I wasn't thinking when I posted at first, but your response to my vote was incredibly scummy.rolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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Where did I say it was a jokevote?!?!??!?!?! I said no such thing, and you are once again putting words in my mouth. I am dissatisfied, vote stays.Lemming1607 wrote:
I think its quite possible that you were also joking, and hadn't considered that. What I didn't like was your response to my next post. You were defending your first vote on me, as if you weren't joking. I shall explain:PBuG wrote:Um, don't put words in my mouth. I would have removed my vote if you had explained you were joking rather than voting me in return. Now you're overanalyzing every little thing I say because (if you are mafia rather thn what you actually claimed) I fell for your claim. I no longer think you were claiming seriously after noticing you've been here long enough to know better, but you also didn't actually state that it was a joke until post 51. I'll admit, I wasn't thinking when I posted at first, but your response to my vote was incredibly scummy.
this quite possibly could've been PBuG joking, except for his next post after I voted for him:PBuG wrote:...Vote: Lemming1607Either you're dumb, or... Well, yeah, you're dumb either way.
You are backing up your early vote for me while saying you had damn good reasoning for voting me. This implies your first vote wasn't a joke vote, which you are claiming it was on page 3. So now you're backpedaling.PBuG wrote:
OMGUS is "Oh My God You Suck", not Stupid. My vote was not OMGUS, because OMGUS's do not have sufficient reasoning and are basically random votes. I have reasoning, and pretty damn good reasoning. You were being dumb by claiming cult recruiter. Cults, by the way, are generally considered a scum group. Thus, I define you as scum. Scum gets lynched.Lemming1607 wrote:Well lets look at what PBuG did.
OMGUS is "Oh My God Your Stupid". Most of the time this is in reference to someone voting someone because oh my god they're voting me.
PBuG is voting me because "oh my god lemming's stupid". He is committing OMGUS which is a blatant scumtell.
scum found day 1 guys lets get em
With these two posts, I don't see how you can say your first vote on me was a jokevote.
A combination of misunderstanding Lemming's original post and really wanting to vote for Smokedank.populartajo wrote:
What made you change your mind?PbuG wrote:If Lemming responds to my latest post in a way that satisfies me I will heavily consider changing my vote.
Commentary on the latest Smokedank interactions:
Smokedank: Lack of reasoning?!? Kettle, meet pot. Your reasoning for your current vote:
OG Smokedank wrote:vote demonkinghe's scum yoOG Smokedank wrote:
look at yall protectin your buddypopulartajo wrote:Vote OG Smokedank
This is totally random, yo.
normally i dont like snitchin but demonking is the real deal yo why you gotta be protectin him like that
I mean, c'mon. And your finally putting forth reasoning, which, though there is a thread of truth, it's mostly grasping at straws.OG Smokedank wrote:alsounvote vote alabaska j
replaced demonking who is scumrolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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Thank you, Lemming.
Unvote, Vote: OG
I've already given sufficient reasoning as to why I should vote for her.
OG Smokedank wrote:i dont have anything to even defend against.
the only person who has stated why i am scummy is alabaska j and his reasons are bullshit (he says i have been bandwagoning, and trying to speedlynch which i didnt do)
the only other thing anyone else has said is that i havent been scumhunting but i just caught alabaska j making shit up to explain his vote
False. See post 85.
False. Alabaska J is putting forth sufficent reasoning, and, well, malthusis is mildly scummy but not enough to grab my vote.OG Smokedank wrote:now you are making shit up because you havent asked me any questions for me to defend against.
i think you are scum, alabaska j is scum and if i had to pick a third scum i'd go with lemming based on gut
again i will bold this:both alabaska j and malthius are MAKING SHIT UP to get you to vote me, neither one has actually given truthful reasons for why i am scummyrolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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He's not trying to speedlynch, he's trying to lynch without reasoning. Sppedlynching is piling votes on very quickly causing an extremely fast lynch.Alabaska J wrote:How are you not trying to speedlynch!!! You random-voted me and then kept it on after the stage ended even when my predecessor hadn't posted and encouraged others to vote too! Then, when random voting was over, you kept your vote on me even after I replaced and had not yet posted, even switching your vote! Then, you attacked me after I voted you for doing all this crazy stuff.rolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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He was giving the wrong name to something that you were, in fact, doing. 2 s true, as you were insistent on him being scum and trying to get people to vote for him. 3 isn't a point, just something silly.OG Smokedank wrote:heres the thing pbug i never claimed to have reasoning when i first voted, it was more or less random to guage reactions and thats what haoppened, look at how alabaska j is equating my random reasonless vote with "quicklynching" and "trying to start a bandwagon" when thats not at all what i'm doing
False. Alabaska J is putting forth sufficent reasoning, and, well, malthusis is mildly scummy but not enough to grab my vote.
what is his reasoning and how the fuck is it sufficient, his two points against me were 1) i'm speedlynching (a lie), 2) i'm trying to start up a bandwagon (false at the time he said it) and 3) i kept my vote on him while speaking about other people (this doesnt indicate alignment at all)
how is that sufficient reasoning for a lynch
Illiterate? Kettle, meet pot AGAIN. Insulting people is not helping you at all. The point is, now you have reasoning because it suddenly became necessary for you to have something behind your vote.OG Smokedank wrote:
i have reasoning with my vote now but i suppose its hard to read if youre illiteratePBuG wrote: He's not trying to speedlynch, he's trying to lynch without reasoning. Sppedlynching is piling votes on very quickly causing an extremely fast lynch.rolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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You gave no inclination that your vote was a joke. You do not keep random votes on that long when there are actual things going on.
You've POSTED more than anyone in the thread. The first half of this game you've been making dumb jokes to try and tell me I'm wrong, piggybacking on Lemming. Now you're just defending yourself, very badly.
I have made accurate attacks on your actions with quoted posts. You dismiss them as false with no reasoning as to why it is false, other than saying you didn't post that when it has been quoted.rolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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...No, it wasn't an obvious joke considering it seems a good portion of the players believed it was serious. A reasonless vote that you are absolutely sure of is, well, pretending to be AniX (but you're a newb, so you don't get that joke). And I feel stupid for having kept my vote on Lemming so long when you were acting incredibly scummy.OG Smokedank wrote:my vote was an obvious joke, and i went as far as to say that i didn't think you guys had a sense of humor because you all thought i was serious. how can a reasonless vote that i am absolutely sure of be anything other than a joke? you should honestly feel stupid for not getting it
...No, you haven't posted the most content. Stop passing things off as truth because you say so, and instead, prove them with textual evidence.i've posted more content than anyone in this thread. i've called out the people i consider scummy (malthisus and alabaska j) and made points as to why they have been scummy. i've also defended myself repeatedly against a case built on nothing.
Yes, I DO, and I've GIVEN IT. You have rejected it in favour of calling me (and everyone else) stupid. I am voting for you because you are scummy.here's the thing: you have NO argument as to why anything i have done makes me SCUM over TOWN. nobody has made a coherent argument to that effect. are you lynching me because i am SCUMMY or because i am STUPID? if your argument is that i am STUPID SCUM, what is preventing me from being STUPID TOWN? if your argument is that i am STUPID ANYTHING and need to be lynched because of it, you really should quit playing mafiarolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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Someone get this woman a recording contract.OG Smokedank wrote:demonking, got a lot of bling
cuz he shootin up townies like it aint no thing
pop a cap in our asses, make us scream n sting
lurkin in the thread cus he not posting
now normally a nigga like OG dont snitch
but its time to toss demonking in a ditch
so gather up yall cuz its time to pitch
some votes up on this mothafuckin mafia bitchrolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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I already said why several times. She's voted with no reasoning then backtracked, and she's been opportunistic with her suspicions. She also was very buddy-buddy with Lemming and then suddenly jumped away and now thinks Lemming is scum, without very concise reasoning.
The part I highlighted is a major red flag. She's basically admitting that she kept her vote on because it was easy.OG Smokedank wrote:alabaska j and malthisus saw me as an easy opportunity to get some quick votes up on. malthisus started off early saying i wasnt doing much to scumhunt (p.s. this was the extent of his scumhunting at the time) and alabaska j came in first post with a vote on me which he later explained was because i made "newbie scum mistakes" such as speedlynching (wrong), trying to start a bandwagon (wrong), that i have commented on other players while keeping my vote on him (true, but so what? not like he was close to getting lynched) and finally finished by saying that i was different levels of bad depending on what alignment i was. so they have strategy but they arent doing to well with it. i'll comment on why i think these two and lemming are scum in a sec
Actually, it's truth, kthx. You're being really wishwashy, saying that malthusis and Alabaska are scummy for doing something you say isn't a scumtell.
this is a faulty assumption, scums goal is to stay out of suspicion and look townie as possible, so why would they do something intentionally stupid like voting in the middle of a bandwagon with no reasoning? again this is another one of many assumptions on mafiascum that have little to do with alignment determining factors and everything to do with playerskill or level of involvement within the game.As a general trend, the scum tend to be the people who stay beneath the radar, not the people who are the most visible and blatantly obvious. Generally it tends to be the people who jump on the middle of the wagon, with little reasoning, just saying.
This, I think, is just plain blatantly false. I think Alabaska is town, malthusis is scum, and Lemming I'm unsure about.now i think the reason both alabaska j and malthisus have been pushing me is to distract us from their third buddy, who i think is lemming.
It's pretty much what we were doing, in hindsight. Neither of us had sufficient reasoning for our votes.alabaska opened by saying lemming and pbug were "butting heads", i am immensely suspicious of anyone who dismisses an entire argument like that because it comes off as a call for everyone else to stop looking at either argument. he says it again in the next point and begins pushing me.
This is ridiculous speculation with no foundation in textual evidence. You're making a random guess.lemming has avoided commenting on me directly but has come off as critical of the bandwagon, voting malthisus for jumping on it opportunistically and then saying people have been jumping on my bandwagon scummily. while this is a reasonable position, it is one i'd expect a third scum to take if his two buddies were on a bandwagon: i'd expect the third scum to be critical of his scumbuddies and the bandwagon in general while avoiding discussion of whether i am town or scum. in this way he isnt keeping the bandwagon from happening (which he would do if he was town and thought i was too) but instead attacks the people on my bandwagon, making him look like he was defending me when i flip town when in reality he wasnt doing shit to protect me but rather trying to make himself look good.
Um, I'm not at all attacking you for those reasons. Scum is scum, a scumtell is a scumtell. My vote has nothing to do with your newbness, and defending yourself by saying you're new is basically saying "I don't know what I'm doing, disregard all of the actions I take."part of the reason i'm being attacked is becuase i'm a new player to this website that has acted differently from the more experienced players. another part of the reason i'm being attacked is because i am acting as "newbie scum" would, which ties into being new. so if i can be attacked for being new, why the fuck cant i use it as my defense?
QFT. I'm also really annoyed at two (three counting mal) of the members of the wagon for complete lack of reasoning from what I can see.thinktank wrote:"Trying to push cases with no strategy is a scum strategy". I found this kind of funny because both sides of this bandwagon seem to be atleast somewhat claiming this argument. This wagon is hilarious. OG could very well be scum, and as much as the swearing gets annoying, you have to question some of the votes on the wagon. Some are far too quick to throw away their vote based on the fact that OG was trying to be funny, albeit not well. As a general trend, the scum tend to be the people who stay beneath the radar, not the people who are the most visible and blatantly obvious. Generally it tends to be the people who jump on the middle of the wagon, with little reasoning, just saying.
P.S Newb comments don't help find scum. They just make you look like an ass.rolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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WAYYYYYYY more scummy. Mal is just a follower, and followers are not necessarily scum. OG is actively... scumming?lulu muumuu wrote:so PBuG what are your reasons for not voting mal? do you just find OG more scummy?rolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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Ugh... AGAIN, kettle, meet pot.OG Smokedank wrote:well
unvote vote malthisus
my opinion on alabaska j hasnt changed at all but malthisus (someone else i think is scummy) has more votes so that is why i'm voting himrolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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FOS: Malthusis
For:
Vote stays because:Now that you're not L-2 anymore
That's basically being opportunistic and simultaneously going against all previous actions you've made. You could have put a serious vote on anytime before you actually managed to find reason for an Alabaska vote. Now, instead, of sticking to your atttacks, you switch to the bandwagon at the drop of a hat.again i think alabaska j and malthisus are both scummy, have been saying this all game, and i put my vote on someone that has a chance of getting lynched instead of someone who doesnt. it makes sense for me to do this from both my own standpoint and from the town's because if i vote for someone that i think is scummy but who also has a chance to get lynched, i also manage to keep myself, a town player, from being lynched and therefore keep the number of town players up.rolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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lulu:
tajo:PBuG wrote:He just fell of my radar, I dunno. I kinda blew the situation out of proportion in the first place.
For now.populartajo wrote:
Fine with that?PBuG wrote:
Hell yeah, on both sides.populartajo wrote:Overeaction, maybe?rolandofthewhite (5:40:28 PM): It would be weird living with Thesp. All the hookers murdered and skin lying around. :(-
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