Mini 2065 - Access Point [Endgame]

[RadiantCowbells]

suicidal vigs claim in their first posts please

VOTE: RC

[RadiantCowbells]

it is against scum wincondition to use their nightkills on the conftown suicidal day vigs as opposed to cutting down on obvtown players to be access pointed.
there's no reason for the conftown to not claim, if only because 10 players is easier for me to sort than 12.

[RadiantCowbells]

all that town has to do to win this game is find 3 town players out of 10 and we have two additional flips to help us.
this setup is trivially easy if we do not play it poorly.

[RadiantCowbells]

1) we're using both dayvigs today

2) what if suicidal dayvig hides their role, gets wagoned, forced to claim and then quickhammered and scum autowin?

[RadiantCowbells]

my plan if i rolled scum was to get a quickhammer onto a suicidal dayvig. i'm sure that the idea has occured to whoever rolled scum. we're not taking that risk.
it's far more beneficial to have two conftown to bounce ideas off of plus the ability to sort at least one and possibly two slots with meaningful associatives with access point candidates via dayvig.

[RadiantCowbells]

is there anyone in this setup who feels and can prove over a sizable subset of games that they can soulread someone town?

[RadiantCowbells]

Interesting. Even if the first vig hits town?

if we do this properly we're aiming for town.

[RadiantCowbells]

the point of the vig role is to confirm that if someone is hard pushing for an individual to reach access point that they're not a scumbuddy.
i'm aware of that?

[RadiantCowbells]

this isn't a scumhunting setup. there's literally no reason to search for scum in this game. what the vig is is an extra flip on someone that we're not intending to access point.

? so by that logic the person pushing is not necessary scum

OK
say NSG is in this game
I am 100% sure that NSG is town.

I say that I am 100% sure that NSG is town and I want her access pointed
we dayvig me, confirm that my read on NSG is coming from town, she gets access pointed

And this suicide vig role can only be used once

this is true
otoh, what good does shooting scummy players (ie the ones more likely to hit scum)

actually

do us in this setup?

[RadiantCowbells]

if we shoot two scum and neither of them were ever being access pointed, how does that change our win condition?

[RadiantCowbells]

to win this game we need to find 3 town on day 1. send 1 town to access point d1, one dies n1, send the other town to access point d2. game over, that's it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you understand how this setup works?

[RadiantCowbells]

Even as Ic it's much stronger when activated. So giving the second vig that power to decide when to out himself is much betbettbetbettebetbettbetbetter for town

How towny he is is literally fucking irrelevant since he cannot he sent to access point. Outside of reads he is a non-entity in terms of how we win the game and we get more out of their reads knowing their alignment. We're deciding on both of the relevant access points D1 anyway

[RadiantCowbells]

and as an aside treating the second 'dayvig target' as confirmed scum and ignoring them is a strictly better play than actually shooting a second time after town has been shot.

[RadiantCowbells]

It's relevant in baiting the NK. I think out fundamental disagreement is that you think you'll nab the team to the access point day 1 while i think we should pick members a day at a time

no.

[RadiantCowbells]

day vigs claim please.

[RadiantCowbells]

the only 'more information' we have is that scum kill someone who is universally townread. we don't get an access point flip even. so, no.

[RadiantCowbells]

DDL being wrong is pretty standard for you but I'm not used to you obstinately standing in the way of the correct play. Do you think that your understanding of mafia strategy is better than mine? Do you think that my suggestion is scum motivated?

Why do this?

[RadiantCowbells]

after playing with power-town players like RC I realize that if nightless scum doesn't have some form of kill, then their win rate will be low, and their experience painful. however the good thing is there's usually only 1 or 2 people like RC in a game, so too many kills is not needed

(inb4 RC gets mad at me for treating him like an object... it's a sign of respect ok)

in fact using your own words: deciding the game before scum have had the ability to nightkill a strong player is pretty fucking gamebreaking. the dance game was lost because me/ank got nightkilled with the 1 nightkilled.
so, it seems to me like you're trying to play to what you think scum win condition is. why?

[RadiantCowbells]

we don't get lynch flips. the only new information that we get is that someone who we were already universally townreading is town.
if we're not formally mapping out our townreads d1, we're hurting the ability for the 1 person scum most wanted dead to influence the game in the future. if we are, whichever of our 3 townreads gets killed doesn't matter.

[RadiantCowbells]

this is how we're doing it. the dance game was lost because town wouldn't let me set up pairings or lynch orders and they lynched wrong. i don't trust you guys not to lynch wrong whether i get access pointed or nightkilled.
sorry if you don't like it but I am here to play to win and I'm not letting the ability to influence the game be taken out of my hands, particularly when it doesn't even infringe upon everyone's individual ability to play the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not saying RC dictates these 3 people go to town. i am saying that we as a collective hash that out. but we decide it today and we get as many confirmed town voices involved in that discussion.

[RadiantCowbells]

great start so far gjgj

[RadiantCowbells]

we're doing things my way. if I have to keep fighting you to make that happen I'm just treating your slot like scum the rest of the game and ignoring you.

[RadiantCowbells]

we're doing things my way. if I have to keep fighting you to make that happen I'm just treating your slot like scum the rest of the game and ignoring you.

take the rest of the day, since no one is posting, and decide if this is worth fighting me over.

[RadiantCowbells]

why wouldn't the vigs want to out themselves, be confirmed town, and have a much larger share of influence into who goes to access point and by the same token reduce the amount of influence scum have over who goes to access point?

there's no discussion when it's basically gamethrowing for scum to shoot the conftown there's no benefit for the conftown not to out.

[RadiantCowbells]

you misunderstand: I think that it is extremely +rand scum for DDL to be going against me with his claimed super respect for my play. i'm not advocating shutting him out for spite but because his actions don't make sense from what i know of him.

[RadiantCowbells]

it's not even about whether we agree that it's town motivated it's about the fact that i've seen him talk about me several times in and out of games like i'm the best thing since sliced bread then he's knee jerk opposing the strategy i suggested

RC - what's to stop scum from killing the people we choose to be in access point if we decide d1?

this is why we need 3 conftown

[RadiantCowbells]

the hypothetical argument could be made that it lines up scum's shot but scum are going to be able to shoot someone townread anyway
it does make some sense to keep options open going into day 3 particularly given that the final access point doesn't really matter, but.

[RadiantCowbells]

Every Day Phase, town must choose one player to send on the mission. The chosen players will be given a separate PT to chat in, but they may no longer talk in the main game thread, and they cannot be killed.

[RadiantCowbells]

if I'm strongly confident that I can get 1 scum into the 3 member town block why would I not be confident that I can get scum into the access point in general?

you're also acting like there isn't going to be clear frontrunners for the second nomination regardless of whether we rigidly structure it. what does one of them getting shot over the other mean?

[RadiantCowbells]

all that not determining it day 1 does is reduces the nightkill's and the (presumed town) access pointed players' ability to influence the future access points.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have a question to everyone who is opposing my strategy

would you also oppose establishing a lynch order at the start of one of FG's dance setups?

[RadiantCowbells]

like read this game versus this game.
we lost merchant's daughter despite all 3 scum being in my top 4 scumreads because I got nightkilled and ignored and won the witches one because we had a coherent plan that was made while the power townies were alive and we adhered to it.

DDL Vedith was the sole person i asked you guys to lynch at the end of d3 who wasn't a mason. they were the scum. you brought them to 3 way lylo and only won because he was too thick to realize 'haha you cant lynch me' was a mason tell.
having the 'info' that a universally townread person was town does not outweigh having the voice of the two most universally townread players being removed from the game.

this idea that it's scum motivated because scum can infiltrate the townblock is stupid because it's just way easier for scum to infiltrate the townblock when they can remove threats to them.

[RadiantCowbells]

if you think removing the people playing well will somehow make the town more likely to correctly identify town later you're a moron.

[RadiantCowbells]

grr

[RadiantCowbells]

so essentially you're asking me to choose between having the sole person I know for 100% is town be included in that set of 3 or having no ability to influence the game after I get nightkilled

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm confused why you see so much scum motivation in this as opposed to just, y'know, getting townread organically like I was already doing and get put in the access point that way.

[RadiantCowbells]

like if agreeing to give a readslist and get dayvigged to get my reads get taken seriously after is what it takes then okay, I guess we're doing that. but I don't think that restriction would be imposed on anyone else in this lobby.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm relieved not to have to try to read guiltylion

[RadiantCowbells]

Pls don't hipfire on ruirui or anyone else though

[RadiantCowbells]

I didn't mean to upset you or personally attack you I just meant that town only won because you failed to identify the masons. I'll leave if you want me to but I'd prefer both of us stay.

[RadiantCowbells]

Clarify this for me

You're advocating sending me on the mission last?

[RadiantCowbells]

DRVR if you think that I'm 100% town then why is it better to send me to access point on a later day phase as opposed to this one?

[RadiantCowbells]

well, hello there.

[RadiantCowbells]

that i'm no longer in a playerlist with literally 0 people that i have meta with?

[RadiantCowbells]

i just checked scumchat he didn't say that

[RadiantCowbells]

presumably because you townread me and wanted to win with me

[RadiantCowbells]

is that a no?

[RadiantCowbells]

this isn't a scumhunting setup. there's literally no reason to search for scum in this game. what the vig is is an extra flip on someone that we're not intending to access point.

? so by that logic the person pushing is not necessary scum

OK
say NSG is in this game
I am 100% sure that NSG is town.

I say that I am 100% sure that NSG is town and I want her access pointed
we dayvig me, confirm that my read on NSG is coming from town, she gets access pointed

And this suicide vig role can only be used once

this is true
otoh, what good does shooting scummy players (ie the ones more likely to hit scum)

actually

do us in this setup?

oh I forgot this post existed lol

[RadiantCowbells]

i thought that went without saying. I hoped there was a reason involving you townreading me and wanting to play a game TvT as well.

[RadiantCowbells]

(if it's not already clear I'm townreading your opener)

i certainly have no desire to play against you as scum, but i haven't really read much of this game beyond the intro posts about the vig claims and such

I'm not. I also believe that it's correct to send you to access point over me given that if scum enters I'm more likely to get mislynched than you are.

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm really glad that you replaced in for what it's worth.

[RadiantCowbells]

even if that means that I get nightkilled

[RadiantCowbells]

Everyone needs to start posting by the way

[RadiantCowbells]

that was indeed a very strange post.

[RadiantCowbells]

thank you for your words of great wisdom

[RadiantCowbells]

(that was established a long time ago)

[RadiantCowbells]

i think insomnia is town. thoughts?

[RadiantCowbells]

also think that ruirui's comment to GL is way >rand town, I don't think scum tbem would be so ballsy as to just say hey this guy should be leashed because they scumread me

[RadiantCowbells]

although i'd wait and see a bit more to if anything changes.

but I want to solve this game now

[RadiantCowbells]

rosterfoster and drvr >rand scum

without hypothetically commenting on my read one way or another on DDL at this time

[RadiantCowbells]

If this continues you know it probably means neither of you are sent to the mission today.

i'm curious how you could possibly think that this is the correct way to deal with this situation.

[RadiantCowbells]

why does my townread on someone who I'm empirically proven to be able to read effectively make someone a less optimal access point target?

[RadiantCowbells]

so from my point of view sending our top mutual townread then going to night and access pointing whoever is left over is fine
i fail to see from your perspective why you want that? what's the difference between doing that and sending one of us day 1 and forcing the kill on the other night 1.

[RadiantCowbells]

like NSG hasn't expressed a townread on me and if she did, do you trust her hypothetical townread on me that much?

[RadiantCowbells]

If this continues you know it probably means neither of you are sent to the mission today.

if what continues?

The two of you townreading each other. I'm aware it's only been expressed one way but still.

did i indicate somewhere that i townread RC?

do you not?

[RadiantCowbells]

what if you just say that you're townreading me so that I feel better

[RadiantCowbells]

you shouldn't.

[RadiantCowbells]

Not sure I trust nsg's read on you as much as I trust your read on nsg but forcing scum to flip one of you removes the doubt there.

so you're concerned that we're both scum? why are we more likely to be both scum than any other arbitrary pairing of 2 people in the playerlist

[RadiantCowbells]

hypothetically if neither of us died N1, what would you do on D2?

[RadiantCowbells]

if you're worried that I'm scum and that she's town, why does that prevent you from just entering her?

[RadiantCowbells]

he put my stuff in jello again

[RadiantCowbells]

i heard you're pretty trash tbh

[RadiantCowbells]

Man up and read you

attempting to read radiantcowbells? in a MAFIA GAME? not on MY mafiascum.com.net

[RadiantCowbells]

I feel like my scumread on DDL was bad

They might actually be my strongest non-NSG townread at this time

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm surprisingly confident on that read actually

[RadiantCowbells]

For the record that's a page 8 gamesolve

If I was anonymous this game would literally be won right now

Funny how much it sucks being me

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd give my other decent townread like 80% ish odds of being town up from 62.5% @ Rand which is not bad either

[RadiantCowbells]

I don’t think DrDo vs RC is a SvS / SvT, it’s most likely a TvT interaction, DrDo is willing to game solve, I understand where RC’s accusation comes from, he probably looks at DrDo like he’s trying to shut down the most pro-town strategy, I just believe he has a different approach tho

It's hard to explain why I townread this

I guess it's because he clearly tried to see things from multiple povs in a way that feels genuine.

Also just tonally

[RadiantCowbells]

Serious question NSG

Do you think that you'd townread me correctly if put under the pressure of 3 way access point lylo

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't necessarily think that it is.

Do you think that you can read me

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok

VOTE: nsg

[RadiantCowbells]

Lmk when you have townreads

[RadiantCowbells]

Guys I have a god NSG read rate and I am 100% sure she is scum

LYNCH HER WITH FIRE

[RadiantCowbells]

But not like right now obv

[RadiantCowbells]

also when you get the time read my games this year pls

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

It's actually a bad play to access point NSG day one

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Insomnia

This is 100% town.

Why?
Also insomnia why shoot roster tomorrow as opposed to today

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry about the post count NSG replace ins are very exciting.

I'll tone down from here.

[RadiantCowbells]

@mod make me a PT please

[RadiantCowbells]

i'd rather not say actually. i don't think my motivations will appeal much to you either.

[RadiantCowbells]

the short answer is that i don't like the idea of you getting access pointed, me getting nightkilled, and then the remaining town being left to their own devices to determine who to send.

[RadiantCowbells]

the other reasons I'd probably rather talk to you after game about. if you're worried that it's because I'm scum, it's not.

[RadiantCowbells]

RCE I feel like you've said a lot but you actually haven't said anything besides that you vaguely townread NSG. What are your reads?

[RadiantCowbells]

do you understand why I feel the way that I do without me explaining it?

[RadiantCowbells]

NSG I literally am not capable of fighting you on this. If you really want AP you're going. But I think that you owe it to me to put yourself in my shoes first.

[RadiantCowbells]

it's ok. i guess this is probably how you've felt so many times when you wanted to lead on scum and i outcharismaed you and derailed the game onto town huh.

[RadiantCowbells]

ftr the sudden support for insomnia when I brought it up as a tertiary townread sketches me the hell out.

[RadiantCowbells]

also insomnia, if you thought that the vigs could be sent why wouldn't you just recommend sending one of the vigs?

[RadiantCowbells]

@_@

[RadiantCowbells]

Well, RC’s already looking town for me, don’t mind me while I read the setup again

I don’t think DrDo vs RC is a SvS / SvT, it’s most likely a TvT interaction, DrDo is willing to game solve, I understand where RC’s accusation comes from, he probably looks at DrDo like he’s trying to shut down the most pro-town strategy, I just believe he has a different approach tho

I thought you townread me?

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not townreading RC and my death would not confirm him as town.

feel free to keep your not-townread on me to yourself, thanks.

they can change, has your read on me changed?

[RadiantCowbells]

i understand that fypov the safest play is to not depend on me being town. i'm not going to push myself in the access point pool if we're sending you in because I know you're way more likely to misvote me than anyone else that we can put in. just please stop bursting my happy generally townread bubble.

[RadiantCowbells]

I still do but I can't be sure of you, since you are RC. So that's why I'd rather wait a night and see if you get nkd.

what if I don't?

[RadiantCowbells]

are you talking to me or insomnia?

you.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm just going to not play this game because it's making me feel bad.

GL nsg.

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not replacing out.

[RadiantCowbells]

like i'm happy that you're here. don't get me wrong. but your replace in completely destroyed my ability to play this game how i would have wanted to play it.
regardless of what you say I don't think that if I somehow survived night one you would ever be okay with me being access pointed when there's easier people to read around.

this game is making me feel really bitter about a situation where i'm expecting you to win this for us anyway, so i think it's better for me to just check out.

[RadiantCowbells]

I get it. i'm not unhappy with you, just the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

i'll be

really

unhappy with you if you lose though. don't do that.

[RadiantCowbells]

if you replace out in response to that i'll replace out too btw. don't do that. just play the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

insomnia is never getting access pointed today.

[RadiantCowbells]

do you have any reads besides on me?

[RadiantCowbells]

like you literally have not said anything about anyone who isn't me. I don't want to scumread you for correctly townreading you but you have to do more than have a read on me??

what are your thoughts on NSG, DDL, insomnia, whoever?

[RadiantCowbells]

I take back my withdrawn townread on insomnia ftr.

[RadiantCowbells]

f I'm pinging scum to you, vig can just shoot me since I suck anyways and that confirms roster as town so you can send him while keeping both you and NSG alive. One of you gets nked but we still have at least 1 experienced town.

i don't think this gets successfully faked and everything else i dislike about his iso is more obnoxious than actually scum indicative.

[RadiantCowbells]

i think ruirui's town too lol

i don't think i scumread a single active player

[RadiantCowbells]

RC why do you have such a high level of confidence that you are always right? Self doubt is natural, and helpful for others to read you. I just find you a bit jarring, but I'm 90% sure it's how you play.

Also me flipping town does not confirm insomnia. I can be wrong.

Like Insomnia is town, but townread him because he's town, not because I'm town.

even this is like

town most of the time

[RadiantCowbells]

oh yeah I forgot rce existed

so it's not like an active player thing

{rc
nsg
DDL
insomnia
roster
ruirui}

6/11

should be 3 scum in the remainder

[RadiantCowbells]

I guess I'd tier that differently

{RC, nsg, DDL}
{Insomnia}
{Roster, ruirui}

{other people}

[RadiantCowbells]

oh yeah I'm posting again
not supposed to be doing that.

bye

[RadiantCowbells]

RC why do you have such a high level of confidence that you are always right? Self doubt is natural, and helpful for others to read you. I just find you a bit jarring, but I'm 90% sure it's how you play.

if I play in even a slightly different style on this account where I don't constantly project power and confidence I get mislynched lightning fast.

[RadiantCowbells]

this game has solidified my resolve to stop playing on this account tbh.

[RadiantCowbells]

I can't even lynch scum because there's no lynches

[RadiantCowbells]

You, NSG, no third player who deserves locktown yet. maybe insomnia

I really don't see any reason to use the dayvigs right now

[RadiantCowbells]

Like hypothetically yes

I don't think there's a single flip that gives me meaningful information on anyone else right now. Maybe roster -> insomnia but they read as not SvS anyway

[RadiantCowbells]

You realize I'm a person and not a machine that shits out scum for you right?

[RadiantCowbells]

Hey DDL how much fun would you have in this game from where I'm standing? I'm curious.

[RadiantCowbells]

Clarify where anyone in this game besides you thinks that im getting dayvigged today. I'll wait.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like if you don't want to play with me

Don't play with me?

[RadiantCowbells]

Why don't we dayvig you?

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok

So if NSG starts advocating for people to go to AP would you want to dayvig her?

[RadiantCowbells]

Is this easier for you?

[RadiantCowbells]

Maybe I'm overreacting.

I'm done posting, hopefully I get nightkilled and am done.

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't nominate outside of ddl nsg insomnia

[RadiantCowbells]

Putting me and NSG in is a bad idea

[RadiantCowbells]

I just feel it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you disagree on DDL at least

[RadiantCowbells]

If it helps roster is the least certain of that list

[RadiantCowbells]

Alright

Who would you prefer over DDL

[RadiantCowbells]

My intuition works weird ways where like I can mentally travel down futures and experience them very vividly and it's super helpful in mafia but I just intuitively feel like you're going to mislynch me if we're brought together and scum reaches AP so I'm kind of mad at you for mislynching me even though you haven't done it yet if that makes sense

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not sure how much sense that makes to anyone who isn't me

[RadiantCowbells]

I agree with town ruirui

I think rcenigma is the only slot that strikes me as having any not really that deepwolf equity with regards to the not wanting either of us sent D1 and a few other things

Happy for her to be sent

[RadiantCowbells]

I think you're probably wrong on roster but it's not really worth fighting over in this setup

[RadiantCowbells]

Wait what they don't?

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok

I think we do actually dayvig me D2 to lock in nsg

[RadiantCowbells]

Assuming I'm not already dead but I also don't feel like scum actually kill me this game for reasons

[RadiantCowbells]

I was counting on my townflip

[RadiantCowbells]

Why DT?

[RadiantCowbells]

But like he hadn't done anything

I actually like 367 but why did you decide he was town before he posted anything

[RadiantCowbells]

He was suggesting your being accent pointed before anything was posted

I still don't want to actually be access pointed

I will only agree to it on D3 and only if I feel like the noms were town like 99%+ of the time

[RadiantCowbells]

Unless NSG is townreading me I don't want to be access pointed

[RadiantCowbells]

Or if I'm confident both prior noms are town and I just want to guarantee a game close

[RadiantCowbells]

Nevermind I think RCE just thinks you're easily readable

[RadiantCowbells]

RcE why haven't you put yourself forward for AP

[RadiantCowbells]

jw

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: nsg

let's make sure this happens

Don't hammer it

[RadiantCowbells]

That is v helpful

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm already feeling bittersweet about your replace in as town

I wonder how much I would have resented it as scum or if I'd have even cared

[RadiantCowbells]

Again nothing personal

but I wanted to play town leader, etc etc

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll probably be moody about it again at some point during this day phase.

[RadiantCowbells]

on like the first few pages

[RadiantCowbells]

There is no discussion I am the god emperor obey my will peasants phighter is scum etc etc

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: phighteR

[RadiantCowbells]

is this more posts than your made during the entirety of merchants daughter yet

[RadiantCowbells]

until you have more posts than merchants daughter you're lockscum

[RadiantCowbells]

Wait what the fuck when in merchants daughter did you make 334 posts

[RadiantCowbells]

are you saying you didn't post because you were afraid of me?

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not afraid of you necessarily as scum

But the prospect of facing you as scum makes my stomach churn

[RadiantCowbells]

I agree that's towny of rce

[RadiantCowbells]

also townreading you fwiw

[RadiantCowbells]

so then like

either scum are in the people pushing insomnia / insomnia himself or they literally just aren't playing the game

[RadiantCowbells]

nsg doesn't have time to play a lot of games

she deserves to get this one

[RadiantCowbells]

3 confirmed town actually.

lol

[RadiantCowbells]

Nsg is basically a god of scumplay

She made me mislynch myself when I was IC with a cop guilty on her

[RadiantCowbells]

I am v good at mafia

[RadiantCowbells]

Says the guy who systematically lynched princess bride B from towniest to scummiest

[RadiantCowbells]

If I die I would slightly prefer ruirui over rce btw

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The guy who dms my curse of Strahd campaign 3 years later still brings up the time he got me mislynched when I was calling the entire scumteam

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ruirui is my gal

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Actually wait it's RCE sorry

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Ok no I'm not risking rce being scum and shooting me

If I die strongly prefer ruirui be APed

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My support for your plan is reliant on you not pushing for yourself to be in the final 3

No offense but I'd prefer if Golden Paradox directed GuiltyLion to shoot at somebody

I think what town needs to be doing right now is getting the vig opinions on NSG/Insomnia and likely pushing one of them through to access point, I think talking about other reads hurts town by giving scum a guideline on who to kill

all towny posts imo

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Do u remember when I told you the girl you mislynched in lylo was town

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Just trust me

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we Dem townblock?

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Minus you bc nsg doesn't townread you sorry

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Idk how I actually feel about RCE

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Please don't assume I'm also scum if insomnia flips scum tyia

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i have not played with virtually anyone in this game.

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tbh one of my earliest reads in this game was that scum wanted me to be sent to access point so that they could mislynch me there when a bunch of scum flipped supporting me going to AP.

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UNVOTE:

just noticed the l-1

can i get a final readslist from you nsg including scumreads

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what time frame are we talking for soon?

keeping in mind we have 5 days

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i will yell at you if you do anything

and make sure you don't get hammered by midnight edt tomorrow.

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work work nor dare to shirk
while goblins laugh and goblins quaff
far underground you go my lads!

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this game is not fun because there's no scumhunting and there's no lynching of scum i demand a refund

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Insomnia is scum by the way.

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The easiest way to find scum in this setup is to find the person who is shading every slot that's townier than them and that's exactly what insomnia is doing. A more detailed case to follow

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I don't believe that town insomnia incorrect scumreads literally all of

myself
NSG
Ruirui
DDL

Whereas as scum yeah he needs to get in access point and that means attacking townreads on ruirui and pushing for me to be vigged. The only universal townread that he hasn't discredited in some form over the last two pages is RCEnigma who also happens to be the person who said that they didn't want to be access pointed. I didn't realize this was scum reading, I thought it was just a random newbie.

Also notable that the way they deal with the NSG being access pointed thing is disgusting. I'm being pushed as scum and discredited because I'm agreeing to send the best town player on MS and someone whose scum meta is narrow enough to be unmislynchable over myself. I'm not the only one who can clear NSG on meta in this game.

Town play in this setup is to look for town. Scum play in this setup is to discredit townreads.