Unstable Mafia - Game Over

[Creature]

This is going to be fun as heck.

I hope it will.

[Creature]

I'm n0 watcher and no one visited Worm.

lmao why are you trying to defend your caught scumbuddy

Can't have him lynched too early.

What a boring exchange.

[Creature]

VOTE: Dr Worm

My money is on there's no way in hell Vedith is a n0 watcher.

You believe Overkill?

[Creature]

I think I joined the wrong game.

[Creature]

VOTE: TemporalLich

[Creature]

How did

You believe Overkill?

I'm inclined to believe it especially after Vedith's outrageous roleclaim.

become

I take it you don't necessarily believe Overkill's claim? If you don't think it's a legitimate claim, do you believe that he is scum or just trolling town?

I think Overkill is town trying to be funny.

?

[Creature]

Hmmm.. was gonna declare Creature Town, except I realized (while typing) it was

TemporalLich

doing these posts.

Did you really think I would make those posts?

[Creature]

Also there's nothing towny in their posts. 39 to 43 can be basically summed down to:

Lich: "i believe overkill's claim"
Volxen: "if you (creature) don't believe the claim, do you think it's scum or trolling town?"
Lich: "i don't believe overkill's claim"

[Creature]

Meh, this playerlist is full of gimmicks

[Creature]

Playerlist

1. Nimueh
   RCEngine

lol

[Creature]

VOTE: Dr Worm

My money is on there's no way in hell Vedith is a n0 watcher.

You believe Overkill?

I take it you don't necessarily believe Overkill's claim? If you don't think it's a legitimate claim, do you believe that he is scum or just trolling town?

I don't like this post either tbh

[Creature]

btw we arent using all 2 weeks because thats going to kill wim

I'd use the two weeks to wait the gimmicks get replaced.

[Creature]

I have Over and Almost as town for now

[Creature]

VOTE: volxen

[Creature]

I have Over and Almost as town for now

haha.. fooled ya

again

!

what the fuck are you saying

did you just scum slip or are you just completely incapable of recognizing what the fuck you are writing yourself?

[Creature]

I thought this game wasn't bastard...

[Creature]

Shit

[Creature]

I need more townreads. Someone obvtown please.

[Creature]

I had Almost and Over as my two townreads, but that sounds elitist.

[Creature]

volxen wagon looks boring now. Where should I move to?

[Creature]

@Creature - what didnt you like about it?

It looks blatant busywork.

[Creature]

Why is DT defending Lich again?

[Creature]

defending a player is different to saying another player just tunneling without doing anything should stop, creature. you know the drill

So what are we supposed to do if we shouldn't "tunnel" anyone rn?

[Creature]

Do you think DT is using the chainsaw defense on me?

Yes, I'd classify that as chainsaw defense. Not necessarily w/w though.

[Creature]

VOTE: TemporalLich

[Creature]

defending a player is different to saying another player just tunneling without doing anything should stop, creature. you know the drill

So what are we supposed to do if we shouldn't "tunnel" anyone rn?

Talk abt others

Sorta hard when no wagons are hitting 3+ votes and someone is telling to not focus on anyone.

[Creature]

VOTE: demonlord

[Creature]

[Creature]

No, I meant you were jumping on me because you're scum.

???

[Creature]

I'm finding myself agreeing with RCE + Vedith + Almost + Over + Worm + teacher + me townblock.

[Creature]

leaves:

pignash
demonlord
rosterfoster
DoubtingThomas
TemporalLich
volxen

[Creature]

leaves:

pignash
demonlord
rosterfoster
DoubtingThomas
TemporalLich
volxen

creature u are better at reading me than this

I expect the game to end before I reach on you tbh

[Creature]

Dunno why this game is now stagnant.

[Creature]

demonlord (4): Vedith, Creature, Almost50, Dr Worm, teacher

Five people, four votes

[Creature]

why is mr demon getting wagoned. shouldnt we wait for his sub

I thought that was what we were doing.

[Creature]

I'll give the sub a chance I guess.

I'll probably wagon elsewhere to not have a stagnant non-game progressive wagon on demonlord.

[Creature]

I WILL PICK THE BEST VT SO BE YOUR BEST THAKNS YOU!!

Please don't continue to be like this.

Keep reading.

[Creature]

Creature clearly didn't seem to believe Overkill's claim, and I was curious if it was because he was scumreading him, or if it was because he thought he was joking around. Of course, being that this is a bastard game, another possibility is that Overkill is a cop but not necessarily a sane cop, so there's that.

Who really thinks like that? Like there is only one remotely sensible possibility.

You mean believing Over's claim? Yeah, I'm weirded about it too.

[Creature]

VOTE: TemporalLich

[Creature]

Teach probably Scum

???

[Creature]

Teach probably Scum

???

Ignore Vedith he's a wolf

They're both part of my townlist though.

[Creature]

???

[Creature]

VOTE: rostercoster

[Creature]

If deadline is reached without a simple majority, a no lynch occurs.

RIP

[Creature]

When will pignash be prodded?

[Creature]

I'm finding myself agreeing with RCE + Vedith + Almost + Over + Worm + teacher + me townblock.

Still willing to follow this, but gotta review Almost and teacher.

[Creature]

leaves:

pignash

demonlord

Robbivale
rosterfoster
DoubtingThomas
TemporalLich
volxen

Out of these, only feel like moving Robbivale up.

[Creature]

Would rather wait volxen get replaced.

[Creature]

Hmm, the Mason claim doesn't confirm rabbi as town, it only confirms that he and pignash's are the same alignment.

Still, most likely town and not worth to worry about it rn.

[Creature]

How can you read TL's posts and not think he's scum?

Dunno, who was towncasing Lich again?

[Creature]

UNVOTE: Pignash

So why is Voxlen the wagon atm?

Duuuunno.

[Creature]

Are we gonna speedlynch?

[Creature]

Rooster probably town

???

[Creature]

Can somebody (not Lich) actually explain why they scumread me?

Let me see:

You've been underwhelming this game and also you and A50 are the most likely scum on the volxen wagon.

[Creature]

TIMELEACH are you INFROMED??

Doubt it's TMI slip, but still sounds strange.

[Creature]

Dr Warm pls

[Creature]

CREATIRE what is ""pls" can you EXPLAIN THIS PLS??

[Creature]

I JUST REALIZED when you guys say RF you mean ROOFOOSTER!! PLS use REAL NAMES to AVOID CONFRUSION!!

That's abbreviated RN though.

[Creature]

A50, have you alt hunted me?

I didn't need to. I told you already whom I thought you were, but you probably missed it.

Dammit, I wanted to know who the alts are.

[Creature]

Yeh, roster is just scum

[Creature]

I probably have the stupidest reason to townread teacher

[Creature]

It just doesn't match up what you're saying.
If you were truly masons you would be confident 100% and on a red flip then show your surprise.
Instead you are preparing for a bad flip by not fully committing

It makes 0 sense.

You're far too preoccupied with this. Play the game and read me for my content. You're also rolefishing and I won't be explaining before massclaim (neither should pignash obviously) so settle down.

I am not preparing for a pignash red flip because it is insanely unlikely to happen but I do not have literal mod confirmation that he's town and I can't see a motivation to lie about that. so?

Dunno why you keep bringing the possibility the mod is fucking with you. Scum masons are so unoriginal.

[Creature]

VOTE: teacher

Why?

[Creature]

I probably have the stupidest reason to townread teacher

???

Him breaking rules.

[Creature]

And sorry, but in what way am I flailing?

If you want an example, that question can be one.

[Creature]

If you want an example, that question can be one.

So when people call me scum should I just not try to defend myself?

You can defend yourself, but "how am I flailing?" looks like a weird defense.

[Creature]

Creature why don't you obv town anymore. if it's to make your scum game stronger, i disapprove it heavily

Thought I already obvtowned enough.

[Creature]

I think DT is Scum can we lynch there?

Nah

[Creature]

I think everyone is scum

[Creature]

I think DT is Scum can we lynch there?

Nah

can u enlighten me with your reads list

Town:
Rabbi
pignash
teacher
A50
Dr Worm
me

Scummietubbies:
roosterfoster
TemporalLich

Leftovers:
You
Overkill
Vedith

[Creature]

Is rooster + Lich + Over too crazy of a team?

[Creature]

Creature I will town read you if you surpass our post count \o/

I do it naturally. Forcing me will just lead to "oh noes creature's artificially rising his postcount"

[Creature]

0verkill RCE and Almost 50 all have 77 posts \o/

the 77 club

I'm on my way

[Creature]

I think Rooster is Scum

Why aren't you voting him then?

Dammit

[Creature]

Creature I will town read you if you surpass our post count \o/

I do it naturally. Forcing me will just lead to "oh noes creature's artificially rising his postcount"

this wasn't ur response last time i said this to you, tbh

VOTE: creature

and you expect me to search my previous games just to copypaste whatever I said last time?

[Creature]

@Creature: What's your case on Scum!TL?

Talking in third person and how you've been awkward most of the game.

[Creature]

Okay I've been potentially Dayvigged.

Should I claim now?

Pedit: Yeah sure.

???

[Creature]

I'm at 77 posts!

[Creature]

Oh, I was at 77

[Creature]

creature ???posting triggers me

???

[Creature]

Great

I think I can figure out who Rabbi is now

[Creature]

A50/Creature 99% know who I am
I'm bad at hidden alting with people who know me well anyway

will reveal if it's compromising

Actually I can't remember who had the ??? tell on me.

[Creature]

Were pignash and Overkill prodded?

[Creature]

because you're a bad D1 lynch

[Creature]

Oops, it's D2

still

[Creature]

Yeah, roster's role makes sense.

[Creature]

that leaves 0verki11, Dr Worm, and Creature as the PoEs.

I could do Over.

I'm not doing Worm though.

[Creature]

What are the claims so far?

[Creature]

lmao so I think this game is indeed bastard or something

[Creature]

or the claims are just bullshit.

[Creature]

I tried something similar, and I’m afraid I got exactly the same.

I think Vedith’s felling the truth, and teacher’s lying. Quite possibly the mafia have an ability to redirect you as the cop, and they are claiming this part.

VOTE: Teacher

I'm not gonna trust any cop claim at this point.

[Creature]

Hey roster, what should we do rn?

[Creature]

and it makes Worm look like they tried to out the PRs on D1.

???

[Creature]

To avoid any confusion from rereading my posts when I'm dead:

I have NO RESULT on DT.

I do have 2 results on

teacher and Vedith

and they're both TOWN.

Do you believe this?

[Creature]

I'm town schizophrenic. I'm told every night how many unique players typed my name or short of it during the night.

Llast night I got four.

[Creature]

Would rather finish the massclaim because I think it's pretty obvious to tell who are the fakeclaimers.

[Creature]

Also need to know whoever mentioned me last night.

[Creature]

If this greens would suggest we finish massclaim tomorrow.

We should finish the massclaim now because I think we can lock the game if we do.

[Creature]

Want me to claim?

Yes, you and DT.

[Creature]

the scum team literally is in Creature/Overkill/WORM/TL

This PoE is pretty wrong btw. I don't think scum!Worm would ever pull that fakeclaim.

[Creature]

Is Overkill ever going to claim? because if not I'm alright with Creature hammered already.

^ scum

[Creature]

Likely I'm getting hammered anyway for having the most useless role, but I say the cop claims are bullshit judging the claims so far.

[Creature]

@Creature: If you were someone else, wouldn't you hammer someone with your claim??

Likely I would because the claim is useless now, but so is Dr Worm's rn yet I still find him very towny.

[Creature]

If that's true then scum are literally me, teacher & vedith.

Don't you find three cop claims too much?

P-edit: OK, so who's scum? You wouldn't want to lynch Overkill, would you?

idk, not feeling it, but he should claim.

[Creature]

Or maybe DT??

DT should claim too

[Creature]

I'm even down with lynching the puppet to verify the puppeteer

Not today.

[Creature]

I’m fairly sure from the lack of a hammer as game has swung to pretty town places that creature is scum.

Most likely scum would rather wait a town to hammer.

[Creature]

No one is supposed to hammer anyway until DT and Over both claim and I get my say.

[Creature]

VOTE: Overkill

[Creature]

My problem with lynching Rabbi is that there are claims that need to be resolved.

[Creature]

Actually a 4-players scumteam is a plausible idea.

[Creature]

^That is another reason. (A50’s post)

What claims Creature?

Overkill (still think his idea was scum-oriented)
The cop claims there seem to have (A50, teacher, Vedith)

[Creature]

A 4 player scumteam where one of them is someone with a double slot seems most plausible to me to compensate the town doublevoter

So basically it's a 4 player scumteam that may autowin 9p LyLo?

[Creature]

A 4 player scumteam where one of them is someone with a double slot seems most plausible to me to compensate the town doublevoter

So basically it's a 4 player scumteam that may autowin 9p LyLo?

Oh nvm, I'm dumb

[Creature]

Yeah, incase the scumteam has four members most likely two of them is somewhat tied like Rabbi and pignash

[Creature]

Okay, Vedith's role makes sense too. Sorta.

[Creature]

It's probably four scum, so Rabbi + pignash must be two.

[Creature]

Over must be the third.

[Creature]

and then I don't know, still not feeling Dr Worm.

[Creature]

And my theory is you are scum and

pignash is a town slot "captured" by you

.

How would this work?

[Creature]

A50 is saying the ‘slot’ is town, but you are not (for cop reports and stuff).

So did he mean pignash is like a godfather?

[Creature]

The game is BASTARD. MOD LIES ARE A POSSIBILITY.

Basically my thoughts this game rn.

[Creature]

Even Death Godfather is still not town.

[Creature]

did you actually just hammer me?

Yes, that was the hammer

[Creature]

The fact that 0verki11 and Creature decided to make me think I lolhammered 0verki11 should be enough evidence to consider both 0verki11 and Creature scumbos.

What would be the point?

[Creature]

The fact that 0verki11 and Creature decided to make me think I lolhammered 0verki11 should be enough evidence to consider both 0verki11 and Creature scumbos.

What would be the point?

You both seemingly are trying to make the town look bad, yet somehow I think you two know things considering my vote on 0verki11 is L-2 and you said it was the hammer

Still don't understand how it even makes anyone bad specially if we find out it wasn't hammer?

[Creature]

Still don't understand how it even makes anyone bad specially if we find out it wasn't hammer?

Lolhammering is a pretty major mark against someone, to the point they're likely next day's lynch.

Lying about these things is also a major mark against someone. And the unreal coordination seems too good to be true.

Let me see if I understand:

Scum!me, in order to save Overkill, decided to lie about you hammering, expecting other players to think you've scumhammered and then instachange their votes to you just for them to find out Overkill wasn't actually hammered, but you were after the vote shift, saving Over and lynching you instead.

Am I right?

[Creature]

Damn, that would've been hillarious.

[Creature]

Two unique players mentioned my name last night.

[Creature]

Likely there are two scum left and my lynch likely will put us to MyLo.

[Creature]

I suppose Vedith's role makes his targeters also something like self-target, am I right?

[Creature]

Which tbh is more likely if he’s scum. And then tonight we said it in our PT (me+you) which would imply that only we said it. Now maybe Creature realises this might implicate him and reduces the result by 2.

Two scum have died, makes perfect sense.

[Creature]

Yeah but it might actually be his role (although what use I see for it as scum is minimal. Perhaps visits?) and didn’t think to change the results.

Yesterday I got the result of four unique mentions the night before, today I got two unique mentions.

[Creature]

Oh, I guess it doesn't include player-to-mod communications.

[Creature]

Btw, Vedith:

I suppose Vedith's role makes his targeters also something like self-target, am I right?

[Creature]

I answered I thought?
I understand the role that I do what they do. Not make them a self target.

What do you think about DT targeting you every night?

[Creature]

Two scum have died, makes perfect sense.

It doesn't because there was no mention of you in my PT N1 but we both did N2.

From my experience, scum have agitated N1s but they drop afterwards, specially after a double scum lynch.

[Creature]

See I'm not even particularly doubting that you got 4 pings N1. I just think that's way more likely to happen if you're scum.

Why would I say my own name in the scumchat instead of using first person?

[Creature]

Quoting someone who said your name?

Not sure if that applies.

[Creature]

Well, my role specifies unique players that typed my name in any game related private communication.

[Creature]

I think it's literally (maybe ctrl+c ctrl+v being the exception).

[Creature]

So you think quoting would count?

I wouldn't count, but I can ask the mod.

[Creature]

Well, I'm not self-hammering.

[Creature]

Yeh it's DT + Over

[Creature]

because what the role does, doesn't really fit it's name.

I remember seeing plenty other roles that don't fit the name either.

[Creature]

This game is Stalin again

[Creature]

because creature knows i spew my partners really hard. i have like no interaction with over at all. for him to think i am scum with over over people like roster is just a scum claim

Didn't you directly CC Overkill?

[Creature]

was thinking how likely would scum!you CC your scumbuddy enough to make him change his claim, but you're saying it's very likely apparently.

[Creature]

2 mentions

[Creature]

Did you communicate with Almost50?

[Creature]

Just noting that this is MyLo

[Creature]

DT's claim is sketchy as fuck

[Creature]

I sorta have an idea of who might be DT's partner, but would rather not tell rn.

[Creature]

I mean, with the roles I'm seeing, I find a simple doctor improbable and also it seems like you were pulling stuff up to not be questioned after A50 and teacher were killed.

[Creature]

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

[Creature]

if I target anyone the second time (doesn't have to be consecutive)

that's why I said I can't heal consecutively.

lol

[Creature]

But there was no hammer and me being paired with stefan is ridiculous so we have confscum

[Creature]

tbh it was pretty obvious it couldn't be StefanB anyway.

VOTE: rosterfoster

[Creature]

Fwiw I think creature could see our PT.

???

[Creature]

How many times did you have your name mentioned, Creature?

Twice.

[Creature]

So basically I'm schizophrenic enough to suddenly invade PTs?

[Creature]

Creature's is completely useless

Well I can see the benefits for town, but I think my role is weakened so it balances out with scum having one-way lovers.

[Creature]

I thought the cop pair were the more powerful roles town would have and the rest were more or less (like RCEnigma). Hence why I doubted DT.

[Creature]

I got four mentions N1. Three were likely from scum (including pignash I think), dunno about the other one.

[Creature]

Pretty sure I would doublecheck or even triplecheck as scum.

[Creature]

gotta admit rosterfoster has a great creativity.

[Creature]

though, why tf would my role be named Schizophrenic then?

[Creature]

thought my role specified players.

[Creature]

I wonder if him or you missed a mention, like "him".

[Creature]

gonna see if my role includes stuff like "him"

[Creature]

Okay so Creature never really address DemonLord other than a blank vote with no threat.

I think he had replaced out after I voted him and barely did anything before it.

Also never really address Pignash.

It was V/LA most of the day.

[Creature]

I suppose Vedith's role makes his targeters also something like self-target, am I right?

This seems like concern on if attacking me.

No, it happened when there seemed to have like 3 cop claims and I found that unrealistic and was trying to find out what actually happened.

[Creature]

And my theory is you are scum and

pignash is a town slot "captured" by you

.

How would this work?

Soft defend.

The idea was pretty crazy tbh.

[Creature]

My problem with lynching Rabbi is that there are claims that need to be resolved.

Another soft defend

Overkill and DT were counterclaiming each other at the time.

[Creature]

I'm even down with lynching the puppet to verify the puppeteer

Not today.

This one too.

because it's usually the correct course when there are "mason" claims. Also my role seemed to point them masons or something (guess before Rabbi claimed it was a puppet).

[Creature]

And Scum creature doesn't bus if I'm correct there?

Mini 2030 says the opposite.

[Creature]

Yeah, "him" doesn't count.

[Creature]

Damn roster is good at pulling bullshit

[Creature]

Fails on saying N1 is an exception because that's pretty stupid.

[Creature]

Roster also being anonymous allows free rolefishing.

[Creature]

unvoted after he replaced

Self-explanatory

[Creature]

Wouldn't atleast one scum have a very towny-looking role?

[Creature]

Still there were two different PTs going on so couldn't choose both N2.

[Creature]

I'm tired

VOTE: Creature

[Creature]

TIL it's really worthless to put effort as scum

[Creature]

May as well change the game name to Unbalanced Mafia

[Creature]

Whatever, you can release the mafia chat. It's mostly complaining about the setup anyway.

[Creature]

Woah wtf

Why didn't Lich point that RCEnigma mentioned N1?

[Creature]

4 mentions would then make sense

[Creature]

This setup could be more playable if there was a public anticlaim mechanism (such an anticlaim vig).

[Creature]

Really wished more role madness games would have anticlaim mechanisms.

[Creature]

One of the scrapped roles was Town Gossip, which would be able to continue posting in the main thread during the night phase. This didn't work for logistical reasons, so it was scrapped.

Could work if all other players refrained from posting in thread.