Mushroom Kingdom Mafia (Game over!)

[Alabaska J]

sorry, /confirm

[Alabaska J]

vote: gimbo

b/c that avatar makes me wanna become The Threadjacker again…:shock:

[Alabaska J]

Vote: Alabaska J

for disliking my awesome avatar

It's an injoke lol. I actually like it too much.

[Alabaska J]

Actually I haven't seen Rosso for quite a bit; this a welcome respite from the lack of Rosso I have experienced.

[Alabaska J]

baby jesus sounds like the best player in the history of the world.

Also Dead Rikimaru is here? SWEET

[Alabaska J]

Argh. Wished you had thought that out before you claimed. Oh well, water under the bridge.

unvote, vote: Cream147

. If I hadn't been unavailable I would've voted before Phoebus.

So, lemme get this straight. We are lynching Cream and doing what about Gimbo?

[Alabaska J]

Why the hell did Gimbo vote Surye? The only scummy thing he has done so far occurred after his post. Do you have some sort of post restriction which forces you to vote for a random person every post?

[Alabaska J]

yes, Surye, after Cream147, you are next up unfortunately, you've known too much and must die

Even though:

That fact you would bring it up (if you were scum, you certainly wouldn't have)

Also,

FoS: MafiaSSK

for his apparent inability to read the thread.

[Alabaska J]

Can someone please tell me why people are voting TSPN in favor of Cream147? His opportunism earlier in the game was not only scummy, but when it was called out, he didn't bother to defend himself. TSPN has just posed a way to possibly eliminate scum. Not the best plan, but just because his plan has holes in it DOESN'T MEAN HE IS SCUM IMO. Why would scum bring up a plan that has the potential to destroy them? Assuming all anti-town groups lie about their coin count, the town should still have enough coins to blast away some scum in the endgame if they chose to do this plan later.

[Alabaska J]

Like many here I don't see the case on cream. I bandwagoned purely to see reactions.

Unvote

Then why did you unvote TSPN? What does his wagon have to do with Cream?

FoS: RogueShenanigans

.

[Alabaska J]

Like many here I don't see the case on cream. I bandwagoned purely to see reactions.

Unvote

Then why did you unvote TSPN? What does his wagon have to do with Cream?

FoS: RogueShenanigans

.

Once I stated my reasons for the bandwagon... there was no reason to stay on it.

What the fuck…

[Alabaska J]

Can we please kill Cream today and then Rogue tomorrow? It would be really great to be able to kill two scums in a row. Then we wouldn't even need Gimbo's 'shroom.

[Alabaska J]

Vote count please?

[Alabaska J]

Two minutes and no post?

mod prod Gimbo

[Alabaska J]

Your avatar is Doctor Who, yes?

Or is it that one sci-fi miniseries about the different objects with special powers (actually that series would make a good mafia game, hmm)

[Alabaska J]

I'm still totally an utterly shocked Cream is still alive and we aren't in night.

[Alabaska J]

Why would we be lynching cream? It seems like the rationale was "if cream is town, we can revive him." That's no reason to stop hunting scum.

IMO big if there, buddy.

[Alabaska J]

I'm still totally an utterly shocked Cream is still alive and we aren't in night.

I am totally and utterly shocked that you are totally and utterly shocked about this. Seriously, no one has made a half-decent case against me yet. Apparently I attacked someone for being the easy wagon. I actually voted them because of reasons stated in somestrangeflea's post but didn't wish to go to the trouble of saying them all again.

Yes there have been; your continued ignoring of them just makes you seem even scummier.

[Alabaska J]

No Cream read the thread for once.


I thought we had a plan for today, but it seems to have dissolved.

Also, I feel bad for whoever will replace into this game (if we need one).

prod Gimbo

[Alabaska J]

No he can't. :/

[Alabaska J]

Notice the word 'pretty'.

Do you understand what it means? Pretty = quite = very.

[Alabaska J]

Yeah. That wasn't so bad. Here is my problem. In a game like this lurkin-Alabaska J - Post 247 votes cream, but says "if I hadn't been unavailable I would've voted phoebus"

WOAH nice catch. That should be "voted

before

phoebus.

Mod edit:
Visible votecount:
Cream147 (3): armlx, Phoebus, Alabaska J
TheSweatpantsNinja (3): sideney, Riceballtail, iamausername
Xtoxm (2): DragonsofSummer, alvinz95
Alabaska J (2): populartajo, farside22
farside22 (1): Gimbo
somestrangeflea (1): Dead Rikimaru
armlx (1): killa seven
Gimbo (1): somestrangeflea
MafiaSSK (1): TheSweatpantsNinja

Not voting (9): Xtoxm, Surye, MafiaSSK, Pepsidude, Cream147, FaerieLord, Celebloki, mr. incrediball, Rogue Shenanigans

With 24 alive it takes 13 real votes to lynch.

[Alabaska J]

Also farside could be a partner of Cream. I mean to you guys not on the Cream wagon not really see the case on him?

prod Gimbo

[Alabaska J]

-Alabaska J - Post 247 votes cream, but says "if I hadn't been unavailable I would've voted phoebus" Post: 345 why FOS Mafia when so many others don't seem to be reading the thread. Post 418 setting up lynches in advance. Post 474 when pushed about what case he says that the person needs to read the thread.

247: Typo.
345: The only other person not reading I am voting. Therefore, you point is wrong. Nice try, though.
418: Just pointing out my top two suspects, then saying they would be nice back-to-back lynches. I know that post looks bad, but is it really so wrong to think my top two suspects are scummy?
474: Well seeing as me, armlx, and phoebus (and probably more) have all posted it multiple times…

Alabaska seems really excited about night and is pushing to lynch Cream for some odd reason that he never wants to back up.
Honestly I'm at a toss up at who is the worse on this. I'm going with Alabaska because of his eagerness to see the day done with a quick lynch.

unvote:
vote: Alabaska

I really don't see why everyone is so reluctant about Cream. He has consistently acted scummy

and

we have a 1-up in case some sort of miracle occurs and he misread his pm or something.


Also, when did tajo vote me? Can't find it…

[Alabaska J]

Holy crap, I was his random vote! Lol.

[Alabaska J]

EBWOP:

unvote, vote: no lynch

I don't get it.

This isn't epicmafia, alvinz.

[Alabaska J]

[

FOS Alabaska

, might become a vote.

Reasons? Or did you mean TSPN?

Mod edit:
Visible votecount:
Cream147 (3): armlx, Phoebus, Alabaska J
TheSweatpantsNinja (3): sideney, Riceballtail, iamausername
Alabaska J (2): populartajo, farside22
skitzer (1): DragonsofSummer
farside22 (1): TheSweatpantsNinja
somestrangeflea (1): Dead Rikimaru
armlx (1): killa seven
Gimbo (1): somestrangeflea
Rogue Shenanigans (1): skitzer

No lynch (1): malthusis

Not voting (9): Surye, andersonw, Pepsidude, Cream147, FaerieLord, Celebloki, mr. incrediball, Rogue Shenanigans, Gimbo

With 24 alive it takes 13 real votes to lynch.

[Alabaska J]

Can we get some kind of consensus here? I see a lot of random votes still clogging up the votecount. Let me see if I can get this straight. Actual cases have been made (and followed up by votes by multiple people) against (in alphabetical order):

Alabaska J
Cream147

Gimbo

farside22
RogueShenanigans
TheSweatPantsNinja


We are obviously not lynching Gimbo today, which is why he is crossed out. These seem to be, at the moment, the people various members of the town feel to be scum for actual posted reasons (whether the reasons suck or are wrong is irrelevant). Any additions or does this seem to be the list of the likeliest to get lynched today so far?

Also,

mod prod: FaerieLord, killa seven, Dead Rikimaru, sideney, populartajo, Pepsidude, andersonw, and Gimbo

.

[Alabaska J]

EBWOP: scratch FL from the list; he's active.

[Alabaska J]

His attacking Gimbo early when it was evident Gimbo was not being scummy within his standard behavior was the start, then him completely dismissing/ignoring said accusation, then responding with the "I'm always scummy" defense, which I know is not true, and trying to dissuade a lynch with a soft claim of power role under the logic that even if he is revived he will be NK'ed ASAP again.

Also, now he is in denial that this case even exists.

[Alabaska J]

then him completely dismissing/ignoring said accusation

I covered that.

Ah, but his recent actions are more severe and, I feel, deserve separate mention.

[Alabaska J]

SO why not you?

Take one for the town. GO on then...

I'd rather lynch scum today than 'take one for the town'.

Towards which end...you seem to be doing very little of substance...

I could (and am) saying the same thing about you.

Are you saying Phoebus is scum (just to clarify)?

[Alabaska J]

SO why not you?

Take one for the town. GO on then...

I'd rather lynch scum today than 'take one for the town'.

Towards which end...you seem to be doing very little of substance...

I could (and am) saying the same thing about you.

Are you saying Phoebus is scum (just to clarify)?

No, I'm saying that Phoebus is doing very little of substance.

Well, seeing as he has a pretty good case already established…

[Alabaska J]

killa I think you need to unvote.

[Alabaska J]

TSN has been pushing for a Cream wagon for quite a while

O_o

[Alabaska J]

happy birthday armlx!

let's give him a birthday present: a lynched scum!

[Alabaska J]

Riceball, don't vote nolynch. Worst idea ever. Gimbo is actually 100% right for once. This isn't epicmafia.


Also, with Rogue's recent continuance of scummy behaviors started earlier, I am happy to lynch him today also, if his lynch will come about faster than Cream's. I'm thinking two scum already and we are set!

[Alabaska J]

No Lynch = very bad in 95% of scenarios.

If it is day one, then this percentage increases by 5%.

[Alabaska J]

237: MAJOR FOS: iamausername Do you not know why peach being kidnapped would suck? Can't believe no one pointed this out.

I've read the post, and I don't quite get what on earth you're talking about. The post says how a massclaim would suck for the town because it would expose Princess Peach. That's how I read it anyway. Reread it, seriously, I think you need to.

I have the same read of that post as Cream147, goborage; not sure where you got that…

Mod edit:
Visible votecount:
Cream147 (7): armlx, Phoebus, Alabaska J, Gimbo, TheSweatpantsNinja, killa seven, sideney
FaerieLord (5): Surye, somestrangeflea, Rogue Shenanigans, mr. incrediball, iamausername
Rogue Shenanigans (2): skitzer, farside22
Alabaska J (1): populartajo
somestrangeflea (1): goborage

No lynch (1): malthusis

Not voting (7): andersonw, Pepsidude, Cream147, FaerieLord, Celebloki, DragonsofSummer, Riceballtail

With 24 alive it takes 13 real votes to lynch. Deadline: June 25th. At deadline, it takes 7 real votes to lynch.

[Alabaska J]

I am okay with a Riceballtail lynch, in addition to being okay with a RogueShenanigans and definitely a Cream147 lynch.

Also, the Phoebus case is based off of him rolefishing? I'll admit, there was some rolefishing present, but goborage and ashmite84 rolefished also, and just as much, if not more so. Seems to be a double standard here.

FoS: all rolefishers and everyone on the Phoebus wagon who didn't point out the other rolefishers (so everyone on the Phoebus wagon)

. I almost feel like there is a very high chance that either ashmite84 or goborage is scum with one or more people on the Phoebus wagon, which almost feels like it was started to direct attention away from their rolefishing.

[Alabaska J]

Sounds like a lie:

For those who aren't aware, I was reaction fishing with my NL vote.

because:

I'm thinking you just wanted to sound cool after making such a lame post

But I can buy RBT making a fail trap.

I wouldn't so much call that a lie for the purposes of LAL. LAL lies are proven true.

[Alabaska J]

All the people wagonning me are clueless goons.

Especially the one (whoever it is -- i can't even bother to find out at this time -) who wants to policy lynch me just because they find me and my words annoying -- get help/training/whatever...

If your play is going to be based on how you react to people's words...you've got another thing coming....might as well give up playing now.

Policy lynching is usually a stupid thing. Doing it just because you don't like what you're hearing about yourself...especially more so...!


Given all the raving about me these last few pages, only one person seems to have caught on to what I'm saying (though they don't seem to approve) but I'm fine by that.
The rest of you are a bunch of clueless lunatics with torches, out on a witch hunt!


For what it's worth, I'll echo Gimbo's polite post to Cream and

unvote: Cream ; vote: killa seven

This post makes me face palm in so many ways.

I think armlx is the government in my brain posting my thoughts before I can.

[Alabaska J]

cream's wagon is dead.

unvote, vote: RogueShenanigans

[Alabaska J]

cream's wagon is dead. Sad Sad

Is this even a valid reason to unvote?

Not that I disagree with your choice of secondary vote at all, but do you believe Rogue is a better lynch then Cream?

I believe they are equally good lynches at the moment because of Rogue's recent Shenanigans (sorry couldn't help it).

[Alabaska J]

Ok, so other things on Cream:

Lynch baiting
Defending himself on incorrect semantics.

If the Cream wagon takes up again I'll get back on it (I STRONGLY believe Cream to be scum), but I think Rogue is just as likely to be scum and his wagon really seems to have more strength.

[Alabaska J]

Rogue only has six votes and we need

thirteen

to lynch. Throw your votes in now.

[Alabaska J]

Rogue only has six votes and we need

thirteen

to lynch. Throw your votes in now.

It's only thirteen to lynch

before

the deadline hits. The limit falls to seven

at

deadline.

Ahh, good catch sir.

[Alabaska J]

people on the Pheebz wagon are either retarded townies or scum, I seriousl don't see the case against him.

Lynch Preference:

Riceballtail > Rogue >>>>>> Pheebz

Woah shit Gimbo you have been teh right in your last three posts!!!!! (I'm not as convinced Riceballtail is for sure scum yet and I don't think he's a better lynch than Cream or Rogue but he's still pretty scummy for his whole nolynch thing.)

I sense improvement.

[Alabaska J]

thanks for the sig farside, now i'll be (in)famous!!!!!!!!

lol as if you aren't already

[Alabaska J]

Rogue claim plzkthxbai

[Alabaska J]

UNVOTE; VOTE: RS

Curious to see if my vote matters or not in the end, but I'll appease Alabaska's request.

From Nolynch to hammer. Nice.

[Alabaska J]

I see DK as a third party character, to tell the truth. By third party I mean Survivor or SK or cult-leader. He's not really clear-cut for mario or for bowser. I'm fine with his lynch, seeing as I think our coins could be used for better things than giving them to possibly anti-town roles.

[Alabaska J]

RBT, your claim was entirely unnecessary. There was no guarantee you were going to get lynched today. Fail for the town.

unvote, vote: Cream147

Seriously people, get the fuck off the Phoebus wagon. I've already said why it is stupid.

Mod edit:
Visible votecount:
Cream147 (5): sideney, Riceballtail, armlx, farside22, Alabaska J
Rogue Shenanigans (4): goborage, iamausername, somestrangeflea, mr. incrediball
Riceballtail (3): skitzer, Gimbo, TheSweatpantsNinja
Phoebus (3): ashmite84, killa seven, Rogue Shenanigans
FaerieLord (1): Surye
Alabaska J (1): populartajo
killa seven (1): Phoebus

No lynch (1): malthusis

Not voting (5): andersonw, Cream147, FaerieLord, Celebloki, DragonsofSummer

With 24 alive it takes 13 real votes to lynch. Deadline: June 25th. At deadline, it takes 7 real votes to lynch.

[Alabaska J]

unvote, vote: RogueShenanigans

Looking back, I'm still not comfortable with his claim enough to let him live.

[Alabaska J]

Even though I wasn't part of the cream votes. Both RBT and Rogue have interesting claims. Since Cream didn't and I don't want to see a no lynch occur.

unvote:
vote: Cream

Good point. Nolynch is horrible, and Rogue's wagon has uber-died looking back, so my vote has no point.

unvote, vote: Cream147

.

[Alabaska J]

Ohh the suspense…

[Alabaska J]

lolz @ssf: Yeah I take pride in the fact that I hit option+semicolon on my mac instead of hitting the period button three times.

lolz @goborage: Done that a gazillion times along with a few other people in the thread. Opportunistically voted Gimbo, then attempted to refute that case by saying "I always look scummy" and dodged further questions about his play, then continued to ignore the people voting him and denied the existence of evidence for his wagon.

[Alabaska J]

How the heck do you think Yoshi is anti-town? You could be delicious tonight SSF.

Yoshi (Pro-town rolename) -> Vote nullifier (Could be pro- or anti- town)

Yoshi nameclaim could easily be a substitute for, for example, Piranha Plant.

Remember, I'm not saying it's likely, but I'm making sure that everyone knows it's a possibility.

I don't think this would be a bad gambit at all. Or too complex. Seems like scum could take advantage of our preconceptions of mario names to craft a claim that is provable yet missleading.

This also paired with the fact he claimed without being asked and was not really in danger until he self-voted…looks like he thought up a gambit and really wanted to try it out.

unvote, vote: Riceballtail

[Alabaska J]

prod malthusis

He's still voting nolynch rofl.

[Alabaska J]

Ok well I remember the Gimbo vote and frankly I would have done the same thing. I'm not entirely sure what the rest of your vote refers to. Can anyone refer me to a specific post? 30 page thread FTL.

Read Cream's posts my posts, armlx's posts, Phoebus' posts. There's a button at the bottom that lets you view all posts by a specific person. It should be easier to find stuff there.

[Alabaska J]

Hmm armlx I'm surprised you are buying RBT's claim. I personally don't like either claim.

[Alabaska J]

hey why haven't we reached a consensus yet?

[Alabaska J]

unvote, vote: RogueShenanigans

[Alabaska J]

I'm back! Questions: Why has Gimbo not revealed the ability yet? If pop had items will he get them back? Why is armlx voting ssf when there are much better options (

vote: Cream147

for example)? Can we have confirmation that pop is actually alive? Seeing as I believe feathers are one-shot cop investigations available to everyone, did anyone investigate anyone and can they give us the results?

[Alabaska J]

Can we have confirmation that pop is actually alive?

Mod hasn't checked in since the start of the day, so the revivification hasn't gone through yet.

Ah. Well, hope this comes soon.

[Alabaska J]

armlx, plz stop failing all over the place, k? Gimbo is NOT confirmed town. However, this doesn't make him scum. Understand? You aren't confirmed town either. THIS MUST MEAN I THINK YOU ARE SCUM LOLZ. Either/or fallacy to the max. Also, I

do

understand what you are trying to say, so don't turn this around as me misrepresenting you. You are trying to say, I believe, that if one is to doubt Gimbo's status as confirmed town, they must think he is scum on some level. This is wrong though, as all I believe ssf is trying to say is that Gimbo is not necessarily confirmed given the information we have about him.

Anyway, can we please lynch Cream?

PLEASE???

At least RBT has shown he can post intelligently. If someone can point out a better target at this point, I'll give them eighty coins. Hint: ssf, Phoebus, and Gimbo are NOT better targets.

[Alabaska J]

This is wrong though, as all I believe ssf is trying to say is that Gimbo is not necessarily confirmed given the information we have about him.

I see it more as SSF trying to leave Gimbo open for accusation. There is straight up no way in my mind if the game is balanced for him to be scum.

We don't know all the items and the number of scum players!

[Alabaska J]

We don't know all the items and the number of scum players!

Actually irrel unless the mod just wanted to make the game more random and cut the scum numbers to fit in Gimbo's role as scum.

Or add more town power roles in the form of one-shots. We have a lot of potential one-shots. I think we have just seen the tip of the iceberg, really.

[Alabaska J]

Or add more town power roles in the form of one-shots. We have a lot of potential one-shots. I think we have just seen the tip of the iceberg, really.

I don't think you fully comprehend just how powerful a scum double voter is.

I can't believe you think we wouldn't have one. Real vs. visible votecount? I'm sure there are roles already with more than one vote, and I think that scum double voter could balance out town double voters.

[Alabaska J]

Counting Lawrencelot's transaction posts I have 5 coins.
Ill tell you two things after I receive the coins enough for a star.

I'm not giving anything until he says what he has to say and I would advise others to do the same. This seems really fishy to me.

[Alabaska J]

I don't think he isn't town, but if there is some sort of catch or something that he knows about or some mechanic, he needs to tell us lest we overcommit. If he just has questions about who to investigate/kill or opinions on players, he should say them now. There is no reason for him not to be forthright with us.

[Alabaska J]

1)I want to know why Alabaska is so worried to give me coins

You say stuff like this:

The second thing Ill tell you later.

[Alabaska J]

Alabaska's distrust of a confirmed townie is odd. Add him to the list.

The only thing I'm afraid of is that there is some hitch to pop's role or maybe the mushroom that we are not aware of. Seeing as he is confirmed town (I in no way think he is scum), I am quite befuddled as to what he can't say right now. I want to know that my coin will not go to waste because of some weird restriction or something. However, once pop says the second thing on his mind that he for some reason believes he cannot say, I will give him a coin if it is still needed.

[Alabaska J]

Dammit, I don't feel like doing a PBPA on farside at all. I just can't concentrate enough. And I'm scared by the sheer volume of this game. Ah well. It looks like we need to analyze Day 1 though, since today everyone seems to be thinking in night actions only.

I was sensing a connection between farside and rogue, to be frank, but I can't put my finger on it yet. I'll do some research, when I can make myself sit down and do the hard part. Ah well.

May I suggest reading the posts in isolation? Cuts out a lot of the Gimbo.

[Alabaska J]

Holy crap 8 hours w/o a post in day!

NEW RECORD!!!!!!!

[/u]

[Alabaska J]

if we get him a star he could hold everyone's extra coins over night and re distribute them the next day to keep scum from gaining coins from kills. only drawback is if there is some sort of scum coin stealing night ability. . .

I don't like this. Its practically a mass claim on coins, which I think will help the mafia more then us by far.

Alabaska's distrust of a confirmed townie is odd. Add him to the list.

I have a bad feeling about this post.
Armlx, why do you think a massclaim on coins is bad?

Mafia can take out people with a lot of coins, thus putting the down at a disadvantage. Conversely, they can

not

hit people who don't have lots of coins, thus aiding them by not wasting nightkills on unimportant members of the town.

[Alabaska J]

So no one is going to investigate anyone tonight or protect themselves from a nightkill or kill someone other than pop? Um…don't like this very much, especially with there being something pop hasn't told us.

[Alabaska J]

Am I the only one afraid some of our biggest power roles are going to be outed/made invalid by the coin pooling?

[Alabaska J]

Armlx and Alabaska
1. How many coins do you think scum could have?
2. Why do you think power roles more likely to have less coins?

1. Depends on how many scums there are. I'm guessing they are structured power-wise on a similar level as the town: (based on what we've seen so far) some have items and some have coins.

2. I don't, necessarily.

[Alabaska J]

oh yea, Riceballtail? you and what army? your 0-vote? muhahahahahahahha

0-vote? What does that mean?

[Alabaska J]

Who are we lynching today?

[Alabaska J]

^ that's a very scummy statement

FoS:Alabaska

lol I can do that after all of your posts.

Actually, let me clarify that for the Gimbos (Gimboes??) of the world. We've been hung-up on the whole coin-claiming thing for sometime now, and with that being put on hold while Flameaxe tries to sort out the mess without having his mod privileges, I figured we could do something productive, instead of just sitting around twiddling our thumbs. Like discussing what we are doing day lynch-wise.

The biggest wagons yesterday that were not resolved were:

-Cream147
-Riceballtail
-Phoebus (for reference: he is V/LA)
-killa seven (not many votes on him but many people discussed him being scummy)
-TSPN (seeing as we are now doing essentially what he was called out for yesterday right now, I can't see this one going anywhere)
-farside22 (same as killa seven, except change the him to a her)

I believe someone had a problem with RBT's claim, and someone said they were working on a case against farside22. Anything else anyone wants to add, go ahead. DISCUSSION FTW!

[Alabaska J]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mario-Peach and Luigi-Daisy were lovers. Or if Mario-Luigi were lovers (the role, not literally).

[Alabaska J]

I believe very much so that the DK Crew is a scumgroup.

[Alabaska J]

I've just re-read RS' D1. On more than one occasion he defended Cream saying he didn't see the case against Cream / there were better lynches than Cream. Unless the two are in cahoots, I would have thought that the Cream wagon would have been a cushy place for RS to park his vote and get lost among the crowd.

This led me to re-read Cream's D1. After no interaction with RS, Cream applied some light distancing just when it was becoming apparent that RS was going down anyway.

Cream's D1 is an interesting read and littered with other scummines that has nothing to do with RS aswell.

I think Cream is in the DK crew.

Vote: Cream147

yay even more evidence that points toward the right lynch.

I say we get Cream147 to L-1 (without Gimbo voting him) and have RBT try to hammer. Also, about the double voter situation, well ,seeing as I have never really played with them before I may be wrong, but wouldn't it be to the town's benefit to know about the double voters?

[Alabaska J]

That's L-2. Claiming would be in your best interest. Before I hammer.

???????????????????????????????????????

[Alabaska J]

No killa I was just confused because he said he would hammer at L-2. Also I was very tired when I posted that.

Also,

unvote, vote: Riceballtail

.

[Alabaska J]

^ Alabaska, you don't make any sense.....

I sense some irony here, but I'm not sure why…

[Alabaska J]

Alabaska,

1) you gave no reasoning for your vote

Um, I never liked RBT's claim anyway, hello were you there day one. He's the best alternative lynch to Cream. BTW, Cream, you aren't off the hook yet, but I'm willing to let you live for now while we still have RBT here. Actually, I just thought of something. See below

2) you are obviously not paying attention to this game since you didn't get the L-2 joke.

Wrong. I was tired and it was phrased weird. Me not getting a weird joke ≠ me not paying attention to the game.

unvote, vote: Cream147

Cream, give your mushroom to Gremwell. Everyone put your votes back on him. Seeing as he is essentially vanilla, we can get him to L-1 and do the RBT vote trick and if it doesn't work, we haven't lost much (either a vanilla or a scum who bought a mushroom and fakeclaimed vanilla). Everyone cool with this?

[Alabaska J]

unvote, vote: Cream147

I don't know what happened up there.

Also, why are we voting iamusername? Did no one seriously consider that Cream147 is scum who bought a mushroom last night so he could do this fakeclaim today?

[Alabaska J]

Also, wow it upped the font in my sig lol.

Also,

FoS: Farside

. That post is very anti-town. Reasons? Why is my idea not good?

[Alabaska J]

See not everyone get's it Cream so my shush still stands.
Anyone else want to question my sanity it would really help.

farside, you are seriously making no sense. If he gives away his shroom, then he IS vanilla (or scum), and Gremwell needs it more anyway, and I don't understand why we can't test RBT's role still. Also, even with there claims, Cream147 and RBT can still very easily be scum.

[Alabaska J]

See not everyone get's it Cream so my shush still stands.
Anyone else want to question my sanity it would really help.

farside, you are seriously making no sense. If he gives away his shroom, then he IS vanilla (or scum), and Gremwell needs it more anyway, and I don't understand why we can't test RBT's role still. Also, even with there claims, Cream147 and RBT can still very easily be scum.

I'm making sense to some people. But don't you worry I will be with you after iamsurename get's more pressure on him.
I do suggest to Cream if he hasn't done so to give his coin away to populajoto

He has given his coin away already. Can someone please tell me what the fuck farside is rambling about? If so many other people get it, it shouldn't be to hard.

[Alabaska J]

Okay here goes,

[rant]
Farside: I have no idea wtf you are talking about, everyone is agreeing so I will too, if iamausername flips town, I'll personally go after you tomorrow.
[/rant]

What makes you think iamusername is going to be lynched today?

Also, farside, take this as proof that no one else understands what you are saying and that you and everyone else should switch back to Cream.

In other news,

I CAN SEE ABSOLUTELY NO CASE ON IAMUSERNAME RIGHT NOW THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO JUSTIFYING A LYNCH

.

[Alabaska J]

Aren't we beyond lining up lynches at this point?

But don't you worry I will be with you after iamsurename get's more pressure on him.

/badposting

[Alabaska J]

Ok, hello all. I'm afraid that my claim isn't going to help you (or me) in the slightest. I'm a regular Toad of the Mushroom Kingdom. I came with 1 coin and 1 mushroom. This claim obviously isn't going to save me from lynching, so I think I should give up my stuff so it doesn't just disappear (is that what happens when someone is lynched with items?).

Anyway, I've given my coin away to popular, but I still have my mushroom. Should I give it to Gimbo? Or someone else? Once I've done that, you may proceed with lynching me.

What in this post says to you "Cream is definitely not a scum who bought a mushroom last night and started the game with four coins"? He has not tried to defend himself all game and continues this trend in this post. Seems like a hopeless scum claiming vanilla and guessing he's not gonna get away with it. Boy will he get a surprise when he comes back.

Also, you are hardcore rolefishing in your last post.

[Alabaska J]

Ok, hello all. I'm afraid that my claim isn't going to help you (or me) in the slightest. I'm a regular Toad of the Mushroom Kingdom. I came with 1 coin and 1 mushroom. This claim obviously isn't going to save me from lynching, so I think I should give up my stuff so it doesn't just disappear (is that what happens when someone is lynched with items?).

Anyway, I've given my coin away to popular, but I still have my mushroom. Should I give it to Gimbo? Or someone else? Once I've done that, you may proceed with lynching me.

What in this post says to you "Cream is definitely not a scum who bought a mushroom last night and started the game with four coins"? He has not tried to defend himself all game and continues this trend in this post. Seems like a hopeless scum claiming vanilla and guessing he's not gonna get away with it. Boy will he get a surprise when he comes back.

Also, you are hardcore rolefishing in your last post.

That was not role fishing that was a point of fact based on your reaction and not seeing what it is that others do see in this post.

What about iamausername makes his reaction scummy? I really see no case here at all, sorry.

[Alabaska J]

Because he is missing what you are missing in the claim.

farside, Gimbo, Surye, why are you unvoting Cream for claiming this game's version of a vanilla townie? How does that in any way convince you that the evidence against him is wrong?

I think you are scum too basically.
Beside iamausername and Alabaska J who wants me to explain what it is that is they are missing?
Actually one better. Popularjato (sorry I know I am killing your name here) Do you believe Cream's claim? Don't say why just answer. If you don't I will explain why I do after that. mkky

This is very bad for the town, I have just realized, and am ending the conversation here. I would request that we drop the issue of Cream's claim and test out RBT's vote thingy/lynch RBT?

[Alabaska J]

farside, I think* I got it.

Albaska - why are you so dead set on testing RBT's claim when it is really just unnecessary?

Do you have something else to do? Let's lynch RBT.

unvote, vote: Riceballtail

Anyone else find it scummy he ate Gimbo, a confirmed (essentially) townie who had tow votes?

[Alabaska J]

unvote; vote: iamausername

Bit slow on the uptake, aren't you?

Also, RBT is a

far

superior lynch today than ssf.

[Alabaska J]

Why did I eat Gimbo? Because I still found him scummy, even if he did have that mushroom. Assuming he is on the lynch-wagon today, I will have managed to personally confirm without item that Gimbo is a townie. Alabaska is beginning to become a substantially superior lynch to iam right now. I would be more than happy to see either strung up, but Alabaska is definitely being scummy beyond belief.

UNVOTE; VOTE Alabaska J

Had it right the first time.

Wow this is post is full of fail. I put forward even more evidence fora RBT to be scum and what do I get? An OMGUS vote. Should've known.

Gimbo was already essentially confirmed townie, we weren't going to lynch him definitely, and he has two votes!!!!!

And before you say anything, yes I know you couldn't have known he would have two votes today but still that choice was very anti-town. Why would you take away a vote from a confirmed townie unless you are scum?

[Alabaska J]

unvote; vote: iamausername

Bit slow on the uptake, aren't you?

No, I just read the thread after all the other wagoners.

The bandwagon on iamausername died b/c of the total absence of actual evidence. It's over, sorry.

[Alabaska J]

sure I cleared a townie & because I go after some who questioned it that is scummy? If a few people are questioning it what makes them town versus scum?

I def don't think what you did is scummy, I just think what they did is not scummy and if they are town they are FAR away from the right tree to bark up, if you catch my drift.

Who is this quote by?

[Alabaska J]

If Alabaska is scum, it wouldn't make sense for him to push for a lynch of a known non-Peach player (RBT), most likely scums will be pushing for the lynch of players whose roles hadn't be revealed yet to get a claim from said player.

It makes perfect sense, it's called "role-fishing". I see no reason why he would be doing it otherwise.

How on earth is it rolefishing when you've already claimed your role??

Also, why would you

try to

take the vote of a basically confirmed town if you can take a scum's vote? This seems very anti-town to me and leads me to believe you are not being truthful about you role. Also, your role has not been proven, as we don't know if Gimbo's vote counts or not yet, so stop acting like you are a confirmed townie.

Also, Gremwell, your vote seems very suspicious to me, but you'll be checked out tonight so I guess it doesn't matter anyway. Can I see some reasons please?

[Alabaska J]

Unvote, vote alabaska j.

I really don't like his OMGUSsy attitude toward, RBT, or his flippant attitude toward the iamausername wagon. I don't think either of them would be poor lynch choices.

um, read the thread? RBT is OMGUSsy to me; I've supported his lynch since day one. Also, the iamausername wagon was worse than the Phoebus wagon; people were voting him

because he wasn't a vanilla townie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our semi-confirmed townies really need to stop acting like scum.

[Alabaska J]

FoS: farside22

for that fantastic reach also.

[Alabaska J]

Reasons people should vote for Alabaska: he's being awfully defensive

oh no I'm defending myself when attacked; as the dutiful town-aligned player I am I should role over and get lynched for extremely poor reasons you are right

and trying to get people to lynch me

this is an argument? if that counts, chock another argument up for RBT's lynch: he's trying to get people to lynch me

; yet there has yet to be a counterclaim

you may be that role, except that you are scum and steal the vote no matter what and that is why there is no counterclaim

, or proof that my claim is false

again, you are much more likely to be lying about your role than fakeclaiming; I have never said your claim was false outright today

. Basically, since I found him suspicious, now he has to OMGUS me to death

you are stealing this from other people who failed to read the game lol. Love how you just switched onto this after others used it for a reason, even though it doesn't apply at all, because I went after you first genius

. So, let us carry on and lynch this scum.

wrong lol.

Me in bold. FYI lurkers and noobs who are skimming the thread: there isn't a case on me at all. Don't randomly jump on me; you'll end up looking anti-town and foolish. Instead, read the thread. I have disproved every argument against me already and now RBT is grasping at straws trying to keep it afloat.

TSPN, please reread all of my post refuting the argument against me and then tell me why I am scummy. And if you say I'm being defensive, I will steal mod privileges, replace Elias into this game, give him a dayvig, and have kill you

so damn hard

.



Let me say this again:

BEING DEFENSIVE IS IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM A SCUMTELL.

[Alabaska J]

However Alabaska, your plan of action, to bring Elias in and give him a dayvig, would not work. Elias has clearly disappeared off the face of the planet.

I don't get it. But I agree with the words in bold and that Riceball is just being antagonistic.

Elias is V/LA for like forever because of some summer camp.

[Alabaska J]

I don't like your attitude toward the semi-confirmed RBT.

You are semi-confirmed town. Gimbo is mostly-confirmed town. populartajo is confirmed town. RBT is someone who claimed and didn't get lynched because his claim was only slightly better than RS's. I'm not sure where you are getting this "semi-confirmed" business from. Just because he claimed and wasn't lynched doesn't mean he is town.

Also, I never said iamausername is town; I just said the reasons used in his wagon were crap. I am not going to lynch a person because they did not get a vanilla townie pm, sorry.

[Alabaska J]

Fake-claims given by mods are common in theme games, I believe. Also, maybe he got lucky or Yoshi is actually anti-town (that last one is a stretch definitely but sometimes mods like to switch it up to make flavor not so guessable).

[Alabaska J]

Is Gimbo gonna be replaced because of his indefinite suspension?

[Alabaska J]

How did this game die all of a sudden? Was Gimbo the only thing keeping it going?

[Alabaska J]

The case iamausername has just posted on mr. incrediball deserves some looking into.

Also, although he is throughly Rosso-esque, killa seven should not be let off the hook completely, in my opinion.

[Alabaska J]

EBWODP: throughly=thoroughly

[Alabaska J]

The case iamausername has just posted on mr. incrediball deserves some looking into.

Also, although he is throughly Rosso-esque, killa seven should not be let off the hook completely, in my opinion.

Says the guy that has votes on him. Why don't you make your own case instead of following along.

What the hell…I said I was looking into it. I just got home and read his post… I can't magically analyze all of their posts and make cases right away. What I can do is say that the evidence he has presented piques my interest and is an impetus for further scumhunting. Also, I don't see what having votes on me has to do with anything, especially seeing that there is no sound basis for those votes IMO.

[Alabaska J]

ok i just re read phoebus posts, i didnt like him at all day one. from him hoping on creams wagon then omgus vote on gimbo then back on creams wagon then omgus vote on me because i was attacking him for the peach fishing. phoebus play is very weird fora veteran, i dont like how he is playing this game. i would like to lynch cream and him equally.

Cream's not the lynch for today.

[Alabaska J]

In another news, I don't see nearly enough coin-claiming.

are you truly that dense?

in a game that involves coins, there are probably coin-stealing roles.

having everyone coin-claim is just giving a coin-stealer knowledge on who to target.

...but perhaps that's exactly what you wanted?

vote TSPN

This popped out at me: coin-stealing roles? That seems a bit odd. VEry much a reach, especially at that stage. There were many reasons he could have put forth as to why he was against TSPN's claim, and yet he chose that…hmmmm. Odd.

i think someone

needs

to protect gimbo.

This seems like a bit of a role-fish to me.

sorry for being away for a while!

i'm liking the way pop is getting coins. however, i am NOT liking your choice of target.

gremwall seems to be an odd one. he says it's ok for pop to try and nightkill him, even though he knows that if he's town, then the nightkill will fail, wasting a star. If he's scum, he's practically giving himself up, which i don't see a scum doing. but his pro-town line of thinking, well... it isn't very pro-town.

it's a null-tell on his alignment, but if pop hits grem, and he's pro-town, then we've lost a nightkill.


if the aim of the game is to find out grem's alignment, then it would be easier to feather him, no?

or have i got completely the wrong end of of the stick?


p.s. if this star thing works, i fully endorse using it for pop, or another confirmed townie, tomorrow.

This post just seems wishy-washy and contradictory. He starts out acting as though it is horrible to target Gremwell and good to use a star but ends up saying it is good to target Gremwell and horrible to use a star. Also WIFOMs the heck out of Gremwell's possible alignment. This looks to me like a post that someone makes to make it look like they are contributing to the thread but doesn't really know what to say.

i'm not sure how confirming grem confirms TSN. where does it say the feathers are sanity guaranteed?


(it's a reach, i know. but if we're considering the possibility that gimbo is scum, then why not do the same for TSN?)


i understand the star idea now. unfortunately, now the scum know not to try n kill pop anyway >.<

Now we get to the good (or should I say bad?) stuff. Sanity of feathers is a stupid thing to speculate about. It will just cause WIFOM, doubt, and confusion, things that are only good for anti-town roles. Also, justifies the comment by misinterpreting what people (myself included) were saying earlier about Gimbo's alignment. Even if he had gotten it right it wouldn't have been the same thing anyway.

that's some nice re-reading ash, and stuff that can't go unnoticed.

unvote vote cream

.

Hops on the Cream wagon fairly quickly. Doesn't really do anything like this day one, though.

that was wierd, farside. but as far as i'm concerned that little episode was a null-tell.

ok, who do we lynch? is my vote on cream?

unvote

.

After five days without a post he comes in to unvote so as not to get mixed up with the people (myself included) who were randomly attacked after Cream's claim, yet tries to appease us by saying the episode was a null-tell. Also asks who we should lynch. Many people have brought this up, but I don't see anything wrong with that question; I do it all the time, regardless of alignment. It's just a way of asking what we are doing during the day.

In conclusion, I think the mr. incrediball wagon has some merit. I like RBT better, but, since it is now obvious that we aren't lynching him today, my vote isn't doing any good.

unvote, vote: mr. incrediball

pending a reread of K7 and, with that last post of his being an impetus, goborage.

[Alabaska J]

Also, armlx, smalltown plus is open and ready to start once you (and pwnz) confirm.

[Alabaska J]

Remind me of your first choice again?

[Alabaska J]

Okay,

unvote

first of all. Now, let's end the speculation, unless y'all don't want to.

Iam: If you like I can explain what farside saw? If this is what everyone wants I will.

Alternatively we can do a random dice roll of all the people who claimed to get it, and line them up to explain it. Then highest roller has to explain, if they do - semi-confirmed, if they don't they become suspicious. Then second, third etc. until someone gets it right.

What? This issue is over. We decided not to talk about it, remember? I have a good guess at what it might be, but I'm not sure and according to farside it would be bad for the town for it to be revealed so yeah not gonna happen. You seem to be a couple pages behind every time you post.

FoS: ashmite84

[Alabaska J]

Good luck to Gurgi filling Gimbo shoes thar.

Also, I've noticed that I'm being cited as scummy by Gurgi for "game behavior." Is it possible for you to be any more vague? I really don't think so.

Also, Syzygy, any reasons for me to be scum outside of me attacking RBT in a way that looks to you like distancing? Also, why does it look like distancing to you other than scumhunting/tunnel-vision?

[Alabaska J]

Also, Syzygy, any reasons for me to be scum outside of me attacking RBT in a way that looks to you like distancing? Also, why does it look like distancing to you other than scumhunting/tunnel-vision?

huh?

Oh whoops, was that DBE? My bad.

[Alabaska J]

Pop already has eight, doesn't he?

Also, we have a new Gimbo everyone:

where IS everyone??

[Alabaska J]

Can someone cite a reason they are voting Alabaska/IAUN outside of their reactions to Cream's claim?

His push to vote out RBT based on what now?

This tells me you have not read any of my posts.

His argument with voting cream and stating that even thought Cream is claiming town and some people believe him that we should still lynch Cream.

Again, sorry I didn't get the vanilla townie pm and couldn't see what you saw. Also, your use of the present tense here is disturbing. I've been off that Cream for like a whole page now. Also, "even thought Cream is claiming town and some people believe him" wasn't the reason given for not lynching him. I believe it was "he breadcrumbed from the vanilla townie pm." Please get your facts straight before spewing stuff out.

The one thing I dislike is when someone point to someone else as scum and the person under pressure says this is good more reading. Sorry I have seen a number of scum types do this before.

I was under no pressure. If you seriously think I was ever on the chopping block, you are quite sadly mistaken.

[Alabaska J]

sorry I didn't get the vanilla townie pm and couldn't see what you saw.

Seriously, was that really necessary? Now the scums know you aren't vanilla (if you are not one of them that is) while to town you are a power or scum....doesn't help your case at all.

By the way, liked the Gimbo reference

If they didn't catch that from the wagon outing me/iamausername then they are either not on the site anymore and need to be replaced or mentally retarded and need to be replaced. We stopped discussing it to stop more outings, I believe.

btw, can't believe I never posted this: thanks again farside for hurting the town two straight days. :/

[Alabaska J]

Wow. My Gimbodar is calibrated off the charts.

[Alabaska J]

I think there is a mr. incrediball wagon going on, if I'm not mistaken.

[Alabaska J]

Yes, but for the coin pool to actually work it needs to be done before the lynch

pop has eight already I believe.

[Alabaska J]

did you even read my above post?

Yes. We gave eight coins to pop for his star.

Or did you mean we should give all of our coins to pop? I'm not so sure I'm comfortable with that.

[Alabaska J]

why not?

…

let's just leave it at I'm not very comfortable with that.

[Alabaska J]

If you see a flaw in the plan I'd like to hear it so it can be improved upon, but if you'd rather just say "I don't wanna" well I'd label that as down right scummy

Well, it involves speculation about roles, which isn't always a good idea. I need to decide whether or not I can speculate without hurting the town at a time other than midnight though.

Tomorrow I should be a little more coherent hopefully.

[Alabaska J]

mod prod mr. incrediball

[Alabaska J]

has he picked up his prod?

[Alabaska J]

can we please just lynch him. I really don't feel like waiting for a replacement even though it is the right thing to do.

anyone else know if he is posting elsewhere?

[Alabaska J]

can we please just lynch him. I really don't feel like waiting for a replacement even though it is the right thing to do.

I want a claim.

Just so I don't randomly get wagoned for this let me explain: I believe getting mr. i replaced is the right thing to do and DO NOT endorse a quick hammer. this post is me being lazy and impatient with flakers and expressing my disgust with the situation.

[Alabaska J]

If we massclaim then we know who Bowser is because he will claim he is Bowser, obvobv.

Anyway, I agree with pop making the list.

Also, why did you hide this information yesterday, RBT? And who is our other double voter?

[Alabaska J]

EBNWODP: or she, I suppose.

[Alabaska J]

So your vote counts when you vote the same as Mario/Luigi you're saying? Your role is being coming less and less believable.

No, my vote still counts for zero. I just double what their vote's value is. Clearly, this is what made the lynch happen. Whoever was voting, was a doublevoter as well.

Awwww, you should've targeted me...

Targeted you? I was under the impression that, first of all, you are already a double voter and, second of all, he only doubles mario or luigi, which, according to Gimbo, you aren't.

[Alabaska J]

SSF's posts make sense. I agree massclam may not be the best route to go, because if we do find Bowser, then we are pretty much fucked for the rest of the scum I believe. They will know all of our power roles, and who to nightkill.

I would like a clarification on Rule 25:

mod, can other scum factions kidnap Peach? Or just Bowser?

[Alabaska J]

Flea, Bowser's army already know who peach is, they kidnapped her, and if we do make the lynch then they'll likely just do it again. So how would a massclaim hurt?

The way I read the rule is that only Bowser can kidnap Peach and no the others or else this would make no sense. I'm not sure if other factions can kidnap her though, but I would think that when whomever kidnaps her from the faction is lynched, the faction can no longer kidnap her.

That would be a little unfair, I believe.

[Alabaska J]

EBWODP: Or him, I suppose.

[Alabaska J]

How much? Full claim? I'm guessing even though SSF and (to a lesser extent) I object, if it is to the town's wish I will claim.

I am Dr. Mario. Each night I can make some megavitamins and "prescribe" them to a player. These megavitamins are made with a special ingredient so as to protect a player from fireflowers instead of viruses. This special ingredient? Mushrooms. I have the option each night to buy a mushroom from the mod for only two coins and make it into a special megavitamin. This megavitamin is sent to the person I prescribed it to (I just send the name in the pm requesting to buy a mushroom to make things easier, although flavor-wise I suppose I'd actually have to receive the mushroom first but whatever), and they are safe for the night. I cannot prescribe a megavitamin to myself, nor can I use a mushroom at night.

I started with eight coins and a mushroom. I protected Gimbo night one using my mushroom, and then bought a mushroom and protected TSPN last night.

I have six coins right now, barring something funky last night (I don't have confirmation about coins from Lawrencelot yet). If this needs to be proven, I can prove it I guess.

So, yeah I'm basically a limited-use doc.

Next up?

[Alabaska J]

shit shit shit I started with ten and now have eight.

dammit I guess I got my numbers confused and because I have eight (again unless something weird happened) and then i thought I started with eight i must have messed them up in my head.

I posted my claim from what i remembered of my pm. i went back and checked afterwards just in case SHIT i messed up my coins. dammit if i get lynched because of this and the town loses DAMMIT i'm REALLY sorry.

arg /facepalm

I will NEVER post without having my fucking pm in front of my FUCKING EYES the whole time. Again, I'm really sorry about this. *crosses fingers he has not fucked the game for the town*

[Alabaska J]

Sorry about the amount of swearing in my last post; I was pretty flustered last night.

K7 looks like definite scum to me. Dunno about him as Bowser but he might be someone to look into after we save the princess.

Also, FaerieLord, how do you know it was you that was kidnapped?

[Alabaska J]

I don't like ashmite84's vote. Obvious jump onto the FL wagon. He's also been trying to get by the whole game. He should claim next.

[Alabaska J]

Also, FaerieLord, how do you know it was you that was kidnapped?

You don't. The only thing that proves this is the End of Day real vote count and then...we'll I'll be dead if we don't lynch bowser

I mean, only Bowser can do the kidnapping, correct?

My PM said I was kidnapped by Bowser.

Am I missing something here or did FL just contradict himself?

[Alabaska J]

Also, FaerieLord, how do you know it was you that was kidnapped?

You don't. The only thing that proves this is the End of Day real vote count and then...we'll I'll be dead if we don't lynch bowser

I mean, only Bowser can do the kidnapping, correct?

My PM said I was kidnapped by Bowser.

Am I missing something here or did FL just contradict himself?

You're missing something. FL addressed your question like it was posed like so: "how does the town know it was you that was kidnapped?"

At least, that's how I see it.

This makes sense.

[Alabaska J]

FL is tellin the truth.
peach isnt captured stop claiming please.

Why are you so sure, k7?

@flea i know who peach is and its not fl.
so i assume fl is tellin the truth.

Do you not see any holes in this logic?

Killa Seven is logic-proof.

lol. Seriously, either K7 or ashmite need to claim PRONTO.

[Alabaska J]

K7 if you are toadsworth, than why haven't you told us the name yet?

[Alabaska J]

K7 if you are toadsworth, than why haven't you told us the name yet?

The name of peach? I hope you aren't asking that.

FoS Alabaska

(If I'm wrong diregard)

No the name of Bowser. He said he is given the name of the kidnapper.

[Alabaska J]

Killa, how many coins do you have?

[Alabaska J]

wait I could just doc him.

[Alabaska J]

I cannot prescribe a megavitamin to myself, nor can I use a mushroom at night.

[Alabaska J]

Happy birthday FL.

Unvote

Not trusting K7 right now. Are you given a PM every night that Peach is

not

kidnapped telling you such?

Will claim if Pop wishes.

hey.

Claim now I'm pretty sure pop is cool with it.

[Alabaska J]

Killa, how many coins do you have?

6

Shouldn't be too hard to get him a star then.

[Alabaska J]

Happy birthday FL.

Unvote

Not trusting K7 right now. Are you given a PM every night that Peach is not kidnapped telling you such?

Will claim if Pop wishes.

Why would K7 lie? K7 and faerielord would have to be scum together, have planned an elaborate and counterclaimable plan in the event that they lynched the princess, rather than relying on the

20 in 21

chance that we would simply lynch the wrong person.

I want ashmite dead.

And yes, claim feather/star results, the sooner the better. Its not like you risk being NKed because of it.

I support this as well. I don't think there should be a question about this.

[Alabaska J]

gurgi what reasons do you have for wanting me dead? Baseless tunneling is not exactly in the town's best interest right now IMO.

[Alabaska J]

gurgi what reasons do you have for wanting me dead? Baseless tunneling is not exactly in the town's best interest right now IMO.

[Alabaska J]

gurgi what reasons do you have for wanting me dead? Baseless tunneling is not exactly in the town's best interest right now IMO.

[Alabaska J]

ITT we learn that Gurgi still thinks defensiveness is a scumtell.

Also, your thing about talking for other players? Yeah, that's a load of BS. If we wait for pop to come in and okay everyone, we are gonna be here until 2009. ashmite84 was at the top of plenty of scumdars and pop said he didn't know who should claim other than me.

Also, no comment on my claim? I guess you don't believe it, or else just skipped that page. Reasons?

Also, I am more than willing to protect K7. If anyone can grant something to protect me from being targeted by scum power (roleblock or bus driver, who knows what could be out there), that would reassure me, as I'm sure the scum are gonna want K7 dead pretty badly.

How many coins (if any) should I pool?

@forbiddanlight: if we lynch K7 then we lose valuable info about Peach being kidnapped. If/when she is kidnapped for real (assuming FL and K7 are telling the truth), K7 will be able to give us the kidnapper's name.

[Alabaska J]

I think finding Bowser is gonna be a lot of WIFOM and there is basically no way we can win, unless K7 and FL are telling the truth, in which case it doesn't matter who we lynch because Peach hasn't been kidnapped so we don't lose. I think WITHOUT K7's role this game would basically be impossible to win if Peach was kidnapped early on like she may have been today.

Anyone else agree?

[Alabaska J]

Also, because K7's role is so critical, I would prefer that he be given a star than me protecting him because of the risk of scum power.

[Alabaska J]

Drats! Foiled again! But remember: in Soviet Russia, double negatives exploit you!

lol

Also, how many coins should I give pop, if any? I'd like to be able to doc people still.

[Alabaska J]

how has this died.

Still waiting for input on coins.

[Alabaska J]

I would like the explanation from pop ASAP

[Alabaska J]

I shouldn't get a feather so I can protect someone. Also, K7 shold get a star.

[Alabaska J]

I'll protect K7 then and hope there is no scum power? Also, I would like a little more discussion about what we are doing today now that we have tonight worked out.

[Alabaska J]

Ashmite, you are seriously sooo jumpy.

If we are indeed believing FL's claim and just scumhunting,

FoS: ashmite84

.

If people express disbelief in FL's claim then my vote will be removed although trying to start up wagons by leeching basically, actively lurking, and a fairly safe vanilla townie claim (based on what was said yesterday) could be the best Bowser tell we have.

Also, based on believing FL's claim and just scumhunting, I would say Kort's slip is the biggest thing we have so far and essentially proves him to be scum.

Vote: Korts

Mod edit
Visible Votecount:
goborage (2): Riceballtail, iamausername
FaerieLord (1): Korts
ashmite84 (1): TheSweatpantsNinja
DarlaBlueEyes (1): populartajo
Korts (1): Alabaska J

Not voting (15): skitzer, Wintermute, forbiddanlight, somestrangeflea, Surye, killa seven, Gremwell, farside22, ting =), DarlaBlueEyes, FaerieLord, Lord Gurgi, Cream147, goborage, ashmite84

With 21 alive it takes 11 real votes to lynch.

[Alabaska J]

Also, based on believing FL's claim and just scumhunting, I would say Kort's slip is the biggest thing we have so far and essentially proves him to be scum. Vote: Korts

What was Korts' slip?

Him saying only Bowser can make the nightkill. This knowledge is not intuitive IMO.

[Alabaska J]

Really

don't know why this game is dying.

[Alabaska J]

Where?

[Alabaska J]

Surye's post + mine = good reason for a Korts wagon.

[Alabaska J]

Vote me, then.

I am. Not sure why more aren't.

[Alabaska J]

@Alabaska just curious, why were you against massclaiming when D3 started but then you were asking for K7's and ashmite's claims? And how does your night action exactly work? Do you buy the mushroom first or do you prescribe first? Are your vitamins items so that we can test them tomorrow by giving them to a player with no items?

So star for K7? What about a Mushroom?
Feathers for : TSPN, Gremwell and for me. Okay?
The only thing that makes me wonder about this is that maybe scum have a way to deal with this. However with no coins they cant buy fireflowers.
K7, I need an asnwer do you know who is Peach?

Mmm Im not feeling the Korts wagon.

Well, I went with massclaiming because it seemed that the rest of town wanted it, really. After I bothered claiming it's not like I was gonna be against everyone else, you know?

I get the mushroom then send it. I cannot protect if I have an item.

I don't think they count as items. I prescribe them to people and they eat it. I don't have them during the day. I can't make a pill and keep it to the next day (I tell the mod who I want to give the pill to and it is given to them and my mushroom disappears).

Also, I believe K7 has said he knows who Peach is already.

Why don't you like the Korts wagon? Pretty big slip IMO.

[Alabaska J]

I'm the new Gimbo.

Haha, mind if I sig that?

Me too.

TSPN, why ashmite over Korts? Korts seems so straightforward, I'm having trouble believing more people aren't voting him.

[Alabaska J]

Yeah Korts is our best bet today guys.

[Alabaska J]

Pop, I was under the impression we are no longer looking for Bowser. Are you not under this impression?

[Alabaska J]

I MADE A MISTAKE. NAT MADE A MISTAKE. YOU CAN'T CONDEM ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.

Isn't this what you did when you voted nat?

I really prefer Korts though.

[Alabaska J]

Hey guys lets get Korts up enough votes so he is lynched at deadline kthxbai

[Alabaska J]

Hey guys lets get Korts up enough votes so he is lynched at deadline kthxbai

Agreed.

vote: Korts

No. Guys, can we please lynch either Gobo or iamusername? I dont feel good with a Korts lynch. And maybe he should consider claiming before it is too late.

Why iamausername?

Also, goborage is a last resort IMO as he is getting replaced.

[Alabaska J]

Also there were some connections between you, Imausername and Armlx. Rite?

?

[Alabaska J]

You guys all fail. We are basically giving away our smaller power roles as town. I don't like this.

[Alabaska J]

wow I completely missed night. School sucks :/

I have no idea why there is a wagon on me. Gurgi just felt like voting me and people jumped on?

WHAT

?

[Alabaska J]

Wow. What the hell is going in here. Why can't there be Dr. Mario and Mario in the same game? What, exactly are the reasons for voting me? I can't talk about ongoing games, but trust me, populartajo is horrible at being confirmed town. Seriously can anyone come up with a reason to vote me other than outguessing the mod?

[Alabaska J]

Wow. What the hell is going in here. Why can't there be Dr. Mario and Mario in the same game? What, exactly are the reasons for voting me? I can't talk about ongoing games, but trust me, populartajo is horrible at being confirmed town. Seriously can anyone come up with a reason to vote me other than outguessing the mod?

Lol.
Ala, why dont you get double votes as your brother Luigi?

Because I'm

Doctor Mario

not

Mario

dumbass. Seriously, any reasons other than outguessing the mod? That would seriously fuck up the power balance if I got doubles too.

[Alabaska J]

Wow. What the hell is going in here. Why can't there be Dr. Mario and Mario in the same game? What, exactly are the reasons for voting me? I can't talk about ongoing games, but trust me, populartajo is horrible at being confirmed town. Seriously can anyone come up with a reason to vote me other than outguessing the mod?

Lol.
Ala, why dont you get double votes as your brother Luigi?

Because I'm

Doctor Mario

not

Mario

dumbass. Seriously, any reasons other than outguessing the mod? That would seriously fuck up the power balance if I got doubles too.

Chill out. Who is scum then?

I'm not sure. All of our confirmed townies (you, gurgi especially) keep messing with my scumdar.

Who did DBE replace? I don't like how she jumped on me.

Mod edit
Visible Votecount:
Alabaska J (5): farside22, forbiddanlight, Lord Gurgi, Natirasha, DarlaBlueEyes
Natirasha (1): ting =)

Not voting (12): skitzer, Surye, killa seven, Gremwell, Alabaska J, Cream147, Riceballtail, ashmite84, goborage, populartajo, somestrangeflea

With 17 alive it takes 9 real votes to lynch.

[Alabaska J]

for the record it dosn't say specifically but my pm says then in special situations my vote will count for more than one.

Mine doesn't. TADA pop we have fixed this problem you wifomed into existence.

[Alabaska J]

Mine doesn't. TADA pop we have fixed this problem you wifomed into existence.

Not precisely. We still have to outguess the mod. Why are there two marios? Why not multiple yoshis as said earlier?

Are there multiple versions of Yoshi in the games?

[Alabaska J]

Mine doesn't. TADA pop we have fixed this problem you wifomed into existence.

Not precisely. We still have to outguess the mod. Why are there two marios? Why not multiple yoshis as said earlier?

Are there multiple versions of Yoshi in the games?

Im not exactly sure about the regular mario games, but i think they had a yoshi game that had different versions of yoshi's in it.

If that counts as part of the mario universe, and my role exists along with gremwell's, then it could be plausible to have more than one Yoshi and the mod just didn't put it in the game.

Seriously, any reasons to lynch me that aren't outguessing the mod?

[Alabaska J]

vote: Natirasha

two coins for her? Why does she have two? Her claim looks pretty shifty too. I'm going with ting =) on this one.

Also seriously why are people voting me.

And SSF I have my own game franchise and am a separate character in SSBM. Unlike sheik and zelda, who transform into each other.

[Alabaska J]

well,

unvote, vote Alabaska

. 2 Mario's doesn't jibe, and the vote count discrepancies...well, it means someone, either you or SSF has something funny going on.

what

Seriously, are you retarded? Have you read any of my posts? This "2 mario's" thing is crap and trying to outguess the mod. THERE IS NO CASE AGAINST ME. Look at Nat. Changes her role claim. Has more coins than any other toad. Am I really a better lynch? Are you serious?

[Alabaska J]

Can we get some kind of consensus here? I see a lot of random votes still clogging up the votecount. Let me see if I can get this straight. Actual cases have been made (and followed up by votes by multiple people) against (in alphabetical order):

Alabaska J
Cream147

Gimbo

farside22
RogueShenanigans
TheSweatPantsNinja


We are obviously not lynching Gimbo today, which is why he is crossed out. These seem to be, at the moment, the people various members of the town feel to be scum for actual posted reasons (whether the reasons suck or are wrong is irrelevant). Any additions or does this seem to be the list of the likeliest to get lynched today so far?

Also,

mod prod: FaerieLord, killa seven, Dead Rikimaru, sideney, populartajo, Pepsidude, andersonw, and Gimbo

.

Even Ala thought there was a case against him at some point...

Hey buddy, that was day one. Nice misrepresentation.

[Alabaska J]

Also, Alabaska J was pushing HARD against cream early on, and gave it up with no fight at all for a vanilla claim. And now Cream repeatitedly keeps trying to distract the town from Alabaska with this nonsense about Nat.

Basically, everyone leaped off of the Cream wagon after farside started freaking out after his claim. I got tied up defending myself and then we lynched elsewhere.

As to the link to armlx and iamausername, armlx's posts concerning me look normal (thinks I'm town then thinks I'm scum later on), although I can see why people might think there is something there because he FoS'd me and didn't vote me. Other than that, however, they only look bad if you want them to and can probably be interpreted as scum commenting a townie just as easily. I have yet to see iamausername's posts relating to me so I have yet to comment on that.

[Alabaska J]

Also, Alabaska J was pushing HARD against cream early on, and gave it up with no fight at all for a vanilla claim. And now Cream repeatitedly keeps trying to distract the town from Alabaska with this nonsense about Nat.

Basically, everyone leaped off of the Cream wagon after farside started freaking out after his claim. I got tied up defending myself and then we lynched elsewhere.

As to the link to armlx and iamausername, armlx's posts concerning me look normal (thinks I'm town then thinks I'm scum later on), although I can see why people might think there is something there because he FoS'd me and didn't vote me. Other than that, however, they only look bad if you want them to and can probably be interpreted as scum commenting a townie just as easily. I have yet to see iamausername's posts relating to me so I have yet to comment on that.

You were the one who kept saying you don't see the case on Iamausername. If you want I will be glad to fish those quotes for you.

Oh. Because there was no case on him. I don't care if he turned scum, there was no case there. Basically you wanted to lynch him because he wasn't a vanilla townie. That is not a reason in my book, regardless of whether he turned scum or not. Look at me; I didn't get the vanilla townie pm and I'm not scum. Same with FL, K7, and Gremwell.

[Alabaska J]

I'm not defending nat at all, nat is just a distraction from the more obvious lynch of Alabaska. There will be another day.

Again, any evidence? Or semblance of a case? Basically you've latched onto Gurgi's rantings for no discernible reason.

One vote here.

[Alabaska J]

This should be helpful

There's actually a decent reason (for page 1) to believe Alabaska is town right now, btw.

It's not 100% assured, but usually mafia are allowed to talk during day start confirm phases (ie. every newbie game atm). I would think that Alabaska as scum would have at least noticed if his inbox started filling with messages from random people.

I don't like this. Its practically a mass claim on coins, which I think will help the mafia more then us by far.

Alabaska's distrust of a confirmed townie is odd. Add him to the list.

MafiaSSK replaced out as soon as being prodded? Shocking.

Unvote, vote farside.

Where is that coming from?

FOS Alabaska

, might become a vote.

I endorse this post. I seemed to remember alabaska's vote flopping a lot, but upon review it wasn't anything other people didn't do (the whole deadline issue).

Can someone cite a reason they are voting Alabaska/IAUN outside of their reactions to Cream's claim?

Hey genius! You read the thread lately? I've replied to this.

[Alabaska J]

You wanted a case, this one holds together.

So you are ignoring my reply?

[Alabaska J]

SURYE WHY ARE YOU PUSHING MY LYNCH SO HARD WITH SO LITTLE EVIDENCE IT IS NOT LIKE YOU.

RL pwns me for a few days and now I'm about to be hammered?????????? what is this.

I have basically claimed doc. There is a phantom link between armlx and me. There is some outguessing the mod. There is me

rightfully

defending iamausername (even though he was scum). And I am the one about to be lynched. Natirasha has changed her role claim over 9000 times and Lord Gurgi is voting me probably only because he doesn't like me in GD and the title fairy thread.

Town you have better lynches today.

This is extremely frustrating.

[Alabaska J]

Oh and one more thing I saw pop bring up.

Korts was scum, and I pushed for his lynch

hard

even when the rest of the town didn't feel me on him. He came out scum. How is

that

not a town-tell? I know you guys will WIFOM it all to hell saying it was a bus but if

that

was a bus than anyone lynching anyone for any reason (hell even an un-cc'd cop report) could be called a bus and get them lynched the next day.

This town is playing rather poorly, especially it's confirmed. Gurgi has tunneled on me and pop is giving in to him and noobs/scum following him.

I strongly believe Surye to be scum based on his stance and my past experiences with him. In fact,

unvote, vote: Surye

my scumdar is on him much greater than Nat's botched claims right now.

[Alabaska J]

I don't bring in outside grudges, I just don't find your titles very funny. I usually do just

pick a scum by gut and run with it.

this is the driving force behind my lynch guys :/