NoPowerOverMe's Mini Normal Review, July 2020

[NoPowerOverMe]

Hi all.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I purposefully added scum power because town have won handily in several of my previous games.

I think there needs to be WIFOM setup in games to discourage town from winning the game based solely on what they expect the setup to be.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I take it you want me to take out the miller in favor of a VT?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Also I see you added the power of the cop, which is okay.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Why is IC+Doctor+Watcher unpassable?

[NoPowerOverMe]

So take out innocent child for miller.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I don't see how the argument holds true though if the doctor is one shot. I could also switch out the doctor for another role like Ninja 1 Shot Night 3 Vigilante

[NoPowerOverMe]

Is no one wanting to review this anymore?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Should I pm her or do we need a new reviewer?

[NoPowerOverMe]

With 4 VT? That works for me.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Mafia Role PM's:

You are a

Mafia Even Night Commuter

Win Conditions:

You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Abilities:

You share a Private Topic with your fellow scum; [names]. The Private Topic is here.
You have a factional night-kill meaning that each night one of you may night-kill a player.
On even numbered nights you "leave town", making you immune to night actions.

You are a

Mafia Neighbor

Win Conditions:

You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Abilities:

You share a Private Topic with your fellow scum; [names]. The Private Topic is here.
You have a factional night-kill meaning that each night one of you may night-kill a player.
You share a private topic with one of your teammates, PX, and one opponent, PY. The Private Topic is here.

[NoPowerOverMe]

[quote="In post 0, implosion"][quote="NoPowerOverMe"]Here is my game setup:
Townx9: Innocent Child; Miller; 2 shot watcher; 1 shot cop; 1 shot doctor, Neighbor, 4xVT
Mafia:x3 Even Night Commuter, Neighborx2

Role PMs:

You are a

Town Innocent Child

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

You may PM the mod at any time to have him reveal your role to everyone in the game topic.

2 Shot Watcher
You are a

Town 2 Shot Watcher

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

Twice during the game at night, you may target a player to be watched, thus discovering if that player was targeted in the same night phase and if somebody did who. You will receive a Private Message from the moderator containing the names(s) of the players.

You are a

Town Even Night Cop

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

On even numbered nights, you may target a player to be inspected, thus discovering their alignment. You will receive a Private Message from the moderator containing either [Mafia] or [Not-Mafia].

You are a

Town 1 shot Jailkeeper

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

Once per game at night you may target a player to be jailkept, which both protects them and roleblocks them.

You are a

Town Neighbor

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

You will have access to a seperate Private Topic that includes two other neighbors, PX and PY. Their alignment is not confirmed. The PT is located here.

You are a

Vanilla Townie

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

You have no abilities, your strength is your vote and intellect.[/b]

[NoPowerOverMe]

Borrowed from Plutonium

Follow all site rules.
Mod colour – My mod colour is blue; don't use it.
Behaviour - This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself eliminated if you try it.
Don't talk about ongoing games - You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
Use of term "lynch" - In support of the Black Lives Matter movement and to combat systematic racism, please avoid use of the word lynch when possible.
Tiny text - The minimum text size permitted is 70.
Provable randomness - is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
Claiming scum - by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
Cryptography - is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.
Confirmation - You have about 72 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if everyone confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
Days - Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements, or if the majority of players make it clear to me that an extension is desired.
Activity - You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. The activity timers run at half-speed on weekends. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night.
Vacation/Limited Access If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare V/LA in bold in the thread like this:

@Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday

. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
Prodging - A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."
Quoting - You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
Voting - Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Raya36 or Vote: Raya36. Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type VOTE: NoPowerOverMe/v] to vote and UNVOTE: NoPowerOverMee to unvote.
Elimination - Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the day will end without an elimination. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.
Twilight - Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.
Night - Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
Action submissions - You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
Reminders - If I don't hear from you about your night actions, I'll PM you 24 hours before the deadline. This doesn't count as a prod. If I still don't hear from you, you will take no action.
Notes PT - Let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. This thread will be made public immediately after the game. You may draft posts in your notes PT but you may not talk about your notes PT in public. You definitely may not use the notes PT to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.
Day Talk - Mafia have day talk and may communicate in their PT at any time.
Play to win - this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!

[NoPowerOverMe]

You are a

Mafia Even Night Commuter

Win Conditions:

You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Abilities:

You share a Private Topic with your fellow scum; [names]. The Private Topic is here.
You have a factional night-kill meaning that each night one of you may night-kill a player.
On even numbered nights you "leave town", making you immune to night actions.

You are a

Mafia Neighbor

Win Conditions:

You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Abilities:

You share a Private Topic with your fellow scum; [names]. The Private Topic is here.
You have a factional night-kill meaning that each night one of you may night-kill a player.
You share a private topic with Player X and Player Y. The Private Topic is here.

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[NoPowerOverMe]

You are a

Town Innocent Child

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

You may PM the mod at any time to have him reveal that you are aligned with the town.

You are a

Town Personal Watcher

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

As a night action, you may target a player to determine if anyone visited that person. However, the Personal conditional means that you can only use the ability on town players, not mafia players.

You are a

Town Even Night Cop

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

On even numbered nights, you may target a player to be inspected, thus discovering their alignment. You will receive a Private Message from the moderator containing either [Mafia] or [Not-Mafia].

You are a

Town 1 shot Jailkeeper

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

One time only, as a night action, you may target a player to be jailkept, which both protects them and roleblocks them.

You are a

Town Neighbor

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

You will have access to a seperate Private Topic that includes two other neighbors, PX and PY. Their alignment is not confirmed. The PT is located here.

You are a

Vanilla Townie

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

You have no abilities, your strength is your vote and intellect.

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[NoPowerOverMe]

With Commuter correction:

You are a

Mafia Even Night Commuter

Win Conditions:

You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Abilities:

You share a Private Topic with your fellow scum; [names]. The Private Topic is here.
You have a factional night-kill meaning that each night one of you may night-kill a player.
On even numbered nights you have the option to "leave town", making you immune to night actions.

You are a

Mafia Neighbor

Win Conditions:

You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Abilities:

You share a Private Topic with your fellow scum; [names]. The Private Topic is here.
You have a factional night-kill meaning that each night one of you may night-kill a player.
You share a private topic with Player X and Player Y. The Private Topic is here.

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[NoPowerOverMe]

No daytalk.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Doesn't having personal watcher basically make it like a cop, they will assume if they don't get a result the person is mafia? Shouldn't we switch it to 1 shot or 2 shot in that case?

[NoPowerOverMe]

So if the watcher tried to watch the mafia kill they wouldn't see it right?

[NoPowerOverMe]

You are a

Town Personal Watcher

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

As a night action, you may target a player to determine if anyone visited that person. However, if you are watching the mafia factional kill you will not be able to see it.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Do I need to do anything with the rules?

[NoPowerOverMe]

You are a

Town Personal Watcher

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

As a night action, you may target a player to determine if anyone visited that person as well as who visited them. However, if you are watching the mafia factional kill you will not be able to see it.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Do you actually want to see the VT pm with the rules or do you trust me?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Okay, I posted that from another ruleset. I'll change that mafia do not have daytalk.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Is this approved?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Sample Vanilla Town Role PM:

You are a

Vanilla Townie

Win Conditions:

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:

You have no abilities, your strength is your vote and intellect.

Follow all site rules.

Mod colour

– My mod colour is

blue

; don't use it.

Behaviour

- This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself eliminated if you try it.

Don't talk about ongoing games

- You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.

Use of term "lynch"

- In support of the Black Lives Matter movement and to combat systematic racism, please avoid use of the word lynch when possible.

Tiny text

- The minimum text size permitted is 70.

Provable randomness

- is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.

Claiming scum

- by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.

Cryptography

- is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.

Confirmation

- You have about 72 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if everyone confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.

Days

- Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements, or if the majority of players make it clear to me that an extension is desired.

Activity

- You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. The activity timers run at half-speed on weekends. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night.

Vacation/Limited Access

If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare V/LA in bold in the thread like this: @Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.

Prodging

- A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."

Quoting

- You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.

Voting

- Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Raya36 or Vote: Raya36. Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type VOTE: NoPowerOverMe/v] to vote and UNVOTE: NoPowerOverMee to unvote.

Elimination

- Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the day will end without an elimination. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.

Twilight

- Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.

Night

- Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.

Action submissions

- You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.

Reminders

- If I don't hear from you about your night actions, I'll PM you 24 hours before the deadline. This doesn't count as a prod. If I still don't hear from you, you will take no action.

Notes PT

- Let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. This thread will be made public immediately after the game. You may draft posts in your notes PT but you may not talk about your notes PT in public. You definitely may not use the notes PT to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.

Day Talk

- Mafia do not have daytalk.

Play to win

- this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!

[NoPowerOverMe]

Thx for ur help.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Does the listmod know this is approved?