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Post Post #1223 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:38 pm

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Spiffeh!

Why must I constantly misread you

I just always trust the mouse :(
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Post Post #1229 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:41 pm

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Spiffeh please say some nice words to me

My heart, it quivers
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:44 pm

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In post 1234, Spiffeh wrote:unwnd I'm sad you replaced out I could have used someone hard townreading me in Forwards :P
This is the second game now Spiffeh

Your mystique and 'is he really doing something or not' just gets me everytime
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Post Post #1242 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:45 pm

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I literally conceded to LLD when I scumread her cause I just didn't have the mental energy to push it

I'm sorry guys
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:46 pm

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Skitter sorry for scumreading you D1 but I came around to it and realized it was nonsense eventually
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Post Post #1254 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:47 pm

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Be town next time Spiffeh

Or just get a free townread from me either one
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #6) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:49 pm

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In post 1260, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1248, unwnd wrote:Skitter sorry for scumreading you D1 but I came around to it and realized it was nonsense eventually
Nah it's fine.
I really feel like it sorta lingered

There was some really unfortunate stuff that happened for town like Shellyc modkill (and a banned user wtf), on top of that Titus/S_S lover death

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Post Post #1268 (isolation #7) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:51 pm

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I like everyone here and harbor no ill will

Game's tough, Cabd did a great snowing and a great showing
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:52 pm

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I had to endure cabd evil laughter and taunting after I figured it out it was him by d2
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Post Post #1282 (isolation #9) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:56 pm

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I actually do think FL was really town and Pooky used a bad angle to kill him but bias
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Post Post #1292 (isolation #10) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:59 pm

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You got me to concede LLD if you don't wanna read back

Well played both you and Cabd in that other thread, it lead to my demise
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Post Post #1299 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:01 pm

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The peta death was very unfortunate and very shocking at the same time
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:04 pm

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Dunn thanks for taking over, you got snowed but Cabd was trying his ass off

I don't really blame you for it
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:06 pm

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In post 1313, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1309, unwnd wrote:Dunn thanks for taking over, you got snowed but Cabd was trying his ass off

I don't really blame you for it
True, you guys should read the neighborhood

I was going off your reads at the start
Few of them were good

Besides Spiffeh we don't talk about that one

Also

When I said Not a herosolve

It was not a herosolve

For clarification
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Post Post #1415 (isolation #14) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:13 am

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I also really like that as well, sucks that he broke it because frustration got to him
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #15) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:18 am

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Wallposts build character if they're done right. I think the thing was walls is that sometimes you can get in a tangent and you end up saying a lot of shit that could've been trimmed down. It's basically just striking a balance between brevity and necessity, which is my goal most of the time when I write them

Bring back walls
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Post Post #1421 (isolation #16) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:20 am

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I hope my walls were understandable (bonus points: agreeable)

Game's not fun to me just calling someone scum, I wanna bury my opponents...
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #17) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:24 am

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In post 1423, skitter30 wrote:Honestly dont remember them

Thw thing is that in a game like this ur not gonna get heard as a wallposter. Nobody's gonna read it or retain it
Yeah it was really demotivating me. I don't think every post needs to be a wall mind you, but if you have a scumread I wanna hear more about the innerworkings instead of essentially going 'just trust me bro'

Too much tonal/soulreading and it's very very fucking boring
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Post Post #1426 (isolation #18) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:26 am

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Which townread? Was it on Spiffeh?
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Post Post #1429 (isolation #19) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:29 am

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The rest of that was pretty good for my own end! I had Gyp/Pooky/A50 all within my null or lower
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Post Post #1431 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:30 am

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I remembering replacing out and feeling relieved my scumdar wasn't completely fucking broken

Was seriously lost at some points even on D1
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Post Post #1434 (isolation #21) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am

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Yeah you had some good reads and were starting to realize a bunch of stuff, few snags there but like

The influence was just way too deep by then, which sucked
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #22) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:37 am

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That's why townblocks are bad news especially if scum invades that space

Confbiasing a group of people and just oging 'ok so I never have to sort this' only works maybe 60% of the time?
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #23) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:38 am

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If a townblock works

It sucks shit for scum, but townblocks can be whittled down or killed into

I don't understand why people weren't thinking 'jee, why is Cabd still alive' even at a base level
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #24) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:41 am

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I'm fine with that if your defintion was ubiquitous, but I feel like town relies on them too much

When I'm posting and it feels like town is on that page posting with me it really helps my comfort

But if it's a bunch of sharks then it feels like shit and that whole 'sorting' process becomes way harder to express
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #25) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:42 am

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Other general complaint

Kinda bored with the whole 'solve' mentality, I think it's afflicting. Play for the day you're in, not future ones. Too many people want the solve and lose sight of the fucking goal lol
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Post Post #1450 (isolation #26) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:44 am

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What good is the solve if

1) You can't express it
2) Nobody believes you
3) Scum sees that you're 3/3 and goes 'oh I guess we gotta kill them'

Town
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to be more careful with the information they present, that includes reads. Make scum guess your intentions as well? I feel like Cabd had the playbook in that sense..
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #27) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:47 am

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That's because town wasn't sensitive to their information cause a shitty townblock formed and people were just like 'Cabd-sama solve the game for us'
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #28) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:50 am

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God, QFT

I believe this playerlist is very competent even after this loss, just gotta do a bit more individual stuff and then forming a townblock based on provided evidence

Day 1 was just literal all fucking assumption, that's why it's so so bad to want a solve D1

What good is assumptions and who gives a shit if you assumed the scum on D1 lol
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Post Post #1460 (isolation #29) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:54 am

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Cabd you're a fucking bastard this game but I respect the hell out of you

I hope people read this game (and maybe you even win a scummy off of it) and they realize being scum can be really fun and rewarding. It's worth the effort
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #30) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:59 am

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I will never not be a little mad that Gypyx was obvious scum by the time he faked that dayvig shot (I even called this out) and it resulted to
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #31) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:18 am

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I've never crumbed my role in my entire life

Crumbs were always bad, and also I'm surprised scum have stopped fake crumbing too?
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Post Post #1483 (isolation #32) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:44 pm

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In post 1480, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1419, unwnd wrote:Wallposts build character if they're done right. I think the thing was walls is that sometimes you can get in a tangent and you end up saying a lot of shit that could've been trimmed down. It's basically just striking a balance between brevity and necessity, which is my goal most of the time when I write them

Bring back walls
Wall posts enable scum to hide behind content over conviction and action.

Look, anything town does, scum can counter and use in ways that harm the town. Neighbourhoods are busted, but if scum gets to maximize them, it's over.

Townblocking can lock down a game.... unless scum get to corrupt it.

Wall posts can convince people of a lot of things... but scum can take those and make the game from a 10 page game into a 100 page game and everyone can lean tvt.

what I think people need to staart seeing is that just cause it feels town don't mean it is, and that people need to be willing to compromise more on votes early to test players who have a lot of charisma.

It's the old Glork test. People used to give glork like... one day to find a bunch of scum and have his pick of who should die.

And if he failed, they'd kill him. Not everyone needs THAT level of burdened proficency, but it helps not turn the game into a stew of 10000000 posts that no one wants to read.

Also, rest in peace Glork. =(
Yeah I'm very aware of this and have been apart of it, even done this to same effect. It's more engaging to me though personally, and I think basically everything requires balance. I don't wanna 10 walls on one page but I want people to have the
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