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Positive vote: Voodobecause his namesake is evil.
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Alternative account. Smurf.nhat wrote:Also, what do you guys mean by alt?UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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positive unvote, vote:Timeater
Leaving a mini on page 2? ¬¬UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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What are you insinuating?Vivian Darkblaam wrote:
Says the guy with a Pooky bear in his account.TonyMontana wrote:
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Nah, that's from way back, in 2005. It's a play on another user's icon (the homer aiming at pooky) Since you're so attentive to icons, you might know who that third guy is, i can't for the life of me remember.Vivian Darkblaam wrote:That the inclusion of an icon associated with PookyTheMagicalBear in your avatar could indicate that you are, in fact, his alt. Just as the several allusions in my own profile indicate whose I am.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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4th, thankyouverymuchFalcone wrote: For good measure, TonyMontana deserves some suspicion for being the 5th vote for Timeater, with an equally crappy reason.
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I dunno if you've heard, but this mafia has a different voting system. ¬¬Falcone wrote:Also, why are you unvoting and revoting Timeater in the same post?
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a) scum buddy up to townsfolk.populartajo wrote:This doesnt make sense becuase a)if there's buddying then both have to be scum not just one and b)it was so fucking early to tell who is scum and who isnt with that degree of certainty.......
If we are lynching people primarily for information, I find your lynch very educational, Tajo.
unvote both
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Sorry, must have missed it?No comment on the question I asked of you several times.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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The buddy comment was not related to the vote. And I unvoted because I believe Tajo's claim.nhat wrote:Meanwhile, TonyMontana is looking odd. Votes tajo for trying to buddy up with someone, then he abruptly unvotes. I think he's got some splainin to do.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Woops, yeah i do remember that questionFalcone wrote:Falcone, #131 wrote:Falcone, #104 wrote:Do you mean you intended to unvote your negative vote for yourself, and then negative vote Timeater, while also leaving your positive vote on Timeater? If so, why?
Well, basically, I nulled out so it was just a quirky way to unvote.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Bandwaggoning.Falcone wrote: Why did you vote for populartajo then?
Why do you believe the claim?
Well, I guess the fact that a line from his claim was identical (As in word for word) to my own town role was what I took notice of first. It's somewhat of a common phrase for pro-town role PMs, and I'm unsure of if you could assume it's being used, judging from what you get as a scum.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Yeah, I kinda thought that, but i did a quick survey of like 5 mini games, and only found 1 instance of it being used.
So it may be regularly used, but it's not a safe bet.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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You know, this just might be a brilliant play... -.-
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Well, that was what i was wondering about earlier. (if a scum could predict the town win condition from the scum condition) And I did alittle research.ShadowGirl wrote: On the other hand, if tajo is scum he could just inverse whatever his win condition is to make it look like he's town. Still, it seems like a bit too risky to do if he's lying.
First of all, it was ridiculously hard to find games in this forum with that win condition. Secondly, in the few games I found, there was no consistancy in scum vs town win condition.
So I have little doubt about tajo's claim, and I don't think anyone else with the win condition should have either.
Of course any claim to have the same win condition after I pointed it out is about as valid as saying "I am town".
Muerrto would have us believe that him questioning me of the win condition was the line I meant, is indication that he also has the condition. Which of course is at best indication of nothing. In fact, the way he asked it kinda indicated he wasn't aware of the full extent of right sentence (you with the condition know what I'm talking about) I dunno, my gut is just telling me that the way he responded to it doesn't quite sit right.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Well, the movie obviously makes sense.. For the role. The song does not make sense... at all.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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The hell is a tennis ball runner?
And his sentence would only make grammatical sense if he meant "professional".
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Well either way, I see much more of a connection between Tajo's flavour and mine.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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I'm saying, in response that you say that "Disturbia" seems weird in light of Time's softclaim, that "Disturbia" makes more sense compared to my own.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Didn't notice this until Batt mentioned it. (In my defense, the post counts are not easy on he eyes :p)skitzer wrote:Note: The win condition may not be the same for all playerfs.
Well, that certainly changes things alittle. Not for Tajo's claim, but certainly that anyone else would be jduged/redeemed by their response to it...UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Yeah, we're gonna lynch a powerrole, on the case that he was reaaaaaaaally lucky. ¬¬
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[face_palm]Falcone wrote:You admitted to having been extremely lucky to guess the protown win condition in your claim. If you really were protown, you wouldn't have had to guess. Therefore, you're scum.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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I didn't have any information in mind. It was just a counter-punch to Tajo saying he wanted info from an ergo lynch.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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The comment was mostly directed at you. Which was before i realized you were making theFalcone wrote: This is a ridiculous post. It's a blatant misrepresentation of Muerrto's case against populartajo (which is at least a lot better than populartajo's case against Muerrto).ridiculousassumption that Tajo actually stated to have been guessing the win condition.
If tajo doesn't, you will.Falcone wrote:If populartajo turns out to be scum, and I expect he will, TonyMontana will be next in line.
Look, the only viable buddy scenario here is that I am scum (with uncharacteristically good skills).
That Tajo guessed the win condition is highly unlikely to start with, but that I made a play to point out the validity of the condition, without being able to know if it's right is downright preposterous.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Shadow, I have already admitted to have been bandwagoning Tajo. Try to keep up.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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They why would you use that sentence?TonyMontana wrote:I didn't have any information in mind. It was just a counter-punch to Tajo saying he wanted info from an ergo lynch.TonyMontana wrote:I didn't have any information in mind.It was just a counter-punch to Tajo saying he wanted info from an ergo lynch.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Uh, the obvious one. That he is dissing muerrto for assuming that Tajo was just lucky in guessing. I understand that grammatically he is saying what you say. But logically you have to be pretty daft to not understand what he was trying to say.Falcone wrote:
The only conclusion I can draw from this line is that populartajo admits to having guessed the protown win condition. That means he’s scum.populartajo wrote:In the meanwhile, can anyone tell me why this guy can't simply believe I am a watcher and that I was extremely lucky to guess his win condition?
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Read again.ShadowGirl wrote:
If you were scum and he were town, then he would have no reason to lie about it. And thus, I wouldn't say it's quite so preposterous to make a move that would make you look cleared.Tony wrote:Look, the only viable buddy scenario here is that I am scum (with uncharacteristically good skills).
That Tajo guessed the win condition is highly unlikely to start with, but that I made a play to point out the validity of the condition, without being able to know if it's right is downright preposterous.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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I am not assuming he guessed it. People who doesn't believe him are assuming it.ShadowGirl wrote:
Why are we assuming he guessed it? If he's town he would know it.TonyMontana wrote:
Read again.ShadowGirl wrote:
If you were scum and he were town, then he would have no reason to lie about it. And thus, I wouldn't say it's quite so preposterous to make a move that would make you look cleared.Tony wrote:Look, the only viable buddy scenario here is that I am scum (with uncharacteristically good skills).
That Tajo guessed the win condition is highly unlikely to start with, but that I made a play to point out the validity of the condition, without being able to know if it's right is downright preposterous.
My "preposterous" scenario was if both me and Tajo was scum.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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I think we ought to leave the win conditions alone. I don't see anything good coming out of trying map out the differences in win conditions.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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It might help scum in the search of powerroles?Vivian Darkblaam wrote:I disagree. Win conditions, their wording, and their variation have become a major issue, so I feel that it would be in the town's best interests to get as much information about them out there as is available. How could it hurt?
*hoping for Person C*Vivian Darkblaam wrote:@Tony-Montana: You don't take somebody's wording for no reason. If you call his lynch full of information, you're calling his lynch full of information. I really don't buy the way you're trying to back out of this, and to put it another way, consider the following conversation.
Person A: You're dumb.
Person B: No, you're dumb.
Person C: Hey, Person B, did you just call Person A dumb?
Person B: No, I called him ugly.
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I don't know. I'm just saying, the less we know the better.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Look, Shadowgirl, what do you expect to learn from a reveal of who has the same win condition?UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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So basically, you are using wifom to turn both of tajo's hypothetical flips into scumtells for me?Grimmy wrote:Another suspect: Tony Montana.
you seem to be defending Tajo a little TOO much.
-if he flips town, you feel it will clear you as you attached yourself to him with your defense of him.
-If he flips scum, and you are his scum buddy, people will think that you made the mistake of buddying to scum and got fooled. This provides cover for you (I beleive someone put together a "if tajo is scum, then tony is town" arguement earlier)UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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No. Not similar at all.Muerrto wrote:Is that anything similar to you using WIFOM to saying because tajo said he's town(by 'quoting' his PM) that he's town and since I disagree I'm scum?UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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I have never said that was a viable option. I have never heard of this occurring before, and I think it's even more rare than the win condition is.Muerrto wrote:for defending Tajo for the same wrong reasons. You said it was weird and rare for scum to get the townie win condition, yet Tony and Tajo placed that as a viable option. That's ridiculous.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Does this mean a negative majority is also a lynch?
Who wanna volunteer to be human test dummy?UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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I read it as "lynch attempt failed" but I see now that it makes more sense that we turned it unlynchable.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Massive!You have no problem with the massive buddying Tony's been giving you all game.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Negative vote: Tajo
In case someone missed it, deadline is in 11 days.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Why, because I'm using my votes to advocate the lynch I think is better?UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Well I certainly think it's regrettable if me being adamant about believing Tajo's claim should somehow cast suspicion on him.Grimmy wrote: The negative vote to further protect your "buddy" pushes this further towards the pairing arguement. I am willing go to for either a tajo lynch or a TonyM lynch today, and the FOS will likely remain upon the other tomorrow.
I just don't see the rationality behind the argument that we're both scum because we're "buddying" up. Could you explain this rationale?UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Because i can. What's the point of having negative vote powers, if you're not gonna use em to promote your intentions? -.-UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Strongly enough to keep him from being lynched.ShadowGirl wrote: So you feel strongly about tajo not being scum?UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Being abrasive or tact-less is not a scumtell.Muerrto wrote:No, I mean his vehemence and insults instead of simply saying 'that was a retarded reason to vote me' or 'how does my asking for your prod make me scum'? Also, town would've most likely said 'oops didn't see you just posted' instead of trying to pursue the crappy case on me.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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I do find this accusation to be without merit.Battousai wrote:I do find it interesting that Tony just seems to disappear for a bit when he and sometimes Tajo aren't being put on the chopping block.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Regarding the quote rule, I was kinda weary of that at first too. It's up to the discretion of the Mod to decide what counts as violation of that rule, and I think after the whole debacle about the win condition, skitzer's chose to point out that not all win conditions are the same, and leave it at that.
Tajo didn't actually quote it, but it's a fine line. Modkills shouldn't come easy, tho, and the whole incident has stirred up alot of discussion...UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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I think that's why skitzer put them in the replacement box....populartajo wrote:Just checked
Ergo and Falcone are both missing since the 15th. (Curious,huh?) Probably need replacing.
fuzzylightning is posting in his other game.Mod: prod him please.UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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mod: can we get a exact time on the deadline?
It will be approximately 4:00 PM U.S. Central Time, and I'm really unsure but I think that is 9:00PM GMT.
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Muerrto - 1
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I'd like to revise my listand make a total.
You know, this could be interesting to analyze, once people start flipping.
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Oh, nothing, I just wanted to spread out the points alittle to make an order. It's really a wash between everyone under 5.Battousai wrote:What have I done in the past post that would make you put me from a 3 to a 2?UpcomingMiniTheme: Rainbow Six|Siege Mafia-
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Yeah, I did put you on the fence intentionally.ShadowGirl wrote:Also, Tony, how have I gone from a 7 to 5? Or is this just based on the new system that 5 is an 'on the fence' vote?
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