Umlaut's Mini Normal Review, May 2021

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Ego

Intuition says it's scumsided.

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What's the point of having the neighborizer be roaming? Is it to tip off town that there's a scum roleblocker?

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oh I totally missed that encryptor got guiltied by the neighborizer lol. (I hate that interaction so much.) I still don't understand how the roaming matters for it though?

pedit: is that a thing people actually do

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It doesn't even prove you aren't scum unless there's one scum left?

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I wouldn't even call it old school, I don't think it's how encryptors used to work. It's just weird.

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I think that's probably the bigger effect.

The problem imo is that not everyone is going to think of that, and it's kind of a big deal whether they do or not.

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I do not like the neighborizer/encryptor interaction; it feels like a random guilty that doesn't come about due to good play by town (and can even come about due to BAD play by town if they were neighborizing their townreads).

and I agree that the RB neighborizer while they try to neighborize the encryptor interaction is not very interesting either because it's almost certainly going to be not on purpose.

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Rolestopper lets the town kill the joat if the joat is flat good at mafia.and getting docced.

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Make the neighborizer a combined neighborizer strongmanfinder? That's fun

Not a bad fix, though I think informed neighborizer (there is a mafia encryptor) is probably a more straightforward way to accomplish the same thing.

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See if that were the only error then I would have probably figured it out but rolestopper also stops kills so that still isn't correct

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Where is your sense of whimsy and love of magick

I think there's a lot of fun design to be done without deliberately deceiving the players, considering this is the queue to which people come to avoid curveballs.

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It doesn't really matter if it's roaming because once they think they can find scum they will roam anyway

However that might be false if I don't understand the interaction between roleblocks and roaming properly

If they try to target X and they are roleblocked, they're still forbidden from targeting X again.

Roaming doesn't seem necessary to me, and the role name is already quite long.

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It doesn't really matter if it's roaming because once they think they can find scum they will roam anyway

However that might be false if I don't understand the interaction between roleblocks and roaming properly

If they try to target X and they are roleblocked, they're still forbidden from targeting X again.

Roaming doesn't seem necessary to me, and the role name is already quite long.

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Why is the site like this

Why is that even a thing that can happen

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Another worry is that a doc save is pretty huge swing. It effectively clears the doc and the target, and it has a good chance to gain town an extra execution (if the JOAT got their vig shot out).

I'm wondering if removing the vig shot and adding a 2-shot commuter would make things even worse for town. It probably would, though I think it would cut down on swing significantly. I'm sure there are plenty of other ways to mitigate that swing.

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It would probably be better if there were another way to block a kill. Umlaut's 2-shot commuter isn't a terrible idea, or maybe just a 1-shot bulletproof. That way at least we can balance around the extra execution being likely instead of being uncertain.

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They're fine, as long as you make the mafia wincon public.