DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[Bingle]

I have come to save the day!

What's going on?

[Bingle]

I'm a radar, which I think means tracker.

[Bingle]

Bell and Ceph, but the role pm says that I can't get results on terrorist attacks or stealth bombers, so presumably there are two different factional actions? One sounds like the nightkill, so the other is probably a factional RB or something.

[Bingle]

Bell targeted VFP and Ceph targeted no one, btw. In that order.

[Bingle]

What just happened?

[Bingle]

Why did marry target me?

My best guess is that you're a player in this game and thus a valid target. If I'm wrong, please let me know ASAP.

Sam who claimed Air Base lived a nuke that they shouldn't have lived

Okay, and that makes them scummy because? Also what's an Air Base?

[Bingle]

Air Base makes them immune to non-nuclear actions.
But they lived a nuclear action and the fallout shelter is down and the battleship was on Bell.

I recognize that these are all words in the English language.

So... Ascetic claim lived through a kill attempt and all of the known protectives were elsewhere when it happened, post massclaim. Is that the gist of it?

[Bingle]

So... Full claims list?

[Bingle]

So... Full claims list?

Cephrir - Vig/Activated BP
innocentvillager - Covert Ops
Save the Dragons - Vig/Activated BP
Vaxkiller - Cop
Toogeloo - Doc
Bell - Rolecop
gorilla - Vig/Activated BP
JohnnyFarrar - Vig/Activated BP
DeasVail - Kill specific RB
The Church of Skitter (Alisae/Menalque) - Vig/Activated BP
Titus - Vig/Activated BP
joqiza - Hidden Vig
Bingle - Tracker

Relevant results?

I have a track on a claimed RC to scum, and I think skitter said something about Vax giving an inno on Ceph?

[Bingle]

And unless there's a better action someone can think of for Bingle, I'd even say that Bingle should check IV to ENSURE he does nothing, given that Bingle can't track the nightkill.

Only other option I see from the claims would be me claiming Vax's target before Vax to prove my role.

I don't see why IV would be able to sabotage someone and live through it unless someone is fakeclaiming, though, so I think proving myself might be more useful for the same reason as IV doesn't need to sabotage anyone.

[Bingle]

Roles are independent of alignment, so that wouldn't matter. Your slot is 99% town based on associatives with flipped scum, though.

Fair enough.

[Bingle]

HAMMER!

Aight.

VOTE: Sam

[Bingle]

I would like to make it clear that that hammer was a reprisal for all of the mispronunciations of Murrika, and if you had pronounced Murrika correctly you would never have been thrown off of that cliff.

[Bingle]

I had time setup spec over the night, although I didn't read anything subjective.

Joqiza fires first, I'd like 24 hours to think about some stuff before that happens. IV had no target. I'm a little rushed atm and I have other site stuff to take care of but I should have more time later.

[Bingle]

We have a two clear advantage at the moment. Vax and Cephrir "could" theoretically be scum mates (don't dwell on that now), but IV is almost certainly 100% confirmed town. Vax has to keep delivering, and we have quite a bit of padding here to work with, so long as no one nukes.

This is what I ended up on, btw. I think Bell kill was most likely an attempt to frame someone who could possibly be caught in a lie by Bell, but most roles are confirmable. If I'm still around tonight, I can confirm Vax has a targeting nonkilling role as well as that I'm tracker unless scum waste a kill on me or catch him in a lie.

tl;dr of Joqiza needs to be the first to target a nuke every day because he can obfuscate the nuke target he does, making it so he's a higher priority clear than literally anyone else in the game. We can't take an uncleared Nuke into XLO because if they're scum they can just end the day before with a kill/hammer combo and endgame. All of the nukes need to fire and abort at some point if they haven't confirmed their missile status already.

[Bingle]

Plan seems solid to me.

FUCK IT

NUKE BINGLE

Fuck you, Ali.

I replace in because Cakez asks me to, read all of the mech shit and ask a bunch of setup questions over night, get invested: and you take the first opportunity to yeet me? This is some Dannflor levels of betrayal.

[Bingle]

Spoiler:

[Bingle]

As soon to be conftown, I demand the right to pick the Nuke order.

Joq kills Toog.
STD kills DV.
Titus Kills STD.
Johnny Kills Joq.
Ceph Kills Titus.

Ceph should wait until after all of the other flips to submit just in case someone breaks the plan, but you owe me this much.

[Bingle]

blame IV
he caught my slip

Nah, your fault for being scum in the first place. Just like Dannflor chose to be drafted by Pine.

BETRAYED!

[Bingle]

I would take joq and std to the end but whatever

joq going to the end is a nonstarter as it needlessly adds complication to the solve and joq was the one who came up with it (meaning he's the one most at risk for having seen a way out). I'd change things to let you have your way with the Dragons, but everyone knows we kill the animals, not save them. Also, you get to live far longer than I do so I get to puppetmaster all the deaths.

[Bingle]

im scum and i concede

I bet all the bananas on an IV Vax team. What do I win now that they’ve conceded?

[Bingle]

I’d bet on Titus and joq town here, FWIW.

[Bingle]

I don’t think we have to wait on skitter flip but rather on skitter being unable to retract their rocket to start launching, btw.

As long as ceph launches last to ensure scum doesn’t try a whoops, I thought I was supposed to target someone else gambit we should be good.

[Bingle]

wait if u sui can Church retract nuke... ugh whatever lets just wait i out

I’m literally the only one who can’t sui here. We’re stuck waiting the 12 hours or so until skitts can’t retract and then we can launch.

[Bingle]

Vaxkiller when you get a chance, I want you to review your mod PMs and confirm for us again that you have clears on Cephrir and innocent villager. Not that I really doubt you, but I want to absolutely preclude any kind of slippery oopsies/takebacksies on the final day.

Ah shit. I misread my role PM. Turns out I'm masons with majiffy.

[Bingle]

I was clearly the most obvtown player this game. Scum even shot me I was so obvtown.



I also definitely did not read over night and was making shit up to hopefully trick people into locktowning me. Wish I coulda been here earlier, the game seemed pretty good from the like 5 pages I was here.

[Bingle]

Jesus, scum chat was amazing. Like, it make a great comedy movie amazing. Ali and Bingle hatching a plan 5 pages long in scum chat only to tie their shoelaces together, trip and fall, and hug each other as the nukes come closing in.

ali is a fucking treasure <3

+1

I was in this game for what, a week? And it was one of the most enjoyable scum games I've played in recent memory because Ali is a great buddy to have. Even in a situation that were basically screwed from the start in it was super fun and the stumble was more hilarious than anything else.

Do I wish we had managed to turn this around and murder some townies? Of course. But such is the fickle nature of mafia. She giveth, and she taketh away.

[Bingle]

You've got one up on me, I'm definitely a blabbering idiot who knows nothing.