Open 818: DayVig Deactivators! Mafia Win!

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Why would we random shoot though instead of shooting someone scummy

What if we voted on someone scummy and told them to shoot and if they don't we lim them

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Meh I was in too many games anyway

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How is it a 50% win if you shoot wrong, we still have to elim both scum in 3v2

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It's 50% to elim scum today if you're wrong and then 33% tomorrow right?

Also scum have a nightkill so if you hit the goon we no elim and it's 33%.

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Sure but there's a reason quickvoting doesn't actually increase your chance to win, sometimes quickhammers will happen or scum can bus to avoid associatives.

I think our best play now is to have you make the choice, I'll voice my opinion but town has to vote together.

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I knew it was ELo, it's still 50% to elim scum today and 33% tomorrow assuming we guess correctly.

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tih where are you

Cook and JV are scummy so far I think

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Flea in the future if you run a ~6 player game the prods need to be at most 36 hours if not 24

Yup, agreed.

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So?

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Lol

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Noraa we miss you

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If we no elim, scum kills a townie and immediately wins.

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Games this size should be played like marathons imo

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Hi mist are you scum

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Was 6 minutes after the game opened, it's not like it was a massive coincidence

You don't feel like cook's TR on jv was too easy?

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ehh im willing to flip the game on infinity being scum right now

What's stopping you from voting

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Fair enough

Honestly you feel pretty scummy to me too, that seems like a bit of a weak reason to want to risk the game.

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Sure but I feel like town tries to go through a sorting process more often especially since I've shown a willingness to at least be in the thread

Also you have a good point about JV being mad at t3

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Possible but I don't really need a great reason to SR you when rand is 2/3

Same applies to you I guess but /shrug

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i think you just dont like the fact that im scumreading you for something entirely unrelated to what you have posted

Do you feel like this is AI

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Ok

I think as scum if I intentionally let t3 vig someone I would've waited more than a minute to say that it was a bad idea

I wanna see what mist thinks

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Nervousness is the biggest motivator in my scumgames

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I mean no one else really cares about this game

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viewtopic.php?p=12697809#p12697809

This is kinda an interesting read if you wanna hear me talk to pooky about efforting/being nervous in scum games

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I only played a few games in 2013-14 when games felt like this, but even then there was much more content than here.There's something to be said for a relaxing game but this is past that point

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I want to elim cook

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Oka brought up a good point about JV being harsh on t3 which is less likely to make them scum I think. Would make oka scum but still.

There's no signs pointing to a cook/oka team though really. Oka did point out reasons to potentially scumread cook but still has me scummier but eh

Also I just realized oka as scum would probably just go after whichever of cook/JV is town since me and t3 would agree with that push so it's probably just you/cook still

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i honestly think inf perspective slipped with the "i agree with oka on JV" thing because like

i feel like she should have thought it through and realized that me town > oka scum and therefore oka's reasoning wasn't genuine

which isnt to say that scum cant have genuine reasoning but i think the way she walked it back was scummy

No, I realized it when I posted it, it just doesn't matter because I think the reasoning is good regardless of whether it's genuine

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mist trs oka
cook trs ???
oka trs mist
infinity trs mist

I'm on oka town atp

Cook TRed JV

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Sure but I feel like town tries to go through a sorting process more often especially since I've shown a willingness to at least be in the thread

Also you have a good point about JV being mad at t3

This post implies that oka having a good point about JV is one of the reasons I'm scumreading him

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ok so t3 is town
first thing i notice, infinity's post comes 1 minute after the dayvig. that could be just a really unlucky coincidence but with how little anything that has happened, i think i just have to mark it as +scum.

ehh im willing to flip the game on infinity being scum right now

This stuff implied that the JV read wasn't really a consideration for oka (in fact I think I'm weighting it more strongly than he is), instead it was that I was individually scummy for making the post 1 minute after the vig.

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Or, I assume it was a consideration, but it seems to be pretty weak for oka and he likely hadn't even thought of it when he posted that sequence.

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VOTE: cook not a scumhammer

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It's not a troll >.<

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I guess oka could be trolling but lol

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Cook you're allowed to give content

Still think cook is scum

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To be clear: I did not scumhammer

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I really wanna just vote

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Nooo it's mist

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Idk why I would ever vote you, still think it'd be silly for scum!you to push me as opposed to mist who both me and T3 scumread

Mist's tone is also off from when she's town and cook still had the bad TR on JV

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Was there a reason not to end the day or?

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That's just wine though

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VOTE: mistyx

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Sigh I forgot I was still in a game

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viewtopic.php?t=85375&f=23&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

I can't quote cause it's locked, I don't know if this contrast will make sense but

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I feel like reading this ISO it doesn't really fit with a mindset of come in, decide on a scumread, push it until I win

She could just be playing differently fypov but it seems unlikely

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Still not really sure why town!you would jump to a conclusion but ok

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i agree with infinity's logic on oka honestly

i honestly think inf perspective slipped with the "i agree with oka on JV" thing because like

i feel like she should have thought it through and realized that me town > oka scum and therefore oka's reasoning wasn't genuine

which isnt to say that scum cant have genuine reasoning but i think the way she walked it back was scummy

Also, this is...lol

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Not that much tbh

There was one other game where mist was scum and I was town, and one other where she was town and I was scum but she replaced in after I died.

I believe I've spectated one other game of hers

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I didn't, I was scumreading both of you but by the end of the day I had decided you were town

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Oka brought up a good point about JV being harsh on t3 which is less likely to make them scum I think. Would make oka scum but still.

There's no signs pointing to a cook/oka team though really. Oka did point out reasons to potentially scumread cook but still has me scummier but eh

Also I just realized oka as scum would probably just go after whichever of cook/JV is town since me and t3 would agree with that push so it's probably just you/cook still

mist trs oka
cook trs ???
oka trs mist
infinity trs mist

I'm on oka town atp

Cook TRed JV

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I feel like I made clear my preference for cook?

Which btw I probably wouldn't have done as scum since T3 scumread your slot as well

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Idk I'm bad at cases

I still think the scummiest thing mist did is not trying to sort. When I questioned you, you still seemed to be weighing both sides, despite me still being dissatisfied with how heavily you were weighting the 1 minute reasoning. Mist mostly just came up with reasons to scumread me, and notably not cook despite her scumreading us both. I feel like I've at least shown an attempt to figure out what's going on

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:(