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Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:35 am

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Hey all!

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Dats i naively sort of want to think that's a townie thing to do (after all would scum take the risk etc etc etc) except i sorta think that yes, you would take that risk as scum >.>

And would maybe do that purposefully as scum >.>
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Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:38 am

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Hi pooky!

Pedit i shall certainly keep that revelation in mind
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Post Post #21 (isolation #2) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:41 am

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In post 18, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 12, skitter30 wrote:(after all would scum take the risk etc etc etc)
what risk are you talking about?
Oh i just realized i'm thinking abt this backwards whoops
Scum want to leave >.>
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Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:46 am

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Ok i changed my mind r.e. dats' entrance, its scummier than i thought
@dats why'd you do it

Ok work later etc etc etc
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Post Post #33 (isolation #4) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:01 am

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I thought someone else could trust u and u/them would be removed in that instance
Didnt realize that wouldnt count per the rules
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Post Post #61 (isolation #5) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:11 am

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In post 34, Datisi wrote:ok

why is my intro scummy in this new context?
Initially i thought: oh self trusts are legal but scum wouldnt want to do that since then they's be out of the game (was thinking abt trusts like flips)

And then pooky pointed out that scum wanted to leave, so i thought it made it scummier because (if self-trusts are legal) than dats doing so would be making it that much likelier to happen, esp if anybody is in a meme-y mood.

Now that i know that self trusts arent legal, i think your entrance is basically nai

(Sorry for my brain being convoluted >.>)
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Post Post #67 (isolation #6) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:16 am

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I think ich and penguin are somewhat townie
I have gut scumpings on vulture
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Post Post #69 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:18 am

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Fwiw for u lot scum-me probably outargues a lot of people in an endgame scenario but otherwise i dont have very strong feelings abt this either way
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Post Post #80 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:27 am

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Idk if i can explain you/penguin yet, its more pings than anytjing else

Literally dont know if i can elaborate on penguin beyond 'good vibes'
For you, vulture, and pinged the wrong way
I like ich's posts at the bottom of p2 (esp and ), i like the tone/assertiveness/confidence
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Post Post #83 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:29 am

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Also dont really like t3
I dont really think ich is scum at this point, wouldng really want him in a trust pairing

Maybe t3 instead
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Post Post #85 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:29 am

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In post 82, T3 wrote:skitter is obvious town.
I will not trust fall skitter despite that.
Why
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Post Post #89 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:32 am

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In post 87, T3 wrote:
In post 85, skitter30 wrote:
In post 82, T3 wrote:skitter is obvious town.
I will not trust fall skitter despite that.
Why
I'm looking for a specific tell that (as far as I've seen) is rarely used but works.
No i want to know why you think i'm obvtown
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Post Post #91 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:36 am

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In post 88, Vulture wrote:Okay.

My question was twofold albeit somewhat silly, if not a question but a request more curt in “if you can” meant to goad in a very small way. I think there is merit to an idea that scum are setting themselves up to fight certain people earlier if they feel they can punch back and I was curious if you would do so.

That being said your pings don’t actually help me discern where your head’s at from the explanation but thank you all the same.
Yeah i thought ur tone was a little weird when u asked that

How do you think i would have 'punched back' to that sort of question ?

And sorry i'm not so good at explaining pings always ... if i can elaborate more i will!
But the penguin is p strong actually, i do feel p good abt him
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Post Post #103 (isolation #13) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:40 am

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In post 90, Datisi wrote:could you explain what you thought by "self-trusts being legal"? like, it requires two people for a fall, how did you think this would work?
I thought if someone else trusted you too it would work, no i'm not sure why that made sense to me, but that's what i was thinking

I am still a little suspicous of you though. Also why would scum-me make sure you dont get townread?

I think if t3 is scum there's scum in dats/ich.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:43 am

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In post 94, T3 wrote:There was almost "extra wording" that made this post towny to me. Like scum usually doesn't feel the ned to clariy naively or purposefully.
Meh not a good reason
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Post Post #111 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:45 am

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In post 98, Vulture wrote:I viewed it as a condescending/forceful way to request an explanation; I would have scumread a reaction where you pressed on me for being aggressive towards you if it was in the context of, “Vulture is being aggressive towards me because I outed gutpings on them.”

And that’s okay. I have those feelings at times but these ones specifically just don’t mesh with me. Maybe because I’ve tried to be a bit more confident/headstrong and it wasn’t it for me but was it for Ich. So the metric just isn’t working.
Oh i dont think u were aggresive enuf to trip that meter
Not gonna try to find ur alt or anything but have u played qith me before?

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If we're hero-solving s/s pairs i kinda like dats/t3
If we're looking for t/t pairs i dont know yet but ich and penguin would probably be up there
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Post Post #118 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:49 am

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In post 105, Datisi wrote:
In post 103, skitter30 wrote:I am still a little suspicous of you though. Also why would scum-me make sure you dont get townread?
why are you ~a little suspicious~ of me? and uh, because this game is about townies getting correct townreads, and town!me is kinda... good at getting townread?

what's the t3/dats/ich read?
You feel v concerned about how i'm reading u and i dont know why you would care so much at thia point (hey remember the (?) ? This is sort of tripping the same thing)

And you feel somewhat off and focusing on the wrong things
And idk if i like your vulture take

And i get why scum would undermune townreads in general but why would i start the game doing so *on you*?

Did you think your entrance would ger you townread?
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Post Post #159 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:00 pm

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In post 122, Datisi wrote:i'm not concerned about my own image, i'm concerned about yours. basically, you started off the game calling me scummy for my intro - which by itself made me suspicious of you because i didn't think you can get a scumread on me for that. but maybe you saw something i didn't, so i'm gonna ask you about it to try to figure out if you actually *saw something* or if your read was *made up bullshit*

like, i kinda feel it's disingenuous to compare this to the "(?)" when that was much deeper into the game (where i was townread, but you were also townread, and we were basically playing white flag, and god help me if town!skitter is about to turn on me), while this was like, literally page two (where most reads are pretty much blank slates)

what do you think town!me would be focusing on here?
and /shrug on the vulture take

and because again, i'm decently good at getting myself townread as town, and because you gotta start somewhere, and arguably my intro was the only one / the most weird enough to go after?
i mean, from my (admittedly wrong) pov do you understand why i found your entrance to be scummy at that point?

and i actually don't think it's disingenuous to compare this to the (?) at all, that was the one thing i correctly read you off of last time so why would i *not* pay attention to similar vibes this time?

and idk what town-you *would* be focusing on here so much as what you currently are feels wrong
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Post Post #161 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:05 pm

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In post 127, Datisi wrote:
In post 118, skitter30 wrote:And i get why scum would undermune townreads in general but why would i start the game doing so *on you*?
like ok uhhh this actually bothers me more than i initially thought. like this feels like some sorta bad-faith question, because the answer is obvious - i was one of the only people that posted so far, and arguably had the weirdest entrance.

but like, this is bothering me because it's implying that scum!skitter would need to have a ~super special reason~ to push exactly me, and i feel like it's also trying to undermine any read on me by implying that i'm wrong for implying that scum!skitter would have to have a ~super special reason~ to push exactly me when like, i never did that, i just said it generally

idk if i'm getting across what i'm thinking, but i feel like it's implying that i said there's a much bigger level of "planned push" into skitter's og scumlean on me, and then debunking that "planned push", when that was not something i ever actually said. i found her og scumlean "weird" first, and then i thought of "they give a vibe of not wanting me to get townread", but i didn't imply that was her Original Plan when scumleaning me

jesus fuck this is a word salad that is not getting out correctly
does anyone understand what i'm trying to say
In post 90, Datisi wrote:at first i thought skitter is scummy because her "scumpings" on me felt very much forced,
or like she's making sure i don't start getting townread
?

pedit literally nobody was townreading you at the time i said i was scumreading you so what townreads was i undermining ????
and i kinda feel ike you're trying to ascribe malicious intent that isn't really here?

like i'm not really trying to undermine anything so i can't really agree about which thought process i didn't have because i don't really feel like i did neither ...
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Post Post #164 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:11 pm

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don't really think ss/t3 does this as scum together

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dats would u trustfall me?
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Post Post #166 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:12 pm

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uh we can stop arguign abt this cuz it will probably go in circles but yeah i'm still suspicious of you
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Post Post #170 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:27 pm

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honestly i think that most of what you're accusing me of is kinda silly/nit-picky, no offense
but night dats we'l talk another time!
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Post Post #178 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:14 pm

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In post 171, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 164, skitter30 wrote:don't really think ss/t3 does this as scum together
From what I know about T3, I think it's plausible that he would do this without asking me.
meh not sure
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Post Post #199 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:54 pm

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still think t3/dats is a good hero pairing
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Post Post #202 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:56 pm

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In post 200, T3 wrote:Having a similar gut reaction or thought off the top of your head to another player.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:58 pm

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In post 200, T3 wrote:Having a similar gut reaction or thought off the top of your head to another player.
and if this was the tell what post prompted that
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Post Post #206 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:00 pm

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so if we think we found scum we can't just kill them, right? we need to keep them around and remove everyone else who is likely town?
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Post Post #208 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:04 pm

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In post 204, skitter30 wrote:
In post 200, T3 wrote:Having a similar gut reaction or thought off the top of your head to another player.
and if this was the tell what post prompted that
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Post Post #212 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:30 pm

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In post 210, T3 wrote:
In post 40, Something_Smart wrote:Srs read on Ich?
In post 140, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 109, Datisi wrote:arguing mech / semantics / setup strategy is a thing scum often does because it's posting and presence but it's actively stopping game progress.
How often does this tell actually work?
These on a reread.
The mindmeld thing tends to apply more in real time
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Post Post #217 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:37 pm

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Ig we can force t3 to trust different people and see what happens / if they take it ...

I feel like t3/dats would be interesfing but also like maybe a50 shouls do stuff before we force pairings i'm realizing
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Post Post #231 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:47 pm

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In post 229, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also if the scum team is actually SS/T3 I'm going to be laughing so hard
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Post Post #234 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:51 pm

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In post 232, PenguinPower wrote:You don’t think you would be laughing or you don’t think they are the scum team? Because the statement relies on them not being the scumteam.
Dont think they're the scumteam
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Post Post #236 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:53 pm

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And if there's any doubts i think we remove ss first and if he happens to flip scum we just do t3 next

Ss is always trusting here early on, no?
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Post Post #239 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:00 pm

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Sorry i meant flip everyone not t3 in the instance of ss flipping scum
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Post Post #243 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:01 pm

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I'm learning >.>
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Post Post #266 (isolation #35) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:53 am

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In post 245, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I've never seen skitter play dumb tho

she wouldn't do that
Ehhhhhhh i would lf i thought it would be beneficial
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Post Post #267 (isolation #36) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:54 am

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In post 253, Almost50 wrote:
In post 83, skitter30 wrote:Also dont really like t3
I dont really think ich is scum at this point, wouldng really want him in a trust pairing

Maybe t3 instead
I am not following. You do NOT think Ich is scum, but you do NOT want them to leave??
Was talking abt a hero svs pairing
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Post Post #280 (isolation #37) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:01 am

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I'm actually not as confident on town-ss as i was last night but since he's gonna be trusting first i'm not sure it functionally matters
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Post Post #284 (isolation #38) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:08 am

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Right - i think we can assume ss is probably town and have him trust early
Id he happens to be scum its with t3 and then the game is solved

So like while i'm not *confidenf* on town-ss liks he should be solved thru the natural course of the game

Pedit well if you're conftiwn we want to remove you, no?
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Post Post #286 (isolation #39) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:11 am

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Well he's probably scum so i'm not sure i like that idea
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Post Post #289 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:19 am

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I would prefer that earlier rather than later to put the notion of you/t3 to rest

We're either moving towards our wincon or solved the game

Not sure why we'd want to delay honestly
I would trust u like now tbh
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Post Post #295 (isolation #41) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:44 am

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In post 290, T3 wrote:I'm town.
So skitter trusts SS and Umlaut trusts me?
Ss is def going before you, and you probably aren't getting trusted at all at this rate
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Post Post #306 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:33 am

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In post 301, Ich Troje wrote:
In post 217, skitter30 wrote:Ig we can force t3 to trust different people and see what happens / if they take it ...

I feel like t3/dats would be interesfing but also like maybe a50 shouls do stuff before we force pairings i'm realizing
this post gives me massive scumpings. I dont know why it just vibes so wrongly with me.

Can you explain why you reached this conclusion here skitter?
Which part
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Post Post #307 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:34 am

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In post 296, T3 wrote:
In post 295, skitter30 wrote:
In post 290, T3 wrote:I'm town.
So skitter trusts SS and Umlaut trusts me?
Ss is def going before you, and you probably aren't getting trusted at all at this rate
How can I redem myself?
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Post Post #317 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:10 am

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In post 308, Ich Troje wrote:The part where you want T3 to randomly trust people, as well as the T3/Dats pairing.
I dont believe i said he should randomly trust people

I was sort of thinking that if he's scum and trusts a partner they wont take it

But now that i think abt it i dont know if a townie would take it either

Idk it made some amt of sense to me last night
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Post Post #319 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:13 am

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In post 316, Datisi wrote:i still don't get the idea behind this. like i get that scum wants a townie to trust them. but if you want to avoid that, then have an agreement to only have consensus townreads pair. i get it's fun and all to want to do a hero scum pair, but like. the most likely way that ends is with a free scum leave, because odds are you don't have the hero solve. (and right now you don't have it.)

hmm - what are the odds this is scum!s_s getting the trust of a townie, then galaxy brain not accepting it? he's still likely to leave the game early, but upon his redflip, t3 has a huge target on his back.

removing the tinfoil, i am getting scumpings from a50's posts. not sure why. very low confidence on it considering i blunder my read on him about always.
I was kinda thinking that if you're partnered with t3, you would want to avoid trusting him since you, like, literally cant

But like i said i'm not sure how to diffrentiate that universe with the universe where you're town and think t3 is scum ....

How *are* you reading t3 btw?
Is there anybody yoh would trust?

Dont think this is scum-ss/town-t3; i'm p sure scum-ss's instinctive reaction would have been to reciprocate
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Post Post #322 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:23 am

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I'm worried that u were going after town-t3 in mbos while handwaving away his behavior here when i think he's actively been scummier here
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Post Post #324 (isolation #47) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:29 am

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In post 320, Datisi wrote:i'm not, i have no clue how to read him
i can agree the stuff he's posted is scummy but i also know he's a Wacky Town Player so i won't even pretend to know what i'm talking about
Ig i'm having a hard time understanding why you arent just going: yeah he's scummy i think he's scum
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Post Post #326 (isolation #48) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:36 am

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I mean ok, what is town-him doing here?
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Post Post #328 (isolation #49) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:42 am

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Because he did scummy things, which you acknowledge, but are refusing to call him scum, as i'm already suspicious of you/him
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*and i'm already suspicious of you/him
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Post Post #331 (isolation #51) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:58 am

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Uh yeah i'm kinda worried you're trying to walk that exact line
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Post Post #333 (isolation #52) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:10 pm

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I'm sad that i dont have to vote >.>
Dats uh yeah i think this whole exchange from u is scummy

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Post Post #335 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:17 pm

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If he's town we want him to leave, right? Am i still missing something abt the setup?

We dont want scum to leave
Therefore we want town to leave
Ss is town or scum with t3

It seems someejat obvious to me that ss/consensus townread should be the first pair unless we want to go for the hero solve?
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Post Post #339 (isolation #54) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:48 am

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Penguin: having Good Town Vibes from him
Ss: either conftown or scum with t3

A50, ich, vulture, pooky i have townvibes to some degree or another but not enuf that i would trust them rn
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Post Post #351 (isolation #55) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:56 am

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In post 348, Ich Troje wrote:also im sick asf rn, brain not working too well.
Feel better!
In post 349, Ich Troje wrote:I'm not seeing why people are townreading PP here because it doesn't feel like they've really reached out of either their town or scumrange here. While I *do* see traits I've seen from town PP before I don't think they should be first choice yeeted here because thus far I don't see any real complexity coming from the slot.
I sometimes just get Good Town Vibes from him, and those are the sort od vibes i'm getting rn
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Post Post #352 (isolation #56) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:57 am

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I think he cares more than he would as scum
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Post Post #355 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:26 am

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In post 353, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:skitter has never mis-read pengy in her life

her streak of correctly townreading him is at like 29 games in a row.
I just misread him, actually, but other than that!
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Post Post #357 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:28 am

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Also i feel like we're kinda stuck and idk how to move things along

Pedit meh idk if that's true
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Post Post #358 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:29 am

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Also not sure why ss os kinda hesitant to be one of the first pairs to leave
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Post Post #360 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:32 am

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Ok so lets start working on that
I nominate dats/t3 as being never trusted, idk who the others should be
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Post Post #364 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:59 am

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In post 289, skitter30 wrote:Not sure why we'd want to delay honestly
I would trust u like now tbh
Maybe i should havr phrased this more as a question
But ok is there anybody you would trust now?
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Post Post #372 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:45 am

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Meh i think that effectively clears ss
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Post Post #375 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:20 am

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If ss is scum with town-t3 he takes the trust, no reason not to
If he's scum with t3 he cant, so there was a lingering question of if ss/t3 was possible

But in that universe he would take thr trust with you

But he didnt

So that effectively means he's either scum with both of u (impossible), scum who isnt taking the trust (and thus damaging his own wincon), or just town
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Post Post #386 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:38 am

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In post 382, Umlaut wrote:As I said and Datisi also said, in the universe with the {S_S, T3} scumteam it would basically be throwing for him to instantly trust me back because it all but confirms T3 is scum; even if we weren't sure no one would ever pair with him.
Goos point i didnt think of that
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Post Post #387 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:39 am

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In post 383, Datisi wrote:also while i was on a walk i kind of started talking myself into scum!skitt again

@skitt, you called me out in mbos for "(?)" but you didn't call me out in c9++ for drilling the ic slot about their reads on me. ik you were town both times, but could you tell me what's the difference between the two, and why this game makes you think of me from mbos?
Uh mostly because i dont remember offhand how you were treating the ic slot in that game
And i have a recent example lf scum-you doing it to me like last week

Would like to hear more abt why u think i'm scum again
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Post Post #393 (isolation #66) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:14 am

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I mean do u think i ought to be townreading u?
Otherwise not sure why u think i should know better

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Post Post #396 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:26 pm

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b/c i don't totally understand what your concerns are or why you think my stances are implausible
and you seem to think 'i should know better here', which to me implies that you think i shouldn't be scumreading you for the reasons i am, but it also doesn't seem like you think i should be townreading you so what sort of stance am i supposed to have on you here
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Post Post #397 (isolation #68) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:29 pm

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like unless you think i ought to be townreading you here i'm not sure how me being suspicious of you is a problem
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Post Post #399 (isolation #69) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:02 pm

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i'm p sure that if my read on you was 'null' you'd be unsatisfied as well, no?

~
and in response to all of that i feel like you're kinda misunderstanding/misattributing thoughts to me, possibly on purpose
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Post Post #401 (isolation #70) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:20 pm

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In post 398, Datisi wrote:like "null" is a category that exist and that i'm pretty sure you've heard of? so i don't get why you're saying that "if you don't think i should be townreading you here then what's the problem with me scumreading you" as if those are the only two ways you can read a post and as if laws of the universe say that you *have* to have one of those reads on someone
?
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Post Post #405 (isolation #71) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:32 pm

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ok sure i can understand your objection in the first paragraph. i disagree that the natural conclusion is that i ought to be null-reading you, which is what you seem to be implying you expect of me here instead

i think we're going around in circles tho, we don't really have to quibble semantics
i still find your read on me unsatisfactory, and you believe i may or may not be making up reasons to scumread you basically is where we're at i think
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Post Post #412 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:50 pm

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In post 407, Datisi wrote:i don't think you "ought" to be nullreading me, i just think you cannot be calling me out for finding scumreads on myself problematic on the grounds of
"well you said you weren't being townie"


like if you had a super strong scumread on me but if was backed by reasons i found satisfactory, i wouldn't have a problem with you here

i agree we're arguing semantics but the problem is that my suspicion on you is very semantics-based ._.
dats do u really want to continue quibbling semantics because from my pov you're twisting a lot of things that i said in this first paragraph and if you want me to break it down i can but i feel like we're going around in circles

also i tried to sort of articulate how exactly i take issue with the bolded above but it starts to become a very confusing he said she said sort of situation and i'm not sure how to make it clearer and i'm not sure quibbling about it is going to do anything either
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so like i can try to break it down and explain ti but i don't know how well i will be able to and i'm not sure doing so will accomplish anything either
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Post Post #415 (isolation #74) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:51 pm

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In post 414, Vulture wrote:This game is going to have a stupid team like Skitter/Pooky
that would be fun
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Post Post #418 (isolation #75) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:53 pm

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In post 416, Vulture wrote:Perhaps some of that is that, it feels opportunistic to back down from the "argument" here that they're having (from Skitter's side) when there is a bit of questioning on her now. I think in an ideal world though I should play safe and say we don't let either of Skitter/Datisi pair because it feels like the sort of fight where it's T/S but I'm not sure enough on my townread to go "yes pair please."
i just don't see the point
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Post Post #420 (isolation #76) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:54 pm

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In post 407, Datisi wrote:"well you said you weren't being townie"
In post 397, skitter30 wrote:like unless you think i ought to be townreading you here i'm not sure how me being suspicious of you is a problem
these are not at all the same thing ?
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Post Post #422 (isolation #77) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:57 pm

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In post 419, Vulture wrote:Of what point? There's two in there.
the semantics is kinda getting very mired and confusing and i'm not sure what the point is of arguing it since:
- this isn't helping me read dats better (if anything it's making me more suspicious of him)
- this does not appear to be helping dats read me better
- i'm p sure nobody else wants to read this
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Post Post #427 (isolation #78) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:04 pm

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In post 393, skitter30 wrote:I mean do u think i ought to be townreading u?
Otherwise not sure why u think i should know better

@dats
In post 395, Datisi wrote:? i was playing a game

skitter should know better because... she's skitter? and has played with me enough and the reasons why she calls me scum are making me hmm

like i don't necessarily think you should be townreading me here (i'm always obvtown to myself so cannot give an accurate assessment there) but i don't think you should have a scumread on me for what you have and i'm trying to parse if it makes enough sense for town!you to have it and i feel like my opinion about it changes every time i look at this game

why are you turning the question into "should i be townreading you?"
i questioned if you thought i should be townreading you before you said (agreed!) you weren't being townie

so i'm sort of baffled how you're using the fact that you agreed you aren't objectively being townie as a reason my question doesn't make sense since it happened after
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Post Post #428 (isolation #79) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:07 pm

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In post 423, Vulture wrote:...you have a point, I didn't really want to read 17 pages worth of it, but it is useful for sorting you two.

How is it not helping you read him better if you're erring towards an alignment-read on him?
no i mean more that this whole back-and-forth is makign me more suspicious of him and i'm not sure how much of it is because i'm tunneled/annoyed

like i feel like he's deliberately misunderstanding me but it's possibl ei'm tunneled which is why i think that
but this argument isn't going to help me break out of being tunneled
which is why on my end i don't think this is helpful
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Post Post #429 (isolation #80) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:09 pm

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like if anything i'm p sure that continuing this argument i'm going to get more and more and more suspicious of dats
if i'm wrongly reading him as scum this argument is not going to help me read him correctly

so i want to end it and move on because otherwise i'm just going to get stuck here
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Post Post #431 (isolation #81) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:13 pm

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ok so let's just agree that we have a massive amt of miscommunication happening here at best and move on
and i will try to reassess if this is the only reason i find you scummy and/or if other things are prompting it
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Post Post #433 (isolation #82) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:10 pm

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i care more abt not clogging up the thread than having a semantics-based argument that i'm p sure won't help either of us actually read the other
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Post Post #437 (isolation #83) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:02 pm

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Ig i sort of think we want to remove people we think are Not Scum and ss is probablu our best bet
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Post Post #444 (isolation #84) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:34 pm

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In post 442, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 426, PenguinPower wrote:Only for you two and it would break my heart.
she's being sarcastic

every time i've rolled scum with her we've lost in epic fashion haha

also I'm your mason buddy you can't doubt me
I mean it was still fun!
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Post Post #466 (isolation #85) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:38 am

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I dont really have anythibg new to add before the flips happen, i think they're both probably town
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Post Post #471 (isolation #86) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:08 am

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In post 468, Ich Troje wrote:where's mod to flip this
Differwnr timezone, flip probably wont be for several hours i guess. We can try pm'ing nomnom i suppose to see if they'll do it faster
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Post Post #476 (isolation #87) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:40 am

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In post 466, skitter30 wrote:I dont really have anythibg new to add before the flips happen, i think they're both probably town
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Post Post #485 (isolation #88) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:57 pm

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In post 482, Datisi wrote:- skitter i now kind of think is +town that she decided to drop the fight rather then keep at it? like scum!skitter could definitely hold her weight there, it would easily clog up the thread, and i'm p sure she'd be smart enough to know that people would call her out for it.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #89) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:58 pm

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Why is a50 an active scumread?
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Post Post #488 (isolation #90) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:19 pm

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It means that i kinda think ur read on me is nonsense (no offense)
Like your points are True and Fine but i kinda dislike how you keep going back and forth and that paragraph just doesn't feel super real ro me idk

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The posts u quoted abt a50 dont really bother me, and while i dont necessarily agree with his reads i feel like he sort of believes what he was saying. I also liked his post where he delineated his plan for hiw to solve the game, and i thought his annoyance that nobody responded was +town
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Post Post #489 (isolation #91) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:20 pm

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Oh i'm talking abt and followups which you distinctlycited aa scumreading >.>
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Post Post #491 (isolation #92) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:33 pm

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Oh also i forgot to say that i kinda dislike all of ur reads as enumerated in the above post
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Is there anything i xan do to help u form a read on me?

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Wrt a50 i think making up convoluted plans is sort of his bread and butter as both alignments, but i think he cares more that nobody elss cares as town

I did just badly misread scum-him tho so maybe i'm just out of practice but that's what i think
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Post Post #493 (isolation #93) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:47 pm

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Most feel very flimsy
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Post Post #497 (isolation #94) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:42 pm

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Nice, 1/3 of the way there
I would feel p good abt putting penguin in the next pair
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Post Post #507 (isolation #95) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:01 pm

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In post 501, PenguinPower wrote:Someone help me understand why vulture is towny.
I had some glimmer of townpings the first day irl but basically nai since then
He's somewhere around null for me rn
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Post Post #508 (isolation #96) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 503, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
Am I doing a good job modding? This is my first time. Let me know what I can do to improve some things.
You're doing great!
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Post Post #511 (isolation #97) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:03 pm

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I dont particularly want vulture to leave
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Post Post #529 (isolation #98) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 518, Almost50 wrote:If it makes you feel better I could leave with Vulture
I'm not sure i like this pairing

I see ur a bit annoyed and i hope asking this doesnf annoy you further but can you explain a bit more abt the vulture read?
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Post Post #531 (isolation #99) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:22 pm

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I dont believe vulture gave any sort of townread on a50 prior to a50 townreading him
Developing that read after a50 declared tue townread is a bit meh
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Post Post #539 (isolation #100) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:31 pm

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In post 534, Vulture wrote:I don't see the motivation for scum!A50 to townread me, really. And to push for me to leave over himself.

I get the concept is "you only need one townie to trust mafia" but me saying I'd leave with him isn't saying I'm going to do with it. Just that, if people arranged it, I wouldn't protest it.
i mean i'm not saying you're necessarily about to pair up but uh yeah the timing is a bit suspect and looks somewhat scummy
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Post Post #547 (isolation #101) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:34 pm

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for the pairing to go through scum-you needs to at least do lip-service to the notion of townreading him?

you didn't have a read before on him i think, you can't just go 'trust a50' upon him saying he would pair with you when you don't have an established read on him without that looking incredibly suspicious
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Post Post #548 (isolation #102) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:35 pm

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In post 544, Ich Troje wrote:skitter, consider that I have expressed a willingness to pair with vulture and the easy way for them would be to just follow me along(since they do not know my meta here as my identity isn't quite public within this game afaik)
ok that's a fair point actually
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Post Post #552 (isolation #103) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:38 pm

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In post 506, Vulture wrote:This game currently feels like it's a bit brainless for me personally. I dunno how to feel about Ich wanting to leave with me though and it's like, I could go either way on their alignment.
meh this is like the closest thing he has to a read on you and i don't think he could have tried to go for an ich/vulture pairing yesterday what with the t3/ss thing lingering

idk i don't think this point is quite so strong @ich as you/him weren't going to be a viable pairing yesterday
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Post Post #558 (isolation #104) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:39 pm

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In post 549, Almost50 wrote:Once pretty sure I was Town, now trying to appeal to people in the PoE (except I declared Vulture to be my top TR way early into D1 that I didn't even know who ws leaving and who would be included in said PoE). Ya feel?
thanks i appreciate your explanation
against the bit that i don't understand is that i think he still townreads you in the second quote, he's just saying that *other peopel* poe read you and is thus assessing the gamestate from there
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Post Post #560 (isolation #105) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:42 pm

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In post 551, Vulture wrote:
In post 547, skitter30 wrote:for the pairing to go through scum-you needs to at least do lip-service to the notion of townreading him?

you didn't have a read before on him i think, you can't just go 'trust a50' upon him saying he would pair with you when you don't have an established read on him without that looking incredibly suspicious
I didn't have one verbalized but it was summarized as "his entrance was a bit towny." Which, as it's after the fact, take with a grain of salt if you want.

If he asked (which to be honest I think he would if he got PP/you or something to go through) I could probably do the bare minimum given his effort in expressing the read in depth and then boom, I'm out. It just feels, to me, that there are a myriad of other ways to do 'lip-service' that I'd care for were I scum.
i am afraid i am going to have to take that read with a grain of salt
i'm not sure what the difference is between 'doing the bare minimum given his effort in expressing the read in depth' and how you explained your townread on him 2 pages ago
like from my pov you kinda did exactly what you're saying scum-you would do to take that pairing?
like yeah he didn't ask yet but he's indicating he's willing to?
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Post Post #561 (isolation #106) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:43 pm

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In post 556, Almost50 wrote:@skitter: I am a bit confused. Are distrusting me, Vulture, or both?
i'm distrusting vulture
i'm townreading-ish you. there's some people i would want to leave before you
but i definitely don't scumread you
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Post Post #566 (isolation #107) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:47 pm

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In post 530, Ich Troje wrote:a50 lowkey rushing to pair with a person who townreads them but trying to not seem as though they are, how quaint.
@a50 are you talking abt this post? otherwise i'm not sure what you're referring to
this read is baseless (vulture wasn't townreading you) and i'm not even sure it implies a scumread on you

pedit nm apparently it does
i don't find this progression to be scummy tho, and i'm not sure i understand why you do
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Post Post #570 (isolation #108) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:50 pm

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In post 563, Vulture wrote:To me, the difference is "I slip it in at a time when people are less likely to question it" over "Oh, I like this, let me ring it out." Perhaps the miscommunication is that I do bare minimum as subtle and my expression of read earlier as not, which isn't bare minimum.

He is willing to but I'm equally unwilling to do so unless people are fine with it. Which again, grain of salt, but my individual want doesn't seem as important as everyone chiming in.
ok thanks, i appreciate the explanation and i see what you mean
i guess i'm still dubious that scum wouldn't reciprocate a read when all they need to do is get the one townie to trust them and he was p willing to
like i get that you're saying you'd be more subtle but idk scum don't always play perfectly and i think that while it would have been *ideal* to be more subtle as scum i think the natural reaction as scum there is sort of exactly what you did
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Post Post #576 (isolation #109) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:52 pm

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In post 565, Almost50 wrote:Would you be upset if I trusted Vulture and left now regardless of the flips? Or would you only be upset if it turns out one of us is red??
i would be unhappy if one of you were red, for sure
if you both flip green i don't think i would be unhappy in the end but i think i really, really, really wouldn't like the uneasy twilight until the flips got resolved

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Post Post #579 (isolation #110) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:53 pm

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In post 574, Almost50 wrote:@skitts: Sorry, but I am overly frustrated right now. (It won't be hard for you to find out why if you wanted to)
i'm sorry that you're frustrated >.>
im not sure this is the best thing to do tho
pedit well post again to show that you acknowledge the trust
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Post Post #584 (isolation #111) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:55 pm

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>.>
alrighty then, i think that resolves my end of this conflict @vulture
i think ich's trust is also kinda townie
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Post Post #587 (isolation #112) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:59 pm

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i still like my dats/t3 here solve >.>
i don't have as strong a townread on pooky as i wouuld like

i think that's probably clearing for vulture in the same way it was clearing for ss
penguin i still have Good Vibes on
ich's trust is townie
i still kinda townread a50 but probably the least in ich/vulture/a50 but like i'm not really considering him scum
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Post Post #588 (isolation #113) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:01 pm

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In post 585, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 584, skitter30 wrote:i think ich's trust is also kinda townie
Why?
at first i was thinking that snap reaction 'eh i think there's scum in you two' doesn't feel like something scum would think in the moment

as i mull over it more tho i'm actually less sure: if ich is scum and wanted to leave on a vulture pairing he probably sort of needs to interject there in order to preempt a50/vulture

but all-in-all gun-to-head it feels like a townie reaction to em
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Post Post #589 (isolation #114) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:01 pm

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i also think it's fairly clear that a50/ich aren't scum together
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Post Post #592 (isolation #115) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:03 pm

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we just need to get to final 4 (2 town 2 scum) to win if ther are no scumflips, right?
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Post Post #595 (isolation #116) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:05 pm

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ok i want like dats/t3/pooky / one of {ich/a50} (unsure) to be those 4 i think
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Post Post #598 (isolation #117) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:09 pm

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i don't think he's going to take either prior to consensus at this point (?)

i think penguin/vulture is actully somewhat reasonable
(except i selfishly kinda want one of the two since i'm not sure what the next pairing would be to produce that final 4 ... >.>)
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Post Post #602 (isolation #118) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:12 pm

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man mulch was certainly memorable ...

~
@a50 why are you townreading me again?
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Post Post #604 (isolation #119) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:14 pm

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In post 599, Almost50 wrote:
UNTRUST: Vulture
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Post Post #614 (isolation #120) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:23 pm

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ok
pedit night!
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Post Post #620 (isolation #121) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:56 pm

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pooky i think you're still in my poe pool >.>
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Post Post #624 (isolation #122) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:59 pm

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In post 623, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i can prove im town if you trust me a50

i wont accept becuz i dont trust you
uh don't do this

and i am town this game @a50 :good:
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Post Post #644 (isolation #123) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:04 am

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Ahhhhhhhhhh for being in quasi elo >.>
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Post Post #646 (isolation #124) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:42 am

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T3/dats + 2 of {pooky, ich, a50}
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Post Post #647 (isolation #125) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:42 am

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Ugh ok i basically need to find 1 townread in 3townies + 2scum
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Post Post #654 (isolation #126) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:06 am

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Nice! 2 down, 1 to go
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Post Post #658 (isolation #127) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:19 am

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In post 655, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'd like to trust skitter but its unlikely she trusts me >.>
>.>
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Post Post #661 (isolation #128) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:55 am

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I hate having to make decisions >.>
Gun-to-head i probably want to with a50
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Post Post #665 (isolation #129) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:23 am

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Ahhhhhhhhhhh
I'm gonna be very limited access on sunday and Monday and i dont want to make people wait for me so i feel like i need to make a decision by this afternoon lol
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Post Post #666 (isolation #130) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:23 am

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I'm kinda leaning towards a50 and if he happens to be scum pooky/icu being the next pair
But that sort of depends on my p3 hero solve being right >.>
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Post Post #668 (isolation #131) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:59 am

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Uh i think that's a bad idea
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Post Post #670 (isolation #132) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:02 am

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Ig if a50 flips scum i will reassess but i dont think him flipping scum vastly changes my opinion on who the bulk of the last 4 should be
Ig we'll see what happens if we get to that point tho ...
I kinda think this is scum-t3 and that he'll take it when he's next online so
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Post Post #672 (isolation #133) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:25 am

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Oh wait i just realized i can try to preempt that if i can get another pairing before t3 gets to it ...
Idk who's online tho
Or who i would trust
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Post Post #691 (isolation #134) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:56 am

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I mean if he's scum what *can* he do here anyways?
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Post Post #698 (isolation #135) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:00 am

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In post 693, Ich Troje wrote:actually make plays?
as town, he has a leeway of 2 "poe" slots, and town has gotten 2 back to back town trusts, so I understand why they might not feel so inclined to try when town is just winning anyways.
He's not getting into a pair so what is he meant to do exactly
This reasoning feels somewhat dubious to me

Pedit in this case not necessarily giving up so much as he doeant have a lot of room to maneuver
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Post Post #700 (isolation #136) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:01 am

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Me?
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Post Post #708 (isolation #137) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:19 am

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In post 704, Ich Troje wrote:
trust:skitter


leaving this, we can discuss rest of day since we have time.

if skitter were to flip scum tho - trust me on my t3 read.
I probably dont want to take this >.>
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Post Post #713 (isolation #138) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:29 am

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trust: a50


Of the remainder i townread pooky the most
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Post Post #721 (isolation #139) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:33 am

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In post 714, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 713, skitter30 wrote:
trust: a50


Of the remainder i townread pooky the most
<3

this feels warm and fuzzy thank you ^,^
:)
You're honestly probably town but i all-in-all feel a little more confident on a50

And uh at that point idk i was sort of assuming that wouldnt be problem >.>

Dats/t3 have been my scumpool all game
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Post Post #722 (isolation #140) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:34 am

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*that wouldnt be my problem
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Post Post #724 (isolation #141) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:36 am

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I dont townread ich per se but if a50 is scum i dont think ich is partnered with him after their little spat last night so ich would be my pick for town in that universe
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Post Post #727 (isolation #142) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:40 am

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Me or a50
And fwiw that's what i feel abt t3
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Post Post #734 (isolation #143) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:44 am

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In post 729, Ich Troje wrote:why would i trust some1 who is in the bottom of my poe lmfao
Brain fart i somehow managef to forget that had happened on the prior page >.>
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Post Post #747 (isolation #144) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:48 am

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In post 738, Ich Troje wrote:man a 4 way with me/t3/pooky/dats sounds so bad..skitter please LOL
I mean this is why i wanna get out of here first
But from everyone else's pov ur an unlikely a50 partner so if he flips scum you sort of rise in the pecking order imo
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Post Post #749 (isolation #145) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:49 am

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In post 741, Ich Troje wrote:well pooky you see you need 2 consenting parties in this setup to get anywhere, just because 1 person has the answer doesnt mean they can just force it through, the other person has to accept too.
He'll accept regardless of his alignment
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Post Post #751 (isolation #146) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:49 am

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In post 742, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you sure it's not because you are in a scum pt with them and they introduced themselves?
I think this is unlikely
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Post Post #756 (isolation #147) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:53 am

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In post 753, Ich Troje wrote:
In post 750, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:how would it be suffering?
bc trying to figure out which of yalls is a50's scumbud will require thinking.
i'm going to lean t3 there very strongly
but obviously my paranoia is much greater there.just a nagging voice being like "but what if t3 did a funny scum play and you fell for it again"

simply winning by trusting town today will be much easier on my soul
Y tho
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Post Post #759 (isolation #148) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:55 am

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He was jusf ur biggest townread, ehat changes upon an a50 scumflip
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Post Post #765 (isolation #149) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:58 am

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Oh ok i misread that sorry
Pedit i said i think he's scum and u should pair with pooky
If u pair with t3 at that point that's not my problem

Also t3 didn't appear to be online while the trust was open so idk why we're giving him any points at all, we dont know what would have happened if he had been here
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Post Post #771 (isolation #150) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:03 am

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Lol ok
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Post Post #778 (isolation #151) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:13 am

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I mean i think you/t3 is a bad idea, what am i supposed to say
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Post Post #781 (isolation #152) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:50 am

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Ahhhhhhhhh ok
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Post Post #785 (isolation #153) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:55 am

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Dats/ich? Idk
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Post Post #791 (isolation #154) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:59 am

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Can t3 be scum with ich? Just to check
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Post Post #794 (isolation #155) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:03 am

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Nice
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Post Post #806 (isolation #156) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:19 am

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limited access until Tuesday
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Post Post #826 (isolation #157) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:29 am

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In post 808, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:have a good weekend skitts! <3
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Post Post #831 (isolation #158) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:14 pm

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In post 825, humaneatingmonkey wrote:skitter30 Trusts: Almost50
If it helps
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Post Post #832 (isolation #159) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:15 pm

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R u town?
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Post Post #841 (isolation #160) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:31 pm

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I think (?) we got this
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Post Post #844 (isolation #161) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:47 pm

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Oh dont worry i 100% play on that as scum
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Post Post #845 (isolation #162) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:48 pm

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I probably base thw whole game around that happening honestly
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Post Post #878 (isolation #163) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:54 pm

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Gg everyone, thanks hem for modding!

I feel like this setup is perhaps more suited for marathons or blitz deadlines

Also sorry dats <3
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