Mini 2237: Scarlet Witch Alternate Reality Mafia - Game Over

[Shrek]

this is scarlet witch alternate reality mafea

VOTE: roden

hi bb

[Shrek]

can i pocket you pwease bb

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hey beter

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

who tf is clodpole

[Shrek]

For the record he's right more often than not.

That's because town are the majority

Good one, Sparky.

who is sparky

[Shrek]

For the record he's right more often than not.

That's because town are the majority

Good one, Sparky.

who is sparky

Your mum

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Shrek]

VOTE: t3 I think t3 is scum here he's already making excuse to scum read people but enchant could also be scum. Hoping for a flash elemation.

whats the excuse to scum read people and why do you disagree

[Shrek]

ok explain your read on mega then

[Shrek]

i feel like mistina's reads are to bait out scums poor reactions to it tbh, not actually serious

[Shrek]

i feel like mistina's reads are to bait out scums poor reactions to it tbh, not actually serious

Every game I play with her she does these reads as scum or town basically it's just where she feels people are at so far I'm pretty sure it's nai regardless. But that doesn't mean I dislike it.

didnt you just say you disliked the reads so early though???

[Shrek]

@shrek besides me who do you dislike in the game so far.

i dont dislike you in the game lol. so far im a little wary of galron for not really contributing anything at the moment, but biggest suspicion would have to be roden atm because he feels way too defensive of gut reads which is giving me big scumvibes. if mastina always does what youre saying then i wanna see how she follows up on it

[Shrek]

i also really like guillotina and potentially cheeky for town. neutral on enchant and t3 atm

[Shrek]

It's easy to make a reads list page 1 when you're scum.

Falling for Mastina's trap.

VOTE: Mastina

Target's Mastina and recognizes her as a threat.

Mastina third party?

Scum tell. Hunting for 3Ps already. Wowee.

T3 are you not town

T3 could be their partner, this looks like distancing.

That does nothing to convince me you're making actual reads lol

Calling out Mastina's legitimacy of her reads when it's obvious the list is a RT.

I'm so good at catching wolves when trying to blend in.

Thank you Mastina!

this thinganalyzing roden’s posts and whatnot. obviously youre not locktown but i like where your head is at

[Shrek]

why do you dislike wall posts?????

[Shrek]

Also I would hammer mistina if they reach e1 nm but be quicker then me . I hate wall post. And throwing out reads on page 1 is just disgusting.

i feel like mistina's reads are to bait out scums poor reactions to it tbh, not actually serious

Every game I play with her she does these reads as scum or town basically it's just where she feels people are at so far I'm pretty sure it's nai regardless. But that doesn't mean I don't dislike it.

So in the first post you say you'd quickhammer Mastina for wallposting and because throwing reads on page 1 is disgusting.
But in the second post you said it's NAI for her.

This reads to me as someone not willing to compromise on their read on Mastina to avoid heat, ending up getting heat anyway because of the contradicting nature of those statements.

That's a scum slip in my opinion, only trumped by Cheeky contradiction of hating Mastina's content and then townreading me when im using Mastina's content to read people off of them.

I would Yeet Roden then Cheeky then you, in that specific order.

that was becuse I didn't have a strong standing point I was trying to duplicate my town game note duplicate town game meaning that's just how I act.

is this a scumslip??

[Shrek]

i think he means 'when they are trying to blend in'

[Shrek]

That does nothing to convince me you're making actual reads lol

VOTE: Roden
From an objective standpoint what mastina is doing makes no sense. The way you're gunning for mastina feels like you want to get an ez mislim.

You've seen my scum games more than anyone else, you should know I don't push ez mis-elims D1, I save them for later lol. I just think Mastina is scum for giving reads on people who hadn't even posted yet. Feel free to meta dive me if you don't believe me.

Some one told me scum use self meta. Town use others meta. So you using self meta makes you look bad.

Nah, I do it all the time as town because my town meta is obvious. T3 also likes to meta dive so that's why I'm offering that to him.

i dont know your town meta

[Shrek]

if he knows your meta why would he meta dive you

[Shrek]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

why change your vote if youre sure rodens scum

[Shrek]

+1 to what t3 said about ego tbh

[Shrek]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

why change your vote if youre sure rodens scum

Same question for you. How long you have been playing mafia?
This is real, non-rethorical question.

this is my third game on site

[Shrek]

and my vote is still on roden

[Shrek]

VOTE: guillotina

discuss

[Shrek]

Shrek what's your read on T3?

townlean tbh

[Shrek]

tbh hiraki is right. literally half the game is just roden and guillotina arguing and nothing has stuck out to me as alignment indicative at all

[Shrek]

NM/Zyla/Enchant/mastina are the slots im interested in right now.
VOTE: Enchant

why n_m if you dont mind me asking

[Shrek]

> My reads are always serious!

bruh that is CAP

> I shouldn't elaborate but I genuinely think this is town.

i think you should elaborate actually

[Shrek]

i wonder if this is multiball or not. if only there were someone to mention it to me

[Shrek]

sorry, that was meant to be an endearing look, not a weird one. your hunting just makes me want to leap into your pocket forever and ever

[Shrek]

ouroboros pocket? sheeeeeeesh!!!

[Shrek]

mastina i appreciate your contributions but those reads are wack af do you really expect me to understand all that

[Shrek]

VOTE: mastina[/b]

answer my question and elaborate on your townread of galron

[Shrek]

VOTE: mastina

[Shrek]

@Roden; I'm a little confused, possibly because I missed watching the last few episodes, but why would Wanda and Vision not be the most likely scum team? Wanda's the one who started the anomaly, and unless I'm remembering things wrong, whenever her grip on the townspeople waivered, they were trying to get her to leave
(That said, since I know nothing about a witches' coven or why SWORD would be bad guys, I don't know know which the other scum group would be, I'm mostly just curious behind your reasoning)

cause theyre the protagonists of the show and also a sample scum pm was for the witches i think

[Shrek]

also a role to reveal an entire team would be busted af

[Shrek]

cause theyre the protagonists of the show and also a sample scum pm was for the witches i think

I mean, yes, they're the protagonists, but that doesn't mean they don't make sense as the scum team. If you were doing a Godfather themed game, wouldn't you want the - *googles the movie* - Corleone family to be a scum team? (I'm assuming the answer is yes, but I do not know anything about the Godfather)

no??? theyre the protagonists

[Shrek]

also this isnt a godfather themed game so your point is moot

[Shrek]

idk. it sounds like a really weird thing to fakeclaim especially unprompted. tbh i feel like roden might be right about t3's weird progression tho

[Shrek]

@not_mafia are you there watching waiting to pounce

[Shrek]

bruh

unvote that shit rn

[Shrek]

if you want to throw then sure keep voting yourself

[Shrek]

ty bb

[Shrek]

VOTE: t3

ill bite tbh

[Shrek]

I would have day vigged Roden after that self vote because that is a blatant manipulation action but then i remembered ive done it as town too, so i didnt pull the trigger.

is this a claim

[Shrek]

I would have day vigged Roden after that self vote because that is a blatant manipulation action but then i remembered ive done it as town too, so i didnt pull the trigger.

is this a claim

What do you think?

why do you think i asked

[Shrek]

dont do that guillo

[Shrek]

dont do that guillo

Why?

because i told you to

[Shrek]

you also shouldnt do that because im town

[Shrek]

tbh i dont even think your claim is real

[Shrek]

because roden is town

[Shrek]

its like mastina with galron you know? i just have a specific HUNCH that i cant share with people for REASONS!!!

[Shrek]

anyway guillotina wont shoot anyone because this is a fakeclaim

[Shrek]

If me and T3 don't die today it's just gonna get dragged on to tomorrow, and we'll learn nothing because a lurker most likely gets NK'd to avoid confirming or denying associatives.

This is fake. Scum priority is to kill threats, not WIFOM people.

VOTE: Roden

I retract my claim, im not a vig.

i understand where youre coming from but this is a legit strat roden and i did last game when we were scum together so i believe it

[Shrek]

also i knew it

oi guillo why backtrack on the claim now of all times? also why fakeclaim in the first place?

[Shrek]

what about the first part of my question? was it because you were pressured or what

[Shrek]

are you ok

[Shrek]

bruh

[Shrek]

at everything that just happened

[Shrek]

you dont get to say same

[Shrek]

so i'm not allowed to try and figure out the game?

youre not allowed to say bruh when the same townie you hard pushed gets elimmed

[Shrek]

then why did you say bruh

[Shrek]

no? i dont see how anyone can think roden is fakeclaiming tbh

[Shrek]

its such a niche and weird thing to claim youd think actual scum would do something easier tho

[Shrek]

i believe you

boo womp

[Shrek]

night phase be like

https://youtu.be/b4HT4QJnhmU

[Shrek]

mfw the married couple dies

sadge

[Shrek]

VOTE: cyrus

cyrus is never this confident in his reads and just generally goes on the defensive a lot. i think he tmied roden being town by staying off of his wagon imo

[Shrek]

cyrus basically was just yelling roden was town the whole time despite there being a few red flags around roden, and i dont really trust that cyrus could analyze what roden was doing (including fakeclaiming) well enough to really say he was town without being too informed. according to another game we were in he also said that he reads scum as people who self vote in hopes that others back off (which is what roden did here) and he still never really scumread him. there are definitely town on roden's wagon and i think he might be going after them in particular for now because theyre easy pickings

[Shrek]

i dont know how that proves it isnt tmi lol

[Shrek]

are we allowed to post links to meta stuff if the game has finished

and yes it does

[Shrek]

im saying you already knew rodens role and thats why you didnt scumread him

[Shrek]

idk what you mean by sloppy but that wasnt roden. you really havent provided any evidence for your case on roden being town beyond ‘i believed him claim’

[Shrek]

i love how everyone just says a random person and goes ‘this person is town but i cant say why!!!’

its happened 3 times so far breh

[Shrek]

VOTE: t3

[Shrek]

for rodennnn

[Shrek]

VOTE: zyla weak cases twice to try to push me I think town Zyla would have made a solid case.

what would town zylas case be?

[Shrek]

>meta

@cyrus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTRKCXC0JFg

[Shrek]

youre literally using outside info from other games to say that zyla is scum. thats meta

[Shrek]

hrmmm lets see

town:
cheeky
hiraki

townlean:
mega
zyla

neutral:
mastina
galron

scumlean:
enchant
n_m

scum:
t3
cyrus

[Shrek]

youre literally using outside info from other games to say that zyla is scum. thats meta

Doesn't meta requie me to post games from which I'm saying Zyla played diffent . I'm saying from what I'm used to seeing this isn't how town Zyla acts.

nope. meta is using outside information period i think

[Shrek]

if t3 and i were on a team idk if youd have anything to worry about lmao. wed be chaotic af

[Shrek]

also how was my opening town? plox tell me so i can replicate it again tomorrow to seem townie again

[Shrek]

bruh did cyrus just claim quicksilver?

[Shrek]

ok nvm the scumread then ig

[Shrek]

tbh why dont we look at galron? literally zero original thought, just poking at things from the outside from time to time. guillotina kill is also something i could expect from someone who's not invested in the game at all. only reason nobody is looking at him is because mastina has a "HUNCH" she never explained on him

[Shrek]

bruh

[Shrek]

why not galron?

[Shrek]

why not galron?

[Shrek]

im voting galron until someone gives me an actual reason as to why he isnt scum because im petty like that

VOTE: galron

[Shrek]

You guys are dumb bells.

enlighten me

[Shrek]

noice the wagon continues

[Shrek]

alright galron supporters he's effectively at e-1 with n_m in play so you should probably start talking

[Shrek]

You never kill mastina or me in this game.

[Shrek]

OHHH you shouldve said masons from the start

VOTE: t3

[Shrek]

I don't think claiming names really makes something, unless tipping on PR.

Like, every character can be brainwashed by witches.

uhhh is this setup tmi

[Shrek]

oh that makes more sense i missed it. my b

[Shrek]

quicksilver is pietro's superhero name

[Shrek]

Enchant likely town if T3 red imo. Fake associative when T3 feels he's going down.

You do realize it is multiball.

t3 where is the later elaboration on enchant

[Shrek]

I also want to say that I don't think this is N_M's town game. I am re-reading T3 to see if I can join but I still have super outstanding issues with a claim of Pietro Maximoff from a flavor perspective.

If you've got some intel on the difference between N_M's town and scum games, can you share?

oh yeah i noticed this too but basically when n_m is town he really likes poking at people and giving one sentence observations onto why things are bad. he's been a lot more passive this game which is saying something when his playstyle is pretty much already the most passive you can possibly get

[Shrek]

lets gooooooo

[Shrek]

and its chill guy is gender neutral anyway

[Shrek]

enchant IS doing zero scumhunting tbh

[Shrek]

also that is meta

[Shrek]

@zyla who do you think is scum besides cyrus? so far all youve done is pick on him

[Shrek]

I feel like scumcyrus would just latch onto saying 'yes, yes, i am pietro maximoff/ralph bohner' than what i think he did which was double check his role PM to switch the order

I'm not so sure tbh, assuming that scum has a provided fakeclaim - which I understand to be the norm for themed games from what I've read - wouldn't it be said the same way as a regular town role?

also this feels like MAYBE tmi????????

[Shrek]

I feel like scumcyrus would just latch onto saying 'yes, yes, i am pietro maximoff/ralph bohner' than what i think he did which was double check his role PM to switch the order

I'm not so sure tbh, assuming that scum has a provided fakeclaim - which I understand to be the norm for themed games from what I've read - wouldn't it be said the same way as a regular town role?

also this feels like MAYBE tmi????????

no - i think it would be super weird if mod didn't provide fakeclaims in this game. unless you're saying something else?

oh ok. ive never played a coney island game before so i wasnt sure. zyla inserting the 'norm for themed games' quote seemed kinda off to me, like she was tryin to justify the knowledge of a fakeclaim in her role pm, but it could just be me overreacting

[Shrek]

i do be hustling doe

[Shrek]

@zyla who do you think is scum besides cyrus? so far all youve done is pick on him

Top 3 apart from Cyrus would probably be NM, Enchant, and T3

NM is NM, but he seems quieter than usual
Enchant was mostly null, but that last set of posts is just... weird
T3 just seems off to me, mostly gut, but also he claimed VT and yet 691 implies he has inside info on Enchant

Have you considered the possibility that I'm PR trying not to get nightkilled?

you still didnt say the info on enchant lol

[Shrek]

my vote on t3 still stands

[Shrek]

come on t3 cough up tha info

[Shrek]

t3 really just gonna act like he didnt say anything about enchant being town and ‘elaborating on it later’ then huh

[Shrek]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

t3 dies tomorrow if no enchant elaboration

[Shrek]

actually wait what am i saying t3 is just lurking out of pressure which is his classic scumtell

VOTE: T3

[Shrek]

I just noticed i am sitting here uselessly again.


In my flavor, SWORD doesh't look like scum, because i collaborating with one of these agents. I even know this name, but i don't want reveal it yet.

town

enchant t3 third party buddies or smth?

[Shrek]

How we can be third party buddies?
Third party always alone, unless it's cult.

not necessarily in multiball. especilaly when there are lore justifications behind it

[Shrek]

How we can be third party buddies?
Third party always alone, unless it's cult.

not necessarily in multiball. especilaly when there are lore justifications behind it

Also why you assume us exactly as third party?

because t3 has been supporting you despite claiming vanilla town and without any really genuine evidence i think. unless hes using meta but idk

[Shrek]

cyrus unvote and just declare intent to e-1 him

[Shrek]

and enchant wont hammer because theyre a team

[Shrek]

what cyrus said basically. but also i respect the cajones

[Shrek]

I can only wonder.

Why Shrek asked Cyrus to unvote.
But didn't do anything self.

im an idiot and forgot i had my vote on him lol

[Shrek]

Galron
NM
hiraki

what is this for

[Shrek]

actually wait what am i saying t3 is just lurking out of pressure which is his classic scumtell

VOTE: T3

I'M LITERALLY IN SCHOOL

im talking about yesterday where i prompted you to tell is why enchant was town and you ghosted me

[Shrek]

lol

[Shrek]

hiraki is obvtown. nm is mafia. galron is probably ok.

theres your answer

[Shrek]

@mega full roleclaim?

[Shrek]

nobody else vote for zyla i want both her and mega to claim

[Shrek]

yeah that tracks. not voting zyla yet cause i dont want nm i hammer without a claim but i believe you

[Shrek]

[Shrek]

Shrek why did you need the claim from MegA?

because this is a coney island game and i wanted to see if his claimed role aligned with his person claim. if hes gonna die anyways itd be useful to have that info sooner for speculation rather than after he dies

[Shrek]

oh ok i didnt know. my b

[Shrek]

breh

[Shrek]

what if a guilty….

isn’t

a guilty!??

(x files doot doot doot da doot doot theme plays)

[Shrek]

VOTE: Zyla

understandable have a nice day

[Shrek]

ok 19 dollar fortnite card who wants it

[Shrek]

post 1000 too you beautiful bastard

[Shrek]

two different evil teams cyrus

[Shrek]

elaborate

[Shrek]

cheeky what does your list look like

[Shrek]

@zyla who do you think is scum besides cyrus? so far all youve done is pick on him

Top 3 apart from Cyrus would probably be NM, Enchant, and T3

NM is NM, but he seems quieter than usual
Enchant was mostly null, but that last set of posts is just... weird
T3 just seems off to me, mostly gut, but also he claimed VT and yet 691 implies he has inside info on Enchant

also theres this post

[Shrek]

why is mastina so high

[Shrek]

N_M -> Enchant -> Zyla

tunnel mode activated

It was going to be Enchant or N_M to be honest.

Zyla only shows up 5 times in Hiraki iso. Zyla could've been tacked on lim list as soft distancing but clear intent to go NM/Enchant.

I could be over thinking it but I prefer hiraki over NM at this point.

I feel like scumcyrus would just latch onto saying 'yes, yes, i am pietro maximoff/ralph bohner' than what i think he did which was double check his role PM to switch the order

I'm not so sure tbh, assuming that scum has a provided fakeclaim - which I understand to be the norm for themed games from what I've read - wouldn't it be said the same way as a regular town role?

Hiraki is only shows up 4 times in iso, this post tmi scum have fake claims.

thats what i said like a bajillion posts ago

[Shrek]

why did it quote 1048 wtf

[Shrek]

I feel like scumcyrus would just latch onto saying 'yes, yes, i am pietro maximoff/ralph bohner' than what i think he did which was double check his role PM to switch the order

I'm not so sure tbh, assuming that scum has a provided fakeclaim - which I understand to be the norm for themed games from what I've read - wouldn't it be said the same way as a regular town role?

also this feels like MAYBE tmi????????

[Shrek]

hello everyone! it is your friendly shrek here and i an now going to claim!

i am vision, an odd night alignment cop! night 1 i checked hiraki, night 3 i checked mastina. i crumbed it by asking both galron and mega how they had an inno beforehand (since i can outright get innos to begin with).

ANYWAY.

hiraki is town. mastina is also town. us 3 are locktown

cheeky, n_m, cyrus, and enchant.

one of these is townie. other three are mafia. claiming now because i wont be able to get off my night 5 investigation and that late in the game my previous ones would be meaningless anyway

[Shrek]

hello everyone! it is your friendly shrek here and i an now going to claim!

i am vision, an odd night alignment cop! night 1 i checked hiraki, night 3 i checked mastina. i crumbed it by asking both galron and mega how they had an inno beforehand (since i can outright get innos to begin with).

ANYWAY.

hiraki is town. mastina is also town. us 3 are locktown

cheeky, n_m, cyrus, and enchant.

one of these is townie. other three are mafia. claiming now because i wont be able to get off my night 5 investigation and that late in the game my previous ones would be meaningless anyway

My queston is why did you wait so long to reveal this I was pushing mistina most of the game and also since mistina was mostly town read , why didn't you check one of us four last night?

wtf kind of question is that? i said im odd night checker. i wanted two results at least so that i didnt get instantly nightkilled. i checked mistina because she would be the most useful to confirm (it was between her and cheeky). on the flipside none of you n_m or enchant being confirmed would help town anywhere near as much.

[Shrek]

i mean you DID just give away your alignment by immediately shading the cop claim so it doesnt really matter either way

[Shrek]

there are things in this game i miss sometimes. to me it was you or cheeky and i trust cheeky

[Shrek]

shrike I don't buy your claim since mega cleared mistina and gailron cleared mistina d2. You want us to belive you decied to check a slot that was already mass town cleared.

if you think mastina has the possibility to be scum then why are you mad at me for investigating her?

hiraki is right that you are wasting your breath though. i dont have to convince scum that they are scum

[Shrek]

i am vision, an odd night alignment cop! night 1 i checked hiraki,

night 3 i checked mastina

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I TOLD y'all not to investigate me. It was an absolute waste.

Still tho.

To me, pretty damn clear; N_M, Enchant, and cyrus, altho I do suppose we owe the due diligence of not just writing Cheeky off as town.

Or it's a fake claim and mistina and shriek are scum.

literally same page he tries to say the ‘locktown person’ is scum with me

[Shrek]

VOTE: N_M

[Shrek]

VOTE: NM

Fair enough.

I will hold my claim for a bit.

you mean "i will take my time to think of a claim"?

idk if youve realized the situation or not but you will not sit on your claim

[Shrek]

so claim then

[Shrek]

because if you have a power role that proves you're innocent then the game is solved

[Shrek]

n_m flaking again causes me to lose two games in a row

incredible

@mastina if we have to play kingmaker who do you want to win

[Shrek]

VOTE: Cyrus

[Shrek]

i mean we kind of are playing kingmaker lmao. lets leave it in the hands of whoever survives tbh

[Shrek]

Encant broke a major rule. It is okay to claim scum by your self . It is forbidden to claim scum with some one else. He not only claimd scum with some one else he also throw the game, so yes town may win, but only due to encant breaking two major rules.

tbf he isnt scum with someone else atm

[Shrek]

he could literally just as easily have said ‘cheeky and cyrus are two witches’ and it wouldve been fine

[Shrek]

anyway its in scums best interest not to kill town tonight otherwise its a draw

[Shrek]

he could literally just as easily have said ‘cheeky and cyrus are two witches’ and it wouldve been fine

Yeah that would have been fine, but that's not what Enchant did.

i can extrapolate data because i know mastina and i are town

[Shrek]

wdym

[Shrek]

yessss lets go n_m flaking from the site loses town two games in a row. nice.