Mafia 29: Mafia - Game over!

[PeaceBringer]

vote Joe

- a name like that has to be non-mafia

[PeaceBringer]

unvote, vote hairy mexican--

a little quick on that train for nothing.

[PeaceBringer]

lol, I was joking, I agree that a omgus vote is not scummy, but 2 people does not a bandwagon make.

3 people is a little bit closer though.

vote: Locus Cosecant

I still reserve the right to change it though.

but 3 does, I had voted joe--

[PeaceBringer]

bloojay had to be replaced in another game.

Isn't Uraj chronically replaced?

know nothing of omni

Zoneace usually is active-

mod prods?

[PeaceBringer]

well we alread have a non-scum non role player claim-- in other words Hairy is saying he is a safe lynch.

We could vote No Lynch and it is usually to our benefit to do for except for the fact that it eliminates a good voting record.

I will Unvote- open to hearing which way folks want to go.

[PeaceBringer]

Hairy MExican-- It is first day, we pick at straws. Care to go check my recent games and see how much I have posted on day one or even what my level of posting is. I also BTW, am one that changes up how I approach interacting in a game. Feel free to check out games I am in or have been in. I would gladly post you links to games at other sites. My posting and voting placement has nothing to do with wether GG or BG.

You jumped on someone for minor stuff and folks reacted quickly. I voted to get reaction and see what is going on. I then unvoted (something I do a lot of regardless of role) and looking at what happens. What pray tell have we to discuss or interact about on a day one. We need stuff to happen. I have learned a lot recently about my being more effective if I watch reactions generated by others rather then trying to cause reactions myself. I still do it some, but get better reads by sitting back.

[PeaceBringer]

oops, GDB not double checking before posting. didn't unvote because HM you claimed to be "safe" goal on day one is to get through without lynching a role player and hope to lynch scum. I suspect HM you picked someone in the so-called "hot spot" in order to try and bandwagon quick. I always suspected "town" claims who put up a strong fight to survive, especially on day one.


at any rate, since I would prefer to get through this day I am not going to unvote because HM-- you pretty much declared yourself a "safelynch" if this is not true I have nothing else to go on.

[PeaceBringer]

Sorry folks for the triple posting but another thought.

In my experience I have seen frequently that scum more often tend to be off-voting on dayone lynches then onvoting. The reason for this is because they know who is clean and not and in essence look clean by avoiding a day one run-up.

No I will go back to observing. HM the plain fact is you are safe lynch.

[PeaceBringer]

hmm, I does look like we have caught newbie scum.

Unvote-

Vote OllieP12

[PeaceBringer]

oops

vote OllieP13

[PeaceBringer]

I still can go HM for the safe vote but I want to tell you this. I really hate it when folks hint at a role with only a votes on them. It doesn't really help-

unvote

[PeaceBringer]

age doesn't really matter all that much...I know the ages of a few ppl here that I'm betting you would swear were ten years older than they were...

hey I don't mind be considered 10 years younger--LOL

[PeaceBringer]

who called a spamming party and didn't invite me.

FOS anyone who calls spamming scummy, just folks having fun

Darklight-- I find your recent behavior real spurious. And thus BIG FOS to you

[PeaceBringer]

FOS anyone who calls spamming scummy, just folks having fun

FOS Peacebringer

for bullying and intimidation.

Good grief-- Pointing a finger is SO INTIMIDATING--

(guess someone doesn't realize how little stock I put in finger pointing--LOL)

Shakes FINGER AT LOCUS

--- shame on you--- Bad locus. So bad maybe you is scum.

[PeaceBringer]

How does my FOS mean anything more than your FOS? If your argument is that your FOS was meaningless, surely the same argument could be applied to mine, yes?

I don't give a flying fig about the finger-- the comment about bullying and intimidating on the other hand I take offense to. I find someone picking and claiming someone as scummy because they like to have fun and post stuff even if it is inane. It generally has no bearing on role or scumminess and clearly not out of character from what has been observed of every player. This place needs more folks with a sense of humor at times. Lighten up, just a game. The more interaction, the more reactions, the better. Quiet different in my book then saying nothing.

[PeaceBringer]

This is serious business. The town has infiltrated us, and we have good intelligence that they plan to murder us one by one. Our minds must be sharp and focused, not diffuse and inattentive.

Hello, this is a game. If you enjoy it by being super serious, more power to you. Not everyone is like you. And appearing Diffuse and inattentive maybe a persons persona. You have no idea how or why others play the way they do. Just because someone doesn't play the way you do, doesn't make them a bad player or not helpful to the game. There are too many people who sit back passively in games around here, INMHO, no need to try and intimidate players who have a different style into taking on lurker tendencies. Interaction and exchange is good.

[PeaceBringer]

INMHO? That's a new one by me.

LOL--- where did the N come from-- too funny.


KE-- I can understand the bit about being flooded with emails. I don't have anything like that set. So I can understand that frustration. Again this is a game, everyone enjoys the game differently.

[PeaceBringer]

okay, let me get this straight, We have a safe lynch canidate and Locus is bouncing around all over the place stiring things up and looking for new canidates to run up the lynch pole? Definitely scummy behavior if I have seen it unless someone can say he usually plays that way, but it is not what I have witnessed. To go from a canidate who is a self-proclaimed safe first day lynch to bouncing around from one target or another without even a semblence of reaction seeking IMHO, I have to actually cast a vote in that direction. Vote Locus Cosecant.

[PeaceBringer]

I followed Newbie 66-- 1st day play there was different then here. You got into an arguement locking into another players as scum, who turns out was in fact scum. The feel of your play here is different to me so far.

But here is the deal, we have a deadline, we have a safe lynch target. Yet you have chosen suddenly to pick on either "spamming" or "lurkering" in an effort to move votes in another direction which screams of claim searching to me. Hey, I am all for prodding lurkers but we are past that point in the game given there is a deadline and your behavior seems scummy to me comparitively.

[PeaceBringer]

locus I have done my share of lurker hunting-- NOT ONCE has it resulted in finding scum. It just results in getting people replaced or more active.

[PeaceBringer]

ANd why Melchizdec in particular-

QUagmire only has 3

Scalebane only has 3

Bloojay has a whopping 4

the time to hunt lurkers is before deadline, not as you have one approaching with a self-proclaimed safe-lynch.

Key to day one is get out without losing a role player. If your lucky you nail scum but that is few and far between. (and usually because the scum played pretty damn scummy. )

[PeaceBringer]

dang forgetting to bold

Vote Locus Cosecant

[PeaceBringer]

Darklight-- the thing is HM pretty much said he is a safe lynch--ordinarly on a first day a "safe lynch" often ends up followed. I sit back and watch and even withdraws votes at times when we get to this point to see what turns up, see where any shifting happens. There was one major shift to zoneace which I have to go look at who pushed that and then Locus C- Odd behavior starting off with spammer and then going to lurkers and playing differently then normal persona.

[PeaceBringer]

if folks don't switch to Locus Scum I will place a vote on HM because he is a safe lynch.

[PeaceBringer]

HM-- actually no lynch's are favorable to the town with the exception of eliminating a voting record. I prefer the voting records. Where I come from No Lynch is allowed but at the expense of night actions.

As I have said the goal of the 1st day is to get through it with as little damage as possible. You don't want to out a role player and if lucky you want to find scum. In the process you want to establish a voting record in order to help you sort out who is scum and who is not.

HM I understand the desire to keep on playing and your sudden defensiveness has me concerned. Therefore I

unvote and vote Hairy Mezican

tying the vote (which I believe puts as at a no lynch if that is t he vote at deadline)

[PeaceBringer]

fine then Unvote and

vote Locus Cosecant

I have made to many mistakes related to the deadline around here since it is completely different way then my experience.

[PeaceBringer]

okay then

unvote- vote locus cosecant

[PeaceBringer]

hmm maybe I was lynched anyway, I have since learned a tie does not result in no lynch.

[PeaceBringer]

oops wrong game--DOH. Sorry about the multi posting.

[PeaceBringer]

then set the deadline to January 27 th or something. I would rather there be more time.

[PeaceBringer]

I will revote the Safe lynch as deadline approaches and hope one more person choose to do so.

UnVOTE VOTE HAIRY MEZICAN

[PeaceBringer]

oops never mind that would not bring it up to a tie.

UNVOTE

[PeaceBringer]

cool the

UNVOTE- VOtE HAIRY MEZICAN-

gives a townie a chance to take the safe lynch

[PeaceBringer]

sorry missed the zoneace claim HM-

[PeaceBringer]

unvote, Vote ZoneAce

[PeaceBringer]

Zoneace-

first of all when you can get through day one without losing a role player it is a good thing. HM understands this.

If we had time and no silly freaking deadline then we could alter the voting after one of your canidates or locus. However, we don't have that time and no one is going to move their votes. The scum are sitting either on a vote or with a no vote and perfectly content to let a deadline pass thinking they will be harder to spot since easier to blend in a deadline lynch.

[PeaceBringer]

Well, that sucks...I'm still convinced Locus Cosecant is townie, but no one else can see it...his play is much scummier than normal, and he has a slightly scummy play style already...

MoS- I see it but we got no momentum that way and with deadline we really need the safe way out.

[PeaceBringer]

grow up zoneace, it never should be a bad thing for a goon to take one for the mafia, that is what a goon is for.

Now if we can just find the bloody townies that have infiltrated are midst we would be golden.

[PeaceBringer]

locus- hmm weird because someone else told me tie does not go no lynch, just who got there first. I was content with that prospect.

[PeaceBringer]

Ah, missed the 1/2 majority bit. So I will

unvote.

[PeaceBringer]

vote JD

something needs to happen

[PeaceBringer]

gee GH I guess I didn't vote, hmm-

LOL

[PeaceBringer]

again the above list is in-correct cause I ended up on the zoneace lynch I believe.

vote JDTAy--

why go back to that vote?

[PeaceBringer]

fine I can

vote Coron

[PeaceBringer]

sorry, forgot the

UNVOTE, Vote coron

[PeaceBringer]

vote maximus

[PeaceBringer]

that is Unvote, vote maximus--

keep a finger pointed at Coron

[PeaceBringer]

I'm still trying to decide between PB, Coron, and MoS.

All three of them are acting pretty weird.

first exposure to each personality, isn't it.

Always interesting when folks point to others style and call them acting weird and that means a

big FOS for Genocide Heart

[PeaceBringer]

Yes, this is my first game on the site and I've yet to get used to everyone's style of play. Forgive me.

However, your actions today have been...


Vote JD ("Something needs to happen")

Incorrectly nitpick my list.

Incorrectly nitpick again, confirm vote on JD.

Vote Coron.

Correct previous post by unvoting JD.

Vote Maximus

Correct previous post by unvoting Maximus. Also FOS Coron.

FOS me


Your posts have either been contentless, or votes without explanation (With the exception of the FOS on me.)

At best this accomplishes nothing because it gives us no information, at worst it starts a potentially dangerous bandwagon. So if this is your style, might I ask that you change it?

I always change a little something in my game- and anyone can always ask. Wait till you encounter Internet stranger if you find my style frustrating.

[PeaceBringer]

Okay, want to know some my thinking about the voting. I am suspiscious of those harping on Hairy Mezican at this point. Granted he may have lied about being Goon and deflected the lynched to an actually goon and may be as bloody townie as they get but obviously given the claim anyone who jumps a that to me sets off alarm bells. If you look at my votes, they have been related to that. I don't necesarrily find it vitally important to explain my votes, because sometimes I throw votes for a reaction or some other purpose and am trying to sort stuff out.
I also want to trot out an really old line from my early werewolf play. Everything is not always what it seems.

Right now I feel comfortable with the Maximus vote based on the HM pressure.

[PeaceBringer]

coron, everyone who has done any playing has been dead right on calling someone scum and horribly wrong.

I find someone to be pointing at the rightness to be a little suspiscious, well unless of course it is IS who thinks he is always right.

[PeaceBringer]

MoS for constantly jumping around to different people, and getting frustrated when explaining his choices.

Maximus for

very

aggressively pushing an MoS lynch.

PeaceBringer for jumping around to different people and not bothering to explain at all.

Coron for, christ, I can't even remember now.

Me for posting a lot without ever supporting anything with a vote.

A whole lot of people for hardly being active.

do you not even read? I gave an explaination- I am suspisciousl of those pushing JDTay. I have found if you announce w hat you are trying to pay attention to in voting you miss the intent and I got tons of reaction by my play.

[PeaceBringer]

I mean those Pushing HM-- JDTay is another game so that was a brain fart.

[PeaceBringer]

hmm unvote.

[PeaceBringer]

Genoicide Heart-- I don't say much for a reason cause the more I share my thoughts at times I get accused of being scummy. Also if I explain how I examine things or my thinking all the time it clouds things.

Read into that, that what Maximus said has interesting conotations. I care not to explain further. I prefer to see what happens.

So I don't give a flying fig what you think of my play style GH but you are gravely mistaken.

[PeaceBringer]

vote maximus

back to original thought on max. I thought he seemed to be indicating an investigative notion but now it looks like he was trying to push the lynch.

Now who else is the scum.

[PeaceBringer]

unvote, vote Master of Sin

[PeaceBringer]

i keep switching cause I don't have a clue- just trying to sort things out.

I thought maximus was making copish claim so switched to you. He denied it, began to think he mighta been playing a scum ploy switched back.

Now he has gone suicidal, which I have done only as a good guy, so I switched back.

[PeaceBringer]

and your reasons for voting me are...

from what I can tell, the reasons for voting for me apply to yourself just as well, which would make you a hypocrit as well as scummy-looking

pointed to by someone who may be copish.

[PeaceBringer]

This is pathetic.

Make note of the last few people who voted for me. They are most likely scum because deadline is approaching and they are mindlessly jumping on the bandwagon in hopes that noone would notice.

I was hoping we could take out MOS but oh well if the town is too blind to decipher between deception and truth.

Let me make it easier.

Unvote
Vote: Maximus

could catch commify- missed that easy mistake but unvote MOS, revote Maximus

yes one more vote switch-- I got no clue between the 2 here.


To be perfectly fair, Maximus, you have failed to give any reasons.

I still with the town best of luck but I think mafia's got this one down.

This is Mafia Mafia, remember?

[PeaceBringer]

This is pathetic.

Make note of the last few people who voted for me. They are most likely scum because deadline is approaching and they are mindlessly jumping on the bandwagon in hopes that noone would notice.

I was hoping we could take out MOS but oh well if the town is too blind to decipher between deception and truth.

Let me make it easier.

Unvote
Vote: Maximus

To be perfectly fair, Maximus, you have failed to give any reasons.

I still with the town best of luck but I think mafia's got this one down.

This is Mafia Mafia, remember?

could catch commify- missed that easy mistake but unvote MOS, revote Maximus

yes one more vote switch-- I got no clue between the 2 here.

[PeaceBringer]

Peacebringer, you need to bold that to count...

I'll probably change my mind again- infact I am just going to

Unvote

here.

Genoicide-- nothing new about my play being hated---

[PeaceBringer]

It's not just a personal thing with me disliking it, though.

You understand that posting no information in an information game is either unproductive or actually counterproductive, right?

yes, I have also learned it is not always wise to share everything I think. Where I come from folks do that sort of thing all the time and no one gets concerned about it. I come from a slightly different culture of game play, so while I adapt as best I can to this site I still have learned the tools and way of playing in a "different culture" then the mafia scum culture.

You will find that when I have something to say I have no problem saying it.

[PeaceBringer]

okay I want to look it over- Especially those dealing with HM.

Fair warning-- modding a major CF it FBG but will check in as able.

[PeaceBringer]

hmm- I will

vote Joe

for GH-
he voted for HM when pretty much goon in my book. He has not been doing much else in the game.

[PeaceBringer]

vote JDtay

[PeaceBringer]

vote JDtay

I would like to institute a new meta-gaming policy. Who's with me on this?

Anyone from this point on who only posts a vote without any justifying text whatsoever should be lynched.

This is not helpful for the town. Ever. It only makes you look like you're trying to evade your posting responsibilities while getting your vote in. It reeks of scum. This is particularly disturbing coming from someone who already has been fingered as suspicious by some.

The thread has many of these posts, and they need to stop. This is the only way I can think of to get them to stop. I would love some feedback on this thought.


I'm sorry if I sound frustrated, it's just that this is the slowest mafia game I've ever been a part of. Few are posting one even a semi-daily basis. It's getting a bit aggravating to me, and "only a vote posts" don't help at all. If it's random, say it is. If there's a reason, say it is. I'm not asking for a lot, even a sentence will do.

hey if you think this game is slow, you haven't been around MS long enough. I think my vote is a good one and I so no reason to always outline my reasons for voting. Deal with it.

[PeaceBringer]

Unvote: And rather then wait for folks to get me closer to lynch points, since there is such a rush. I am spy. I have to go look at PMs to see who followed. I know I did GH.

unvote, Vote Thesp

in the meantime.

[PeaceBringer]

Only 2 nights so far or I only followed twice.

Previous night followed Locus Cosecant- Promafia

Last night Followed GH. Promafia.

No would you kindly unvote. JDTay was one pushing votes on a claimed goon that made no sense to me.

[PeaceBringer]

Vote Lazarus Moth

[PeaceBringer]

Vote Lazarus Moth

This is exactly why people think you've been acting scummy.

I play this way, I understand the suspiscion.

[PeaceBringer]

really want reasons- JDTay for the HM push.


Thesp- voted you because the vote for me seemed more on style of play. You took coron being guilty and then took it to mean musta been a bad guy on the JDTay vote. There may be, but I doubt it. JDTay was not pushed heavily by Coron and where the vote landed.

Voted Lararus moth because his play is odd to me. I don't like where he is pushing. He early on tried to link MoS and coron. Then he pushes the same canidated Coron was pushing in Zoneace and MoS. Unlike the standard Mafiascum player I use my voted differently and find FOS to be toothless. Larzarus also was hard after me, as well as you. Oh and for Lazarus moth, focusing on a claimed doc not being dead is something scum would do to the real doc who they have chosen not to kill. It is right out of Scum 101.

[PeaceBringer]

OKay-- followed Thesp last night he is Anti-mafia

thus he needs to be lynched.

Vote Thesp-

[PeaceBringer]

I have already said everything. I am a mafia-spy like URaj apparently was. I submt who to follow and learn if pro or anti mafia-

[PeaceBringer]

Hey, this is rich and amusing. Always enjoy a good fake cop. Let's see he stated he viewed exactly who I claimed to view. Interesting. Let's not forget the fact that Bigben was largely AWOL and really had not real reason to investigate those 2 players. Thesp claim is a perfect set up, who you going to believe. That claim works a lot better in no reveal because the truth will be learned one way or another. Thesp is clearly trying to buy a day. You all can believe who you want, it will be sorted out.

[PeaceBringer]

Oh and Thesp, the pre-emptive outing might be believeable, but if that was the play I would have done it when I first outed the previous day.

[PeaceBringer]

okay that was way weird-nice kill though-

[PeaceBringer]

Okay we have 4 townies gone-

must be one anti-mafia left at least.

we have 8 alive-any thoughts on how to proceed.

I will

vote Lazarus

here

[PeaceBringer]

RIF- Nanook-

count the smilie faces
melchizedek - (Townie) - Killed Night 1
Coron - (Townie) - Killed Day 3
olliep13 (Deputy) - Killed Night 3
Thesp (Doctor) - Killed Day 4

just to help you though- those are the 4 townies.

[PeaceBringer]

Unless I'm mistaken, lazarusmoth is now one from a lynch, so, I'll hold off or now and see if he's got anything to say. Although, really, StevieT92 just posting nothing but 'sorry, busy, getting a bad vibe' strikes me as kind of useless and potentially harmful. And further, the player he replaced was mostly useless, too, although not particularly scummy. So... based on what lazarusmoth says, I'll go one way or the other.

good post-- I voted lazarus based on previous interactions-- good chance he is just off on his read of the game. Actually I will

unvote, vote Stevie

while waiting for Laz- I could easily switch back

[PeaceBringer]

well given the way things are going one of lazarus/flay- stevie may be scummy. I would have to read game again to figure more but where things currently are, LM could have just been off in the game so voted in the other direction.

[PeaceBringer]

sorry Stevie, missed you claim- Not an accomplish,

Unvote

[PeaceBringer]

STD- okay I am an idiot also and I forgot that you replaced Joe-

UNVOTE- Vote Mr. Flay

[PeaceBringer]

Mr. Flay, the return of my vote back to you is only related to my suspiscion of your predecessors game play. Looked at STD's play, wanted to see more, voted for him. Realized he was replacing Joe who was cleared in my book and likey a goon. This goes back to day one. So go back to LM's play, which you inherited. Also following me on a vote with out back checking yourself is a tad fishy. So content to throw my vote back your way.

[PeaceBringer]

Hmm, claiming a nigh invulnerabilty is to me just a shaky claim, possible but shaky. I have seen scum use similar claims before and it is possible. I want to here from Darklight more since he hinted at more.