Shirou wrote:13p Mini-Normal Setup designed by me, submitting to review:In post 4492, Shirou wrote:/in to mod a mini
Mafia 1-shot BP Traitor
Mafia Informed Doctor (There's a Vigilante)
Mafia Ninja
Town Informed Nurse (There's a Traitor)
Town Follower
Town Motion Detector
Town Voyeur
Town VT
Town VT
Town VT
Town VT
Town Novice Vigilante
Town Psychologist
note: I know it's recommended as a first time mod to get a pre-made setup or so, but I already have 3 years of experience as a player and I would really like to mod a setup of my own design.
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oh hi mastina and Isis
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"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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What a weird setup. Everything depends on how well the ninja plays"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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I tolerate swing a lot more than most reviewers.
I think the setup as a whole has too much power for town. I'd pass it with the follower dropped."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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yeah I was thinking of dropping one of the Town PRs but I wasn't sure which would be the best one.
Maybe we could drop both voyeur and motion detector for follower though? I think voyeur/motion are a bit useless other than for denying fakeclaims.いつだってヒーロー。
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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It's very swingy yes.
A high-risk, high-reward sort of thing I suppose?いつだってヒーロー。
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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Yes I agree the MD and voyeur are useless, that's why the follower is what's cut. I think the town is pretty strong in this setup.
Traitorization is a pretty strong town effect.
The voyeur can do weird stuff like blackmail a trueclaiming solo doctor into performing the doctor action. That's p cool. It's hard for the town to figure out how to get the equity out but they can try."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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I thought about it a bit and you're rightIn post 7, Isis wrote:Yes I agree the MD and voyeur are useless, that's why the follower is what's cut. I think the town is pretty strong in this setup.
Traitorization is a pretty strong town effect.
The voyeur can do weird stuff like blackmail a trueclaiming solo doctor into performing the doctor action. That's p cool. It's hard for the town to figure out how to get the equity out but they can try.
The doctor is too fragile to the follower once the ninja is dead, when there's already the vigilante/psychologist to watch out for. I'm okay with cutting out the follower.いつだってヒーロー。
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"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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I was also wondering you and mastina opinions on upgrading the traitor to 2-BP shot. Maybe it's too much protection for scum to the vigilante though.いつだってヒーロー。
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Setup's incredibly swingy, dependent pretty much on the performance of a single role: the mafia ninja. If the ninja is never killed, then the town basically has only two roles and is somewhat weak (especially since the psychologist won't be catching the ninja), but if the ninja dies early, then the town is incredibly strong, with only one (non-multitasking) scum who has to deal with three investigative roles (four, technically, but the night after the ninja dies they gain immunity to the psychologist).
My inclination is to agree with Isis; drop the follower, and it's probably closer to the balanced range. Swingy, but closer to 50-50 in the swing imo.-
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Okay, so this would be the final setup right?
Mafia 1-shot BP Traitor
Mafia Informed Doctor (There's a Vigilante)
Mafia Ninja
Town Informed Nurse (There's a Traitor)
Town Motion Detector
Town Voyeur
Town VT
Town VT
Town VT
Town VT
Town VT
Town Novice Vigilante
Town Psychologist
Thank you for the suggestions Isis/Mastina. I'll drop/cut out the follower then.いつだってヒーロー。
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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yeah that looks good"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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