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Post #57 (isolation #2) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:43 am
Postby Enchant »
In post 53, kennyk wrote:I agree with Koba, that holstering N1 would be a good thing for every vig. Otherwise we might end in a bloodbath with many killed by friendly fire.
because you decided to make the game unpleasant for me from the very start and i have much more fun things to do today
In post 213, DkKoba wrote:And which townreads of mine do you disagree with?
I townread rce, kenny, enchant, worst, and bugspray(ordered from confident->least confident), have mixed feelings on flea, and think you and misty are below the bar of towniness i have set and ergo scum.
I'm asking you where you think im wrong, even in a scum!me world there has to still be another scum, no?
none of those people are townie
i know that koba sometimes has ~mysterious ways~ to read certain people but that list feels very much like an ass-pull
-D
You know that there can't be 5 mafia members right?
...
Honestly with so many vigilantes now i am not even sure.
In post 120, Enchant wrote:Wait did LT claim masonry or something like that with Datisi?
I am not sure if this question is meant to be real or just a mock question. I'll answer it anyway:
Look at the players list:
Logic and Literature (Datisi + Aristeia)
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Post #452 (isolation #17) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:30 pm
Postby Enchant »
In post 451, Flea The Magician wrote:Its only misyeet to lose if we have more than 2 vigs who fire tonight. Ones claimed and is holstering, one I can't remember. I'd be tempted to shoot ngl but thats me.
90% chance they just lie about holstering and fire anyway.
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Post #544 (isolation #27) » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:13 pm
Postby Enchant »
In post 543, DkKoba wrote:I think I prematurely townread Enchant, they are not trending in the direction I would expect town enchant to go in.
RIP 80% read rate.
Also, what direction?
Logic literally doesn't have logic. How you can say "Well partner most likely voting bugs" and then enlist bugs in these partners.
Nosense.
In post 555, RCEnigma wrote:Also want to pick your brain on if gaming the setup is possible. It can wait though.
I guess you are referring to mistyxs page one post about the best strategy if everyone is a n1 vig (?).
I have put some thought in this, too, but I am not getting to a solution that would end in desaster. The best way to deal with our skills in a 7 n1 vigs vs. 2 scum scenario (if we really are in such. Remember that there were non vig claims and the 7 vs. 2 isn't 100 % for sure either) has to involve some kind of predesigned targeting. If every vig shoots at whomever they think is most likely scum or even not at all, it would end in chaos and the outcome would be more or less random.
What if everyone shoots the player above him in the players list? Like I shoot Koba, LaL shoots me ... This would work, if we really are all vigs and scum has no adjacent spots on the list (or gets there by limming the player between them, if they are one apart) as the two players above scum would survive the night. Those two must be town. If the two scummies are neighbors on our players list it is 1 vs. 1 on day 2. Apart from the fact that scum could nightkill that player it will be endgamed anyway. And than there is this multitude of possible outcomes when there are other roles present.
I don't like the odds of this at all. No I didn't calculate them. It is just that it feels too far away from 100 % success to be good.
There seem to be better odds if we get to 1 on 1 duels. We elim one player today and design four pairs where the two players are to shoot each other tonight. If we really are 7 vigs vs. 2 scum and the lim one scum this strategy is game over for scum. If we lim one of 7 vigs we have to be lucky that none of the four pairings consists of the two scummies. The problems in this pattern is, that there could be non vig townies out there and that we need to find a pairing system. Finding this system could well be influenced by scum. Is 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8 better than 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5?
I can't think of any pattern that would help us getting way better odds. But maybe mistyx is better at logic and/or I missed something.
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Post #688 (isolation #44) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:20 am
Postby Enchant »
Imo logic is strange.
Like everyone knew i will 99% shot.
It means we are at minimum 6 ppl.
So no one else even bothered to shot as well? Like another shot would hit for 5, and remove someone scummy but noooo, we are smarter, now we need to no-lim and let mafia choose.
