Micro 1061: If Trees Could Scream [Game Over]

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I ruin disbelief and say that trees kill each other with axes and murder people (arsonist and firefighter are humans) with... axes as well.

Live with this.
ENT SUPREMACY.

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Who the hell is Entchant

Actually....
Hmmm...

Fine, it was actually pretty good

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VOTE: Titus

np get axed

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HA HE CLAIMED VANILLA TOWNIE


LAUGH AT HIM

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Oh no, i can't use swearing words.

0/10, failure of game.

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DID YOU WASH YOUR CLOTHES? MAYBE SMELL FROM THEM.

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DID YOU WASH YOUR CLOTHES? MAYBE SMELL FROM THEM.

I don't really get this, if someone smells of gasoline they've been primed for ignition surely. Not the arsonists then

But Arsonists keep gasoline somewhere on self. Right?

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ahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahha

you fools

It's not me will stuck in game.

IT'S YOU STUCK IN GAME WITH ME.

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yes oh wait i mean no

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Remind me, why Firefighter should't claim D1 in this setup.

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2 nights on 1 kill, while we make 2 kills knowing conftown.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Will post after watching this fully

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You should burn them at night

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Eh.
Titus being unreasonable on level is kind Town!Titus as i found when i was maf in game with her twice. Most infamously, she tried to sell me that 3+1=3, and trying to prove otherwise labeled me as mafia for her. And yes, it was complete infuriating experience, which i hate (but it's mostly knowing Titus acts like that as town which raged me).

Not surprising i just voted and won't give a fuck about every thing Titus says, to save my last sanity, but i don't mind if we vote someone else. I won't gonna cry if Titus get decapitated though.
Basically "Nah"

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Meta sucks though

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It's interesting we have same thoughts, i also townread En

t

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Entchant always has low content. What's the difference here Porkens?

CHARISMA

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Wha point of unvoting if you can vote one of scumreads instead

Like VOTE: Ircher

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Why don't the arsonists have a faction name?

Imo i know it's on level of insane telling, but it's probably real arsonist will not ask, because these REALLY draw hate, for reasoning that that's what arsonists asks to be as most distant with role mentally.

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VOTE: Ircher

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Oh, it's reflexive.

I mean Ircher on E-1 and all.

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UNVOTE:

I sleep.

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I unvoted Ircher because titus would likely just hammer instantly after that vote.

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I unvoted Ircher because titus would likely just hammer instantly after that vote.

Why? For the most part, I have townread Ircher but fir his recent movement claiming his SR was stronger than it is.

Idk i would

Better safe than sorry

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Prodding Aisa

So anyway, there's something telling that Ircher can be somehow town.

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I would be reluctant vote one of non-voters as mafia atleast. It's like death sentence (depends).

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Day still going?
Baaaaaaaa

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WHY I AM IN "WARY" AND NOT IN "ENCHANTED"

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I wanted to say someting

But then forgot what

So i just say that i hate mafia

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VOTE: Herta

JOIN

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Actually that’s wrong. I wouldn’t be happy to eliminate anyone. I have preferences of who I’d like to eliminate but they aren’t based on town/scum reads.

Like: Don Draper x Mistress (hydra of Nancy Drew 39 and Auro)
Love: Porkens
Wary: furtiveglance
Impatient: Herta
Enchanted: Vanderscamp
Wary: Ircher
Like: Titus
Wary: Enchant
Tempted: SCRRRDBEAR

I don't really get this, but it shows I guess genuine thoughtfulness rather than the manipulation vibes I'm getting from Titus.

VOTE: titus

Wtf

How can you townread that post?

Actually

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VOTE: Ircher

Ye

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VOTE: Ircher

Ye

Why did that post make you not vote Herta?

Idk, but it prob not coming from maf

Atleast it's silly way to embrace and throw away legitimate reason for scumread

Therefore, it makes Herta more often town than not

... Silly right?

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VOTE: Ircher

Ye

Why did that post make you not vote Herta?

Idk, but it prob not coming from maf

Atleast it's silly way to embrace and throw away legitimate reason for scumread

Therefore, it makes Herta more often town than not

... Silly right?

I feel like this logic implies that every time someone gives a town read on anyone, the person giving the read is less likely to be scum, which I don't find to be true.

Regardless of the silliness the result is the same and the process (not getting the read through legitimate means) is the same.

Not really.

In Herta case it's done in some absurd way.

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5/6 town players are not doused most likely.

We have... Uh. Well presuming arsonists think like me and will play safely and firefighter is not god of predicting, and we not cut down those they primed, like 3 chances for mistake. Maybe more. Never less.

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VOTE: SCRRRDBEAR

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Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.

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Fine. I don't mind.

VOTE: Herta

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3/5 are not doused.

if we chop undoused tree today, we can potentially lose. Watch your votes.

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3/5 are not doused.

if we chop undoused tree today, we can potentially lose. Watch your votes.

However, the obvious problem here, is undoused are most likely in most people’s PoE or scum right? Arsonists are most likely going to try to douse slots they don’t view as milelimable, so that isn’t really helpful either. Would it make any more sense to lim a widely tr player? Obviously no, it wouldn’t.

Rn, Ircher is currently my strongest sr.

Titus is right and i think we can safely assume Herta was not doused.

It means arsonists can quickhammer not doused tree and then ignite to instant parity.

So consider this day is Elo and stop voting mindlessly.

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Firefighter should claim imo.

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I don't know who is doused.

Only Firefighter can clarify that partiallly (but i would recommend to not claim targets).

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Because it doesh't make sense to douse Herta. Herta was counterwagon, and could had easily pushed as next elim (which happened).

I can literally guarantee that they didn't douse Herta. If they somehow did. Well. Lucky to us? Don't assume we are lucky though.

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Firefigher should claim and lead town as conftown. His "protections" are unneeded now.

It's likely that FF was doused anyway. I am not sure how gasolines view me, but they probably didn't douse me either (i would't honestly).

And i am not FF

. Therefore, it raises chances that FF is already doomed and should claim for atleast some benefit.

Any late, and arsos probably counterclaim/win already.

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@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

What YOU think

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Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.

I vote no one, before i am sure.

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VOTE: Ircher

But stumps should be directing us, I genuinely forgot this was a thing and it makes the claiming plan even less important.

imagine listening to Titus

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fairly i can't force anything

do what you do


I want to kill bear"letters".

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Ofcs

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Enchant/furtive

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I want to vote Porkens.

But something feels like Porkens is plainly VI.

Probably not smartest idea to push me when i could just vote them to death? Kinda suicidal.

On other hand, it could be nasty trick.

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Fine. Will vote Porkens in next 24 hours, unless Porkens do something to persuade me.

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perhaps

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I have ultrabad feeling.

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You are like devil who whisper "Let's do hammer".

Angel therefore is my split personality who is not gamethrower.

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Porkens claim

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VOTE: Porkens

If we lose, we lose.

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Why when i try to be civil and not hammering, it ends up horrible


ew

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2/5 town are not doused right now (presuming you didn't prevent one or more).

If we chop undoused target, they still can ignite on the win potentially. So we have 1-2 mislims or so.

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1/4 chance to hit Arso this day from my pov.

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I don't need to make this post as Arso, because FF is not important role at first place.

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Yes, right.

It's only importance in preventing arsos from knowing for sure who from primed targets are primed for sure and will die from ignite. Which is achieved regardless if FF claimed or not.
If you think arsos will waste time to prime, then igniting just because they know FF, then you have lasagna in head for many reasons.


Therefore, if i am arsonist, i am NOT telling FF to claim, to prevent him from being useful conftown and just rushing for "sure-winning-ignite" moment in chaos.

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Arsos never ignite, unless it will result in victory.
1. It gives them less people to hide.
2. It slows them. They need to waste 2 nights to kill 1 person.

FF or not, he is not important enough. At average, FF can stop like... uh. 0-1 prime on random (look at doctor effectiveness). If you prime and ignite FF, you losing 2.

So why i bother to reveal FF?

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Ah also, i can just hammer you and win.

Do you think i douse you? You are easist miselim lmao.

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Like i know how much stupid it looks but yes.

I would win as arso already. Especially if FF targeting are incompetent.

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If

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I THINK ENCHANT IS ARSONIST AND WON'T HAMMER ME BECAUSE THEY KNOW I WASN'T A DOUSE TARGET

ALSO, FURTIVE MAY HAVE BEEN THE N1 TARGET BECAUSE THEY SCARED PORKENS

um.
Opposite.

If you are doused, then it's not in arso interest to kill you.
If you are not doused, then arso wants you to die.

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I will hammer, if bear hits E-1 again.

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VOTE: SCRRRDBEAR

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Arso is incompetent.

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Whatever?

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I don't like this bullshit pumping from you.

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Why i would ignite when town choped my douse target, and i end up in elo with bad disguise, literally wtf?

In any case, just waiting one night with douse is safest play which i would take.


Also i don't care, furtive should had claimed anyway.

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I don't like this bullshit pumping from you.

Do you think Don is more likely scum here than either me or Ircher?

How do you feel about Don's contributions throughout the rest of the game?

I don't know. I wanted to open today with plan "let's kill both vander and ircher and win lol".
Yeah, arso can't kill tomorrow, so go wild.


Let's pull everything we know.

There's only 2 ignited: Screrbear (BEAR in future) and furtive self.

It means that furtive did stop one prime somehow. We don't know for sure, but if we discover who he would protect and who arso primed, it will be easier to win.


N1 is unknown
N2 is unknown
N3 is obvious. They doused furtive who claimed. Considering Arso is notcompetent and wanted to get rid of FF ASAP, it means BEAR was doused before, not furtive. If furtive was doused beforehand, then why they didn't ignite instantly if this was goal?
N4 is ignite. Obvs.


On n1-2 they doused BEAR and some other person. I gonna bet that scum doused BEAR at N1, because he looked towny at that point and it's unlikely to quess prime at N1. It's possible but still.


TLDR:
So most likely, at N2, furtive protected someone and prevented them from going hot potato.

Who it would be?

Who would arsos prime N2 and furtive to protect N2?

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... Eh. I can bet Don Draper was protected from death.

Ircher? lol, no.
Me? lol!
Vander? Did furtive even townread you? I don't remember.

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Well, theory is same.

Don or you was protected.

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I have insomnia

Did you ask something j readings

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Guys stop voting please until everyone acknowleges this.

We likely have a firefighter with two clears. There are five alive.

We wagon someone. If no one vouches, we lim them.

Then we get to tomorrow. Arsonist can't have killed.

So gg?

Glad you and other stamps keep attention and help us.

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Porkens tried to push me.
And died on this stance.

No way they douse me JUST FOR THIS. Literally, in that case, Porkens would had more luck with... Uh. Anyone else? FF at that moment not claimed.

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Question "Ircher or Vander"? Is invalid to me.

It's more question "Who the fuck from three are atleast one town".
We can execute two people, so it's not problematic. We can as well give Don pass i think (i think) and game solved by killing others. There's other problem.

Who will give ME a pass? Like I can't be sure that Don just decides "Uh Ench blatant scum" and voting me.

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Vanderscamp/Don

Ya think furtive would protect Ircher from douse and arsos would douse them?

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VOTE: Ircher

I really not picking anyone else today.

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gg i was scum

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A win's a win!
No-one has yet explained to me what an ent is

Ent is living wood.