Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[Ydrasse]

grah

i feel like i should unvote but im like standing emoji

[Ydrasse]

ehhh

it's hard to gauge that sort of statement w/o flip i think
wolf enchant is of course going to call someone screaming for their head a useless wolf
town enchant thinks kitty is useless because like, yeah lol this slot is very wrong about them

[Ydrasse]

not to be a nerd but i actually think the word useless is the most interesting part of that statement

[Ydrasse]

cause when we jumping and popping we jopping

im not voting until everyone says their little piece but thumbs up to everything atm

[Ydrasse]

yes but now isn't the time to talk about it
stares at you until you understand

[Ydrasse]

*twirls hair*

i grinding so much in tft lately i need to get master this season

[Ydrasse]

rep grinding wears on my soul

[Ydrasse]

hm.

[Ydrasse]

i have an inno (?) on someone

[Ydrasse]

i’m a checker with some stuff attached

[Ydrasse]

scum vigilante real not fake

[Ydrasse]

i kinda think the tiger is inno

[Ydrasse]

[Ydrasse]

i’m disloyal checker and got no result when i check skitter

[Ydrasse]

???

disloyal checker go through on wolf not town
i got no result

[Ydrasse]

???

disloyal checker go through on wolf not town
i got no result

you got roleblocked by me tho?

if you roleblock me then it not inno then

[Ydrasse]

i busy for a bit but now i unleashed and don’t have to be coy anymore
when i back we solve

[Ydrasse]

i one shot (smiles)

not use before for reason (less likely to be good at hitting i think) (also i parade around being all rah rah i important role trying to soak up any block before they realize it waste on me. and then i strike)

[Ydrasse]

way i feel about role is that if all mafia ninja then i probably there to investigate in way that can get them
i think that mafia must have way to mitigate me or give pseudo innocent i dont know exactly how though
probably some kind of block to try and deal with doctor and jk if all town

[Ydrasse]

when we all eat word and datisi has made the most breathtaking setup in his life

[Ydrasse]

i think that with less info out there and i post much as i do higher odds of being interfered with
value in patience

also not afraid of getting night kill this game when i low impact before this

[Ydrasse]

Toto

[Ydrasse]

AUGHHHHHHHH

[Ydrasse]

i think ascetic is less likely if we have many protect going on
it delves more into setup spec stuff but if you have things going on around you that can screw you over in multiple ways you should probably have the agency to like, deal with those things
also i think that a ninja-ascetic is kinda goofy lol

[Ydrasse]

mMMMMmm
i mostly okay with dying per usual
do think it less good when killing me doesnt entirely confirm something feel like waste somewhat or room for error push later

just point that out if we go with that plan today remember the Dog brought up

[Ydrasse]

probably low lol

also wouldnt ... jk stop me from doing my thing?

[Ydrasse]

okiii

well i think with Actually Zero Nightkills i afford to die during day and deal with from there

[Ydrasse]

just cranky about it

[Ydrasse]

I sleep

[Ydrasse]

if kitty's an ascetic watcher than i think it raises the chance slightly of ascetic mafia? it feels like it mirrors if not having an active way to stop everyone from doing things? i not very good at setup spec so unsure if that tracks

[Ydrasse]

i think he said he was informed

[Ydrasse]

i think this game so fucky we have to look at everyone again (obvious statemtn alert)

[Ydrasse]

i am sorry but im not a normal person and this was standard for me
skull emoji

[Ydrasse]

i would perhaps be a little worried if someone found a beacon of towniness

[Ydrasse]

the difference between this game and that was that i had a role that was from the start publicly known by everyone lol
like everyone knew mafia doctor, the claim and no kill was necessary to try and establish myself there was an actual reason
here what would be the move. "yeah lets do something weird because we can" is silly

and i also literally do this every game these days lol
it's fun to tease like "oooh im important you cant do anything about it" and then it's true and im like hehe >:3c

[Ydrasse]

its hard for me to care as town these days because 9/10 times ive been pr and its like "oh get out of jail card" and then if i die it's like w/e happens
the 1/10 time when im vt i kind of shrug because its like there are more vts and stuff that can carry
its zzz because i want to like go in and solve but then other things catch my eye

ive never been killed acting like this tho not until a few days in when like the people trying super hard die
i teeter on the edge of like limbaity but not really scummy

[Ydrasse]

has ur playstyle changed a lot over the past year or two? i remember you being fairly energetic and obvtown when town. My initial impression of your scumplay was very bland but i thought you grew the ability to blend and dodge and weave a little more over time even pulling off the occasional AtE gambit. Your play this game sorta feels like a reversion to ur 2020 esque scumplay where u felt very muddy but now u vibe with more people in thread so u get to vibe a little more now and be less stilted. idk if that makes any sense but it’s where my at with u rn is

yes i have greatly changed lol
most of the recent games in my past ones reflect this if you wanna skim them

[Ydrasse]

why would i clear you if im a wolf

i dont want town skitter to be enabled in any way

[Ydrasse]

i keep erring towards freedom as scum but idk if i'm biased after just watching him win
he feels the same to me (?) but also his playstyle isn't normal (this isn't said meanly)

this game feels like mechanical soup and everyone's just sloshing around in it

[Ydrasse]

mmmm

[Ydrasse]

[toto]
[mathblade]
[iv, kittytacky]
[fb, skitter]
[val, herta, freedom]

the world we live in where i put my inno that close to the bottom LMAO

[Ydrasse]

i think math is town the most because i think after watching warrior cats
wolf math would be being a lot more of a control freak but here it's like throwing every theory out into the thread and seeing what works

like scientific curiosity versus paying the scientists to push an agenda

[Ydrasse]

iv could stand to go down into an iv tier but i feel like he's put his neck out in places where he really doesn't have to for people recently, he's not being looked at or anything and also he was potentially shot at (?) so
i feel better about kittytacky strictly on mechanical purposes and also my super early read, i feel like ascetic watcher makes sense but i wish we knew earlier about the ascetic part, i probably would move kt up if we had because it does come at a time where it's like... hmmm. but that's probably paranoia lol

[Ydrasse]

the rest of it is kind of like handwaves
i want to talk to skitter more if she's here because i'm like "yes i have a good result on you" but also "your actual content is confusing me"

fb's roleclaim is like. mmmmm
i dont know how much of a setup would be designed with roles to be so interconnected i guess, letting your protective have a clearcut sign of "do not protect the person you should by default" feels so weird to me lol like you're course correcting people who already have other ways of being protected (doctor) also i guess its like why does only one protective know about the ic?

[Ydrasse]

iv could stand to go down into an iv tier but i feel like he's put his neck out in places where he really doesn't have to for people recently, he's not being looked at or anything and also he was potentially shot at (?) so
i feel better about kittytacky strictly on mechanical purposes and also my super early read, i feel like ascetic watcher makes sense but i wish we knew earlier about the ascetic part, i probably would move kt up if we had because it does come at a time where it's like... hmmm. but that's probably paranoia lol

If you think I am town then IV was shot at N1 or scum no killed which is uhhh

IV is almost certainly town.

i am not realistically interested in going after iv i'm just spewing out all my thoughts
i hate leaving out even the dumb ones LMAO

[Ydrasse]

for the bottom tier i literally just feel static and it's like these are all vts and there's probably a wolf in there somewhere if i squint
there's not a lot of substance for me to grab onto mentally but recency biases and going "hmmm yes this other person said this post 1932 i believe it"

[Ydrasse]

those words speak to my heart
-_-

[Ydrasse]

why not claim watcher alone?

[Ydrasse]

not feeling mafia today will be around tmrw

[Ydrasse]

v/la for the holidays

[Ydrasse]

unless anyone strongly objects i vote vts
it'd feel bad to vote out a pr and be wrong also i feel like someone's... probably lying? vague accusation but lol

[Ydrasse]

this is the goofiest choice but i'd rather be limmed while we have the numbers
i'm going to be >:( about it though

also i think if you suspect shenanigans, uh, the fact that we have two roles claiming with their whole chests to block kills... while we have like, nothing but no kills, is uh. well. it's a choice lol. especially when the main (?) people suggesting it currently/pushing for it are the people who are either (1) in the vt pool that was being bandied about to be limmed today or (2) pr role able to do said nk shenanigans/"able to do them"

[Ydrasse]

also i think that saying it's incriminating that i once played a game where i nked is like the absolute least charitable way to like. talk about things.
i have done it before. no one else is capable.
it's shady

[Ydrasse]

especially when the main (?) people suggesting it currently/pushing for it are the people who are either (1) in the vt pool that was being bandied about to be limmed today or (2) pr role able to do said nk shenanigans/"able to do them"

This looks like word salad to me can you be more specific (maybe put some names if that helps)

val89, and herta, being vts that seem okay with me dying specifically.
fb voting alongside them.

like i guess i have the perspective of like "well im going down but these people seem really happy to push me over first"

[Ydrasse]

the difference between this game and that was that i had a role that was from the start publicly known by everyone lol
like everyone knew mafia doctor, the claim and no kill was necessary to try and establish myself there was an actual reason
here what would be the move. "yeah lets do something weird because we can" is silly

and i also literally do this every game these days lol
it's fun to tease like "oooh im important you cant do anything about it" and then it's true and im like hehe >:3c

and this is what ydr said about that game where she was scum with spookybear

Ok that is actually wild

If scum actually nokilled it would indeed incriminate ydra there

+ i would be less confident in math and you

But, like, there would have to be a reason to no kill, like what would they be getting out of it? Trying to conf math's slot is maybe the only thing i can think of

what i gathered from this is that it's ... incriminating that i did something in a different game once with different circumstances lol
like i have a capacity to do it therefore it happened here but that doesn't seem like something anchored to /this/ game

[Ydrasse]

i think the fact that it was said to begin with is -_-
like i guess i dont get where the original thought could even come from because it doesn't make sense to me

[Ydrasse]

idk if im being crabby or not though like i want to be the brave soldier following on my sword to save everyone here but it makes me so annoyed to do LOL

[Ydrasse]

...my panic while i’m saying “yeah okay” and not doing anything more than pointing stuff out to ppl?

[Ydrasse]

don’t feel like anything today
think a lot of the stuff being theorized about me and play is very stupid
if you have questions for me ask directly will answer when i’m home if i feel normal

[Ydrasse]

soz but my mental collapsed for no reason last night so that’s why i’m feeling like this
and just general burnout from playing even though i want to have fun

[Ydrasse]

i think (and this is mostly at val right now because most recent) that it’s very dumb to say that like i had some sort of claim that was going to be taken away from me or i was going to do something else because i think all i’ve said this game was that i self resolve don’t worry about me xyz. there isn’t any substance to that which points one way or another wrt my role. it feels convenient to say “well i thought that you would be a protective” and then making a narrative out of it especially when i think it makes no sense for there to be a world where i just.. let someone hijack something i’ve set up all game to claim for themselves

similarly i also think that “pooky and ydra gambit omg” is a convenient point that doesn’t actually say anything about this game and ignores why that other game happened as it did. it’s like a fluff point to try and make wispy logic connect

[Ydrasse]

I bet you’re scum and already know the answer, that’s why you’re saying this :3

stares at you until You Understand

Sure, what were we supposed to "Understand"?

i have information that will lead to [shot down before i can finish]

What information did you have, or else why were you pretending you did?

iv was talking about prs in a way that wasn’t going to be helpful to town to just out

and the second thing was pure humor if not made obvious by the second part

[Ydrasse]

Is it standard practice to design a setup where the IC can be protected? Feels a little broken but I don’t understand aetups

let’s not speculate on that pls

I don’t think it’s +scum they have more information about what happened than we do

it’s not against the rules but scum does in fact benefit in knowing about protectives

stares at you until you understand

[Ydrasse]

ydra like i feel ur claim was sort of legit in some way. But i need it proven for skitter
if u flip scum i can immediately just go for skitter block and then we end the game tomorrow i think.
if ur town, great. Assuming skitter is definitely town here unless for some godly reason skitter ascetic decided to no kill for who knows what reason im not going to entertain at this moment.

then my poe is just in the herta/freedom/va98 which is still fine and workable.
Either way i think this is good.

Also if i can trust skitter being town then that means herta is probably good flip tomorrow.

But here I go lining up eliminations. My master plan has been revealed.

idk like stated i get that i probably need to die sooner rather than later because everyone is going raghhh at me and it verifies my check but this game is just idk

i feel like every other pr role has a reason right now to potentially be a wolf somehow and then it all falls back on me when i’m like “I Check” and interact with some of the elements of the game

like why do we have an ascetic watcher in a game with a ninja squad
why do we have a -ninja- doctor that’s also full
why do we have a jailkeeper who also knows that the ic can’t be saved
why do we have an ic who knows stuff about the ninja squad

like i just sit here and go “hmmm yes quite” thinking about how these pieces are supposed to interact all as town (totoscum)

[Ydrasse]

i treat pr as a standard get out of jail card for not doing as much as i in theory could. i do think that this role resolves in that i give my info and die but i’ve done what i done and it’s like water to cross when we get to the bridge

playing so overtly for a few days was about lightning rodding any blocks that could stop me given that i don’t want to waste the one shot i get and i wanted to get a hero shot like rah rah i saved the day with my guilty but then i didn’t do it’s like “welp this is what i get. guess i die lol”

[Ydrasse]

i think if i was a wolf i probably would have like. idk. tried to match more of the hype in a “traditional” way i.e cool useful role that’s worth keeping around in a game where i’m also like allegedly gambiting or my team can’t get kills

(self meta. i am shot down instantly)

[Ydrasse]

i find it weirder town u just didn't hide the fact u were one shot tbh.
That would have been my play.

meh
felt like being honest was better for this game
i’ve lied before about my shots but i didn’t really think it helpful to solving the mechanical stew

[Ydrasse]

i think it makes the most sense to kill in those three right now
maybe this is my fault for not paying attention but i don’t feel like any of them are aggressively townie and i find it difficult to like. imagine that there’s 2 wolves in the other claims? that’s arbitrary but it feels like that would be an abnormal play to show your hand more sort of thing

[Ydrasse]

everything Ydrasse is saying seems reasonable to me from a town POV which is annoying

i towm

[Ydrasse]

my lack of wim is entirely on the vicious cycle of me thinking i still like playing, joining a game because somethig intrigued me at the time and then remembering that it’s more fun to play neopets than think

[Ydrasse]

i’m one bad day from dropping 100 dollars for a rare pet

[Ydrasse]

1) proving everyone who suspected me to be wrong and evaluate how they engaged my slot
2) remove the chances that im the losing elim at endgame. if i don’t have the fight in me i’d rather die sooner and let someone else who does win it for us

[Ydrasse]

whenever i turn on my emotions in games it ends up with me crying because people don’t see obvious stuff or being nasty to people because they can’t find town me

[Ydrasse]

to me it feels like the things i’ve said should be seen as town but i know that my feelings are often irrational when i haven’t put in the work but to me it’s like i just don’t do any of this if i was a wolf and people should understand

[Ydrasse]

and i guess it’s like idk risk avoidance to use the miselim now if i can and remove myself from picture

i feel useless like i have a hierarchy of reads but can’t meaningfully pick one i feel good is bad and i’m afraid of being wrong

[Ydrasse]

i don’t have strong opinions either so the herta wagon is kind of just like Ok even if he’s in my bottom tier

i’ll be back later my boss is here now

[Ydrasse]

mmmmm
freedom spent a game recently relying a lot on wolf team for assistance and them basically coaching his play a bit idk how that would impact this game

[Ydrasse]

dumb thought but i think while note taking and info gathering is p nai i want to think herta would feel a little more shame in saying @yeah i gave up”
also i’ve never seen anyone admit to like vote tracking in excel lol

[Ydrasse]

mobile posting zzz

i think the excel vote tracking is a weird embellishment to think of as wolf is the point i’m not typing it out twice

[Ydrasse]

is freedom more of least towny vote than it is a wolfy vote because i struggle to like
idk i guess the worst thing i can pin to freedom is just seems curious and questioning but the stances don’t come often

[Ydrasse]

my god that wasn’t a watcher soft that’s how i talk
i have no reason to soft something and arbitrarily off-road

[Ydrasse]

atp just be my guest i don’t have time for idiocy

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: herta

w/e i don’t think the troops would rally to kill freedom but if you think we do i can vote there

[Ydrasse]

i prefer freedom if it wasn’t clear by “if we can manage it i’ll do it”

[Ydrasse]

idk the associative stuff doesn’t compel me that much wrt herta and his vibes are like. fine whenever hes around he doesn’t seem bothered by anything

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: freedom

we can try

[Ydrasse]

yeah idk it’s like it could be a thing but it doesn’t make me go “so true bestie!!!!”
idk i think associatives are useful but herta whenever he’s posting lately just. does not care at all unbothered moisturized etc
maybe he’s just over it if he’s a wolf and they’re doing bad

wrt fb i won’t pretend to understand him lol
i feel like most wolves wouldn’t want to vote someone off of that reasoning because it’s like flimsy and spineless? if that’s a wolf vote i guess the point is to be aloof about it but idk

[Ydrasse]

Ydra mechanically doesn’t make sense. If she gets a guilty on n1 it is game over for
scum.

?????????????????

[Ydrasse]

imagine a world where no one lies on the internet
breathtaking

[Ydrasse]

sorry i can’t say anything other than lol for fear of saying something truly nasty

[Ydrasse]

no fmpov it’s that towns being ran off of a cliff off of naivety in believing that what is in essence a souped up follow the cop setup was allowed and there is nothing that can be done about it

[Ydrasse]

w/e i gave my info and i can watch the train wreck from afar now
blessings

[Ydrasse]

i’m in a kpop mood today

[Ydrasse]

LMAO

[Ydrasse]

unprotectable ic alive on (checks) day 4 saying that

[Ydrasse]

i would be fucking screaming crying throwing up if i was playing so bad they didn’t wanna kill me

[Ydrasse]

like sorry but jesus christ “she said STARES” “follow the cop setup” “play better btw!!!”

my god.

[Ydrasse]

i would be fucking screaming crying throwing up if i was playing so bad they didn’t wanna kill me

weren't you trying to draw a night kill as a 1-shot cop. lmao.

are you intentionally this obtuse

[Ydrasse]

iv please just vote me lol

[Ydrasse]

i’m not about to start crying over this at work

[Ydrasse]

lol

[Ydrasse]

nothing u can do

[Ydrasse]

my vote stands.

[Ydrasse]

pictured: me, waking up and somehow still alive

(not feeling It today, will be around tmrw)

[Ydrasse]

pooky vs his chronic inability to not screenshot for his cases while scum
fight fight fight

i think that pooky would be capable of doing that with dann because i think his opinion of dann being able to rebuttal/do good theatre is high enough
i dont think that he'd want to though when he could just shove through a townie/spend his casing energy there

it feels over the top for the sake of it

[Ydrasse]

i thought about the setup some and i think kt is almost always town if the role's real
(setup spec. i know.)
if toto's alive and there's ninjas running loose
kt's role is the way to get a potential inno
my role's the way to get a potential guilty

also beyond that i think his play is fine. i think getting upset someone didnt go with your great plan and then pushing them for it is +town because ive Been There

[Ydrasse]

i vote herta or val

reasons are shaky and admittedly more biased on val but 2 me feels like he is making a giant conspiracy world based off of shadows and whispers and feels kinda upset that it's being like.. dismissed quickly. like idk how much merit other people would see in it but saying that i am softing but then giving up my sots to a partner xyz is uh. not grounded in any reality lol. i think it's worse when he's like "okay fine get me then" self vote

herta on a skim didnt seem to like. care about freedom lim terribly so or much of any so the hop on after toto votes freedom feels gross because it feels like it's less responsible and more okay sheep ic and then oh no look what happens. i need to reread this iso closer tho bc i just skimmed for freedom in the iso and i might be missing more

i need to read mathblade again because i dont feel as concrete as i did a few days ago but i also lost like 75% of what i retained from this game. the ninja modifier lives rent free in my head

p-edit kitty didnt fake a guilty kitty wanted a clear

[Ydrasse]

Ydra I’m not following why any of what you said about Val makes him scum?

which part doesnt make sense ?

[Ydrasse]

i'll try to rexplain

fmpov val has been pushing a theory that isn't actually... based a lot in wha i've done this game/actions, its a theory that feels like is built entirely around (at least related to me) the theory that i was a wolf softing and then i had a partner replace in and i for some reason decided i would like, just not do anything with my posts/"softs" whe n that was the meat of what i had done this game
it doesn't make sense to me that someone would think that is like... a rational plan and believe it?
(admitting i need to read more bfore i say this) from memory it doesnt feel like val was interested in my actual words/actions of the game and more pushing that narrative

and thne when val gets trapped up in a 1v1 he gets like, weirdly emotional about it almost pissy i guess even though that word is like. gross idk what else to say, agitated, throws down the self vote ate mode that i dont get the motivations for really because its not like he should be dead to rights cannot recover or whatever it feels more like a reaction that a wolf has imo trying to deflect and wifom out of it

is just a strange way he's processing the game and reacting, idk if this is supposed to be something im townreading for being too paranoid to make sense as a wolf but im not

[Ydrasse]

im going to bed but im willing to he ar out a town explanation
similar for herta or at least how hea cted around freedom wagon

honestly atp ill hear out anthing because im kind of jus like well. here we are

[Ydrasse]

like i get you’re saying it’s irrational but like ... why
val doesn’t seem the type to act like this

[Ydrasse]

mmmm
i have been wondering why this game went completely dead on all fronts
there was some votes and then nothing

[Ydrasse]

also fwiw val i’m not sold on you being scum but it just feels like when you say stuff like “i think ydra was softclaiming and then she had a partner rep in and they decided to switch all of that” there is no rebuttal i have but “that isn’t true, i wasn’t softing this” because it turns into what feels like us arguing over which one is lying without proof? or i guess i literally just feel like i can’t do much more than say “that’s literally untrue”
to me it feels like an argument meant to be loud and abrasive without a lot of places to be chipped away at because you’re being so like stubborn abt it you just keep yelling

like idk i’m literally willing to hear out your math case more and not die on the hill

[Ydrasse]

okay i’m sorry but i like can’t . get to where you do on me for perhaps obvious reasons
i don’t know how to convince you on this when the fundamental answer is “this is how i play, my actions are as explained and i think a lot of this is a reach or wanting to string together things to reach the conclusion you want”
i can’t resolve that in a way that will like. make sense to you probably if you’re town so
i’ll read everything else you’ve said and go from there
(small note is that i think it’s... weird that you’re making a case about your own alignment i guess At Me even though i know it’s an effort to explain the presentation pings me a little)

can you give your math case?

[Ydrasse]

if ur to the point where me posting thyt is somehow scum and thinking i wouldn’t even contribute 2 team discussion s pls kill me now lol

[Ydrasse]

icould breathe at thisnpoint and be called scum i thinki

[Ydrasse]

because i was alive despite leaving thhread at e-1 and it was just like “lol i lived”
i laughed when ichecked even if it was another town dead because it the last votes were goofy

[Ydrasse]

like ik ur trying to use snything here but my memes arent going to bear snything fruitful i’m sorry

[Ydrasse]

when migraine pass i funny againn

[Ydrasse]

my brain is in attack mode diirectly behind my left eye
VOTE: herta
feels like no good options to vote and feels like vote is being .. .id how to explain
so many wagons

good night

[Ydrasse]

i don’t feel great absout it but it feels best option
feel like everyone tellingwmd val could be town
fb answers don’t feel like scum jsut annoyed
don’t feel like angonegave good answers to anyone else sas wolf anymore

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: mathblade

wat if we do this

[Ydrasse]

it feels like everyone’s side eyeing math but no ones really going for it except val who won’t even vote there

[Ydrasse]

something something ninja modifier
something something the herta strong townread could be tmi
herta has literally no one hard defending him maybe soft but everyone’s just letting wagons fester

[Ydrasse]

i will do the vote roulette to make everyone towntell if they’re town
no one is safe

[Ydrasse]

i will do the vote roulette to make everyone towntell if they’re town
no one is safe

Learning from the best I see

i just want action at this point everyone is twiddling their thumbs

[Ydrasse]

oh yeah unwnd
i miss unwnd

[Ydrasse]

unwnd let himself be led into the scol vote didn’t help or something

[Ydrasse]

it would have been a power bus from math -_- i do think math would do that tho lol
VOTE: fb

[Ydrasse]

ya im waiting to be voted out atp

[Ydrasse]

it feels like it’s already decided cause no one is even round to like. vote elsewhere or do anything

[Ydrasse]

Idk we can flip to val if he’s just gonna keep self voting

[Ydrasse]

i dont feel strong about wanting you die but no one is playing the game or cares about like actually pushing trhough a wagon so im like
hello? vote waiting room

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: ydra

[Ydrasse]

i will probably elaborate on my thoughts regarding the setup too at some point beyond just griping and complaining

gg everyone, and thank you for modding!

p-edit: we managed to nk three times in a row, had no way to disrupt the 2 protectives one of whom was never going to be on what should have been an obvious target IC, and the only choice of a kill we could technically "always" (but not really bc jk) get would rob us of the sole power we had this game
it was unpleasant and demoralizing

i claimed what i did because otherwise we both die and it was about the only chance we had, claiming a role that would in theory play into the idea of ascetics/scum roleblocks/etc existing while also being able to generate an inno on my partner when she was blocked (which we realized instantly i feel) was the most i could do in terms of keeping us alive

[Ydrasse]

our targets were iv -> math -> fire for all of our missed kills
idk
i feel like these in theory should have given us something but two protectives is actually just not fun to deal with
and i don't think that the ninja role made too much of an impact

even something like a 1-shot roleblocker/strongman would have done wonders for morale and being able to function in general
i don't think there should ever be something like endless doc shots on top of someone's ability to protect + block

[Ydrasse]

i also think it's incredibly unfun that one of said protectives knows that they shouldn't be on the obvious person and gets to be off doing other things further hamstringing the mafia

[Ydrasse]

i think we were both checked out at that point so idr lol

[Ydrasse]

it did make me smile when everyone was asking questions about checkers

[Ydrasse]

but yeah skitter said everything i feel way more Smart

please give mafia at least some tool to have agency
informed should never take the place of what could be more direct power, imho
ninja was kind of barely a power here.

[Ydrasse]

we commiserated together in the pt lol
i wanted to concede way earlier since i knew it was almost always lost

[Ydrasse]

echoing all of the praise for town, i dont want to take away from a well earned win with grousing <3