RealTime Mafia (Game Over due to too many modkills.)

[Raging Rabbit]

You're exaggarating the importance of saving words vs. promoting discussion. Surye called it "oppurtunistic", but attacked Plum for the same thing.

Vote Surye

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ortolan hate is stupid.

25, 316/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

You're exaggarating the importance of saving words vs. promoting discussion. Surye called it "oppurtunistic", but attacked Plum for the same thing.

Vote Surye

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ortolan hate is stupid.

You're confused on what I called opportunistic.

Voting based on verbosity, nay?

5, 340/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

Not hypocritical; sarcastic attack. Didn't Vote or FOS; making point about HIS hypocrisy.

Shortage of words causes misinterpertation.

Unvote

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Vote forbiddanlight

. Unhelpful approach, dislike suggestion of vig.

11, 380/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

What if me? With that, WIFOM ^-^

explain.

Ok, then reverse.

Unvote, vote Surye

, if vig, ortolan.

WIFOM post's a factor, mostly dislike wanting to vig everyone who talks. Need to save words, but attacking anyone who uses more than 3 per post = antitown. Town needs discussion.

Surye wagon basis = missunderstanding, probably many scum there.

40, 558/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

Also,

Vote: Surye

. No reason.

None?! That's about 10th vote on someone you agree with.

10, 568/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

Posted WIFOM after vote. Nice try.

So?

And not vig everyone who talks, vig everyone who wastes words. There is difference. xyzzy isn't as scummy since he used words to make point. most of others haven't.

Nonsevere word wasting = null tell. Calling for kills because of it = easy scum move.

^Talk about opportunism. You just parroted everyone else. You're fanning flames of Surye bandwagon with useless statements that have already been said. animorpherv1 is only one wasting words here.

This.

FOS animorpherv1

.

18, 692/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

Cited reason vote. Bullshit

Don't get what you're saying.

Bullshit. Vig directs self.

You just gave advice to vig. Hypocrital.

12, 727/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

Not. I give advice, don't expect following.

What

do

you expect?

You cite WIFOM post as reason voting me, but that I did AFTER vote.

Untrue.

Furthermore, I vote you because start wall of text war. Bad for town.

Discussion = good for town. Also, again hypocrital.

13, 902/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

GOOD discussion good for town. catfight not.

Not catfight. Maybe by OMGUSing and stating "bullshit" you try to make this one?

able to refer back to later, breadcrumbing? No, I like making vig suggestions, no matter if followed.

Suggestions mean something, in addition to vote. If they didn't, you'd be wasting words and scummy according to

your

definition.

Sure not look untrue...

WIFOM.

34, 967/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

Even if vig decides self, I do have influence. Anyone does. I like my suggestion.

Bullshit. Vig directs self.

So now it has meaning? Contradiction.

6, 995/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

Even if vig decides self, I do have influence. Anyone does. I like my suggestion.

Bullshit. Vig directs self.

So now it has meaning? Contradiction.

We suggest, vig ultimately decides.

Point was, verbose vig suggestion terrible for town. FL said it had no influence since vig decides himself, then said it does.

22, 1045/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

who says vig exists???

This. Why are FL and RR debating over vig that might not exist?

Suggestion scummy regardless of existence.

5, 1090/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

Should I ignore RR? But...wisely, no more speculating

Calling for verbose people's lynch = bad
"" vig - worse

Wasn't trying to speculate.

21, 1203/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

People use word restriction as an excuse to say nothing. Bad for town; easy hiding for scum.

17, 1305/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

animorpherv acting really scummy, possibly just newb though. Worse feeling on FL.

Postcount very low for 24 player game, scum happy lurking this out. Worry less about words, post more.

30, 1533/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

FOS: lurkers

, too many people avoid speaking up.

6, 1796/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

[4] Fuck with the rules, and I will fuck back. This includes looking for loopholes.

12000 word posts will result in modkill, obviously mod's capable of applying judgement.

Ani's lynch should at least wait 'till we discuss stuff more. Can anyone link to another game of his?

33, 2649/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

Percy's recent posting gives me odd feeling.

Skitzer's totally lurking, also

ortolan's case against me sounds like OMGUS. I am nowhere near suspicous enough to be lynched.

Vote ortolan

Really scummy. Top suspect along with FL.
Ani's a good lynch too, though possible incompetent newb. Needs to post more.

31, 3950/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

this is my first game on these forums. i have yet to get to know how people play. thus i must base how people react on previous experience.

Your experience is limited, the dichotomy you drew is false. Accept that.

12, 4101/12000

[Raging Rabbit]

Mod: Can we have a vote count, please?

Ani: claim.

2, 4410/12000

Travelling today, votecount tonight.

[Raging Rabbit]

Painfully obvious scum or worst coincidence ever. Am only not voting Ani to not prematurely end the day, still got over 1000 words 'till afternoon.

Unvote.

[Raging Rabbit]

Also - new meta info on Ani: He played quite scummy, recently got lynched as important town powerrole Day 1 in a game I'm in. Refused to make a case on anyone else/really defend himself. He's capable of awful play as townie. I want that taken into consideration before lynching him. Also, lurkers check in. Xyzzy, RG, Xtoxm, maybe Kiro.

Regardless, the "lost my PM... oh, I'm a miller! ... with abilities!" thing is way, way too far fetched to believe.

[Raging Rabbit]

Die scum die.

[Raging Rabbit]

Jester speculation doesn't mean much, ortolan clearly knew he wasn't gonna prevent the lynch.
Anyone got something to add before we hammer?

[Raging Rabbit]

I fear this long night will really hurt activity.

Vote FL

, continuing my earlier line of suspicion.

36/2750

[Raging Rabbit]

Just speculation, ani's lynch was obvious at that point so it's a stupid scum move. Ortolan's likely town.

99/3750

[Raging Rabbit]

Just speculation, ani's lynch was obvious at that point so it's a stupid scum move. Ortolan's likely town.

Even then, WIFOM exist.

Judgment call.

This why I hate when people say "stupid scum move, so prob town".

Moves that don't make sense for scum aren't scumtells.

137/3750

[Raging Rabbit]

Sorry, this as RR's statement. It null tell at best.

Didn't say it's towntell either, leaning town for other reasons.

172//3750

[Raging Rabbit]

nice backtrack. You wouldn't have phrased your statement that way if you meant that.

Just speculation, ani's lynch was obvious at that point so it's a stupid scum move. Ortolan's likely town.

Second sentence isn't result of the first.

220/3750

[Raging Rabbit]

lol, wordwaster #1 WAS scum~

Ortotan fits that too -- lots of word wasting at the start.

Total crap logic.

FOS veerus

.

282/3750

[Raging Rabbit]

BS. There better ways to phrase

Perhaps phrasing wasn't perfect, but I know my intentions better than you. We need to save words, not write essays.

One does not follow the other. Orto's play at the end of day was scummy and deserved a vote on its own merit. The fact that he was under heavy fire for word wasting at the start is an after-the-fact support that I noticed after my vote.

Why mention it then?

Agree that Skitzer's scummy too. One of these 3 should be the lynch.

620/10500

[Raging Rabbit]

The argument you claimed I made makes no sense. You should read the post as two seperate sentences, like I meant. I expressed a town read of Ortolan before the whole jester thing even came up. I understand why you want to keep your version of the truth, it makes me look bad, but the rest of the town aren't scum so I doubt they'd agree.

700/10500

[Raging Rabbit]

Already stated reasons for suspecting you. This contrived attack = additional one.

743/10500

[Raging Rabbit]

He would have put the second sentence on a separate line in that case.

Yeah, I should've. My mistake, makes the intention easy to misinterpert. How exactly is that scummy?

RR also refusing to clarify.

Clarify what?

and wasting words

BS attack.

Apparantly I didn't flat out say I thought ortolan town, but I had that read back when attacking case on him. He seems to be someone who's making effort to take game forward, rather than just save words like most.

952/10500

[Raging Rabbit]

and yesterday's Jester.

Huh?

953/10500

[Raging Rabbit]

It clearly couldn't change anything. What did he do yesterday that makes you think he's that unsensible?

1001/10500

[Raging Rabbit]

This town = using setup as excuse for laziness.

ortolan = countexample of this, hence original defence of him. Was questioned about it, so had to repeat my logic.

1142/10500

[Raging Rabbit]

MASON CLAIM OR NOT GUYS????????????????

no.

1143/10500

[Raging Rabbit]

Mod, please prod/replace any lurkers

.

It seems we have a lot of them. RG, for one.

1272/10500

I will be prodding people after the hollidays.

[Raging Rabbit]

1414/10500

[Raging Rabbit]

Vote Count?

Focus discussion. Less masonry, more lynching.

This. Town needs massive improvement in activity.

[Raging Rabbit]

Not sold on veerus, FL and skitzer scummier. Claim's bad, but what do scum gain by claiming early?

At least there's

something

going on, I guess.

[Raging Rabbit]

Claiming townie won't head off votes.

[Raging Rabbit]

Unlikely at best. Anti town? Yes, but not scumtell or towntell.

[Raging Rabbit]

Given town's reaction, your meta comment is fail.

[Raging Rabbit]

You and others seem content to wagon veerus for claim alone, which isn't in itself a reason.

[Raging Rabbit]

I don't really get it either.

Modkills = viable option, this game needs speeding up bad.

[Raging Rabbit]

This is so random. I honestly don't care much about this game anymore, and don't think putting in an effort would change anything anyways. Just lynch veerus for an idle afternoon followed by some of our other suspects and maybe with like 8 remaining we could start actually scumhunting.

[Raging Rabbit]

Yeah. ani was the most obvious scum ever once he started trying to defend himself, but there isn't much hope for serious scumhunting the way this is going. Town's suffering from limited word use, limited activity and limited attention span. I still have a mild scumread on FL, but have sorta lost faith in convincing anyone.

[Raging Rabbit]

Meh, just as well. It was getting a real hard to continue caring about this game as it was. I think the setup has some potential, but it should definitely be changed to turn this into less of a lurkergame. Maybe a total number of posts restriction rather than a wordcout, or very short dealines. I blame the setup and the lurkers more than the actual modding. if that makes a difference.

I knew the veerus wagon was crap. Was wrong about FL, though, so sorry 'bout that.

[Raging Rabbit]

Oh, and it's nice to see Percy was scum.