Open 106 - Impotence Mafia (Game Over!) before 714

[afatchic]

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Soo what do we do now?

wait for crazy to tell us to start.

[afatchic]

Vote Natirasha

for claiming my role.

[afatchic]

I, too, support a mass-vig claim.

I support the mass claim, after we lynch the Mafia RB. If we wait until lylo, the mafia will just claim vig, and our townies will have to distinguish between the two.

[afatchic]

So that puts emptyger at L-2 on page 3 based on a matter of principle.

[afatchic]

Hey sorry I haven’t been very helpful, but ill get into it now. I’m still liking my vote on Nat. while its still early and I don’t have a whole lot to go on… this is why im still voting Nat.

unvote, vote: Emptyger

as a matter of principle.

the principle was you were voting me, I suppose.

First, she puts Emptyger at L-2 on page three, and I could easily see in danger of a mishammer, with how quickly the wagon had already filled. But she used the excuse “as a matter of principle”, which implies she may have a decent reason for the L-2 this early. But then she says the “matter of principle” was am OMGUS vote, which puts a player at L-2, out of the RVS.
Then in post 65 she uses the excuse of not paying attention. This seems like a cop-out for carelessly putting someone at L-2. She says that its her meta to not care when she plays as vanilla, thus implying a vanilla role. Yet she has cared enough to be one of the more talkative people. So therefore im not believing this excuse.

My next suspect is Zakeri:
However she hasn’t really posted much so I can’t really post much against her. But what I don’t like is her excuse to jump onto Natirasha. She uses the excuse because she has said she would be no help, which for multiple reasons is wrong.
1) I don’t really know where you are getting this, but I sure didn’t see it.
2) this isn’t scummy in itself. And if she refuses to be helpful, get the mod to replace her.
3) Majority of the time when someone places a vote, jumping the wagon, on a reason that is false and not scummy, they are scum.

FOS Zakeri

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Hey, got my prod. sorry its finals week here, so i have extremely busy, and dedicated the little time i do get on here to another game a lot farther along. But yesterday my Power Cord for my laptop died, so until i get that fixed i will have Limited access the next day or two. sorry. if my inactivty becomes a problem before i can get back on to catch up then the mod can replace me, however i would like to continue.

[afatchic]

Welcome Xofelf.

here's some food for thought. Let's entertain the idea that Blondesowut really is inexperienced. Here's what she's trying to tell us:

1. That Appassionista might be scum because he's generally staying quiet.
2. That Yorgi might be his scum partner because they ignore each other.

of course both of these could be true, but it's too early to tell if either of these things are affected by their scumminess, or if they just haven't gotten around to posting much. Plus, Day one Scum partners almost never work out in a pro-town manor. It's best to find individual things and pin them on a single person. Linking to previously flipped scum is merely a bonus.

If i understood it correctly, then i agree. day 1 don't try to find both scum, or use connections to be able to lynch someone. after the first lynch and night kill, then you can go back and look to see how certain people reacted to certain things, knowing two peoples alignment.

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Enter afatchic

If i understood it correctly, then i agree. day 1 don't try to find both scum, or use connections to be able to lynch someone. after the first lynch and night kill, then you can go back and look to see how certain people reacted to certain things, knowing two peoples alignment.

But would that necessarily work in the town's favor? It's possible, isn't it, for someone's reaction to be misinterpreted? Just a thought.

How do you suppose we find scum then?

and yes reactions can be misinterpreted, but then you have to look to see if they consistently react a certain way to a player, once you find out there alignment.

Also, what are some of your thoughts of the players? you seemed to just take snippets from everyone and show how it can be a null-tell.

[afatchic]

My thoughts on BSW is that if she is scum, 1 of the two people she is accusing of being scum is her scum buddy. Therefore if we followed her, she would bus one scum, somewhat clearing her, and then cause a mislynch later.

[afatchic]

I have no clue why afatchic would believe that BSW is outing a scum buddy. That makes no sense. Where did the conclusion come from?

If she is scum, i could easily see this as bussing, knowing it will never go through.

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Emp, I really really really really want to win! Thats why Im playing! So Im trying to find out whos in the mafia. I think its App so I said that and I said why. I know I might die so incase I do, I said Yorgi could be in the mafia with App. I really am trying. I dont know wut more you want from me. I said who I think is in the mafia. I voted for him. I said why. I answered questions. Now people are voting for me. I dont get it.

You sound really stupid, and annoying.

Vote: BSW

OMGUS? Being stupid, or annoying does not decide alignment, fyi.

Unvote, Vote Appassionata

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Vote Count:

xofelf

(0)

mrfixij

(0)

chenhsi

(0)

yorgi

(0)

EmpTyger

(1) - chenhsi

afatchic

(0)

BlondeSoWut

(3) - StrangerCoug, yorgi, Appassionata

StrangerCoug

(4) - Caboose, Natirasha, EmpTyger, mrfixij

Appassionata

(2) - BlondeSoWut, afatchic

Zakeri

(0)

Caboose

(0)

Natirasha

(0)

Not voting

(2) - xofelf, Zakeri

With 12 players alive, 7 votes will achieve a lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 is January 3.

[afatchic]

Although, you could comment on how SC seems to know who you really are, and slipped up by calling you “him” instead of “her”.

Where was this, i think i missed it, maybe they are scum partners?

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Stranger- if you don't pay attention to peoples gender sign, then why would you assume Blondesowut is male?

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Stranger- if you don't pay attention to peoples gender sign, then why would you assume Blondesowut is male?

I did not say I don't pay

ANY

attention to people's genders. I simply said I paid more attention to case than gender.

Obviously you didn't pay attention to it, so why did you assume someone by the name blondesowut would be male?

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Stranger- if you don't pay attention to peoples gender sign, then why would you assume Blondesowut is male?

I did not say I don't pay

ANY

attention to people's genders. I simply said I paid more attention to case than gender.

Obviously you didn't pay attention to it, so why did you assume someone by the name blondesowut would be male?

Why the heck does that matter at all?

Because BSW seems to be an alt, so maybe SC knows who it actually is, either by knowing them outside the game, or by being scum buddies with him.

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I think the Alt case, and gender case are the same thing aren't they? he is saying you know that persons alt because you continually call them a male when gender says female and everything about the name says female, which would imply you know something more than we do, either by RL friendship, or scumbuddies.

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The Absolutely Unchanged Vote Count:

xofelf

(0)

mrfixij

(0)

chenhsi

(0)

yorgi

(0)

EmpTyger

(1) - chenhsi

afatchic

(0)

BlondeSoWut

(3) - StrangerCoug, yorgi, Appassionata

StrangerCoug

(4) - Caboose, Natirasha, EmpTyger, mrfixij

Appassionata

(2) - BlondeSoWut, afatchic

Zakeri

(0)

Caboose

(0)

Natirasha

(0)

Not voting

(2) - xofelf, Zakeri

With 12 players alive, 7 votes will achieve a lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 is January 3.

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FOS based on meta... nice. i just want him to explain how he knows BSW is a guy, since its obviously an alt. account.

[afatchic]

And Im not voting Stranger cus I think Apass has a better chance of being in the mafia.

We all

HAVE

the same chance of being in the mafia. care to explain why you think app is scummier then SC?

[afatchic]

BSW why are you convinced app is scum?

Xofelf and Zakeri why the no votes?

[afatchic]

afatchic:

And Im not voting Stranger cus I think Apass has a better chance of being in the mafia.

We all

HAVE

the same chance of being in the mafia. care to explain why you think app is scummier then SC?

BSW why are you convinced app is scum?
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Given how *you* are voting, what’s your point? At the very least, answer your own question. Why didn’t you vote SC?

BSW gave a crap reason for voting apass of SC, so i asked her to elaborate a bit better. if i had stated i was either voting apass and SC, and gave a bad reason to vote apass, then yes i would be glad to answer my own question.
@ your question- i really don't think he has acted that scummy...

@ everyone regaurding Apass. isn't vig the claim for the scum to make? if he claims Vanilla townie, he gets lynched, so he claims a PR, yet can't really be countered since all three would have to counter in order for Apass to be lynched. so what is everyones thoughts on the claim?

[afatchic]

LOL bah

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afatchic:
Nice vigkill. If you remember, what set you off to mrfixij?

I normally shoot the person i have the worst read on, or who i feel is scum but would never be able to put a case together against. i was debating n1 between emp. and mrfixij because mrfixij had lurked most of day 1, so there wasn't much there to put a case together with, but i thought he was scum. Then i also felt emp was scum, but that he could prolly out debate me and i would never get a case to go through on him. end the end i decided on mrfixij because i thought with as much as emp. talked he would eventually screw up enough for everyone to notice and get lynched for it, however it never happened.

I wish i had just stayed alive till the end of the game, i believe i would have won it for us just on vig kills. day 2 after i died, i made the emp/xoxelf prediction which turned out true. y'all played really well, though. great game.

Xtoxm- next time don't do the quick hammers. if i would have been alive i would have attempted to vig you the first night after you did it to the roleblocker.

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note to self. If I vote someone in endgame and others do not jump on the same player with votes - that person is scum.

I would say this is a decent plan to stick with if you don't have a bad scum read on someone. Normally, if a wagon stalls in lylo, its on the scum.